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Well he crack top 10 ???
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Let me put it this way... no.
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I love the guy but,............no. :-\
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Let me put it this way... no.
I think he will with the new rules ie small waist etc.. he sould fair pretty well..
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I love the guy but,............no. :-\
Really? and whats your reasoning for him not placing top 10?
MattT~
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He won't make the top 10. Looks great for his age tho.
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How old is Ben now?
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"Although I'm nearly 48 now, I think people are going to see me in better shape than I was in the early '90's! If my training continues the way its been going, I believe I am going to appear at the Iron Man exhibiting the best symmetry, proportion and well conditioned musculature of my career. I think my timing is good because judges are again starting to take note of the purer, more classic and aesthetically pleasing physiques. I will prove that age is not a factor if you train and live correctly. I have probably about 15 - 20lbs more muscle than I did ten years ago so what people will see in February is not an older Francis Benfatto, but a completely new version of myself. I hope that through this, I can inspire other 40 and 50 year olds to get back into the gym."
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How old is Ben now?
48?
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Really? and whats your reasoning for him not placing top 10?
MattT~
Ask any other pro who has taken that much time off before coming back. Dillet took less time off - nothing to show.
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Only if there are only ten competitors.
Unless, Benfatto is the size of, say, Melvin Anthony, yet still has his classic proportions.
From what I recall, Benfatto usually competed under 200 lbs. I don't have the reference in front of me, but I think the heaviest he's ever competed is 215.
Keep in mind how long it took Darrem Charles to make an impact on the IFBB pro scene. He's gotten bigger, slowly but surely.
How much mass he has added since the early/mid 90s?
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Francis --- whether you make top 10 or not it will be a pleasure to see you once again to grace the stage , respect must go out to you for longivity and passion to come back at 48, even if you showed up with the package you used to present you would be doing your self proud.
I said previously on this board that if you turned up with 10 to 15 lb more muscle you could be a threat , and now you have comfirmed that is what you are doing --- so yes you will be a threat !!
Good luck and enjoy your come back day , and what will be will be !!
Regards Hrdcor
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with all due respect...no.
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Really? and whats your reasoning for him not placing top 10?
MattT~
Even in his heyday (late 80s/early 90s), Benfatto wasn't considered to be the most massive of critters.
Again, unless he has Melvin Anthony's size (or that of Darrem Charles) to go with those classic proportions (assuming he still has those), I don't like his chances.
Keep in mind that Mohammed Makkaway, a two-time Olympia runner-up, attempted a comeback at the IronMan and placed in the pack. And he was even bigger there than he was at the Olympias, where he placed 2nd.
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Maybe the question isn't whether he WOULD place in the top ten, but whether he SHOULD?
In his best ever condition Benfatto would probably make very little impact standing next to guys who outmuscle him by 50-80 lbs. Even with an extra 10-20 lbs he might still be less impressive than we remember him simply by virtue of the company he'll be in.
However, IF he were to be given a gift placement; top 5, top 3 maybe, then perhaps that might be beneficial to bodybuilding as a whole.
I notice he's no longer a self confessed natural athlete.... interesting.
The Luke
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the answer is no
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Yeh but the guy has been away for 12 years, he could have gotten much bigger.. When was the last time someone saw him?
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Hey Chick just better be happy that Benafatto is not hitting the master's scene.
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Does anyone have any recent pictures of him?
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Francis --- whether you make top 10 or not it will be a pleasure to see you once again to grace the stage , respect must go out to you for longivity and passion to come back at 48, even if you showed up with the package you used to present you would be doing your self proud.
I said previously on this board that if you turned up with 10 to 15 lb more muscle you could be a threat , and now you have comfirmed that is what you are doing --- so yes you will be a threat !!
Good luck and enjoy your come back day , and what will be will be !!
Regards Hrdcor
I totally agree. Funny how some of these guys are writing him off before the show. If Melvin can place as high as he does being smooth then a slightly bigger just as ripped Francis can.
