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Should it be someone that worldwide is perceived as having the ideal physique ?
If so, does Frank Zane (3X MR.O ) ....takes that tittle?
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Should it be someone that worldwide is perceived as having the ideal physique ?
Over the years when I spoken to guys in the gym about who has their ideal physique and who they would most want to look like, regardless of Olympia wins or fame in bodybuilding, this guy comes up time and time again more than anyone:
(http://body-world.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/BobParis2.jpg)
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This is how it goes for me:
Natural Build: Steve Reeves/ Early Reg Park
Juiced: Arnold Schwarzenegger, Larry Scott, Serge Nubret
Super Juiced: Ronnie Coleman, Kevin Leverone
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Hard to define a good bodybuilder, since most of their look, outside of condition, is out of their control.
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ARNOLD
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FUCK OUTTA HERE WITH THE TWINK PARADE
COLEMAN #1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe..... but compared to Frank Zane; in a popular survey Ronnie will be lucky if he gets 5% of what guys aspire to look like and woman desire to have.
Interesting Enough Zane is a Mr.O too.
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Natural: Reeves. Park.
Drugs: Arnold. Zane. Paris.
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(http://www.pwnfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/branch-warren-guest-posing-2013.jpg)
Offseason hobgoblin of peace.
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natural ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Those two were. It really does no good to say they were not to salve your own use, young man. ;D
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Arnuldo Shuresenfegel
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Over the years when I spoken to guys in the gym about who has their ideal physique and who they would most want to look like, regardless of Olympia wins or fame in bodybuilding, this guy comes up time and time again more than anyone:
(http://body-world.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/BobParis2.jpg)
Overall, combined with his looks (no homo), I agree. The only minor flaws he had was that his torso was a bit too long and his chest was short.
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I thought it was common knowledge that Phil Heath is the greatest of all time?
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I thought it was common knowledge that Phil Heath is the greatest of all time?
Courtesy dictates that the great one should only be referred to as "The Gift".
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natural ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
You're just mad because he had 18" arms. ;D
(http://www.davidgentle.com/images/reevesthree.jpg)
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Natural: Reeves. Park.
Drugs: Arnold. Zane. Paris.
Reg Park was far from natural
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I always thought Serge Nubret had the ideal physique.
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I always thought Serge Nubret had the ideal physique.
this
perfect blend of size and shape
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(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/gregkovacs_zps5cf49d57.jpg) (http://s183.photobucket.com/user/timeamajorova/media/gregkovacs_zps5cf49d57.jpg.html)
Ripped, Vascular, Tight Waist...great aesthetics - Ideal physique.
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Another pathetic crash and burn. Funny when you think about how much hype this guy received.
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Ripped, Vascular, Tight Waist...great aesthetics - Ideal physique.
Ah, the PPP
Poon
Pulling
Physique
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so joe average gets to decide who is the best mr o ::)
Wrong.
The best bodybuilder is someone that based on his physique, the MAJORITY of people think is what a muscular man should look like.
Btw, Who knows what a Mr.Olympia is? Ask you brother,sister,boss etc .... NOBODY
Hell, even Arnold and Lou call themselves Mr.Universe champs rather than Mr.O when speaking to the masses.
Things you should not overlook :
1-Zane can be the best of both world the best BB by popular definition, and "an attainable physique" by the eyes of the die hard fan Bodybuilder"
2-The ideal physique for the mainstream/masses
3-and yet an elite Bodybuilder given his Mr.Universe and Mr.O tittles.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=531442.0;attach=561781;image)
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Reg Park was far from natural
Really Danny? You know this ?? You pussies never cease to amaze me. So you have a shitty little physique - deal with it and stop the gay ass whining. PLENTY of people can build the physique Reg had natural. Just not shitbags with garbage genetics. If you can't build muscle and can't see your abs naturally your genes are inferior.. If you do nothing to rectify this - then YOU are inferior..
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'99 Coleman or '74 Arnold
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'99 Coleman or '74 Arnold
2013 ESFitness
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2013 ESFitness
Yep! He told us!
