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Title: help me figure out why the sum of all numbers to infinity= -1/12
Post by: Marty Champions on March 29, 2014, 06:40:01 AM

remember math is the basis of everything the more knowledge the better we can apply in areas of our life to improve



i get kinda lost in the assumptions and that accent in the video help me understand what they are trying to convey, i find it interesting, it seems a pretty bold and fascinating claim

he says there is no infinity in physics. you know if always ponderd this, such as is a circle 'infinitly' divisible by a straight line in theory? it seems like no but the math seems to say yes if the lines are 'infinitly small" but infinitly small doesnt make any logical sense either

i find these sort of math tricks the key to everything if only enough people played around with them
Title: Re: help me figure out why the sum of all numbers to infinity= -1/12
Post by: _aj_ on March 29, 2014, 06:41:24 AM
Simple, because God has 12 fingers and pi toes.
Title: Re: help me figure out why the sum of all numbers to infinity= -1/12
Post by: Marty Champions on March 29, 2014, 06:44:45 AM
you see these are the type of questions (not my question but the refined question in the video) that 99.9 percent of people give up but miss out on the gold nugget of knowing

this is analogous to the 93% of people who miss out on the benefits of eating right and working out, that never see the benefits because they quit at it

its a sheer numbers game, everything is and its much our fault because of the amount of quitters and the few people that stick with it to figure it out. only a small percent stick with something to figure it out no matter what it is, even less stick with the math but thats where the holy grail of treasures lye
Title: Re: help me figure out why the sum of all numbers to infinity= -1/12
Post by: Marty Champions on March 29, 2014, 06:47:31 AM
Simple, because God has 12 fingers and pi toes.
you should die for getting in the way of learning
Title: Re: help me figure out why the sum of all numbers to infinity= -1/12
Post by: Radical Plato on March 29, 2014, 06:49:29 AM
I have often wondered what number is Infinity minus one  ;D
Title: Re: help me figure out why the sum of all numbers to infinity= -1/12
Post by: Marty Champions on March 29, 2014, 06:59:05 AM
someone please explain the motherfucking video and stop making stupid posts either shut the fuck up or explain it in a way we can all understand

or should we say the posters here are so pathetic they dont even try even when faced with any adversity in there life (no wonder most juice and eat meat the two easy ways to escape adversity)when  the reward of knowing could bring in all sorts of good fortunes
Title: Re: help me figure out why the sum of all numbers to infinity= -1/12
Post by: Radical Plato on March 29, 2014, 07:07:23 AM
someone please explain the motherfucking video and stop making stupid posts either shut the fuck up or explain it in a way we can all understand

or should we say the posters here are so pathetic they dont even try even when faced with any adversity in there life (no wonder most juice and eat meat the two easy ways to escape adversity)when  the reward of knowing could bring in all sorts of good fortunes

Oh, I didn't even watch the video, infinity is a head fuck and a sure path to madness.  Hope this helps.
Title: Re: help me figure out why the sum of all numbers to infinity= -1/12
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 29, 2014, 07:11:29 AM
I will have to go to Brainetics.com to figure this equation out.
Title: Re: help me figure out why the sum of all numbers to infinity= -1/12
Post by: Marty Champions on March 29, 2014, 07:15:00 AM
Oh, I didn't even watch the video, infinity is a head fuck and a sure path to madness.  Hope this helps.
of course you didnt watch, ive already explained your personality type in the second post of this thread. you are just a worthless human good for nothing

i suggest the likes of you fuck off because you are to weak to learn
Title: Re: help me figure out why the sum of all numbers to infinity= -1/12
Post by: _aj_ on March 29, 2014, 07:17:37 AM
"Marty" appears to be bringing a good deal of anger into his mathematics journey. It's a novel approach.
Title: Re: help me figure out why the sum of all numbers to infinity= -1/12
Post by: Marty Champions on March 29, 2014, 07:18:35 AM
I will have to go to Brainetics.com to figure this equation out.
only good post in this thread

now by statistics we have 1 out of 80 veiws even just vaugley attempting to explain the video above

thus only 1 out of 80 people  have the intelligence, will, strength to even consider confronting adversity without cheating

mr nobody i ask, what are superior minds like me and you even wasting our time here for, do we really need to care so much for these pathetic civilization here?
Title: Re: help me figure out why the sum of all numbers to infinity= -1/12
Post by: Marty Champions on March 29, 2014, 07:25:54 AM
now enough of me ridiculeing you people, ridicule is only effective in small dosages.

