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White Man Beaten By Mob In Detroit After Hitting Boy With Truck: Was It A Hate Crime?
April 4, 2014 6:55 AM
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A man who struck a boy with his pickup truck was beaten by a crowd near this corner gas station, police said. (Credit: Mike Campbell/WWJ Newsradio 950)
DETROIT (WWJ) - As a 54-year-old Roseville man clings to life in the hospital following a brutal mob beating on Detroit’s east side, many are starting to wonder if the whole thing was racially motivated.
As first reported by WWJ Newsradio 950, an 11-year-old boy suffered a broken leg on Wednesday when he was hit by a pickup truck after walking into the street near Morang and Balfour. The driver, Steven Utash, immediately got out of his truck after hitting the boy and was viciously attacked by 10 to 12 men. The beating was so brutal, Utash was rendered unconscious.
Utash’s son Joseph told WWJ’s Gary Lundy Thursday night that his father remains in a medically induced coma, nearly unrecognizable due to his injuries. He also said his wallet was stolen from his truck.
“If it went on any longer, my dad wouldn’t be in the hospital right now, he would be in the morgue. The way he looked, I am surprised that he is alive,” he said. “He has bruising over his face, his eyes are swollen, I believe it’s his left eye that is completely swollen shut. He also has a big, huge knot on his forehead like he got hit with an object, not a fist.”
Joseph Utash said he was working with his father in Detroit just hours before the attack. Both of the men are tree-trimmers, working in the city for years now.
“I came home from work and it was on the news, my dad’s pickup truck, and I was just like ‘Oh my god.’ Then I heard that he hit a kid and I was like freaking out that my dad hit a kid. And then I heard that bystanders just beat him up and I just, I called my mom immediately,” he said. ”From what I’m hearing is he tried to fight back, but trying to fight back against 11 people fighting you, that’s 22 fists coming at you at once, you can’t really do much.”
Detroit Police Sgt. Michael Woody said Steven Utash was not at fault for the accident.
“Our preliminary investigation shows the child stepped in front of his vehicle,” Woody said. “He did exactly the right thing. He stopped his vehicle, he got out and he tried to render aid to a small child. He did exactly what he was supposed to do… It was a small child and it was an accident; is what it was.”
State Rep. Alberta Tinsley Talabi (D-Detroit), told WWJ Legal Analyst Charlie Langton the incident appears to have racial overtones, adding, “it’s wrong.”
Joseph Utash said although it was tough to stomach, he watched video of the incident.
“It shows the kid, he was standing on the curb with his dad and as my dad’s truck was coming down the street, the kid stepped right in front of my dad’s truck. My dad had absolutely not one chance in the world to try to swerve out-of-the-way or stop,” he said. “He got out of the car to check on the kid and before he even got up to the kid, he got assaulted by 11, 12 people. They jumped all over him and beat him up. While they were jumping him, somebody else jumped in the truck and stole his belongings. They took his wallet, his cellphone, everything out of his truck.”
Sgt. Woody said the gas station at the corner where the accident happened is a popular neighborhood gathering place, so it was no surprise that there were 20 or 30 people at the scene of the attack.
“It didn’t take very long for people to converge on the area when they saw the accident take place,” Woody said. “When the child was struck, he was in a lot of pain, there was screaming and crying. He was terrified, I’m sure, and I think that’s what drew the attention of the people in the immediate area.”
One woman stepped in to help Steven Utash. Nurse Debra Hughes intervened and stopped the attack: “He was already down, bleeding from the mouth and the nose – so there wasn’t nothing else they could do to him but kill him,” she said.
“Then EMS came and I kept him calm, I kept his hands down and everything so he could be comfortable,” said Hughes. “He had the biggest gash on his head I ever seen – he was bleeding from the mouth and he was unconscious when I first got there … being a registered nurse, I thought I could go out and help him.”
Joseph Utash said he believes his father was intentionally targeted or even worse, that skin color might have played a role. Based on witness accounts, the attackers were African American.
“I’ve talked to one Detroit police officer and I think that, personally in my own heart, I think it was all a setup from the gate,” he said, ”meaning that my dad’s been driving up and down Morang for 15, 16 years working for the same company and they know he has a job, they know he has money and they robbed him. You know, he had a bag with all his stuff in it. He showed me that he had all this money in his wallet that morning, telling me he just took the money out of the bank so he could pay his dentist.
“As far as a hate crime, it might be,” he said. “You know, it’s like you go in Detroit and you’re white, you don’t belong. Seriously. I’ve been pulled over by police before and they’re like ‘Get back across 8 Mile,’ like I’m not supposed to be over there, like I’m not allowed to go in Detroit.”
Police declined to say if investigators thought the attack was racially charged.
The boy, David Harris, is expected to recover from his injuries, according to his uncle, Desmond Key. No arrests have been made in the beating, but the boy’s father was taken into custody, on an unrelated warrant.
“At this point, based on [the pickup driver's] condition, there’s some pretty serious charges that we’re looking at,” Sgt. Woody said.
Police are hoping the public can help investigators find those responsible for the beating.
Anyone who witnessed the attack, can identify the assailants, or who has any information about this case is urged to call Detroit police at 313-596-1616. Tips can be made anonymously to Crime Stoppers at 1-800-SPEAK-UP.
