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Title: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: Roger Bacon on April 07, 2014, 04:50:35 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: _bruce_ on April 07, 2014, 05:10:28 PM
More shit in this discussion than in my bowels.
Rasta is the perfect example of what's wrong with this - an entitled, aggressive asshole.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: Roger Bacon on April 07, 2014, 05:13:39 PM
More shit in this discussion than in my bowels.
Rasta is the perfect example of what's wrong with this - an entitled, aggressive asshole.


As I understand it, UKIP has gone juggernaut though. The Euro awakening is pretty interesting.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: Lustral on April 07, 2014, 05:13:50 PM
I would never, NEVER, normally watch a 15 min yt vid posted but fuck me.

First off the neegul with dreads should be deported on the spot. Poet? Fuck off he can't string two coherent word together and uses appalling logic to make his point. Women got the vote by breaking the law? No, they got the vote by highlighting the absurdity of not being able to vote. Mumsnet proves the whole thing was a joke anyway.

Second, the Iranians speaking of voting and rights. Fuck sake. Iranians? Please, I'm Irish but the whole Bobby Sands Street thing is a joke. Nation of fucking trolls. If they believe in free speech why beat abd subdue protesting students?

Thanks Roger, first time I've watched a 15 min yt vid that wasn't music.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: Roger Bacon on April 07, 2014, 05:14:43 PM
BRB... Joining an all white panel in Dubai to discuss Arab identity.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: Roger Bacon on April 07, 2014, 05:16:25 PM
Thanks Roger, first time I've watched a 15 min yt vid that wasn't music.

Glad you were interested, hope it didn't depress you too much!!
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: Rosicrucian on April 07, 2014, 05:20:17 PM
Just got back from the brothel. now projectile vomiting starts WTF?
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: Roger Bacon on April 07, 2014, 05:24:23 PM
Just got back from the brothel. no projectile vomiting starts WTF?

R u a real Rose Crux ???
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: Rosicrucian on April 07, 2014, 05:26:26 PM
R u a real Rose Crux ???
yes
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: Roger Bacon on April 07, 2014, 05:32:17 PM
yes

Cool  8)
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: Lustral on April 07, 2014, 05:36:47 PM
I do so many sunbeds and have a Brazilian gf but this shit sickens me. Whites made feel guilty at every turn. Fuck sake. So angry (and drunk - come at me Muslims) that I won't vent much further. Had a gf from Bradistan once, such a horrible place, such horrible people. It immediately struck me how wrong the whole assimilation experiment was in England. Screw over working class people while middle class people tut tut that why're so intolerant. I'm from a very wealthy family and I was disgusted.

The Muslims there were mostly pimps, drug dealers and welfare cheats. They came to England then criticise all aspects of its political and economic system. Stay in Pakistan then and shout from there. Unbelievable that these rejects are given a voice,,,
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: Shockwave on April 07, 2014, 05:43:36 PM
Either assimilate and adapt your religion and culture into your new country, or GTFO. If you dont agree with the ideals or culture of thr country youre moving to why the fuck move there? Id never move to the kingdom of Saud because I disagree whole heartedly with their culture.

oh, I forgot, theyre moving there for free shit and to leech off the government while demanding that everyone cater and bend over backwards for their beliefs.

Fuck them. Kill the worthless fucks.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: Roger Bacon on April 07, 2014, 05:45:35 PM
Bradistan

That must be where our friend Bradistani the liberal Muslim is from.  ;D

The whole situation is truly sickening though, like you said. Inhumane and undemocratic
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: Roger Bacon on April 07, 2014, 05:49:47 PM
Either assimilate and adapt your religion and culture into your new country, or GTFO. If you dont agree with the ideals or culture of thr country youre moving to why the fuck move there? Id never move to the kingdom of Saud because I disagree whole heartedly with their culture.

oh, I forgot, theyre moving there for free shit and to leech off the government while demanding that everyone cater and bend over backwards for their beliefs.

Fuck them. Kill the worthless fucks.