the problem i have with the video and teachers in general is that they just fly through the explaination of there point way too fucking fast like they just want you to accept it and fuck off.
Title: Re: help me figure out why the sum of all numbers to infinity= -1/12
Post by: Radical Plato on March 29, 2014, 07:31:03 AM
now enough of me ridiculeing you people, ridicule is only effective in small dosages.

the problem i have with the video and teachers in general is that they just fly through the explaination of there point way too fucking fast like they just want you to accept it and fuck off.
It's because it is just a mathematical trick, you can't get to a point where the equation ends to determine what it actually equals. It's like trying to find the starting point of a circle.  In other words - They are WRONG !  Their premise that 1+1-1+1-1+1-1 ... = 1/2 is WRONG, therefore everything else that stems from that is also WRONG.

There is no mechanism in real numbers by which addition of positive numbers can roll over into negative. It doesn't matter that infinity is involved: you can't following a monotonically increasing trend, and wind up with something smaller than your starting point.

Some questions have no answers....
Title: Re: help me figure out why the sum of all numbers to infinity= -1/12
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on March 29, 2014, 07:39:49 AM
Infinity is an abstract concept, you can't attempt to express it in terms of numbers.

It's like the square root of -1 ... there is no number that can be multiplied by itself to yield a negative number, so we express this abstract concept as i

Hope this helps a bit
Title: Re: help me figure out why the sum of all numbers to infinity= -1/12
Post by: Shockwave on March 29, 2014, 09:08:13 AM
Infinity is an abstract concept, you can't attempt to express it in terms of numbers.

It's like the square root of -1 ... there is no number that can be multiplied by itself to yield a negative number, so we express this abstract concept as i

Hope this helps a bit
my thinking says this... the fact that theyre trying ti use an abstract idea that actually has no quantafiable value makes it seem like theyre just wasting their tine fucking around and arbitrarily put out an answer for an unsolvable concept.

im not smart enough to answer this, but my logical side says you HAVE to have a quantifiable value to do any sort of mathematical equation.

infinity is not a number. Its an idea. Therefore it creates an unsolvable equation because it HAS NO QUANTIFIABLE value
Title: Re: help me figure out why the sum of all numbers to infinity= -1/12
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 29, 2014, 09:17:33 AM
only good post in this thread

now by statistics we have 1 out of 80 veiws even just vaugley attempting to explain the video above

thus only 1 out of 80 people  have the intelligence, will, strength to even consider confronting adversity without cheating

mr nobody i ask, what are superior minds like me and you even wasting our time here for, do we really need to care so much for these pathetic civilization here?
Yes see we are taught to pay contractors and such to plumb, carpentry, paint difficult areas etc. When we have that knowledge within ourselves. However I am interested in Avesher's reduction from 275 to 205 or so he has showed us he really weighs that much. Some of these threads are useless on GB just how many steroids you can take, heme-iron intake, fags trying to take control = mental illness.
Title: Re: help me figure out why the sum of all numbers to infinity= -1/12
Post by: Ropo on March 29, 2014, 09:20:15 AM

remember math is the basis of everything the more knowledge the better we can apply in areas of our life to improve



i get kinda lost in the assumptions and that accent in the video help me understand what they are trying to convey, i find it interesting, it seems a pretty bold and fascinating claim

he says there is no infinity in physics. you know if always ponderd this, such as is a circle 'infinitly' divisible by a straight line in theory? it seems like no but the math seems to say yes if the lines are 'infinitly small" but infinitly small doesnt make any logical sense either

i find these sort of math tricks the key to everything if only enough people played around with them

If you didn't understand the explanation on the video, how anybody on this earth could explain it to you? I rather try to explain it to the my dog or my daughter's hamster, and both of those  would understand it faster than you ever will. You have find your limits, now just try to live with it  ;D
Title: Re: help me figure out why the sum of all numbers to infinity= -1/12
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on March 29, 2014, 09:23:50 AM
my thinking says this... the fact that theyre trying ti use an abstract idea that actually has no quantafiable value makes it seem like theyre just wasting their tine fucking around and arbitrarily put out an answer for an unsolvable concept.

im not smart enough to answer this, but my logical side says you HAVE to have a quantifiable value to do any sort of mathematical equation.

infinity is not a number. Its an idea. Therefore it creates an unsolvable equation because it HAS NO QUANTIFIABLE value

No, that's certainly not true....the idea of infinity is very important in calculus/higher-level physics.  Algebraic equations, not so much.

