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Title: Dosages verses Gains??
Post by: Simple Simon on April 26, 2014, 10:44:41 AM
Do high doses equal better gains?
(http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/image.php?u=63103&dateline=1322090682&type=profile)
Re: highest dose tren you've personally run?
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Highest number ever was 2100mg tren ace a week so 3ml a day.

It was good very good recomp wise and strength too. I barely slept, had high BP, was a walking furnace, paranoid/depressed/bipolar, very angry and just cared about training.

Kept it at that high for 3 weeks then came onto a cruise. I had built up over 20 weeks from 400mg tren ace. I just wanted to see how much I could cope with and see if my head would pop.

Up to a gram the result were more pronounced. After that nothing really other than the ability to say I'm running x.

Next tren run will be about 600mg enth a week.

From another forum.
Title: Re: Dosages verses Gains??
Post by: falco on April 26, 2014, 10:51:06 AM
About gear the only thing i know for sure is that 6 grams is the sweet spot!  :D
Title: Re: Dosages verses Gains??
Post by: Simple Simon on April 26, 2014, 10:52:22 AM
About gear the only thing i know for sure is that 6 grams is the sweet spot!  :D
Im sure his photo will appear in this thread at some point.  :)
Title: Re: Dosages verses Gains??
Post by: wolfrittner on April 26, 2014, 10:54:17 AM
 as you wish !!
Title: Re: Dosages verses Gains??
Post by: wolfrittner on April 26, 2014, 10:56:40 AM
I used 700mg for one week from the usual 300 and I couldn't see a difference. But the sides were just horrendous!! 2100, you must be out of your friggin mind and loaded with money!
Title: Re: Dosages verses Gains??
Post by: Rascal full on April 26, 2014, 01:04:28 PM
I have used up to a gram a week but didn't feel my training was of sufficient consistency or intensity to stay at that level. Why inject more when you aren't fully utilising what you are already taking has always been my feeling.
Title: Re: Dosages verses Gains??
Post by: Darren Avey on April 26, 2014, 01:12:46 PM
A UK bodybuilder called Adam Taylor told me his dosages are like 2500 of test and week and 1500 of tren a week and like 10IUs HGH a day. Silly fucker also takes like 3 scoops of Noxplode mixed with redbull pre workout.
That Hearts gonna go boom one day
Title: Re: Dosages verses Gains??
Post by: Simple Simon on April 26, 2014, 01:19:18 PM
A UK bodybuilder called Adam Taylor told me his dosages are like 2500 of test and week and 1500 of tren a week and like 10IUs HGH a day. Silly fucker also takes like 3 scoops of Noxplode mixed with redbull pre workout.
That Hearts gonna go boom one day

Seriously, you should stop posting pics and naming names on here.
Does Adam know you are telling everyone what he's taking on a public forum?
Title: Re: Dosages verses Gains??
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on April 26, 2014, 01:58:44 PM
No joke. Remind me to never tell Darren "Tattle Tale" Avey my cycle.
Title: Re: Dosages verses Gains??
Post by: Simple Simon on April 26, 2014, 02:01:36 PM
(http://www.phgfoundation.org/file_gateway?link_ID=3402)

Leaving the changing room after finding out a local guys drug protocol.
Title: Re: Dosages verses Gains??
Post by: no one on April 26, 2014, 02:48:13 PM
Do high doses equal better gains?
(http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/image.php?u=63103&dateline=1322090682&type=profile)
Re: highest dose tren you've personally run?
From another forum.

i tried 2g tren once for a while just to see what it would do.

imo you dont need nearly that much. and if your going to use that much you had better be goddamn lean, or else its just a waste.

edit: at that amount you'd think sides would be exasperated multipied by the dose. i didnt get 3 times he irritabilty or anything else. was pretty static in comparison to the 700 i normally ran. then again it'll affect everyone differently.
Title: Re: Dosages verses Gains??
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on April 26, 2014, 02:48:47 PM
I did like 2.1 (lol ;D) grams once and weighed about 185.. looked decent I thought.

About a year later I was around 1/10th of that dose, weighed 10 pounds more at a similar bodyfat.  Didn't look quite as drugged up though, which would make sense I suppose



Title: Re: Dosages verses Gains??
Post by: Mawse on April 26, 2014, 03:39:36 PM
Is this one of the kids from the Special school over at steroidology.com ?

