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Title: How much weight can be gained during precontest carbing up?
Post by: Competitor 9 on March 08, 2014, 09:48:45 PM
I'm hoping to be at least 195 to 194 before I start carbing up and droping water. For those who have carbed up what kind of weight can I expect? 2 to 3 lbs?
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Post by: visualizeperfection on March 08, 2014, 09:51:26 PM
also curious.

do you have a protocol mike?
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Post by: Wolfox on March 08, 2014, 09:57:45 PM
Before the show experiment and do a carbup to see how your body reacts.


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Post by: BIG DUB on March 08, 2014, 09:58:10 PM
seems like 5-8lbs is the norm
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Post by: tom joad on March 08, 2014, 10:00:15 PM
be careful not to spillover.
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Post by: Competitor 9 on March 08, 2014, 10:01:33 PM
also curious.

do you have a protocol mike?

Well the plan is to start Wednesday at 300 grams. That is also the last day for a full body work out and cardio, carbs will either increase or decrease as need be, I'd rather be less full then spill over. I'm flat ass shit right now but I still have nice round muscle bellies, so there is no need to go super heavy on the carb load

All cardio and workouts stop Thursday and water manipulation starts Wednesday with one gallon then Thursday will be half a gallon and Friday will be 20oz tell 6pm then only sip water as needed with carbs
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Post by: Competitor 9 on March 08, 2014, 10:03:21 PM
Saturday I'm planing on sweet patatos and rice cakes with sugar free jelly shooting for about 100 before prejudging and a bag of skittles 15 mins before I step on stage
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Post by: epic_alien on March 09, 2014, 12:00:10 AM
friday night eat a bunch of icecream, donoughts and maybe a whole apple pie,

wake up be thirtsty as hell but look good and right before stage maybe 15 mins drink 12 ounces of pedialite
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Post by: Disgusted on March 10, 2014, 11:59:19 AM
As many pounds of food and water your stomach can hold.
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Post by: galeniko on March 10, 2014, 12:07:01 PM
Before the show experiment and do a carbup to see how your body reacts.



hell no do not.


As many pounds of food and water your stomach can hold.
yah it depends.

on the water mainly.after some carb ups, ppl end up being lighter, if they shut down the water intake in time.


you know this and arent a big savocate for carbdups, but just in case soemone didnt know.

ppl load up on water and go very low carbs the week before contest.
2gallons water a day.obviosuly the bodyweight can shoot up bc of the water.the body will be pissing all the time, getting rid off the water.
now 2days out some carbs are added and the water shut, the body will still dehyfrate very fast, and boom after cvabr up suddenly one is lighter.

thats gonna cvchange the day they start drink water gaian while fully carbed up.

mike you shouldnt step on stagtlike that, thats way too fat youd get blown away in a discoteque or beacj party contects, not to mention a bbuilding stage.

good effort, but youre plenty fatloss away from stage ready
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Post by: njflex on March 10, 2014, 12:32:20 PM
mike saw your pic on other thread look good,big delts/abs came in good,but put pic here so gali/disgusted to see cause to me carbing up at this point I think is not good ,your not super shredded your lean/full in terms like a 'rebound'after show look now,,you need to be close to or peeled to see difference in the fill up process...
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Post by: Hulkotron on March 10, 2014, 12:33:04 PM
be careful not to spillover.

x2
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Post by: galeniko on March 10, 2014, 12:46:25 PM
mike saw your pic on other thread look good,big delts/abs came in good,but put pic here so gali/disgusted to see cause to me carbing up at this point I think is not good ,your not super shredded your lean/full in terms like a 'rebound'after show look now,,you need to be close to or peeled to see difference in the fill up process...
yah if anything he should deplete and cut out the water ,this might be the best for cosmetic temporary change, but its simply not lean enough to do an such tricks really.

carb up is to refill the diet flatness a bit, hes nowhere near close to that.

you dont go onstage with fat that can be pinched on the lower bcak, you go when the back is xmas treed.

and yeah goo off of all drugs in time recues subcutane water agreat deal.

but when theres still fat ,stage light and carb up will just pronounce and make the fat even more visible.

i remmebr someone said in person he looks leaner than on the pics, i know what they mean.
but guess what , someone who looks shredded on pics will look scary peeled in person.

when they flex it looks like theres no skin on the muscles

but congrats on his way hes heading the right direction
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Post by: njflex on March 10, 2014, 01:17:46 PM
yah if anything he should deplete and cut out the water ,this might be the best for cosmetic temporary change, but its simply not lean enough to do an such tricks really.

carb up is to refill the diet flatness a bit, hes nowhere near close to that.

you dont go onstage with fat that can be pinched on the lower bcak, you go when the back is xmas treed.

and yeah goo off of all drugs in time recues subcutane water agreat deal.

but when theres still fat ,stage light and carb up will just pronounce and make the fat even more visible.

