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Don't agree with the principal's decision, but shouldn't be fired over this IMO.
Principal who told kids not to speak Spanish will lose job
Hempstead issue sharpens focus on rising state Latino enrollment
By Lisa Gray | March 18, 2014
HEMPSTEAD - The Hempstead school board won't renew the contract of a principal who instructed her students not to speak Spanish, in a rapidly-evolving district where more than half of the students, like many Texas schools, are now Hispanic.
Hempstead Middle School Principal Amy Lacey was placed on paid administrative leave in December after reportedly announcing, via intercom, that students were not to speak Spanish on the school's campus. The Hispanic population of the rural area, roughly 50 miles northwest of Houston, is growing quickly, and Latino advocates say that it's important to allow Spanish in public schools.
"When you start banning aspects of ethnicity or cultural identity," says Augustin Pinedo, director of the League of United Latin American Citizens Region 18, "it sends the message that the child is not wanted: 'We don't want your color. We don't want your kind.' They then tend to drop out early."
Such fast growth is pervasive in Texas, says Steve Murdock, a professor at Rice University and director of the Hobby Center for the Study of Texas. Half of all Texas public-school students are now Hispanic, he notes. "When you look at issues related to education in Texas, to a great extent, you're looking at the education of Hispanic children."
Similar growth patterns, he says, hold true for the rest of the United States: "It's not just Texas."
Civil rights advocates say Lacey's suspension may have set off a campaign to intimidate Hispanics, including the district's superintendent, Delma Flores-Smith. They are calling for the Department of Justice and the FBI to investigate possible civil rights violations. An FBI spokesman would not confirm an investigation.
Flores-Smith reports that she's seen strangers watching her house and taking photos. She says vandals have trashed her yard, and someone has rifled through her garbage. She is worried about her safety.
Last month, school employees found that vandals had damaged the brakes of three Hempstead Independent School District buses and had left behind the bedraggled remains of a dead cat.
Hate crimes?
A bus with visibly severed brake lines didn't leave the bus barn that morning. But two other buses, whose air-brake lines had been subtly nicked, carried children to school before the damage was discovered. Police investigated but didn't identify any suspects.
"A lot of this sounds like Mississippi in the 1950s and '60s," Pinedo said during Monday night's school board meeting, where the decision was made not to renew Lacey's contract.
Pinedo acknowledged that there's no hard evidence that the incidents are related or that they're hate crimes.
"But when the lives of children are put in danger, that's the bottom line," he said. "We don't know what the reasons are. Rather than guess, we're asking the FBI to step in."
He said LULAC and the Mexican American Legal Defense Fund have asked the Department of Justice to investigate possible civil rights violations.
"The whole world is watching," said Tony Diaz, head of the Houston-based radio show Nuestra Palabra and founder of the advocacy group Librotraficantes. "Banning Spanish is a national issue."
"We got a lot of calls about activity in Hempstead," said Cynthia Coles, who represented the Greater Houston Coalition for Justice. "We came to support this board, this superintendent."
They also note that there's no evidence that speaking Spanish hampers learning English, and note that in most of the rest of the world, it's common to speak two or more languages.
At the school district's board meeting in January, Pinedo read a list of American Founding Fathers who spoke multiple languages. They included Benjamin Franklin (French) and Thomas Jefferson (French, Italian, Spanish and Latin).
Business chief ousted
In other action at the meeting Monday, the board voted not to renew the contract of longtime business manager Sharon Loukanis. In October the board had placed her on leave while investigating financial irregularities including work allegedly steered to the plumbing company owned by Loukanis' husband.
Both Lacey's and Loukanis' contracts will expire at the end of the school year.
Before the board's vote, former school board member Kay Kloecker argued that Lacey and Loukanis should be reinstated. Lacey and Loukanis, she said, "continue to get paychecks, but we're paying consultants to do their jobs. The public deserves an explanation for why we haven't had them come back to work when it's been shown that none of the allegations is true."
Lacey said the terms of her leave don't allow her to comment.
Outside the board meeting, Kloecker said that the problem was Flores-Smith, not issues of culture or race.
"We've been a predominantly Hispanic district for several years now," she said. "But we never had a problem until she came." Flores-Smith started the job in August.
After the vote, Flores-Smith expressed satisfaction. "I'm hoping everything will die down now," she said. "We need to get back to peaceful living. And education."
http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Principal-who-told-kids-not-to-speak-Spanish-will-5327528.php
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Tone of the video was, uh, curious.
I think it's the correct move to take her out of that job at that school (actually, they're just not renewing her contract) but think that if she was an otherwise good employee, an effort should be made to find her another position in the school district.