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no
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He has or had one great physique with great proportions other than leg's.could he possibly take the necessary mean's to be competitive in this bbing age.even in his heyday he was outsized by his generation of top guy's,then only handful were 230 and over,now top 8 alone are 235 to 280.compare his height to weight to s ray at time and shawn smoked him in total thickness esp leg's they both competed at 205 to 210.wish him the best.
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Everybody is saying no so francis i say yes
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Hey Chick just better be happy that Benafatto is not hitting the master's scene.
Maybe he is.
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If he will show up in good shape after such a long time, that is for sure what I call "to make an impact". No matter how he places.
He will prove that it's always a good moment to go back to the gym and go back in shape. And he probably doesn't care if he can't beat the younger guys.
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Hey Chick just better be happy that Benafatto is not hitting the master's scene.
a) who says he isn't?
b) am I supposed to fear competing against benfatto?
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b) am I supposed to fear competing against benfatto?
Apparently you fear competing in general. But I don't blame you.
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chic,has built a very solid and pleasing larger type of physique ,in top shape he is a player at most early spring show's.afraid i think not.
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he looked great back in the day tho, from those pics
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a) who says he isn't?
b) am I supposed to fear competing against benfatto?
Of course you don't FEAR competiing against anybody. However, you've made some very certain gurantees about your winning particular competitions. And while to fear a particular competitior would be absurd...I think at the very least you couldn't beat and in shape Vince Taylor. Benfatto, I can't say. However, his proportions and lines from days ago are exponentially better than yours at anytime. With the trend in judeging favoring mass, you may have the "epochal" advantage. But if judgeing his best physique of all time versus yours....Benfatto wins clearly. Now all this is speculative since we don't know what package Benfatto will bring. We can assume a best-worse case scenario for your showing.
None the less, I think it'll be interesting. I think it will be great for the resurrection of professional Masters shows to see you, Taylor, and perhaps Bennfatto and Groulx.
Also, how old is Jablonicky. I thing if he was eligable...he'd have to be a favorite.
Either way, I'm looking forward to what you bring to the stage this year and look forward to you adding to a competitive and interesting season.
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chic,has built a very solid and pleasing larger type of physique ,in top shape he is a player at most early spring show's.afraid i think not.
I meant health wise.
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true ;)
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Benfatto looked sick in this pic.
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Yeh but the guy has been away for 12 years, he could have gotten much bigger.. When was the last time someone saw him?
ironage.us has pics of him from last year. Benefatto's website also has some. Dude looks healthy.
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a) who says he isn't?
b) am I supposed to fear competing against benfatto?
I thought Masters shows didn't exist any more.
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Well i think he has a chance to crack the top 10, who else would fill 8th, 9h, 10th spot?
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Ray can judge because he beat Benfatto in the 90's but did you sir? Therefore do not count this man out. He has some serious lines and symmetry along with nice amount of mass, but again this is my opinion and I am entitled to have one. ;D
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b) am I supposed to fear competing against benfatto?
Yes.
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i would love for him to crack top 10, but even WITHOUT the pec tear i doubt it.
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i just don't think he will do well. he is on the short side and he will be light, even at 10-15 heavier. they prove it with david henery placings. that they just want the bigger guys to have smaller waists. that rule isn't for the smaller guys. it will be a shame to see him come in great and still place of top 10. i wish him the best though, because those black and whites are serious inspiration to me!
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I'm sorry, but even at his best, which those pics seem to show, he won't crack top 5. Not even 10. Time has changed. Physiques have changed (not for the better) and I think he's just a day late. :-\
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Its clear even to someone struck with myopia that:
benfatto > chick
anyday of the week
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From what I recall, Benfatto usually competed under 200 lbs. I don't have the reference in front of me, but I think the heaviest he's ever competed is 215.
How much mass he has added since the early/mid 90s?
Actually at his best (1990 Olympia where he finished 6th) he was 168lbs on stage. a freind of mine is good friend with Fancis and has done business with him for a long time. He reently spoke to him and he was 98kg (215lbs) and in very good shape. He plan on comming in at around 195-200lbs, in better condition than in the 1990s... so we're talking about a full 30lbs more than at his peak. Francis said that he now has legitimate 53cm (21") arms. Now, I'll have to see that myself to believe it, but not doubt he will carry on a lot more mass than in the past.