Sorry to be the dick head that keeps posting this shit... lol

Whenever I come across it I want to share the insanity for some reason.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: James28 on April 07, 2014, 06:02:22 PM
I do so many sunbeds and have a Brazilian gf but this shit sickens me. Whites made feel guilty at every turn. Fuck sake. So angry (and drunk - come at me Muslims) that I won't vent much further. Had a gf from Bradistan once, such a horrible place, such horrible people. It immediately struck me how wrong the whole assimilation experiment was in England. Screw over working class people while middle class people tut tut that why're so intolerant. I'm from a very wealthy family and I was disgusted.

The Muslims there were mostly pimps, drug dealers and welfare cheats. They came to England then criticise all aspects of its political and economic system. Stay in Pakistan then and shout from there. Unbelievable that these rejects are given a voice,,,

SMM, great to see you back in the reincarnation of a British person bro. Hope you stay around longer this time

Btw,

Lions > Gorillas

 :D
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: Archer77 on April 07, 2014, 06:07:26 PM
It's bizarre that any immigrant would feel they have the right to demand the culture they voluntarily became a part of change to accommodate them. The sense of entitlement is beyond ridiculous.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: Mawse on April 07, 2014, 06:11:56 PM
It's ok, we'll have the same discussion in the US in a few years, just it'll be in Spanish.

Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: Fortress on April 07, 2014, 06:19:31 PM
It's bizarre that any immigrant would feel they have the right to demand the culture they voluntarily became a part of change to accommodate them. The sense of entitlement is beyond ridiculous.

It boggles the mind, yes.

This shit is going to heat and heat until it reaches a boiling point.

The UK WILL be reclaimed, at some point in time. As will all the other non-Muslim nations currently being deteriorated by their filthy ways and beliefs.

But it's gonna get a lot worse before it ever gets better.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: Shockwave on April 07, 2014, 06:28:16 PM
It boggles the mind, yes.

This shit is going to heat and heat until it reaches a boiling point.

The UK WILL be reclaimed, at some point in time. As will all the other non-Muslim nations currently being deteriorated by their filthy ways and beliefs.

But it's gonna get a lot worse before it ever gets better.
once whitey engages the killswitch, its over. They seem to forget that war, conquest, and extermination is what whitey has historically been best at.

I dont think theyll be happy when they push whitey over the line.

the dude abides.

whitey smashes, maimes, and destroys.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: Archer77 on April 07, 2014, 06:42:18 PM
It boggles the mind, yes.

This shit is going to heat and heat until it reaches a boiling point.

The UK WILL be reclaimed, at some point in time. As will all the other non-Muslim nations currently being deteriorated by their filthy ways and beliefs.

But it's gonna get a lot worse before it ever gets better.

It demonstrates a complete disrespect and utter disregard for the native culture. 
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: Parker on April 07, 2014, 06:57:26 PM
It demonstrates a complete disrespect and utter disregard for the native culture. 
Which could be said that the British had for the lands it colonized...the lands these people may be from.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: Roger Bacon on April 07, 2014, 07:48:20 PM
Which could be said that the British had for the lands it colonized...the lands these people may be from.

The funny thing is, the current situation is clearly self inflicted.

Europeans, just like every other civilization waged war for resources and land. That's what humans do. They don't owe anyone an apology.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on April 07, 2014, 08:03:24 PM
It demonstrates a complete disrespect and utter disregard for the native culture. 

Kinda like what we did with the natives in America..... Or does that not count because it was too long ago?
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: SF1900 on April 07, 2014, 08:07:31 PM
Kinda like what we did with the natives in America..... Or does that not count because it was too long ago?


Yeah, we will really fucked the native americans. They just wanted to live peacefully and still do.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: Roger Bacon on April 07, 2014, 08:57:39 PM
They just wanted to live peacefully

Yes, they didn't do the same thing to neighboring tribes that early Americans did to them.

 :-X
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on April 07, 2014, 09:11:39 PM
Yes, they didn't do the same thing to neighboring tribes that early Americans did to them.

 :-X

Your thread is about demonstrating "a complete disrespect and utter disregard for the native culture", as Archer put it, is it not? 