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Some of those comments are ridiculous.
It is not that speaking spanish is wrong. The problem is that many refuse to learn the language. They refuse to assimilate. Is it wrong for a person to be bilingual? Of course not. Is it wrong to reject the english language and act like everyone else should speak spanish and translate everything for you? Yes.
Why are businesses offering spanish as an option on their 1-800 numbers? Why is almost every correspondence translated? When I LEGALLY came to this country none of that was offered to me. I had to learn the language.
What are the odds that Mexico, Central America and South America puts in the same effort to speak english and encourage their citizens to be as tolerable? They laugh and show contempt for the americanized mexicanos, guatemaltecos, salvadoreņos, etc...
If you are going to be here, learn the language. The nation (citizens) shouldn't have to accomodate nor put up with people living here 30 years and still not knowing a spit of english.
Aprendan ingles ya, bonche de anormales nacionalistas. Ya no estan en su nacion. Aprendan o empiezen a largarse!
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Some of those comments are ridiculous.
It is not that speaking spanish is wrong. The problem is that many refuse to learn the language. They refuse to assimilate. Is it wrong for a person to be bilingual? Of course not. Is it wrong to reject the english language and act like everyone else should speak spanish and translate everything for you? Yes.
Why are businesses offering spanish as an option on their 1-800 numbers? Why is almost every correspondence translated? When I LEGALLY came to this country none of that was offered to me. I had to learn the language.
What are the odds that Mexico, Central America and South America puts in the same effort to speak english and encourage their citizens to be as tolerable? They laugh and show contempt for the americanized mexicanos, guatemaltecos, salvadoreņos, etc...
If you are going to be here, learn the language. The nation (citizens) shouldn't have to accomodate nor put up with people living here 30 years and still not knowing a spit of english.
Aprendan ingles ya, bonche de anormales nacionalistas. Ya no estan en su nacion. Aprendan o empiezen a largarse!
Holy shit! Where are you from, Dario?
(I might have to be nicer to you --- I have much respect for people who have had to go through the bullshit of learning how to live in a foreign country -- shit is not easy...)
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....learn the goddam language...period. When in Germany I make an effort to speak German....in Latin America, Spanish. I can also say put the AK down or I'll shot u in the face..in several middle eastern languages. The damm Mexicans here just look at you like an idiot if you ask them if they understand English.
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....learn the goddam language...period. When in Germany I make an effort to speak German....in Latin America, Spanish. I can also say put the AK down or I'll shot u in the face..in several middle eastern languages. The damm Mexicans here just look at you like an idiot if you ask them if they understand English.
C'mon, HH6, fess up: You tried to learn German and Spanish to get bitches. I know that was my primary motivation when I was stationed in Augsburg.
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Holy shit! Where are you from, Dario?
(I might have to be nicer to you --- I have much respect for people who have had to go through the bullshit of learning how to live in a foreign country -- shit is not easy...)
Dario's tha man. He hates racist people...and Hispanics too.
Nah, I kid, I kid. :)
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....learn the goddam language...period. When in Germany I make an effort to speak German....in Latin America, Spanish. I can also say put the AK down or I'll shot u in the face..in several middle eastern languages. The damm Mexicans here just look at you like an idiot if you ask them if they understand English.
LOL!!!
These people act like this is their native land. Everyone knows English is the language of the USA. Period. There should be a movement to make English the national language.
But the libtards/progressives have eroded the necessity for these illegals to learn. They want to destroy USA. And this is one of those ways.
Now you have ESPN en Espaņol. What the heck? HBO en Espaņol?
I got into a huge argument with my mother years ago when I told her to learn the language. I don't care where you come from. It's not where you're from, it's where you're at. LEARN THE LANGUAGE!!
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Dario's tha man. He hates racist people...and Hispanics too.
Nah, I kid, I kid. :)
I am Hispanic.
I love LEGAL Hispanics.
I don't hate illegals but I don't think they should cut the line of immigration and be awarded for breaking the law.
Breaking the law goes beyond crossing the border. How about the fake social security numbers, auto insurance fraud, the breaking of housing occupancy laws, stolen identity crimes, etc.
They, NOT ALL but CERTAINLY MANY, commit more crimes trying to stay here.
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C'mon, HH6, fess up: You tried to learn German and Spanish to get bitches. I know that was my primary motivation when I was stationed in Augsburg.
I took German in college so I could better understand and complete my senior thesis...plus its German. The Spanish is for my current assignment wasting tax dollars in latin America.