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How come you only post instances of black-on-white racism?
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Is this a guess the race?
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Animals.
Detroit now = africa.
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How come you only post instances of black-on-white racism?
Instances of white-on-anyone racism are few and far between these days, while stories like this are extremely common.
:-X
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Instances of white-on-anyone racism are few and far between these days. :-\
Really? You don't think whites are racist? I know what you're trying to say, but I think you could have worded that better.
Blacks are still disenfranchised, it's just something that is so widespread on an institutional/societal level that we don't even notice it
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Really? You don't think whites are racist? I know what you're trying to say, but I think you could have worded that better.
Blacks are still disenfranchised, it's just something that is so widespread on an institutional/societal level that we don't even notice it
Is that tree trimmer whose now in a coma at fault for this? Does he owe the black community anything?
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Is that tree trimmer whose now in a coma at fault for this? Does he owe the black community anything?
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Im not excusing their actions of course.... what they did is deplorable.
Do you really think that whites aren't racist these days? That any incident of whites being racist is really "few and far between"?
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Im not excusing their actions of course.... what they did is deplorable.
Do you really think that whites aren't racist these days? That any incident of whites being racist is really "few and far between"?
White people can be racist, unfortunately they're not racist enough to stand up for their common interests anymore as a people. :-\
We don't need to get into statistics, but I'm sure you're aware of the astronomical disparity in crime rates by race.
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Really? You don't think whites are racist? I know what you're trying to say, but I think you could have worded that better.
Blacks are still disenfranchised, it's just something that is so widespread on an institutional/societal level that we don't even notice it
Oh boy. Why even bring this up? Whats the point?
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White people can be racist, unfortunately they're not racist enough to stand up for their common interests anymore as a people. :-\
We don't need to get into statistics, but I'm sure you're aware of the astronomical disparity in crime rates by race.
Of course.... I would say that centuries of systematic discrimination in America led to decreased opportunity for most blacks, compared to other races. Less opportunity means less money which tends to lead to more crime.
I don't think there's anything inherent to any race that would predispose them to crime...but I do think that any child born into poverty is far more likely to remain poor, commit crimes, and have more children born into poverty--perpetuating the cycle.
Of course, it is possible for ANYONE to overcome difficult circumstances...but it'll be that much more difficult to achieve success. And I think, proportionally, more blacks are born into difficult situations than are whites. Hence the disproportionate crime rates between races
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Oh boy. Why even bring this up? Whats the point?
You're right.... not gonna change any minds here. I'm just sitting at a cafe and I'm bored so i figured what the hey
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Of course.... I would say that centuries of systematic discrimination in America led to decreased opportunity for most blacks, compared to other races. Less opportunity means less money which tends to lead to more crime.
I don't think there's anything inherent to any race that would predispose them to crime...but I do think that any child born into poverty is far more likely to remain poor, commit crimes, and have more children born into poverty--perpetuating the cycle.
Of course, it is possible for ANYONE to overcome difficult circumstances...but it'll be that much more difficult to achieve success. And I think, proportionally, more blacks are born into difficult situations than are whites. Hence the disproportionate crime rates between races
When over 70% of black children are born to unwed mothers that's going to be a problem. And he posted it because it's never called a hate crime when this shit happens; the press steers clear and you'll never hear a word from Obama. If a white mob did this it would be all over the news and Sharpton and Jackson would be holding press conferences.
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How come you only post instances of black-on-white racism?
Does it bother you?
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When over 70% of black children are born to unwed mothers that's going to be a problem. And he posted it because it's never called a hate crime when this shit happens; the press steers clear and you'll never hear a word from Obama. If a white mob did this it would be all over the news and Sharpton and Jackson would be holding press conferences.
That wasn't always the case. I want to see stats for pre 1960s black families, prior to all the whitey libtards taking control over social programs.
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Really? You don't think whites are racist? I know what you're trying to say, but I think you could have worded that better.
Blacks are still disenfranchised, it's just something that is so widespread on an institutional/societal level that we don't even notice it
By "disenfranchised" you actually mean "subnormal"......correct?
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When over 70% of black children are born to unwed mothers that's going to be a problem. And he posted it because it's never called a hate crime when this shit happens; the press steers clear and you'll never hear a word from Obama. If a white mob did this it would be all over the news and Sharpton and Jackson would be holding press conferences.
TRUTH. I have yet to see a video of a black or asian guy getting rushed by a mob of white people and robbed at the same time. Maybe 50-60 years ago but not recently.
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When over 70% of black children are born to unwed mothers that's going to be a problem. And he posted it because it's never called a hate crime when this shit happens; the press steers clear and you'll never hear a word from Obama. If a white mob did this it would be all over the news and Sharpton and Jackson would be holding press conferences.
He never should have gotten out of his truck. Fuck it, just keep right on driving.
Very strong argument for why you should always carry.
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Does it bother you?