I can only imagine what a beast he must be.


to be fair as a powerlifter / fatass I did run some prostate abusing cycles but never looked any better than I do at 500mg a week. Strength was up but having a Cswol melon isn't a hit with the ladies

tren abuse = much higher BP, shit HDL levels, shuts down conversion of hgh into IGF1, drops SHBG production to nothing and bizzarely also shut down my DHT levels. And of course all the sides from prolactin elevation

Great stuff
Title: Re: Dosages verses Gains??
Post by: wes on April 26, 2014, 03:44:42 PM
The best thing that anyone could do is to use as much gear as they need to keep gaining or to stay anabolic.

In other words,get the most out of the least.

More is usually not better, and oftentimes,not needed,unless your next show is the Olympia.
Title: Re: Dosages verses Gains??
Post by: no one on April 26, 2014, 05:53:26 PM
The best thing that anyone could do is to use as much gear as they need to keep gaining or to stay anabolic.

In other words,get the most out of the least.

More is usually not better, and oftentimes,not needed,unless your next show is the Olympia.

preach on my brother.
Title: Re: Dosages verses Gains??
Post by: the trainer on April 26, 2014, 05:55:17 PM
I never tried that tren shit it has too many nasty side effects.
Title: Re: Dosages verses Gains??
Post by: Hulkotron on April 26, 2014, 06:28:23 PM
Trenbaloney ACE
Title: Re: Dosages verses Gains??
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on April 26, 2014, 06:43:01 PM
I didn't notice a difference at 700mg per week versus 500mg. If I ever use tren again, it will be 210mg per week. I doubt I'll ever use it again though. HRT for life
Title: Re: Dosages verses Gains??
Post by: ESFitness on April 26, 2014, 07:43:05 PM
take all you can afford, but if you're not supplying your body with enough material to grow, you're not gonna grow past a certain point.

eating what I want, when I want and not force-feeding myself every 2hours I maintain 230's whether I'm running 500/wk or 5k/wk, all that changes is body comp and hardness.

heaviest and leanest I've been was when I was using maybe 3g/wk, but force-feeding myself every 2hrs with food I hated eating.... wasn't the drugs or training that burned me out, it was the eating. even then I doubt I was using more than 100/day or tren ace (was pellet's back then), along with pet pharma test enan and denkall eq at a gram (which I believe was a waste of time).

it's been years since I was running high dose tren.
Title: Re: Dosages verses Gains??
Post by: no one on April 26, 2014, 10:45:38 PM
take all you can afford, but if you're not supplying your body with enough material to grow, you're not gonna grow past a certain point.

eating what I want, when I want and not force-feeding myself every 2hours I maintain 230's whether I'm running 500/wk or 5k/wk, all that changes is body comp and hardness.

heaviest and leanest I've been was when I was using maybe 3g/wk, but force-feeding myself every 2hrs with food I hated eating.... wasn't the drugs or training that burned me out, it was the eating. even then I doubt I was using more than 100/day or tren ace (was pellet's back then), along with pet pharma test enan and denkall eq at a gram (which I believe was a waste of time).

it's been years since I was running high dose tren.

 ::)
Title: Re: Dosages verses Gains??
Post by: ESFitness on April 27, 2014, 01:03:43 AM
::)

keep'em rollin sissy.
Title: Re: Dosages verses Gains??
Post by: Darren Avey on April 27, 2014, 01:07:21 AM
Seriously, you should stop posting pics and naming names on here.
Does Adam know you are telling everyone what he's taking on a public forum?

Yes, he posts here and wants to be known in the industry, hes looking the best hes ever looked at the moment 3 weeks out from his next comp were again he ll prove his place on that stage.
Title: Re: Dosages verses Gains??
Post by: bigmc on April 27, 2014, 02:04:46 AM
take all you can afford, but if you're not supplying your body with enough material to grow, you're not gonna grow past a certain point.

eating what I want, when I want and not force-feeding myself every 2hours I maintain 230's whether I'm running 500/wk or 5k/wk, all that changes is body comp and hardness.

heaviest and leanest I've been was when I was using maybe 3g/wk, but force-feeding myself every 2hrs with food I hated eating.... wasn't the drugs or training that burned me out, it was the eating. even then I doubt I was using more than 100/day or tren ace (was pellet's back then), along with pet pharma test enan and denkall eq at a gram (which I believe was a waste of time).

it's been years since I was running high dose tren.

how do you equate that guys like no one and simon are a lot bigger than you on much less gear

im not hating be interested on your take on that

do they just have better genetics?
Title: Re: Dosages verses Gains??
Post by: latiuss on April 27, 2014, 04:15:03 AM
fell into the trap of thinking more is better...how wrong was i.. what took 20weeks n 3grams(was partyin hard and smoking cigs n weed everyday) of lazy training shit diet letting the srugs do the work, ive gone beyond in 6weeks on 800mgtotal(no drinkin no smokin) with good diet and intense training. i was listening ro the wrong people like deca has to be 800 min test gram min orals 1gram etc . like many have stated start low and get as MUCH as you can off that , then either add compound or up teh dose baby. thats my opinion anyeays
Title: Re: Dosages verses Gains??
Post by: BB on April 27, 2014, 06:24:00 AM
Just wanted to post this here for posterity's sake, it's Billy Mimnaugh's current stack -