If it is, well I would say British colonists are as guilty of that as anyone.  Would you disagree?
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: Roger Bacon on April 07, 2014, 09:32:41 PM
Your thread is about demonstrating "a complete disrespect and utter disregard for the native culture", as Archer put it, is it not?  

If it is, well I would say British colonists are as guilty of that as anyone.  Would you disagree?

We're inviting such behavior when we have the ability to prevent it.

I can't really blame impoverished and uneducated third world citizens for coming to the west. I'm not sure anyone in this thread is actually blaming them for simply being who they are.

Like I said earlier, this is self inflicted
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: The Ugly on April 07, 2014, 09:34:20 PM
"Culture" has become my least favorite word in the English language; its context always implies non-white. As if culture is somehow dictated by pigmentation.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: FermiDirac on April 07, 2014, 10:01:16 PM
"Professor" of "Poetry"

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Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: honest on April 07, 2014, 10:06:35 PM
Funny our grandfathers fought and died for us in war, not for them to come to our lands and dictate to us how we should treat them and feed them through taxes, makes me sick glad we emigrated from the shythole,
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: Archer77 on April 08, 2014, 01:29:09 AM
Kinda like what we did with the natives in America..... Or does that not count because it was too long ago?

I didnt personally do anything to anyone. As far as your question is concerned, if it was so wrong and harmful, the groups most effected(minorities) should know better than anyone  else that what they are doing is wrong. But they have as little regard for other cultures as their supposed oppressors once did.  
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: Parker on April 08, 2014, 01:38:53 AM
I didnt personally do anything to anyone. As far as your question is concerned, if it was so wrong and harmful, the groups most effected(minorities) should know better than anyone  else that what they are doing is wrong. But they have as little regard for other cultures as their supposed oppressors once did.  
The bullied become the bullies. The oppressed become the oppressors.
It's a script that has been played out since antiquity.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: Archer77 on April 08, 2014, 01:40:14 AM
The bullied become the bullies. The oppressed become the oppressors.
It's a script that has been played out since antiquity.

Brought the wisdom again! You're a smart man, Parker.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: Parker on April 08, 2014, 02:39:54 AM
Brought the wisdom again! You're a smart man, Parker.
thanks, we are all merely actors..
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: James28 on April 08, 2014, 02:45:49 AM
We're inviting such behavior when we have the ability to prevent it.

I can't really blame impoverished and uneducated third world citizens for coming to the west. I'm not sure anyone in this thread is actually blaming them for simply being who they are.

Like I said earlier, this is self inflicted

Unfortunately who they are aren't compatable with Western 'culture'. They can rarely be 'better'. They leave corrupt impoverished holes to migrate to their host country and turn neighbourhoods into ... corrupt and impoverished holes. They can only be what they are born to be. My usual vitriol aside, it's hard to blame those that don't know any better.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: Archer77 on April 08, 2014, 02:48:46 AM
thanks, we are all merely actors..


Im not being hyperbolic, you are literally right on the money.  The cycle happens over and over again and no one learns a thing or very little. 
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: Shockwave on April 08, 2014, 03:07:10 AM


Yeah, we will really fucked the native americans. They just wanted to live peacefully and still do.
lol, im assuming this was sarcasm
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: Archer77 on April 08, 2014, 03:18:35 AM
Lets be specific, minority cultures should never be suppressed for their beliefs unless that is their beliefs come in direct conflict with the societal norms and rule of law of the native culture.   For example, human rights violations such as the subjugation of women that is common practice in certain cultures.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: irishdave on April 08, 2014, 03:41:02 AM
Shoot them all and don't stop until there's not one of those dirty little rats left
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: falco on April 08, 2014, 03:42:05 AM
When an english gentleman goes to arab country he must embrace their ways otherwise he is punished by the locals.
When an arab goes to england, englishmen must bow to the arab's fundamentalist ways otherwise is racism/discrimination.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: irishdave on April 08, 2014, 03:45:47 AM
Archer and james28 speaking truths in this thread - run for politics lads
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on April 08, 2014, 03:52:42 AM
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I didnt personally do anything to anyone. As far as your question is concerned, if it was so wrong and harmful, the groups most effected(minorities) should know better than anyone  else that what they are doing is wrong. But they have as little regard for other cultures as their supposed oppressors once did.  