i remmebr someone said in person he looks leaner than on the pics, i know what they mean.
but guess what , someone who looks shredded on pics will look scary peeled in person.

when they flex it looks like theres no skin on the muscles

but congrats on his way hes heading the right direction
LEANEST state possible where u have been,and I had someone tell me at the gym watching me pose that it looked painful when I posed due to how ripped I was.
Title: Re: How much weight can be gained during precontest carbing up?
Post by: Competitor 9 on March 10, 2014, 04:34:40 PM
At this point I'm at 195 and super flat still holding some fat but oh well it's now or never so ill give this a shot and close a chapter in my life
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Post by: no one on March 10, 2014, 04:36:46 PM

if you carb up your about to make a mistake that will ruin the weeks of work it took to get you here.

up to you tho. find out the hard way.

truth be told your still a good 4-5 weeks away from being stage ready.
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Post by: visualizeperfection on March 10, 2014, 04:38:36 PM

if you carb up your about to make a mistake that will ruin the weeks of work it took to get you here.

up to you tho. find out the hard way.

one carb up will ruin weeks of dieting?

will the one or two days of high carbs and water instantly revert him back to his pre diet shape?

sounds kind of farfetched bro
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Post by: no one on March 10, 2014, 04:42:38 PM
one carb up will ruin weeks of dieting?

will the one or two days of high carbs and water instantly revert him back to his pre diet shape?

sounds kind of farfetched bro

when you holding that much fat still yes one carb up will ruin an entire prep.

were not talking about 'reverting back to his pre diet shape'- where did i say that?

hes trying to look his best for one day.

you think a carb up is a magic tool that makes you look godly and is a substitute for not being lean enough? when your that fat a carb up will have the exact opposite effect of hat hes trying to achieve. his love handles and back are going to hold more water than the suez canal and there wont be a line on his body.
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Post by: MAXX on March 10, 2014, 04:48:37 PM
when you holding that much fat still yes one carb up will ruin an entire prep.

were not talking about 'reverting back to his pre diet shape'- where did i say that?

hes trying to look his best for one day.

you think a carb up is a magic tool that makes you look godly and is a substitute for not being lean enough? when your that fat a carb up will have the exact opposite effect of hat hes trying to achieve. his love handles and back are going to hold more water than the suez canal and there wont be a line on his body.
carbs are not there to make you ripped genious. it's there to fill out the muscles the last hours. to turn to glycogen and fill up the muscles. that's the whole point stupid.

if you cut out water and sodium you can't hold water anyways. no amount of carbs will change that. if it's dry carbs that is.
Title: Re: How much weight can be gained during precontest carbing up?
Post by: Competitor 9 on March 10, 2014, 04:49:23 PM
I know exactly what you guess are saying and I agree a lite carb up at then and and drop water makes sense that's what I was thinking about doing. Hell I'll just jump in the heavys those guys always look 4 to 6 weeks out
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Post by: Competitor 9 on March 10, 2014, 04:50:39 PM
carbs are not there to make you ripped genious. it's there to fill out the muscles the last hours. to turn to glycogen and fill up the muscles. that's the whole point stupid.

if you cut out water and sodium you can't hold water anyways. no amount of carbs will change that. if it's dry carbs that is.


What dry carbs do you recommended
Title: Re: How much weight can be gained during precontest carbing up?
Post by: MAXX on March 10, 2014, 04:51:42 PM
At this point I'm at 195 and super flat still holding some fat but oh well it's now or never so ill give this a shot and close a chapter in my life
you look like 3 weeks out or more sorry.
Title: Re: How much weight can be gained during precontest carbing up?
Post by: Competitor 9 on March 10, 2014, 05:00:40 PM
you look like 3 weeks out or more sorry.


Well since my original show was in April (3 weeks out) that I Now can't do as I'm going to japan and when I get back I start my process to get out of the navy this is the only time I have to do this with a stable income and I won't be in school. So I'm not letting my 3 1/2 months of dieting going out the window. It's a fucking novice class at a local show not the USA
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Post by: MAXX on March 10, 2014, 05:05:20 PM


Well since my original show was in April (3 weeks out) that I Now can't do as I'm going to japan and when I get back I start my process to get out of the navy this is the only time I have to do this with a stable income and I won't be in school. So I'm not letting my 3 1/2 months of dieting going out the window. It's a fucking novice class at a local show not the USA
well why not do it just to learn from other competitors and stuff. just saying.

