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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Shockwave on April 11, 2014, 03:14:54 PM
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Just thought I'd repost this, for awesomeness.
Courtesy of Deltamda.
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Real talk.
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That vid is the closest to capturing Yates' 3d effect that is often missing in photos and really only appreciated in person.
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That vid is the closest to capturing Yates' 3d effect that is often missing in photos and really only appreciated in person.
Exactly why I posted it. I wonder if a lot of it is due to the pre-digital age.....
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soon it will be yate on the receiving end of that finger
(http://www.getbig.com/pics/olympia/2006/expo/oly5143.jpg)
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soon it will be yate on the receiving end of that finger
(http://vfranco.blogspot.com/)
Can't see shit captain.
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Exactly why I posted it. I wonder if a lot of it is due to the pre-digital age.....
not sure, but Yates' foot position in poses often hides his outer quads a bit which can make his legs look almost thin. I can see how those who follow the sport only from muscletime photos can get confused.
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How long has Dorian been wearing earrings? Meterosexuals can get away with it. But Dorian isn't a metero.
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Like college basketball, bodybuilding peaked 20 years ago.
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That vid is the closest to capturing Yates' 3d effect that is often missing in photos and really only appreciated in person.
Well said.
Dorian had to be seen in real life to fully appreciate just how Big he was.
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He literally looks like a tank, huge from every angle, wide and dense. ... almost hard to describe.
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Monster Calves !! :o :o
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I think we should start another dorian vs ronnie discussion.
I truly believe dorian was better, even sans both arms.
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He literally looks like a tank, huge from every angle, wide and dense. ... almost hard to describe.
Well said,
He is impossible to describe pictures just do not do him justice.
With Dorian seeing is Believing.
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I think we should start another dorian vs ronnie discussion.
I truly believe dorian was better, even sans both arms.
So do I... but I think Dos filled the actual IBM judging criteria better... I also prefer his build, he has that monster, herculean look, where Ronnie had more a cartoonish caricature look.
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I think this photo shoot captured his granite look about as good
as any photos.
BTW - That video is shot in a 4:3 ratio format and posted in a 16:9 format
making his waist look a lot wider but also everything else.
This may have come from the makers of the DVD but I've seen other shots
from Nasser and they have that same stretched out look that are not from Delta.
I've also seen the original format video.
Open pictures to full size to get the full effect.
These smaller pictures don't do the full size ones justice.
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I think this photo shoot captured his granite look about as good
as any photos.
BTW - That video is shot in a 4:3 ratio format and posted in a 16:9 format
making his waist look a lot wider but also everything else.
This may have come from the makers of the DVD but I've seen other shots
from Nasser and they have that same stretched out look that are not from Delta.
looked insane at this weight ,but...
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Just thought I'd repost this, for awesomeness.
Courtesy of Deltamda.
To date, I think this (1996 German Grand Prix Dorian) was the greatest physique to ever grace any bodybuilding stage.
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It's too bad that Yates did not look this good a week earlier at the 96 Olympia
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To date, I think this (1996 German Grand Prix Dorian) was the greatest physique to ever grace any bodybuilding stage.
one of the last multi mro's with sick calves of past 5 winners..from the rear with the massive back to slender but shredded hams then to bottom calves hang of from sides and rear like no other..
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If he had better arms then I would rate that physique as the best of all - time.
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forget dorian, nails, who's in your avatar ???
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will be yrs, decades before we see a top 6 line up like that....
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I'm not a Yates fan, but holy fucking fuck, everytime i rewatch that video i'm speechless... Pure unmatched granite rock hard physique from head to toe, he looks bulletproof... And people talk about Heath's 3D effect, lol, this is another universe... Yes, bodybuiding peaked in the early 90s...
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If he had better arms then I would rate that physique as the best of all - time.
needs a smaller waist/better taper too.
his waist is tank wide in that vid.
nothing like the mr. O that came after him.
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needs a smaller waist/better taper too.
his waist is tank wide in that vid.
nothing like the mr. O that came after him.