We (as in Americans--you are American, no?) wiped out the culture of the natives here using smallpox-infected blankets, superior weaponry, horses, etc.  Essentially genocide.

I dont see how the small-scale immigration going on in England is comparable to that.

Lets be specific, minority cultures should never be suppressed for their beliefs unless that is their beliefs come in direct conflict with the societal norms and rule of law of the native culture.   For example, human rights violations such as the subjugation of women that is common practice in certain cultures.

Good post
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: _bruce_ on April 08, 2014, 03:58:45 AM
It's bizarre that any immigrant would feel they have the right to demand the culture they voluntarily became a part of change to accommodate them. The sense of entitlement is beyond ridiculous.

They're mostly low lives + they get told to be "dominant and demanding". Add to that big families, state sponsorship, feminism, cultural marxism, Icelam and a disembodied white male.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: Melkor on April 08, 2014, 04:00:21 AM
It's bizarre that any immigrant would feel they have the right to demand the culture they voluntarily became a part of change to accommodate them. The sense of entitlement is beyond ridiculous.

This is the key point for me. Immigrants arrive into a settled culture, with its own unique traditions and social norms. These immigrants differ in their lifestyle and culture yet expect their new hosts to change and adapt to their way of life. If such states of "multiculturism" are not meet, then accusations of prejudice and rascism are thrown about. And lets be fair - most nations in Europe have adapted and changed to accommodate their new immigrants to some extent.

If the roles are reversed however and somebody from "the west" entered their culture, do you think they would change their ways to accommodate their immigrants?
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: Archer77 on April 08, 2014, 04:04:27 AM
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We (as in Americans--you are American, no?) wiped out the culture of the natives here using smallpox-infected blankets, superior weaponry, horses, etc.  Essentially genocide.

I dont see how the small-scale immigration going on in England is comparable to that.

Good post

People of my color commit crimes everyday.  Should I be held accountable for their actions?  I feel no responsibility for their actions because I neither committed those acts or was there to prevent them.  

Even if I were to accept that my "race" is somehow culpable for genocide does that somehow forfeit the right of my culture to be respected?  We must ask ourselves is respect for established cultures universally true and right or just true for certain people and groups?

The problem with immigration in Europe is that these immigrants are refusing to assimilate and are a tremendous economic burden on the countries they immigrate to.  This causes unnecessary cultural and financial instability on these countries.  

By the way, I'm enjoying our discourse.   Im glad we can keep it civil.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: irishdave on April 08, 2014, 04:06:44 AM
This is the key point for me. Immigrants arrive into a settled culture, with its own unique traditions and social norms. These immigrants differ in their lifestyle and culture yet expect their new hosts to change and adapt to their way of life. If such states of "multiculturism" are not meet, then accusations of prejudice and rascism are thrown about. And lets be fair - most nations in Europe have adapted and changed to accommodate their new immigrants to some extent.

If the roles are reversed however and somebody from "the west" entered their culture, do you think they would change their ways to accommodate their immigrants?



Not certainly not! Probably be beheaded for stepping out of line.

Did you notice how many blacks seem to join forces with their Muslim brothers? It's been proven that their small brains leaves them more open to brainwashing. It also gives them a sense of "belonging" as they also hate the white man. White power!
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: Melkor on April 08, 2014, 04:17:50 AM
Your thread is about demonstrating "a complete disrespect and utter disregard for the native culture", as Archer put it, is it not? 

If it is, well I would say British colonists are as guilty of that as anyone.  Would you disagree?

This is a very good point that we must not forget. And in my opinion it is part of why Europe as a whole (it wasn't just the British who colonised and suppressed foreign cultures) is very "welcoming" of immigrants from regions of Africa, Middle East and Asia.

But I think that these immigrants are being welcomed quite well - they have work available for them and often social welfare and state benefits. If immigrants come to a country to escape poverty, war or are looking for new opportunities and they are willing to work and play their part (i.e. not receive multiple state welfare benefits) then I have no problem with that. And if they want to bring aspects of their culture with them I am also fine with that, as long as they integrate it in a non-obtrusive manner. Things like food, music, religious venues or whatever - I have no problem with these as they do not directly affect me.