It's a matter of seeing how badly his pec tear will affect his look and if hecan nail his conditioning.
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How can anyone say NO .Have you all seen him so none of you know.I hope he does well and makes you all eat CROW.
Hey Chic your so positive do you think you can take him :)
Least he is competing :)
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Well said Lee,i would love to see him place high in this show.And for the people speculating on what he used to weigh,keep in mind in 1985 he placed 5th in the World Champs in the 80kg class(under 176).This first shot is from the 89 Olympia and the next one is the following year.
Just something to remember when other guys bodyweights are mentioned. ::)
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How can anyone say NO .Have you all seen him so none of you know.I hope he does well and makes you all eat CROW.
Hey Chic your so positive do you think you can take him :)
Least he is competing :)
ha ha, Chick Is compeating against a bunch of old guys only because he thinks that is a show he can win
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Bennafatto is 48 ?
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How can anyone say NO .Have you all seen him so none of you know.I hope he does well and makes you all eat CROW.
Hey Chic your so positive do you think you can take him :)
Least he is competing :)
oh snap.
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oh snap.
ANyone who says that is certifiably gay.
He's a small statured guy, who's probably maintained great health in the last years. Sure he'll look great.
Borracho... your avantar is sick! Where did that?
@!http://ircalc.usps.gov/intl_speed.asp?CID=10150&MailType=package&Pounds=6&Ounces=0http://ircalc.usps.gov/intl_speed.asp?CID=10150&MailType=package&Pounds=6&Ounces=0
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ANyone who says that is certifiably gay.
Talk to the hand.
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How can anyone say NO .Have you all seen him so none of you know.I hope he does well and makes you all eat CROW.
Hey Chic your so positive do you think you can take him :)
Least he is competing :)
I aint training for 2nd place, brother!
There's a reason they play the game...I guess we'll see on April 15th in NYC, won't we?
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From Milos' board
I didn't want to be the one telling the bad news - but it is true - Francis personally told me that he has certain immigration problems and he doesn't believe he would solve them in time to be here for the Ironman.
So, his return is going to be at the Australian Grand Prix....
I am very sad to hear that and I was hoping that someone from the federation (Ben Weider, Jim Manion...even Arnold) would be able to help him...but Francis told me that nobody responded so far...
Benfato influenced many pros and numerous people around the world and many of us would LOVE to see him back on the stage...
I wish him the best - ALWAYS.
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Whats Haney saying to him? Benfatto looks like he's annoyed at something Lee might be doing or saying.
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I think Benfatto is gonna show up much like Lee Apperson at the Masters a few years back............16th place is callin his name.
Welcome Back!
MOS
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Ole' Chick is backpeddling well what ya going to do. Guy like Benfatto sparks fear in men why? Well for starters he has a great physique and second he is a good looking guy (not like these bald headed goons walking around) and could probably take your girl, so Chick be safe and keep your girl at home. :) :)
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Benfatto looked sick in this pic.
Looks odd due to the fact that he has a very large head for his body.
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will he have a rug ?
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Wow if i look like anyone I'd wanna look like him.
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I aint training for 2nd place, brother!
There's a reason they play the game...I guess we'll see on April 15th in NYC, won't we?
Then what is it your training for ? :)
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Then what is it your training for ? :)
:o OUCH!
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I guess nobody bothered reading my previous post about benfatto not doing the Ironman. ::)
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I guess nobody bothered reading my previous post about benfatto not doing the Ironman. ::)
??? >:(
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Then what is it your training for ? :)
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The pro Australia... ;D]
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Francis in 2005 at age 47. Credit to Tony Doherty
Hey Bob come down to Australia. The pro show this year is on the beach at Surfers Paradise, lots of unbelievably hot women for you
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monster legs, hahaha.
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yeh legs are lacking, but he has a great back and delts..
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i hope he doesnt embarrass himself
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How can anyone say NO .Have you all seen him so none of you know.I hope he does well and makes you all eat CROW.