Without fail. Hulkster is like that insecure high school cheerleader... it drives him crazy when someone else besides his hero is getting praise or attention, he hates the idea that others may believe that someone besides his chocolate muscle stud was the GOAT.
Too bad Dos didn't need that narrower waist when he smashed your hero into a pulp over and over. ;D
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waist like a barrel, ugly quads, small'ish arms. would. not. hit.
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Another pic showing Yates hard to capture aspect... from 95..
(http://muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=40070&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)
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Just thought I'd repost this, for awesomeness.
Courtesy of Deltamda.
No one can touch this.
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No one can touch this.
Not even Dorian it seemed, he never reproduced that condition again. I wonder if he did something "wrong" in his stage prep that ended up giving him his best look ever. Maybe it was the stars aligning that night or something
I'm not a big Dorian fan, but if he had nailed this conditioning two weeks earlier, it would have been the best showing to ever grace the Olympia stage
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Even without legs, I'm going with prime Arnold.
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needs a smaller waist/better taper too.
his waist is tank wide in that vid.
nothing like the mr. O that came after him.
And that "mr. O that came after him" placed 5th at the 1996 German Grand Prix (which Yates won)... 5th is an amazing placing considering he was competing against Yates, Nasser,Levrone, Dillett etc.
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4641203&d=1341792166) (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4642023&d=1341794190)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/35lfeqt.gif)
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Wow Ronnie looks great too.... makes you wonder how much of the excellent showings can be attributed to the lighting
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I just don't see Dorian as that great a bodybuilder, weird looking arms (very short insertions), a big gut, small chest, etc. The only impressive parts about him are his calves and lats.
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I just don't see Dorian as that great a bodybuilder, weird looking arms (very short insertions), a big gut, small chest, etc. The only impressive parts about him are his calves and lats.
Don't forget his consistency & conditioning. I agree with you somewhat, but I respect him for doing more with his genetics than perhaps any bodybuilder ever
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Another pic showing Yates hard to capture aspect... from 95..
(http://muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=40070&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)
Yates looks very good here, and that was the second best Levrone ever...Even without legs, I'm going with prime Arnold.
Arnold had plenty of legs at his best, coupled with great calves... Arnold no legs it's myth that should end...
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Yates looks very good here, and that was the second best Levrone ever...Arnold had plenty of legs at his best, coupled with great calves... Arnold no legs it's myth that should end...
I think a lot of Yates hate are myths as well.. when you actually look at a lot of the pics from 93-96, his waist is actually as narrow as Nasser or Levrone... and a lot of the complaints people gripe about are either just myths, or its because they show up in 1 or 2 popular pics that get passed around.
Dude did have some arm issues later on, no doubt.
And Arnold did have good legs, no idea where that came from. Probably people who weren't big fans of Arnold trying to find something to criticize him with.
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I just don't see Dorian as that great a bodybuilder, weird looking arms (very short insertions), a big gut, small chest, etc. The only impressive parts about him are his calves and lats.
Sorry, but ^^^this.
At his best Dorian was granite, but the shape of his physique is not very pleasing.
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I think a lot of Yates hate are myths as well.. when you actually look at a lot of the pics from 93-96, his waist is actually as narrow as Nasser or Levrone... and a lot of the complaints people gripe about are either just myths, or its because they show up in 1 or 2 popular pics that get passed around.
Dude did have some arm issues later on, no doubt.
And Arnold did have good legs, no idea where that came from. Probably people who weren't big fans of Arnold trying to find something to criticize him with.
I agree... Yates problems were mostly arms and the stomach distension in later years... One could argue about upper legs, but they were very good imo... Yes, his waist was pretty tight first years, just as much as El Sonbaty and Levrone... Another myth was about Levrone's waist and aesthetic... He was a fantastic bodybuilder, but after '95 he became blocky, and except in '92 and before he was never that aesthetic... Agree completely about Arnold...
