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Title: Boxing poor for self defense when you factor in age
Post by: Submissionfytr on April 09, 2014, 12:05:44 AM
Stumbled on this video that's apparently 4-5 years old, but just reinforced my opinion (mine, not claiming an undisputed fact!-) of Floyd Mayweather Sr. sparring with a clearly untrained, not very conditioned, similar sized individual who is about 20 or so years younger (and purely white, wigger, street trash).  I'll link video at bottom, but summary is Mayweather while trying to use his amazing defensive skills to set up the young fool with a one punch knock out right hand. After 2 minutes he still can't land a clean shot once, and while his defense is amazing and beautiful normally, he seems to be struggling with the timing of the untrained guy's sloppy haymakers. (He gets sucker punched and guy gets jumped in the end which is actually better than the entire sparring session and hilarious).

Anyway, yes Sr. is old, but as a trainer (maybe the best in the world), I am surprised his skills have not held up enough just by teaching, holding mitts, drilling, etc. plus he's always in videos even this year, taking off his shirt and flexing, clearly in great shape still and much better than his "opponent" in this sparring session.  Sr. was a legit World Champion (back when a title meant u were only one of 3 guys at a weight to be considered a champion, not one of 20 as today) so there is no better example to use than him to gauge boxing's techniques ability to still be efficient at handling yourself against an untrained "fighter," again speaking of the technical worthiness of boxing's skill set after you've aged a bit and lost some reflex time, since not only being the highest level of expression of the art/sport, he's still involved and training regularly.  

Also, the buffoon he's going against is wearing 16 oz gloves and following boxing rules (til the end ;-) and not kicking, grappling, etc. which undoubtably would have been a thousand times worse for Mayweather.  Again, speaking stylistically, I can't see this same goofball coming in and out wrestling a similarly aged John Smith or kickboxing Benny the Jet today.  Obviously all sports present the athlete with diminished skill levels as they age, but boxing seems to be particularly necessitated on youthful reflexes and timing.

Any opinions from the older, more experienced guys here with any boxing or martial arts backgrounds?  Anyone else saw this video or have opinion about it?  Video in question:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yINeFX-SC4s

Someone please embed, on cell phone...
Title: Re: Boxing poor for self defense when you factor in age
Post by: Radical Plato on April 09, 2014, 12:13:06 AM
Title: Re: Boxing poor for self defense when you factor in age
Post by: Nomad on April 09, 2014, 12:14:57 AM


Mayweather sr gases quickly.

Young guy is slow and loads up.
Title: Re: Boxing poor for self defense when you factor in age
Post by: Submissionfytr on April 09, 2014, 12:18:28 AM
Wow  :o someone just sent me a link to the Wigger's YouTube channel and he not only thinks he owns Sr., says he was next gonna KO Floyd Jr.  This is obviously old news, few years ago, but I never heard about it.  He also is going to gym storm Klitschko and knock him out "too."   :o I am at a loss for words  :-X

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zQIBfsa5RyY
Title: Re: Boxing poor for self defense when you factor in age
Post by: SF1900 on April 09, 2014, 12:26:42 AM
Looks like Wiggs was posting in the comment section.

Youtube comment to video:

was hoping someone like you would say shit like this. The reality is that we are all descended from black ancestors. Hispanics being of mixed descent, doesn't change that fact..
Title: Re: Boxing poor for self defense when you factor in age
Post by: Submissionfytr on April 09, 2014, 12:27:19 AM
Ok, I'm done with this for the night, last WOW  :o

He is going to be first middleweight to KO both heavyweight champions, and Floyd and Manny are ok fighters but no where on his skill level  ??? Oh, he throws 8 punches a second and 30,000 psi power in a single punch   ::)

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7OjIWvG0dA

I started this surprised boxing skills don't last well as we age, and found the biggest, delusional, douche bag tough guy alive today.  Amazing  :o
Title: Re: Boxing poor for self defense when you factor in age
Post by: BigCyp on April 09, 2014, 02:18:20 AM
Ok, I'm done with this for the night, last WOW  :o

He is going to be first middleweight to KO both heavyweight champions, and Floyd and Manny are ok fighters but no where on his skill level  ??? Oh, he throws 8 punches a second and 30,000 psi power in a single punch   ::)

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7OjIWvG0dA

I started this surprised boxing skills don't last well as we age, and found the biggest, delusional, douche bag tough guy alive today.  Amazing  :o

It was later discovered to be suckmymuscle wearing a prosthetic mask
Title: Re: Boxing poor for self defense when you factor in age
Post by: the trainer on April 09, 2014, 08:54:53 AM
My wrestling skills will never fade no matter how old i get as long as i am still training I will be able to pick up some idiot and slam him.
Title: Re: Boxing poor for self defense when you factor in age
Post by: oldtimer1 on April 09, 2014, 09:29:53 AM
Boxing is a brutal and exhausting sport for the young. Have you ever seen two twenty something guys go into the ring for the first time. At the end of a three minute round if one of them isn't knocked out they both can't even keep their hands up because of exhaustion.
Title: Re: Boxing poor for self defense when you factor in age
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 09, 2014, 10:16:02 AM
Bernard Hopkins still taking care of business as the oldest champion ever.
Title: Re: Boxing poor for self defense when you factor in age
Post by: Darren Avey on April 09, 2014, 10:17:55 AM
My wrestling skills will never fade no matter how old i get as long as i am still training I will be able to pick up some idiot and slam him.

How would your wrestling skills fare against a prime angry Mike Tyson?
Title: Re: Boxing poor for self defense when you factor in age
Post by: SuperTed on April 09, 2014, 10:24:00 AM
Jack Dempsey apparently laid out two would be muggers when he was in his 70's.
Title: Re: Boxing poor for self defense when you factor in age
Post by: the trainer on April 09, 2014, 03:25:11 PM
How would your wrestling skills fare against a prime angry Mike Tyson?

My wrestling is only for douchebags in the street who try to start shit.
Title: Re: Boxing poor for self defense when you factor in age
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 10, 2014, 09:36:40 AM
Pacquiao got knocked the F out last time and will probably get tko'd this Saturday = aging.
Title: Re: Boxing poor for self defense when you factor in age
Post by: wes on April 10, 2014, 09:46:15 AM
Roger Mayweather was a far better boxer than Floyd Sr.

Just sayin`
Title: Re: Boxing poor for self defense when you factor in age
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 10, 2014, 09:48:07 AM
Roger Mayweather was a far better boxer than Floyd Sr.

Just sayin`
I gotcha you on that.
Title: Re: Boxing poor for self defense when you factor in age
Post by: latiuss on April 10, 2014, 10:09:02 AM
Dosnt boxing cause ms and parkingson's?
Title: Re: Boxing poor for self defense when you factor in age
Post by: MONSTER_TRICEPS on April 10, 2014, 10:24:41 AM
Title: Re: Boxing poor for self defense when you factor in age
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 10, 2014, 11:25:18 AM
I'm a Purple Belt in BJJ and know many submissions but none are as satisfying as punching someone in the face.
Title: Re: Boxing poor for self defense when you factor in age
Post by: Alucard on April 10, 2014, 11:32:50 AM
It's not a matter of boxing, kickboxing, bjj or others, aging is the problem...