What dry carbs do you recommended
it was to prove a point.

for example if you carb up with a bunch of pasta that contains alot of water.

so carbs are kept to ricecakes, sugar, stuff like that. on show day that is. and no water. unless you feel like dying or cramping up all over.
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Post by: no one on March 10, 2014, 05:06:19 PM
carbs are not there to make you ripped genious. it's there to fill out the muscles the last hours. to turn to glycogen and fill up the muscles. that's the whole point stupid.

if you cut out water and sodium you can't hold water anyways. no amount of carbs will change that. if it's dry carbs that is.


hey buddy I was going to ask you if you were retarded but the redundancy of that question is highlighted by this post.
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Post by: Van_Bilderass on March 10, 2014, 05:07:00 PM
I never saw anyone gain ANY weight during carb-ups before a show.
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Post by: Competitor 9 on March 10, 2014, 05:07:42 PM
well why not do it just to learn from other competitors and stuff. just saying.
it was to prove a point.

for example if you carb up with a bunch of pasta that contains alot of water.

so carbs are kept to ricecakes, sugar, stuff like that. on show day that is. and no water. unless you feel like dying of cramping up all over.

Ah ok ya I got you didn't full know what you ment got it now
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Post by: MAXX on March 10, 2014, 05:09:15 PM
I never saw anyone gain ANY weight during carb-ups before a show.
because of the amout of water being dropped obviously.
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Post by: njflex on March 10, 2014, 07:35:53 PM
u look good ,and dieted ,don't know how hard to this point.enough to look ok on stage better than most people who try.depending on how big show is competitor wise ,even if 3 guys are in your class and u finish 3rd ,and there was a chance you could have beat the other 2 ,u will think about what could have been.goodluck man u came long way.
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Post by: Super Natural on March 11, 2014, 12:53:15 AM
This guy gained +-4 kg (9 pounds) between weigh-in (second to last pic) and 15 hours later at the pre-judging (last pic)
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Post by: visualizeperfection on March 11, 2014, 01:00:54 AM
This guy gained +-4 kg (9 pounds) between weigh-in (second to last pic) and 15 hours later at the pre-judging (last pic)

he started his prep quite the fatty.
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Post by: njflex on March 11, 2014, 05:19:32 AM
This guy gained +-4 kg (9 pounds) between weigh-in (second to last pic) and 15 hours later at the pre-judging (last pic)
that shows u big navy mike was same start point as well and at this point is the 2nd pic still 'sized'at mid point lean,,he needed to go 2 more boxes down,and that's what wes/gali was saying u never know how truly big/lean u are until u diet to staggering contest dryness,u see everything good/bad.
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Post by: galeniko on March 11, 2014, 06:28:29 AM
one carb up will ruin weeks of dieting?

will the one or two days of high carbs and water instantly revert him back to his pre diet shape?

sounds kind of farfetched bro
when not shredded, yes it will ruin it temporarily as soon as one drinks water.

when totaly shredded to the bone, 2days of eat all you can and drink water normaly will already spill over quite badly
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Post by: galeniko on March 11, 2014, 06:36:08 AM
carbs are not there to make you ripped genious. it's there to fill out the muscles the last hours. to turn to glycogen and fill up the muscles. that's the whole point stupid.

if you cut out water and sodium you can't hold water anyways. no amount of carbs will change that. if it's dry carbs that is.

this is bot broscienery.

many things can makr you hold water for no "apparent" reason.

sure carbs are just there to refil the glycogen,though.

i dotn agree with the sodium cutting, and cut out water,is relative ,you eat a banana,and well, go check how much water is in banana.

but a body with still fat on it, carbed up, no water drinking, the fat deposits will be pronounced more.

its as simple as that you dont go onstage if youre fat, thus, the whole carb up point gets moot
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Post by: Big Willy on March 11, 2014, 06:40:29 AM
this is bot broscienery.

many things can makr you hold water for no "apparent" reason.

sure carbs are just there to refil the glycogen,though.

i dotn agree with the sodium cutting, and cut out water,is relative ,you eat a banana,and well, go check how much water is in banana.

but a body with still fat on it, carbed up, no water drinking, the fat deposits will be pronounced more.

its as simple as that you dont go onstage if youre fat, thus, the whole carb up point gets moot

What would you recommend for me? Just to polish up. I'm near stage-ready as you can see.
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Post by: galeniko on March 11, 2014, 06:43:53 AM
What would you recommend for me? Just to polish up. I'm near stage-ready as you can see.
jan tanna and your ready to go 8)

dont use diuretics at this point youre so lean they would just kill you
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Post by: galeniko on March 11, 2014, 06:48:16 AM
I know exactly what you guess are saying and I agree a lite carb up at then and and drop water makes sense that's what I was thinking about doing. Hell I'll just jump in the heavys those guys always look 4 to 6 weeks out
ha, brother, this is actulay a good point ;D

i mean why not ;D
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Post by: Big Willy on March 11, 2014, 06:51:46 AM
jan tanna and your ready to go 8)

dont use diuretics at this point youre so lean they would just kill you

True that true that Munzer had nothing on me.
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Post by: bigmc on March 11, 2014, 06:53:26 AM
What would you recommend for me? Just to polish up. I'm near stage-ready as you can see.

look like you are holding a little water
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Post by: njflex on March 11, 2014, 06:56:37 AM
look like you are holding a little water
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