Nah I'm a white male, everybody loves me....I just wonder why "Roger Bacon" doesn't just get straight to the point and make a thread titled "I hate blacks" instead of posting thinly-veiled racism
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Nah I'm a white male, everybody loves me....I just wonder why "Roger Bacon" doesn't just get straight to the point and make a thread titled "I hate blacks" instead of posting thinly-veiled racism
black from inner city HATE YOU...don't fool yourslef
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Nah I'm a white male, everybody loves me....I just wonder why "Roger Bacon" doesn't just get straight to the point and make a thread titled "I hate blacks" instead of posting thinly-veiled racism
I make an exception for black people like Wiggs, Parker, Lobstah, McWay, and several black people offline though.
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I make an exception for black people like Wiggs, Parker, Lobstah, McWay, and several black people offline though.
1) Haha this made me laugh... wasn't expecting such a frank reply ;D
2) MCWAY is black?
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Never in a million years would a mob of white people jump a black guy seconds after an accident like this, stomp the shit out of him, beat him to near death, and then rob him. Never in a million fucking years.
Disenfranchised my balls.
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He never should have gotten out of his truck. Fuck it, just keep right on driving.
Very strong argument for why you should always carry.
No win situation for the poor guy! Does the right thing and he is rewarded by being beaten by a mob and of course robbed! Next he'll be fined for not signing up for Obamacare.
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I make an exception for black people like Wiggs, Parker, Lobstah, McWay, and several black people offline though.
Wiggs is black?
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Never in a million years would a mob of white people jump a black guy seconds after an accident like this, stomp the shit out of him, beat him to near death, and then rob him. Never in a million fucking years.
Disenfranchised my balls.
What about the lynchings that occurred regularly less than 100 years ago?
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1) Haha this made me laugh... wasn't expecting such a frank reply ;D
2) MCWAY is black?
Thanks bro, I'm probably not a bad person.
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Disenfranchised my balls.
We owe these people jobs and a life and we're not providing for them the way we should.
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What about the lynchings that occurred regularly less than 100 years ago?
And? Whats that have to do with how things are now? And they didn't occur regularly. Do you know how many people were lynched? I do, both white and black. Do you know why some of them were lynched? Do you know the total number of lynchings and how that compares to the total number of deaths of black men in Detroit over the last two decades? I do.
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What about the lynchings that occurred regularly less than 100 years ago?
Good point, that seems like an appropriate punishment for dragging a man out of a truck and brutally beating him.
Can't technically be a hate crime unless a white guy (or at least a Hispanic with a Jewish surname) is perpetrating it.
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We owe these people jobs and a life and we're not providing for them the way we should.
FINALLY someone gets it. Glad i got my point across
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What about the lynchings that occurred regularly less than 100 years ago?
What about black on black cannibalism 200 years ago?
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O lord, I'm being outnumbered
*drives away in prius to my gated community, averting eye contact with the hispanic landscapers*
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O lord, I'm being outnumbered
*drives away in prius to my gated community, averting eye contact with the hispanic landscapers*
rofl
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What about black on black cannibalism 200 years ago?
It's almost like every race does some fucked up things
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O lord, I'm being outnumbered
*drives away in prius to my gated community, averting eye contact with the hispanic landscapers*
while listening to NPR and hoping the giving to the NAACP will count for karma points if house invaded by disenfranchised African Americans
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It's almost like every race does some fucked up things
I think the Eskimos are atrocity free
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I just don't understand why in response to incidents like this its necessary to bring up event from a hundred years ago. Are they implying that this somehow justifies whats happened today?
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I think the Eskimos are atrocity free
Tell that to the fur seals.
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I just don't understand why in response to incidents like this its necessary to bring up event from a hundred years ago. Are they implying that this somehow justifies whats happened today?
Moses hated blacks....fact
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What about the lynchings that occurred regularly less than 100 years ago?
Please dude. This is the problem with race relations today. A lot of people are stuck in the past while the white dude from Detroit is living in the present. I've got news for these folks. The world can be harsh, there is no fucking excuses here. You got fucked over? Tough titty. There are plenty of people that got it just as bad if not worse. Move on.
People that use the past as justification for acting like an animal today can go get fucked.
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Moses hated blacks....fact
Moses was black.....fact
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I just don't understand why in response to incidents like this its necessary to bring up event from a hundred years ago. Are they implying that this somehow justifies whats happened today?
If that's what you got from my posts, than I must have expressed myself poorly. Their response to this accident is inexcusable. But when someone posts something like this:
Never in a million years would a mob of white people jump a black guy seconds after an accident like this, stomp the shit out of him, beat him to near death, and then rob him. Never in a million fucking years.
Its relevant to the discussion to bring up the lynchings that occurred not too long ago. Do you see why I mentioned them now?
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People that use the past as justification for acting like an animal today can go get fucked.
This
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If that's what you got from my posts, than I must have expressed myself poorly. Their response to this accident is inexcusable. But when someone posts something like this:
Its relevant to the discussion to bring up the lynchings that occurred not too long ago. Do you see why I mentioned them now?
Hes right though. In the present it would never happen.
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Hes right though. In the present it would never happen.
Perhaps in present-day America... but to act like any race of human would never ever do fucked-up things is disingenuous
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Perhaps in present-day America... but to act like any race of human would never ever do fucked-up things is disingenuous
I don't believe he was saying that.
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I don't believe he was saying that.
I may have misinterpreted the general spirit of this thread, but it seemed like "Pray4War" was saying exactly that.