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And that "mr. O that came after him" placed 5th at the 1996 German Grand Prix (which Yates won)... 5th is an amazing placing considering he was competing against Yates, Nasser,Levrone, Dillett etc.
true, but look how much Ronnie improved from 1996/7 to 1999:
he would have made Yates look like nothing if he stood next to him looking this much better than he did in 96: the transformation in Ronnie is insane.
just like the transformation in Yates from 91/2 to 93.
Yates 93 (with two arms) is the only form of dorian that can compare to ronnie.
all the post tear forms are garbage. no matter how hard he came in.
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true, but look how much Ronnie improved from 1996 to 1999:
he would have made Yates look like nothing if he stood next to him looking this much better than he did in 96:
Dude just stop. You have a 1400 page thread to argue about your hero. This thread is not for you to cry about your hero not getting attention.
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true, but look how much Ronnie improved from 1996/7 to 1999:
he would have made Yates look like nothing if he stood next to him looking this much better than he did in 96: the transformation in Ronnie is insane.
just like the transformation in Yates from 91/2 to 93.
Yates 93 (with two arms) is the only form of dorian that can compare to ronnie.
all the post tear forms are garbage. no matter how hard he came in.
Coleman was big as a house in '96 and '97, his '98 and '99 winning version (who are Coleman at his best ever, imo) are a clear refinement of the early versions, with better conditioning and muscle maturity...
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ronnie's back never reached this level when talking about condition.. i always consider dorian's back the best ever.. his calves too,.. are the best ever..
i think in this show he presented his best condition but in mr. olympia 95 and 93 he was fuller..
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true, but look how much Ronnie improved from 1996/7 to 1999:
he would have made Yates look like nothing if he stood next to him looking this much better than he did in 96: the transformation in Ronnie is insane.
just like the transformation in Yates from 91/2 to 93.
Yates 93 (with two arms) is the only form of dorian that can compare to ronnie.
all the post tear forms are garbage. no matter how hard he came in.
Wow, Hulkster in yet another Dorian Yates thread ::)
Why don't you make a thread about your black stud love muffin and don't pollute another Yates thread with your bullshit.
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true, but look how much Ronnie improved from 1996/7 to 1999:
he would have made Yates look like nothing if he stood next to him
No he wouldn't have. You have no context on any of this because you've never been to pro show, and only look at pictures from different years.
Nobody in the 90s could make Yates look like "nothing", especially if the weighed less.
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i think in this show he presented his best condition but in mr. olympia 95 and 93 he was fuller..
I agree. I like his 1993 physique best because both of his arms never looked better and his physique had great flow to it while still being in amazing condition and being full.
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I agree. I like his 1993 physique best because both of his arms never looked better and his physique had great flow to it while still being in amazing condition and being full.
I don't think his arms responded to his training style like the rest of his body.
often make me wonder how he could have looked if he trained his arms differently... I noticed my arms respond to volume much more than my back, which seems to like less volume and heavier weights.
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Yates 93 with two good arms, is the absolute peak of the sport, with Wheelers Ironman and Arnold showing earlier that year being the second, Ronnie at his peak could be argued as third just due to the amount of muscle he carried, but he never possessed the balance and shape of either Yates or Wheeler at their very peak.
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Yates 93 with two good arms, is the absolute peak of the sport, with Wheelers Ironman and Arnold showing earlier that year being the second, Ronnie at his peak could be argued as third just due to the amount of muscle he carried, but he never possessed the balance and shape of either Yates or Wheeler at their very peak.
agreed.
Yates was thick,complete, and conditioned head to toe.
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Definitely peaked in the 90's.
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I don't think his arms responded to his training style like the rest of his body.
often make me wonder how he could have looked if he trained his arms differently... I noticed my arms respond to volume much more than my back, which seems to like less volume and heavier weights.
his arms were great in 93.. but may be after injuring his left biceps he was not able to do biceps bars exercises as hard as before the injury because of his weaker left side.. also with the one hand exercises,.. may be he was not going to the max when doing the right side just to keep the gap between the 2 arms as narrow as possible!!..
also it was not only his arm that was not the same level as his back and calves but also his chest and shoulders.. they were great but not as great as his 2 best parts.. same as any person,.. some parts are always genetically better than the others even if they are all very good..