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`83 Samir
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-N0Z2CJ_QOjQ/UD2e0MA9dXI/AAAAAAAABE0/eZF9z4MorWU/s1600/samir-bannout-Mr-Olympia-beach.jpg)
(http://www.bodybuildingdungeon.com/forums/attachments/old-school-pictures/2132d1135545204-samir-bannout-samir-benout-1.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-DmbmVL__cgU/T5hTNVQ7vnI/AAAAAAAABcw/WqZnhjYr9Mk/s1600/Mr.+Olympia+83+Samir+Bannout!a.jpg)
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^^^NO WEAK POINTS^^^
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^^^NO WEAK POINTS^^^
Mustache could be fuller.
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Client of ESFitness: 2014 Mr. SWEETSPOT
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2013 ESFitness
THE best kept secret in bodybuilding
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THE best kept secret in bodybuilding
:D :D
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Courtesy dictates that the great one should only be referred to as "The Gift".
I'm sorry.. "The gift" ;D
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Best bodybuilder of all time it does not get better than this.
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4073181&d=1327372072)
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Mustache could be fuller.
C`mon Doc,that`s a mature 70`s porno stache if there ever was one.
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She's kind of new on the scene.
Doesn't have the money for a boob-job so she's not gonna waste her time wearing a Bikini Top....
(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/jaycutleret_zps7aea3874.jpg) (http://s183.photobucket.com/user/timeamajorova/media/jaycutleret_zps7aea3874.jpg.html)
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I don't think somebody like Zane should be considered best bodybuilder of all time simply because he has the physique that "normal" people relate to most.
If the question was what is the greatest male physique of all time then maybe guys like Zane could be near the top. But personally I believe a bodybuilder should carry more muscle mass than Zane while maintaining good conditioning, symmetry, balance etc. Doesn't need to be a mass monster either by the way.
I would say Lee Haney got the balance just right. A lot of mass but maintained a very symmetrical look with no bloated gut. Rounding out the top three would be Sir Ronnie Coleman (during his earlier years - around 1999) and as much as I hate to say it, Flex Wheeler (synthol aside, has there ever been a better responder to drugs than this guy)?
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSf_vnnRBn7GpOCkLaEnQN3bvn39jHUsQRYVOEllCR7qNfyHin2) (http://musclemecca.com/imported-images/2010/05/1999mrolympia1232009083-1.jpg)
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C`mon Doc,that`s a mature 70`s porno stache if there ever was one.
Hey, it was the best I could do on short notice. ;D
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`83 Samir
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-N0Z2CJ_QOjQ/UD2e0MA9dXI/AAAAAAAABE0/eZF9z4MorWU/s1600/samir-bannout-Mr-Olympia-beach.jpg)
(http://www.bodybuildingdungeon.com/forums/attachments/old-school-pictures/2132d1135545204-samir-bannout-samir-benout-1.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-DmbmVL__cgU/T5hTNVQ7vnI/AAAAAAAABcw/WqZnhjYr9Mk/s1600/Mr.+Olympia+83+Samir+Bannout!a.jpg)
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTKKtlqquKv6Ogmtf-bVCG5W9t6A4jayCTooDs25SuKB6YzLk1g)
Without being the massive size of today's men,
Bigger than zane but still a Hugely Impressive Physique.
Hard to fault. Great pics.
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`83 Samir
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-DmbmVL__cgU/T5hTNVQ7vnI/AAAAAAAABcw/WqZnhjYr9Mk/s1600/Mr.+Olympia+83+Samir+Bannout!a.jpg)
Fantastic.
Too bad he always came in slightly smooth and watery after that. Haney was another problem.
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Samir always looked great.
(http://www.bodybuildingfanatic.com/samir-bannout.jpg)
(http://body-world.net/wp-content/gallery/samir-bannout/Samir-Bannout4.jpg)
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3804523&d=1319147909)
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I don't think somebody like Zane should be considered best bodybuilder of all time simply because he has the physique that "normal" people relate to most.