Bottomline, I think that poverty--not skin color--begets criminality. Can we agree on that?
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I may have misinterpreted the general spirit of this thread, but it seemed like "Pray4War" was saying exactly that.
Bottomline, I think that poverty--not skin color--begets criminality. Can we agree on that?
Poverty breeds criminality and all races commit crime but the type of shit in the OP only seems to happen with chocolate faces. The majority are bitter, ignorant, angry, and looking for any excuse to rain down "street justice" on whitey. I should know because I've been hanging with black folks most of my life.
Most of them have admitted to me that they never experienced any serious discrimination at all in their lives. Several of these folks that I know have been given a lot of free shit over the years in the form of foods stamps, unemployment, subsidized housing, etc. However, that doesn't stop them from stomping around like they were Malcolm X and blacks are being put in concentration camps. Yeah, they mad and the truth doesn't much matter to them.
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If this happened in sweden and it was immigrants that jumped on one white male the newspapers would never say a word that it can be rascial motives. But if it was 3 white dudes that beat a random man that just happened to be black just for fun like the angry mob did ( they didnt give a shit about the boy they just wanted to habe a reason to attack and rob a white dude) the newspapers would be more then happy to label it as a hatecrime.
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Nah I'm a white male, everybody loves me....I just wonder why "Roger Bacon" doesn't just get straight to the point and make a thread titled "I hate blacks" instead of posting thinly-veiled racism
Why is that racist ???
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Why is that racist ???
Because he doesn't like it.
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Why is that racist ???
Because I don't like it
Edit: beaten >:(
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Because I don't like it
Edit: beaten >:(
I have to give you credit, you have a good sense of humor ;D
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I have to give you credit, you have a good sense of humor ;D
Agreed
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Really? You don't think whites are racist? I know what you're trying to say, but I think you could have worded that better.
Blacks are still disenfranchised, it's just something that is so widespread on an institutional/societal level that we don't even WANT TO notice it
fixed
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You're right.... not gonna change any minds here. I'm just sitting at a cafe and I'm bored so i figured what the hey
What the hell, no sane man would do such a thing.
You black or something???
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Really? You don't think whites are racist? I know what you're trying to say, but I think you could have worded that better.
Blacks are still disenfranchised, it's just something that is so widespread on an institutional/societal level that we don't even notice it
Oh brother. ::)
Another victim of the no child left behind policy.
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Moral of the story. If you hit a black kid while driving, keep going. ;D
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People, mostly liberals, will look for racism everywhere but within themselves. They claim to be victims and therefor exempt from their actions. The victims of their "righteous outbursts" simply deserved it because they are the oppressors and all because of the color (or lack thereof) of their skin. Or some such liberal tripe.
And yes, there is one race that has a lock on hatred. The human race. Until the punishment fits the crime and not the liberal ideal, this sort of crap will continue to happen.
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Bottomline, I think that poverty--not skin color--begets criminality. Can we agree on that?
Must be why the filthy rich are so moral.
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People, mostly liberals, will look for racism everywhere but within themselves. They claim to be victims and therefor exempt from their actions. The victims of their "righteous outbursts" simply deserved it because they are the oppressors and all because of the color (or lack thereof) of their skin. Or some such liberal tripe.
And yes, there is one race that has a lock on hatred. The human race. Until the punishment fits the crime and not the liberal ideal, this sort of crap will continue to happen.
Minorities are indoctrinated to believe they are incapable of racism and always the victim and never the victimizer. What results from such indoctrination is the inability to perceive their own hatred and prejudice. They can say, feel and act in the most despicable hurtful ways towards other races and not feel the least bit of guilt or empathy.
I may have misinterpreted the general spirit of this thread, but it seemed like "Pray4War" was saying exactly that.
Bottomline, I think that poverty--not skin color--begets criminality. Can we agree on that?
Poverty is relative. The poor in the United states live in relative comfort in comparison to the poor in the past and the poor in other parts of the world. Hell, many live better than the middle class a hundred years ago. Not all people in poverty are prone to criminality. I recently read an article about impoverished people from Appalachia. These are very poor people. Many don't have running water. The crime rates are very low.
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Minorities are indoctrinated to believe they incapable of racism and always the victim and never the victimizer. What results from such indoctrination is the inability to perceive their own hatred and prejudice. They can say, feel and act in the most despicable hurtful ways towards other races and not feel the least bit of guilt or empathy.
Poverty is relative. The poor in the United states live in relative comfort in comparison to the poor in the past and the poor in other parts of the world. Hell, many live better than the middle class a hundred years ago. Not all people in poverty are prone to criminality. I recently read an article about impoverished people from Appalachia. These are very poor people. Many don't have running water. The crime rates are very low.
Good post, summed up nicely.
My liberal friend (whose PMing me) is under the impression that someone with an education like yours wouldn't form such opinions.
For some reason he's arguing with me about white privilege in response to me posting this article... ;D
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Good post, summed up nicely.
My liberal friend (whose PMing me) is under the impression that someone with an education like yours wouldn't form such opinions.
I fucking hate this shit.
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Really? You don't think whites are racist? I know what you're trying to say, but I think you could have worded that better.