Hey Chic your so positive do you think you can take him :)
i was thinking the same shit...... everyone has there opinion but give the guy a little respect... your a stand up guy lee!
Least he is competing :)
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Your going down Chick, hahaahhahahahahaahhahaha
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Your going down Chick, hahaahhahahahahaahhahaha
Going down DOWN UNDER. :)
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The impacts already been made by the way everyone is going on about it !!!
I think it is great he is coming back, and at his age , it adds intrest to the show dosent it !!!
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Does Chick wanna deal with Priest in the Pro Aussie I dont think so!!!
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His legs make Bob Chick look like Tom Platz!
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I willing to bet that he was guest posing in those pis, but he sure is lean. Remember that Francis has been known to get shredded for shows. Hell, most guys can't get into that kind of shape for their shows let alone guest posing.
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His legs make Bob Chick look like Tom Platz!
yeah, you're right...
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come on bob, that pic is from 2000.
We all know you're the leg extension princecess since then.
However, I'd still trade my MBA and both of my kittens to own your dimples, so you still win :-\
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Chick gots quads but no calves?
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Chick's torso is very long, at least it looks that way in that pose. Looks like his upperbody is longer than his legs almost.
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I'm impressed with those pictures. His upperbody looks awesome and looks comparable to the top pros. Legs do look too small but the angle of the pictures are not good to judge the legs. For 47, that's excellent.
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yeah, you're right...
Bob's upper body almost looks flawless in this pic, has good quad sweep to... Just needs to work on over all quad/ham thickness and he will be back in da game!..
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great physique but will he be great enough to beat the big guys wo r ruling today
example: could he beat those guysin the pics bellow??????????????
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I aint training for 2nd place, brother!
There's a reason they play the game...I guess we'll see on April 15th in NYC, won't we?
yeah he aint goin there for second place brahs......
.. hes got the restaurant booked the night before the show n everythin! ;)
hes really got his prep done for this extravaganza!
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yeah he aint goin there for second place brahs......
.. hes got the restaurant booked the night before the show n everythin! ;)
hes really got his prep done for this extravaganza!
oh really ? what restaurant, i'll make a reservation too
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Stop coming down on Chic people.We all have to have our dreams.:)
You know we love ya Bob.
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Most probably he will end up like Lou in the 1992 Olympia (I hope not) … and about the Masters well … is Bob going to be at his best??
If not … Benfatto will nail him …
P.S. we love ya Bob
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I got into bodybuilding seriously or should i say consistantly and at the same time became a fan of the pro's and shows a year ago. i had never seen benefatto before and since we have fools here i have to put the disclaimer of (no homo) those benefatto pictures are beautiful i would like to look EXACTLY like that. he looks like what to me bodybuilding is exactly about.
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I got into bodybuilding seriously or should i say consistantly and at the same time became a fan of the pro's and shows a year ago. i had never seen benefatto before and since we have fools here i have to put the disclaimer of (no homo) those benefatto pictures are beautiful i would like to look EXACTLY like that. he looks like what to me bodybuilding is exactly about.
did u c Lee Labrada??
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yes but he was more massive than Benefatto. I can't identify with massive people because i was given stick figure genetics. the funny thing is that my calves are tremendous. 17.5 and I never even work them. i only work thighs. i'm kinda glad that i got lucky calves because inside i laugh when i see big dudes with no calves.
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Francis with Lee at 91 Olympia.
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Bob Cicherillo's face always reminded me of Joe Piscopo albeit with a tan and a little cosmetic surgery. Although I've only gotten the sense there was cosmetic surgery in recent pictures.
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jesus is lee labrada 5'1"
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that girl in the pic has a smokin' body, tig 'ol bitties and a big, thick ass.
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that girl in the pic has a smokin' body, tig 'ol bitties and a big, thick ass.
yeah queen u tell em !
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Wow, look at how cool this tread was, bunch of pros back then...ah the old days!
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jesus is lee labrada 5'1"
Maybe a hair over 5'4 when I met him. Still in great shape, better than most of the retired pros.
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