If the question was what is the greatest male physique of all time then maybe guys like Zane could be near the top. But personally I believe a bodybuilder should carry more muscle mass than Zane while maintaining good conditioning, symmetry, balance etc. Doesn't need to be a mass monster either by the way.
I would say Lee Haney got the balance just right. A lot of mass but maintained a very symmetrical look with no bloated gut. Rounding out the top three would be Sir Ronnie Coleman (during his earlier years - around 1999) and as much as I hate to say it, Flex Wheeler (synthol aside, has there ever been a better responder to drugs than this guy)?
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSf_vnnRBn7GpOCkLaEnQN3bvn39jHUsQRYVOEllCR7qNfyHin2) (http://musclemecca.com/imported-images/2010/05/1999mrolympia1232009083-1.jpg)
Mr Ruhl and Mr Dillet comes to mind. (In terms of response)
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Mr Ruhl and Mr Dillet comes to mind. (In terms of response)
Yep absolutely, both of those guys, Dillett especially, had an insane response to drugs. I don't think there is anybody who looks more different on and off than Dillett.
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I don't think somebody like Zane should be considered best bodybuilder of all time simply because he has the physique that "normal" people relate to most.
If the question was what is the greatest male physique of all time then maybe guys like Zane could be near the top. But personally I believe a bodybuilder should carry more muscle mass than Zane while maintaining good conditioning, symmetry, balance etc. Doesn't need to be a mass monster either by the way.
I would say Lee Haney got the balance just right. A lot of mass but maintained a very symmetrical look with no bloated gut. Rounding out the top three would be Sir Ronnie Coleman (during his earlier years - around 1999) and as much as I hate to say it, Flex Wheeler (synthol aside, has there ever been a better responder to drugs than this guy)?
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSf_vnnRBn7GpOCkLaEnQN3bvn39jHUsQRYVOEllCR7qNfyHin2) (http://musclemecca.com/imported-images/2010/05/1999mrolympia1232009083-1.jpg)
Good point.
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`83 Samir
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-N0Z2CJ_QOjQ/UD2e0MA9dXI/AAAAAAAABE0/eZF9z4MorWU/s1600/samir-bannout-Mr-Olympia-beach.jpg)
(http://www.bodybuildingdungeon.com/forums/attachments/old-school-pictures/2132d1135545204-samir-bannout-samir-benout-1.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-DmbmVL__cgU/T5hTNVQ7vnI/AAAAAAAABcw/WqZnhjYr9Mk/s1600/Mr.+Olympia+83+Samir+Bannout!a.jpg)
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTKKtlqquKv6Ogmtf-bVCG5W9t6A4jayCTooDs25SuKB6YzLk1g)
Samir st the standard for back development in 83!
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Samir st the standard for back development in 83!
Back was mostly an afterthought then, like legs in the 70s. Don't you think? Franco being the exception, then later Samir, Haney, Benaziza, Munzer, etc. made it a bigger deal.
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Back was mostly an afterthought then, like legs in the 70s. Don't you think? Franco being the exception, then later Samir, Haney, Benaziza, Munzer, etc. made it a bigger deal.
Can U still lift old man ?.
:)
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Can U still lift old man ?.
:)
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How old am I?
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How old am I?
+ 60 , :) & U could not squat any more !.
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+ 60 , :) & U could not squat any more !.
Ah. How did you arrive at this number? I'm sure you've scoured my post history, so why 60 plus?
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Hey, it was the best I could do on short notice. ;D
I know how it is my friend! ;)
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Ah. How did you arrive at this number? I'm sure you've scoured my post history, so why 60 plus?
Just remember , ;D
Go 4 a glass of Mezcal/Tequila ;)
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Lee Haney had that Dominance in his era that Arnold and Sergio had before him, his Taper for a Man over 250lbs in Competiton shape imo still ranks right up there with the best of the best
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His mass combined with outstanding condationing wasnt anything too sneeze about ether
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1986
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Not so common one of Yates and Haney in 1991
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Wow. I've never seen this thread on here before!