Blacks are still disenfranchised, it's just something that is so widespread on an institutional/societal level that we don't even notice it
oh the poor black man.... he is disenfranchised, he doesn't know any better he is not educated.. blah blah fucking blah so sick of making excuses for fucktards. Only blacks would behave in this barbaric way towards a loan white man. So tired of people saying they don't know better.... for most of thepanet blatant racism ended a long time ago. Im not interested in paying a price for what my ancestors did to your ancestors...... what a complete crock of shit. Whites were also the only reason blacks have the freedoms they do today.
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Good post, summed up nicely.
My liberal friend (whose PMing me) is under the impression that someone with an education like yours wouldn't form such opinions.
For some reason he's arguing with me about white privilege in response to me posting this article... ;D
White privilege is the new buzz word used by the left. It seems like the left is always scrambling to find a new excuse for failure. I dont know how to respond to your friend. I guess because I dont follow the liberal doctrine to the letter I have to be wrong.
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Of course.... I would say that centuries of systematic discrimination in America led to decreased opportunity for most blacks, compared to other races. Less opportunity means less money which tends to lead to more crime.
I don't think there's anything inherent to any race that would predispose them to crime...but I do think that any child born into poverty is far more likely to remain poor, commit crimes, and have more children born into poverty--perpetuating the cycle.
Of course, it is possible for ANYONE to overcome difficult circumstances...but it'll be that much more difficult to achieve success. And I think, proportionally, more blacks are born into difficult situations than are whites. Hence the disproportionate crime rates between races
Poverty, racism are not the problem.
I will be agree with you if these crime comitted by black ppl were just stealing food to eat, or stealing book to read. But here we"re speaking about horrible crime, home invasion with rape and murder, white ppl shooting for fun, white ppl beating for fun.
How a smart and honest ppl can imagine one second that these horrible crime are the consequence of poverty ?
They are the consequence of savagery.
There is something really wrong with a small percentage of the black population, and its not the fault of white ppl.
My wife is from cabo verde, the country is number 167 on the worldwide grading. And they 're descendant from slave. ppl are black and really poor. I spent 3 week in cabo verde each year, there is no racism, no criminality. never in my life i've heard a cabo verdian speaking about slavery.
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What we have to realize is that social theory isn't an objective science like mathematics. The conclusions are often just a matter of opinion filter through political bias. Disparate impact is a recent example. It was discovered that blacks are subject to more and harsher discipline in schools. The left automatically assumed, as they usually do, that racism was involved and started demanding equal punishment. However, when you actually look further it becomes clear this is absolutely false.
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What we have to realize is that social theory isn't an objective science like mathematics. The conclusions are often just a matter of opinion filter through political bias. Disparate impact is a recent example. It was discovered that blacks are subject to more and harsher discipline in schools. The left automatically assumed, as they usually do, that racism was involved and started demanding equal punishment. However, when you actually look further it becomes clear this is absolutely false.
Why do blacks receive harsher punishments then (for what is presumably the same offense)?
Btw you've been making very good posts in this thread
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Why do blacks receive harsher punishments then (for what is presumably the same offense)?
Btw you've been making very good posts in this thread
They had numerous prior infractions. On a side note, this is also true for incarceration rates. Another odd omission is that these kids who supposedly are suffering from racism attend primarily black schools with black teachers and administration.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0047235214000105
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Now ask yourself, why would they leave out the prior behavioral problems?
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They had numerous prior infractions. On a side note, this is also true for incarceration rates. Another odd omission is that these kids who supposedly are suffering from racism attend primarily black schools with black teachers and administration.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0047235214000105
Well that's not a fair comparison... your original statement made it seem like two students with similar histories who committed similar offenses would receive differing punishments based on skin color.
Of course a student with a longer history of misbehavior would receive a stiffer punishment.... that's a no-brainer
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Well that's not a fair comparison... your original statement made it seem like two students with similar histories who committed similar offenses would receive differing punishments based on skin color.
Of course a student with a longer history of misbehavior would receive a stiffer punishment.... that's a no-brainer
Thats how its been presented, in part. When you look at the details it becomes apparent thats not whats happening.
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Poverty, racism are not the problem.
I will be agree with you if these crime comitted by black ppl were just stealing food to eat, or stealing book to read. But here we"re speaking about horrible crime, home invasion with rape and murder, white ppl shooting for fun, white ppl beating for fun.
How a smart and honest ppl can imagine one second that these horrible crime are the consequence of poverty ?
They are the consequence of savagery.
There is something really wrong with a small percentage of the black population, and its not the fault of white ppl.
My wife is from cabo verde, the country is number 167 on the worldwide grading. And they 're descendant from slave. ppl are black and really poor. I spent 3 week in cabo verde each year, there is no racism, no criminality. never in my life i've heard a cabo verdian speaking about slavery.
Shit, there's a grading system?
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Thats how its been presented, in part. When you look at the details it becomes apparent thats not whats happening.
In your opinion, what is the root cause(s) of the difference in delinquency between white and black youth?
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The worst part is that he has no teeth left but he's now receiving past due notices from the dentist.
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The worst part is that he has no teeth left but he's now receiving past due notices from the dentist.
lol
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Feeding the getbig beast....
White Man Beaten By Mob In Detroit After Hitting Boy With Truck: Was It A Hate Crime?