For example, consider the function f (x) = 1/x .  As x increases, y decreases.  However, there is no value for x that is so large that y will equal 0.  As x approaches infinity, y APPROACHES 0 but is never equal to zero.  This is known as an asymptote.  There is no way to express this idea without the concept of infinity.

In other words, as a function approaches infinity, what happens to the output?

Don't think of infinity as a number.... rather it's a concept we created to explain mathematical phenomena.  You wouldn't use it in in an equation because like you said, it's not quantifiable
Title: Re: help me figure out why the sum of all numbers to infinity= -1/12
Post by: TEH boob on March 29, 2014, 09:27:31 AM
Infinity is an abstract concept, you can't attempt to express it in terms of numbers.

It's like the square root of -1 ... there is no number that can be multiplied by itself to yield a negative number, so we express this abstract concept as i

Hope this helps a bit

X2

You can understand what they're doing in the video, but their result (-1/12) is just a placeholder for infinity
Title: Re: help me figure out why the sum of all numbers to infinity= -1/12
Post by: _bruce_ on March 29, 2014, 09:28:52 AM
Proud Virgin seems knowledgeable - are you an engineer?
Title: Re: help me figure out why the sum of all numbers to infinity= -1/12
Post by: Shockwave on March 29, 2014, 09:33:52 AM
No, that's certainly not true....the idea of infinity is very important in calculus/higher-level physics.  Algebraic equations, not so much.

For example, consider the function f (x) = 1/x .  As x increases, y decreases.  However, there is no value for x that is so large that y will equal 0.  As x approaches infinity, y APPROACHES 0 but is never equal to zero.  This is known as an asymptote.  There is no way to express this idea without the concept of infinity.

In other words, as a function approaches infinity, what happens to the output?

Don't think of infinity as a number.... rather it's a concept we created to explain mathematical phenomena.  You wouldn't use it in in an equation because like you said, it's not quantifiable
Ah. As I said, im not smart enough to answer that having only gotten through college algebra II.... just trying to use my logical thought process and rudimentary understanding of mathematics to come up with something that made sense, but this does as well. Basically my same thought process. ... that infinity cannot be expressed as a number.
Title: Re: help me figure out why the sum of all numbers to infinity= -1/12
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on March 29, 2014, 09:38:36 AM
Proud Virgin seems knowledgeable - are you an engineer?


Lol hell no....I'm going into nursing.  I just like math.

It's so universal, transcending language, culture, and environment.....I find it quite beautiful. 1 + 1 = 2 no matter where/when/who you are.... not much else that we can say that about
Title: Re: help me figure out why the sum of all numbers to infinity= -1/12
Post by: Thick Nick on March 29, 2014, 09:41:41 AM
Who else would love to hear a live debate between Sev, TA, and Falcon on 3 topics. Genetics... Diet... And Physics?

Fuck that would be entertaining.
Title: Re: help me figure out why the sum of all numbers to infinity= -1/12
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on March 29, 2014, 09:46:40 AM
Ah. As I said, im not smart enough to answer that having only gotten through college algebra II.... just trying to use my logical thought process and rudimentary understanding of mathematics to come up with something that made sense, but this does as well. Basically my same thought process. ... that infinity cannot be expressed as a number.

You've got the right idea.  It's a tool used to explain more advanced mathematical concepts.  Certainly not anything that can be expressed as a number
Title: Re: help me figure out why the sum of all numbers to infinity= -1/12
Post by: forillagorilla on March 29, 2014, 09:48:14 AM
of course you didnt watch, ive already explained your personality type in the second post of this thread. you are just a worthless human good for nothing

i suggest the likes of you fuck off because you are to weak to learn

Figuring out this video will not save you from being a flabby little pussy - that's shit stings doesn't it??? Can't even garner respect anon on the net. Ha
Title: Re: help me figure out why the sum of all numbers to infinity= -1/12
Post by: Shockwave on March 29, 2014, 09:49:44 AM
Figuring out this video will not save you from being a flabby little pussy - that's shit stings doesn't it??? Can't even garner respect anon on the net. Ha
uh, thats johnny falcon/daddywaddy. And hes almost back in shape. His oics are posted all over here. Think youre thinking of a different dude.
Title: Re: help me figure out why the sum of all numbers to infinity= -1/12
Post by: _bruce_ on March 29, 2014, 09:54:53 AM
Lol hell no....I'm going into nursing.  I just like math.