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....learn the goddam language...period. When in Germany I make an effort to speak German....in Latin America, Spanish. I can also say put the AK down or I'll shot u in the face..in several middle eastern languages. The damm Mexicans here just look at you like an idiot if you ask them if they understand English.
I've actually heard stories of some of my Hispanic friends who got onto other Hispanics when they bad mouthed the country or wore Mexico apparel.
A buddy of mine who is like 3rd or 4th generation Hispanic family all of whom were from Laredo says he "Misses the old days in Laredo when everyone spoke English. Now everyone wants to speak Spanish all the time"
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I got into a huge argument with my mother years ago when I told her to learn the language. I don't care where you come from. It's not where you're from, it's where you're at. LEARN THE LANGUAGE!!
Usually the older generation. Fucking resentful idiots. Hate the fact that their dumpy shithole country is in such a state that they have to sneak in to a proper 1st world country to survive. Refusing to assimilate is their pay back.
Fucking welfare rats. I'd give them 5 years to learn the language fluently and get a job. After that ALL welfare payments stops and you get deported back to the rats' nest you crawled from.
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That's when every group coming over regardless of from where...assimilated. My relatives from Italy would not allow their kids to speak Italian in the house...they were in America, speak English. The libs have chipped away at America and assimilation and this is just another sad example.
Or go the james28 route...I like this guy...will have a job for him when this all comes crashing down.
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That's when every group coming over regardless of from where...assimilated. My relatives from Italy would not allow their kids to speak Italian in the house...they were in America, speak English. The libs have chipped away at America and assimilation and this is just another sad example.
Or go the james28 route...I like this guy...will have a job for him when this all comes crashing down.
I'm just curious is there anything,i mean anything that's the conservatives fault
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Absolutely...we allowed you people to breed. ;D
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Absolutely...we allowed you people to breed. ;D
well GREAT I'm glad they fucked up something ;D
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That's when every group coming over regardless of from where...assimilated. My relatives from Italy would not allow their kids to speak Italian in the house...they were in America, speak English. The libs have chipped away at America and assimilation and this is just another sad example.
Or go the james28 route...I like this guy...will have a job for him when this all comes crashing down.
FIVE years. F.I.V.E is all I'll give them to get a leg up in their host countries. And I still think that's too kind but I'll swallow the payments for that long. After that I'll send the army in to drag them from their nests and flat out on their arses back to wherever the fuck. When I done my Masters in Scandinavia I found a job the first day. Day 1 of living there. That's me not being able to say 'hello' in Norwegian yet I still scored a job and earned my way. Yet there's slime that's been sitting on the scrap heap for decades without making any effort.
What I'd truly do is line them up and execute them in front of their children but I'll settle for the 5 year rule.
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I am Hispanic.
I love LEGAL Hispanics.
I don't hate illegals but I don't think they should cut the line of immigration and be awarded for breaking the law.
Breaking the law goes beyond crossing the border. How about the fake social security numbers, auto insurance fraud, the breaking of housing occupancy laws, stolen identity crimes, etc.
They, NOT ALL but CERTAINLY MANY, commit more crimes trying to stay here.
I know, amigo. I was just joking. :)
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I took German in college so I could better understand and complete my senior thesis...plus its German. The Spanish is for my current assignment wasting tax dollars in latin America.
What a coincidence. I have took 5 semesters of college German myself after I got out of the Army.
Ich hab' fast alles vergessen. (Including whether or not to captialize "alles".)
Also I brought home a German "war bride" (lol) but actually her English was about as good as mine. We divorced after a few years, though, and she went back home, got her Masters and almost her PhD before getting hired by AMD in Berlin where she makes big bucks as something like the Director of procurement or some such shit.
I hadn't spoken to her for 20 years but had to find her again because of the "have you ever sponsored a foreign national before" question on the application for my current (Thai) wife's fiancee visa application. (USCIS wanted to know dates and A-# and all that stuff but my disorganized ass had thrown out all that paperwork long ago. -- The German ex-wife still had all of it, though, lol.)
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I'm just curious is there anything,i mean anything that's the conservatives fault
There is fault to lay at the feet of those who CALL themselves conservatives but are a bunch of RINOs bought by the all mighty corporate dollar.
I will admit that these supposed conservatives like Boehner, Ryan, McCain, McConnell and others are nothing but corporatists.
What better way to fatten your wallet and fill your bank account than by providing a workforce to a corporation who will give you a job as a lobbyist, spokesman, or a seat on their board of directors after your political career is over?
I am becoming increasingly weary of the current GOP.