April 4, 2014 6:55 AM
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A man who struck a boy with his pickup truck was beaten by a crowd near this corner gas station, police said. (Credit: Mike Campbell/WWJ Newsradio 950)
DETROIT (WWJ) - As a 54-year-old Roseville man clings to life in the hospital following a brutal mob beating on Detroit’s east side, many are starting to wonder if the whole thing was racially motivated.
As first reported by WWJ Newsradio 950, an 11-year-old boy suffered a broken leg on Wednesday when he was hit by a pickup truck after walking into the street near Morang and Balfour. The driver, Steven Utash, immediately got out of his truck after hitting the boy and was viciously attacked by 10 to 12 men. The beating was so brutal, Utash was rendered unconscious.
Utash’s son Joseph told WWJ’s Gary Lundy Thursday night that his father remains in a medically induced coma, nearly unrecognizable due to his injuries. He also said his wallet was stolen from his truck.
“If it went on any longer, my dad wouldn’t be in the hospital right now, he would be in the morgue. The way he looked, I am surprised that he is alive,” he said. “He has bruising over his face, his eyes are swollen, I believe it’s his left eye that is completely swollen shut. He also has a big, huge knot on his forehead like he got hit with an object, not a fist.”
Joseph Utash said he was working with his father in Detroit just hours before the attack. Both of the men are tree-trimmers, working in the city for years now.
“I came home from work and it was on the news, my dad’s pickup truck, and I was just like ‘Oh my god.’ Then I heard that he hit a kid and I was like freaking out that my dad hit a kid. And then I heard that bystanders just beat him up and I just, I called my mom immediately,” he said. ”From what I’m hearing is he tried to fight back, but trying to fight back against 11 people fighting you, that’s 22 fists coming at you at once, you can’t really do much.”
Detroit Police Sgt. Michael Woody said Steven Utash was not at fault for the accident.
“Our preliminary investigation shows the child stepped in front of his vehicle,” Woody said. “He did exactly the right thing. He stopped his vehicle, he got out and he tried to render aid to a small child. He did exactly what he was supposed to do… It was a small child and it was an accident; is what it was.”
State Rep. Alberta Tinsley Talabi (D-Detroit), told WWJ Legal Analyst Charlie Langton the incident appears to have racial overtones, adding, “it’s wrong.”
Joseph Utash said although it was tough to stomach, he watched video of the incident.
“It shows the kid, he was standing on the curb with his dad and as my dad’s truck was coming down the street, the kid stepped right in front of my dad’s truck. My dad had absolutely not one chance in the world to try to swerve out-of-the-way or stop,” he said. “He got out of the car to check on the kid and before he even got up to the kid, he got assaulted by 11, 12 people. They jumped all over him and beat him up. While they were jumping him, somebody else jumped in the truck and stole his belongings. They took his wallet, his cellphone, everything out of his truck.”
Sgt. Woody said the gas station at the corner where the accident happened is a popular neighborhood gathering place, so it was no surprise that there were 20 or 30 people at the scene of the attack.
“It didn’t take very long for people to converge on the area when they saw the accident take place,” Woody said. “When the child was struck, he was in a lot of pain, there was screaming and crying. He was terrified, I’m sure, and I think that’s what drew the attention of the people in the immediate area.”
One woman stepped in to help Steven Utash. Nurse Debra Hughes intervened and stopped the attack: “He was already down, bleeding from the mouth and the nose – so there wasn’t nothing else they could do to him but kill him,” she said.
“Then EMS came and I kept him calm, I kept his hands down and everything so he could be comfortable,” said Hughes. “He had the biggest gash on his head I ever seen – he was bleeding from the mouth and he was unconscious when I first got there … being a registered nurse, I thought I could go out and help him.”
Joseph Utash said he believes his father was intentionally targeted or even worse, that skin color might have played a role. Based on witness accounts, the attackers were African American.
“I’ve talked to one Detroit police officer and I think that, personally in my own heart, I think it was all a setup from the gate,” he said, ”meaning that my dad’s been driving up and down Morang for 15, 16 years working for the same company and they know he has a job, they know he has money and they robbed him. You know, he had a bag with all his stuff in it. He showed me that he had all this money in his wallet that morning, telling me he just took the money out of the bank so he could pay his dentist.
“As far as a hate crime, it might be,” he said. “You know, it’s like you go in Detroit and you’re white, you don’t belong. Seriously. I’ve been pulled over by police before and they’re like ‘Get back across 8 Mile,’ like I’m not supposed to be over there, like I’m not allowed to go in Detroit.”
Police declined to say if investigators thought the attack was racially charged.
The boy, David Harris, is expected to recover from his injuries, according to his uncle, Desmond Key. No arrests have been made in the beating, but the boy’s father was taken into custody, on an unrelated warrant.
“At this point, based on [the pickup driver's] condition, there’s some pretty serious charges that we’re looking at,” Sgt. Woody said.
Police are hoping the public can help investigators find those responsible for the beating.
Anyone who witnessed the attack, can identify the assailants, or who has any information about this case is urged to call Detroit police at 313-596-1616. Tips can be made anonymously to Crime Stoppers at 1-800-SPEAK-UP.