It's so universal, transcending language, culture, and environment.....I find it quite beautiful. 1 + 1 = 2 no matter where/when/who you are.... not much else that we can say that about

Interesting - on and off I like to code a bit and without a somewhat solid math base one's often left with empty screens and a sore asshole.
If you've got the time you can look into Donald E. Knuth's books - an analytical giant wielding the blade of math with lethal accuracy.
Title: Re: help me figure out why the sum of all numbers to infinity= -1/12
Post by: stuntmovie on March 29, 2014, 11:11:13 AM
Strange because this same topic came up during one of our Poker sessions recently and me being the dumbest one in the group did some Googeling and came up with the following :

THE EASIEST ANSWER .....The sum of all numbers from (-infinity, +infinity) would be 0. For every number there is one with the same absolute value but opposite sign. So 1 would cancel with -1 to zero and this is true for all of the numbers.

MOST CONFUSING IS THE FACT THAT ... "Infinity" is not a number so it's somewhat difficult to develop a math equation which would result in the precise answer.

Does anyone get a bit dizzy while thinking about the never-ending concept of eternity?
Title: Re: help me figure out why the sum of all numbers to infinity= -1/12
Post by: Marty Champions on March 29, 2014, 01:20:16 PM
Strange because this same topic came up during one of our Poker sessions recently and me being the dumbest one in the group did some Googeling and came up with the following :

THE EASIEST ANSWER .....The sum of all numbers from (-infinity, +infinity) would be 0. For every number there is one with the same absolute value but opposite sign. So 1 would cancel with -1 to zero and this is true for all of the numbers.

MOST CONFUSING IS THE FACT THAT ... "Infinity" is not a number so it's somewhat difficult to develop a math equation which would result in the precise answer.

Does anyone get a bit dizzy while thinking about the never-ending concept of eternity?

i just say that infinity only can be represented by a variable. and that the video i posted makes no sense to me because it is non sensicle the seem to have other math videos of wich i shalt report back after review
Title: Re: help me figure out why the sum of all numbers to infinity= -1/12
Post by: Marty Champions on March 29, 2014, 01:31:07 PM
You've got the right idea.  It's a tool used to explain more advanced mathematical concepts.  Certainly not anything that can be expressed as a number
so in your opinion the video is a bullshit video and incorrect in saying the sum of all numbers is negative 1/12


i find it difficult to comprehend how the even came to that number, its unfortunate because it seems it is wrong anyways thus nothing to learn, therefore we must assume i am a natural brilliant mind for pointing out this mathmatecial fallacy without having obtained any formal mathmatical education
Title: Re: help me figure out why the sum of all numbers to infinity= -1/12
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on March 29, 2014, 01:46:04 PM
so in your opinion the video is a bullshit video and incorrect in saying the sum of all numbers is negative 1/12


i find it difficult to comprehend how the even came to that number, its unfortunate because it seems it is wrong anyways thus nothing to learn, therefore we must assume i am a natural brilliant mind for pointing out this mathmatecial fallacy without having obtained any formal mathmatical education

I'm sorry Johnny, but I didn't watch the video  :-[

If I had to guess, they're abusing the rules of math to get some kind of gimmick answer.....sort of like how you can "prove" that .99999999 = 1.  Is it true? I don't think so, but it is possible to set a balanced equation up that would indicate that.

I would suggest visiting your local college/university and speaking with one of the math professors about this.  They are generally quite good about helping those with a genuine interest in mathematics
Title: Re: help me figure out why the sum of all numbers to infinity= -1/12
Post by: Marty Champions on March 29, 2014, 02:01:01 PM
I'm sorry Johnny, but I didn't watch the video  :-[

If I had to guess, they're abusing the rules of math to get some kind of gimmick answer.....sort of like how you can "prove" that .99999999 = 1.  Is it true? I don't think so, but it is possible to set a balanced equation up that would indicate that.

I would suggest visiting your local college/university and speaking with one of the math professors about this.  They are generally quite good about helping those with a genuine interest in mathematics
i am interested in bruce's post about donald knute, i desire to program or CONTROL computers eventually

but sense you choose not to watch the video i feel you are missing out in the creative abuse of mathmatic laws that they are undertaking. there could be something learned or not
Title: Re: help me figure out why the sum of all numbers to infinity= -1/12
Post by: haider on March 29, 2014, 02:28:50 PM
These questions and their answers can only be pondered under the influence of meth and paint fumes.