The problem arise when immigrants (particularly those with strong religious beliefs and fundamentalism driving aspects of their culture) try to impose their cultural norms on their hosts. This should not be accepted and is where the real problem lie.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: dr.chimps on April 08, 2014, 04:28:25 AM
The bullied become the bullies. The oppressed become the oppressors.
It's a script that has been played out since antiquity.
Yup. And the migrants raise %30 more (taxes, etc.) than they take in (pogie, etc.) so this is again more 'immigrant noise.' Just locals who can't get along pissing on those who they think are lower on the ladder.  ::)
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: Archer77 on April 08, 2014, 04:29:22 AM
Yup. And the migrants raise %30 more (taxes, etc.) than they take in (pogie, etc.) so this is again more 'immigrant noise.' Just locals who can't get along pissing on those who they think are lower on the ladder.  ::)

Ive read contrary information on this point.   
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: dr.chimps on April 08, 2014, 04:31:30 AM
Ive read contrary information on this point.   
Get off the ladder.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: Archer77 on April 08, 2014, 04:34:46 AM
Get off the ladder.

Come on now.   Lets keep this civil.  Im looking to be educated
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: forillagorilla on April 08, 2014, 04:37:04 AM
yes

Fidei Defensor !
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: dr.chimps on April 08, 2014, 04:38:57 AM
Come on now.   Lets keep this civil.  Im looking to be educated
See: The Economist. If memory serves, they addressed this point in the last 3-4 months, and the figure may be 33%. Britain has always done the immigrant hate thing, and it will always be fed by immigrants. Get over it. Nothing new, here.

Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: Archer77 on April 08, 2014, 04:41:24 AM
See: The Economist. If memory serves, they addressed this point in the last 3-4 months, and the figure may be 33%. Britain has always done the immigrant hate thing, and it will always be fed by immigrants. Get over it. Nothing new, here.



Lets discuss the nuances of the issue.  No need for hand waving.   Broaden my horizons instead of being dismissive.   
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 08, 2014, 04:41:49 AM
Russia is willing to help out with the matter.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: dr.chimps on April 08, 2014, 04:45:41 AM
Russia is willing to help out with the matter.
Russia has never helped anyone but herself. Kunt.   ;D
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 08, 2014, 04:48:09 AM
Russia has never helped anyone but herself. Kunt.   ;D
;D
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: oldgolds on April 10, 2014, 07:55:50 AM
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We (as in Americans--you are American, no?) wiped out the culture of the natives here using smallpox-infected blankets, superior weaponry, horses, etc.  Essentially genocide.

I dont see how the small-scale immigration going on in England is comparable to that.  Bullshit, you don't know your history. The "smallpox infested blankets" thing is false and not accepted by any mainstream historian. America didn't engage in genocide against the natives. Genocide is trying to exterminate a race. The program was to put them on reservations and teach them to be productive and self sufficient. The Indians were a savage, warlike culture and preyed upon their neighbors in probably a more viscious manner than did the White Man.

Good post
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: Roger Bacon on April 10, 2014, 09:17:33 AM
warlike culture and preyed upon their neighbors in probably a more viscious manner than did the White Man


War and domination of other cultures is perfectly acceptable until the white man gets in on it for some reason.  :-\
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: Skorp1o on April 10, 2014, 09:24:37 AM
I love these debates, people trying to put the root cause of an issue on a specific group of society.

Truth of the matter is, humans as a whole have always been the problem and the solution.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: _bruce_ on April 10, 2014, 09:26:23 AM
Russia is willing to help out with the matter.

Forget them and Putin - some of Putin's opinions and maybe politics are better than "our" current ones but it's a trap.
Russia is the hot tranny in the cultural battlefield.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism - Panel Dictating British Identity
Post by: Roger Bacon on April 10, 2014, 09:30:08 AM
Russia is the hot tranny in the cultural battlefield.

That is fucking golden!!!!!!! Sums it up perfectly!!!!

 ;D