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This happen in Louisiana when a black man hit a black girl a few years back. COMPLETE FUCKING WASTE OF THREAD SPACE!
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In your opinion, what is the root cause(s) of the difference in delinquency between white and black youth?
C'mon, dude. You're familiar with the culture. It doesn't take a sociologist.
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If a black guy hit a white kid and was beaten up by a mob of whites it would be the first story on nation wide news for months. Papers would carry 3 or 5 different articles about it. There would be marches and possible rioting.
Just like when Martin in Florida was killed. From the time he was killed to the conclusion of the trial hundreds of young black men were murdered by other black men and there was no nation wide news coverage.
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Shit, there's a grading system?
yes it's the "idh" in french = indice of human devellopment.
Actually cap verde is 137 on 187.
if cap verde is 137 i can't imagine how are the last country...
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If a black guy hit a white kid and was beaten up by a mob of whites it would be the first story on nation wide news for months. Papers would carry 3 or 5 different articles about it. There would be marches and possible rioting.
Just like when Martin in Florida was killed. From the time he was killed to the conclusion of the trial hundreds of young black men were murdered by other black men and there was no nation wide news coverage.
= a 3 hours film by spielberg.
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Number of n*ggas held accountable in this story: zero.
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We should start crop dusting Detroit with some kind of sterilization chemicals. That ought to solve the problem.
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In your opinion, what is the root cause(s) of the difference in delinquency between white and black youth?
Brother, that's complicated. There are a myriad of factors coalescing.
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Brother, that's complicated. There are a myriad of factors coalescing.
If you wouldnt mind posting 4-5 in bulletpoint fashion, that would be cool. I can tell you've done your research and are fairly knowledgeable, so I'd be interested to hear what you have to say
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If you wouldnt mind posting 4-5 in bulletpoint fashion, that would be cool. I can tell you've done your research and are fairly knowledgeable, so I'd be interested to hear what you have to say
Funny thing, I saw your post and have been thinking about the best way to respond. I can do as you request. Let me try to organize a concise response.
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Of course.... I would say that centuries of systematic discrimination in America led to decreased opportunity for most blacks, compared to other races. Less opportunity means less money which tends to lead to more crime.
I don't think there's anything inherent to any race that would predispose them to crime...but I do think that any child born into poverty is far more likely to remain poor, commit crimes, and have more children born into poverty--perpetuating the cycle.
Of course, it is possible for ANYONE to overcome difficult circumstances...but it'll be that much more difficult to achieve success. And I think, proportionally, more blacks are born into difficult situations than are whites. Hence the disproportionate crime rates between races
Yes because blacks in other countries of the world, that are governed by blacks, are so rich and affluent.
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And he posted it because it's never called a hate crime when this shit happens; the press steers clear and you'll never hear a word from Obama. If a white mob did this it would be all over the news and Sharpton and Jackson would be holding press conferences.
Ka Ching!
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We should start crop dusting Detroit with some kind of sterilization chemicals. That ought to solve the problem.
Good idea.
Let's make certain the chemicals destroy the white trash as well. ;)
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Nah I'm a white male, everybody loves me....I just wonder why "Roger Bacon" doesn't just get straight to the point and make a thread titled "I hate blacks" instead of posting thinly-veiled racism
You seem like a real tosser. And you don't seem bright enough to have a discussion with.
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Good idea.
Let's make certain the chemicals destroy the white trash as well. ;)
The chemical for white trash already exists, its called meth.
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The chemical for white trash already exists, its called meth.
Solid ;D
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here again.......I ask......whatever happen to one on one????
how tough and brave are you when it is several people fighting one guy????
cowards......period...pa ragraph.......hopefully these cowards will be apprehended and locked up forever.......throw the fucking key away!!!
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The thing is, when white on black racism was strong in America years ago.....it was wrong because the reasons for it were based on ignorance. More and more though, blacks are giving whites good reason to be racist.
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FINALLY someone gets it. Glad i got my point across
im white out of work wheres my job? get real man we owe the blacks nothing!
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im white out of work wheres my job? get real man we owe the blacks nothing!
No white or asian person could possibly be poor or oppressed? ???
Only African Americans, Hispanics, and Muslims are justified in beating and raping innocent people.
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Only African Americans, Hispanics, and Muslims are justified in beating and raping innocent people.
Let's lock them up in a big cell with our politicians :)
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= a 3 hours film by spielberg.
Spielberg is the typical bitter Hebrew, hating on white man at every opportunity for ruining his game. It really is that simple.
You see, Hebrews put themselves as gods chosen in their own religion. It worked for a long time. But religion was in time conclusively demolished by white scientist and the secular culture they started in Europe. Thanks to this, religion is now permanently rooted as but a wisecrack absurdity that it really is.
And it can't be stopped. This secular culture is now gaining ground world wide, in Israel, Africa, Asia, Middle East these factions are all losing their religious influences over people.
So you see, white man ruined their game forever, and the game of all trash buffooneries that is religious extremists. No religious faction will ever be able to wield power like that again. Hebrews hope to ever rule as "gods chosen" was wiped out.
Power hungry intellectual Hebrews are especially bitter for this.
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Ever heard of the catholic church? Perhaps you should look into the power they now currently wield. Imbecile...