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smooth split of peace...
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Coleman's chest looks ridiculous in that pic.
Coleman really is the best ever.
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what made zane looked good was that he was a slight framed 150lb guy whos response to anabolics was phenominal. thats the perfect storm right there- small famre and joints, a pure ecto whos got amazing response.
thats how you get that dense tissue that he holds.
imo the best bber ever was serge nubret.
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what made zane looked good was that he was a slight framed 150lb guy whos response to anabolics was phenominal. thats the perfect storm right there- small famre and joints, a pure ecto whos got amazing response.
thats how you get that dense tissue that he holds.
imo the best bber ever was serge nubret.
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x2 zane...
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Lee Haney had that Dominance in his era that Arnold and Sergio had before him, his Taper for a Man over 250lbs in Competiton shape imo still ranks right up there with the best of the best
No insulin
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Totally Different eras Haney 1986 Coleman appox 2003-2005 with the obvious size factor, these too had Slimmer structures
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his delts came up big time over the yrs his chest /legs/arms were standout here..
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ARNIE
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He looks pretty craptastic there.
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I usually am not a huge fan of Dorian but I think the 1993 version of him was one of the best if not best in history. I believe in his prime RC was king and much larger, but the package Dorian brought to 1993 was outstanding. He was symmetrical that year with that granite hardness. Amazing improvement from 1992 and so much better than 1994, 1996, and 1997 when he realized his time on top was coming to an end.
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I usually am not a huge fan of Dorian but I think the 1993 version of him was one of the best if not best in history. I believe in his prime RC was king and much larger, but the package Dorian brought to 1993 was outstanding. He was symmetrical that year with that granite hardness. Amazing improvement from 1992 and so much better than 1994, 1996, and 1997 when he realized his time on top was coming to an end.
Unlike you I'm a huge fan of Dorian, but I disagree with you ... ;D
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Arnold!!!!!!! Steve Reeves for best natty.
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Arnold!!!!!!! Steve Reeves for best natty.
I tend to agree.
Reeves was really something in his day. It's difficult to see when we look back into that era from today, but if you look closely, it seems people put him on a god-like pedestal. Especially the women.
I wonder why he retired from everything so early? They say he had a lot of demons. Maybe we can just thank Hollywood for that... I dunno.
He was perfectly proportioned and I think he pioneered much more in the bodybuilding world than we actually give him credit for.
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Unlike you I'm a huge fan of Dorian, but I disagree with you ... ;D
PSB, I think Dorian was at his best in 1992 / 1993 / maybe 1995. However, he was rock solid in 1993. Would I take Zane's or Paris' look; hell yes. However, you have to admit he was damn good and a fantastic BB in 1993. Personally, I think Haney in his prime is the best. Imagine how big he would have gotten with GH and insulin and who knows what else todays guys are using.
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Arnie was too small. Sergio smoked him in the MM.
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Arnie was too small. Sergio smoked him in the MM.
Sergio was incredible. Definitely deserves a mention as one of the best
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Arnold, then Bob Paris.
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Arnold, then Bob Paris.
Zane, Rory, Reeves, Flex, all the aesthetic guys. But, yeah, Arnold is king.
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Arnie was too small. Sergio smoked him in the MM.
Arnold did a lot of psych-out and deceptive shit to beat Sergio. That's a FACT!
Sergio was an anomaly, much like Coleman. There will never be another of either...
Genetics just sick.
Casey Viator had some good bodybuilding genetics, but he was def not in the "top" list as far as aesthetics and all-timers
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not bad...
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Arnold did a lot of psych-out and deceptive shit to beat Sergio. That's a FACT!
Sergio was an anomaly, much like Coleman. There will never be another of either...
Genetics just sick.
Casey Viator had some good bodybuilding genetics, but he was def not in the "top" list as far as aesthetics and all-timers
But how does being psyched out affect the score sheets? Doesn't change your physique any.