They wield jack shit.
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Ever heard of the catholic church? Perhaps you should look into the power they now currently wield. Imbecile...
Yeah yeah, tell me all about the Jesuits....
cock head ::)
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They wield jack shit.
That goes to show how little you really know...
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That goes to show how little you really know...
That's possible. But to me they have no real power and a lot of cultural traditions today they only symbolically influence. You could say they still have a monopoly to some extent on birth, death, cultural holidays, the Gregorian calendar etc. But that's only symbolically used and remains because of practicalities.
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That's possible. But to me they have no real power and a lot of cultural traditions today they only symbolically influence. You could say they still have a monopoly to some extent on birth, death, cultural holidays, the Gregorian calendar etc. But that's only symbolically used and remains because of practicalities.
The catholic church is the biggest financial power, wealth accumulater and property owner in existence.
They posess more material wealth than any bank, corperation, giant trust or goverment anywhere on the globe.
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The pistol-toting 'Angel of Mercy' that saved a driver from an angry Detroit mob
Posted: Apr 08, 2014 6:25 PM EDT Updated: Apr 08, 2014 6:51 PM EDT
By The Americans with Charlie LeDuff - email
(http://wjbk.images.worldnow.com/images/3477963_G.jpg)
DETROIT (WJBK) - Almost one week has passed since the brutal attack of a driver in Detroit who stopped to help a little boy he had accidentally just hit with his car.
In a bankrupt city with too few police, authorities are working fast to bring justice. Three people have been charged with assault - two adults and one teenager. A second teenager is in custody awaiting charges.
Police are still seeking several others to answer for the crime the city's mayor has called "senseless".
As many as 10 - 12 people are believed to have participated in the beating while dozens of others stood by and watched - saying nothing, doing nothing.
Except one.
Deborah Hughes lives across the street. The retired nurse may have saved the life of that driver, Steve Utash. She broke up the angry mob that was beating him. Detroit Police Chief James Craig knocked on the woman's door and personally called her a "Detroit hero."
http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/25196717/the-pistol-toting-angel-of-mercy-that-saved-a-driver-from-an-angry-detroit-mob
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The pistol-toting 'Angel of Mercy' that saved a driver from an angry Detroit mob
Posted: Apr 08, 2014 6:25 PM EDT Updated: Apr 08, 2014 6:51 PM EDT
By The Americans with Charlie LeDuff - email
(http://wjbk.images.worldnow.com/images/3477963_G.jpg)
DETROIT (WJBK) - Almost one week has passed since the brutal attack of a driver in Detroit who stopped to help a little boy he had accidentally just hit with his car.
In a bankrupt city with too few police, authorities are working fast to bring justice. Three people have been charged with assault - two adults and one teenager. A second teenager is in custody awaiting charges.
Police are still seeking several others to answer for the crime the city's mayor has called "senseless".
As many as 10 - 12 people are believed to have participated in the beating while dozens of others stood by and watched - saying nothing, doing nothing.
Except one.
Deborah Hughes lives across the street. The retired nurse may have saved the life of that driver, Steve Utash. She broke up the angry mob that was beating him. Detroit Police Chief James Craig knocked on the woman's door and personally called her a "Detroit hero."
http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/25196717/the-pistol-toting-angel-of-mercy-that-saved-a-driver-from-an-angry-detroit-mob
She would have been a bigger hero if she had opened fire.
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The pistol-toting 'Angel of Mercy' that saved a driver from an angry Detroit mob
Posted: Apr 08, 2014 6:25 PM EDT Updated: Apr 08, 2014 6:51 PM EDT
By The Americans with Charlie LeDuff - email
(http://wjbk.images.worldnow.com/images/3477963_G.jpg)
DETROIT (WJBK) - Almost one week has passed since the brutal attack of a driver in Detroit who stopped to help a little boy he had accidentally just hit with his car.
In a bankrupt city with too few police, authorities are working fast to bring justice. Three people have been charged with assault - two adults and one teenager. A second teenager is in custody awaiting charges.
Police are still seeking several others to answer for the crime the city's mayor has called "senseless".
As many as 10 - 12 people are believed to have participated in the beating while dozens of others stood by and watched - saying nothing, doing nothing.
Except one.
Deborah Hughes lives across the street. The retired nurse may have saved the life of that driver, Steve Utash. She broke up the angry mob that was beating him. Detroit Police Chief James Craig knocked on the woman's door and personally called her a "Detroit hero."
http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/25196717/the-pistol-toting-angel-of-mercy-that-saved-a-driver-from-an-angry-detroit-mob
God bless Whoopi Goldberg....
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If a black guy hit a white kid and was beaten up by a mob of whites it would be the first story on nation wide news for months. Papers would carry 3 or 5 different articles about it. There would be marches and possible rioting.
Just like when Martin in Florida was killed. From the time he was killed to the conclusion of the trial hundreds of young black men were murdered by other black men and there was no nation wide news coverage.
Perfect summary
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Yes because blacks in other countries of the world, that are governed by blacks, are so rich and affluent.
Haha brutal owning
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She would have been a bigger hero if she had opened fire.
Yeah, but then she might have had to go through the shit they put Zimmerman through. I wouldn't want to face a Jury of Detroiters.