"Blood pressure is perfect.
Cycle
5,000 test
1200 tren
1200 masterone
1000 deca
1000 anadrol
Proviron 200 a day
Arimidex-50 a day
T3-100 micrograms a day
Synthroid-150 micrograms a day
50 nolvadex
Also injecting melantan 2.
Will be adding anavar and winny as well as letrozole"

Claims that he is looking his best and in record time on it, even though it seems to be trying to kill him ( http://www.boards2go.com/boards/board.cgi?action=read&id=1398123105.49723&user=tfannon&page=2 ) . It will be interesting to watch, because in addition to his "Option D" fame on Getbig, Mimnaugh isn't known for lying, etc....
Title: Re: Dosages verses Gains??
Post by: Simple Simon on April 27, 2014, 06:25:42 AM
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Just wanted to post this here for posterity's sake, it's Billy Mimnaugh's current stack -

and here he is.

(http://asp.elitefts.net/images/upload/qa/Competition%20progress%20004.jpg)


Title: Re: Dosages verses Gains??
Post by: wolfrittner on April 27, 2014, 06:29:26 AM
The best thing that anyone could do is to use as much gear as they need to keep gaining or to stay anabolic.

In other words,get the most out of the least.

More is usually not better, and oftentimes,not needed,unless your next show is the Olympia.
Words of wisdom that might save your life also!!
Title: Re: Dosages verses Gains??
Post by: BB on April 27, 2014, 06:31:23 AM
In those pics, he was around 3 grams a week, if/when new pics are posted, I'll post them.
Title: Re: Dosages verses Gains??
Post by: bigmc on April 27, 2014, 06:34:41 AM
and here he is.

(http://asp.elitefts.net/images/upload/qa/Competition%20progress%20004.jpg)




there are a shit load of guys in my gym that are way better than that
Title: Re: Dosages verses Gains??
Post by: wolfrittner on April 27, 2014, 06:39:40 AM
and here he is.

(http://asp.elitefts.net/images/upload/qa/Competition%20progress%20004.jpg)



What is wrong with those People? Did they really just not get enough attention when they were children? I mean look at that distorted "Thing"! Why spending all that money and have nothing to show?
People who take  reasonable amounts or even the the low side, like No One or Wes, look so much better and healthier! Plus those high dosage users are a real danger to the young an up coming Athletes!
Title: Re: Dosages verses Gains??
Post by: Simple Simon on April 27, 2014, 06:49:16 AM
What is wrong with those People? Did they really just not get enough attention when they were children? I mean look at that distorted "Thing"! Why spending all that money and have nothing to show?
People who take  reasonable amounts or even the the low side, like No One or Wes, look so much better and healthier! Plus those high dosage users are a real danger to the young an up coming Athletes!
250mgs a week of test e.
(http://s27.postimg.org/bg396g4kz/ggttt.jpg)
Title: Re: Dosages verses Gains??
Post by: wes on April 27, 2014, 06:54:10 AM
Just wanted to post this here for posterity's sake, it's Billy Mimnaugh's current stack -


"Blood pressure is perfect.
Cycle
5,000 test
1200 tren
1200 masterone
1000 deca
1000 anadrol
Proviron 200 a day
Arimidex-50 a day
T3-100 micrograms a day
Synthroid-150 micrograms a day
50 nolvadex
Also injecting melantan 2.
Will be adding anavar and winny as well as letrozole"

Claims that he is looking his best and in record time on it, even though it seems to be trying to kill him ( http://www.boards2go.com/boards/board.cgi?action=read&id=1398123105.49723&user=tfannon&page=2 ) . It will be interesting to watch, because in addition to his "Option D" fame on Getbig, Mimnaugh isn't known for lying, etc....
I know Billy IRL,good guy,but that cycle is insane.

He would look just as good or better with far less

5000 mgs Test = WTF ???

The rest I won`t comment on only to say that at some point,there is a point of diminishing returns.  :(
Title: Re: Dosages verses Gains??
Post by: wes on April 27, 2014, 06:55:05 AM
250mgs a week of test e.
(http://s27.postimg.org/bg396g4kz/ggttt.jpg)
Fucking impressive  !
Title: Re: Dosages verses Gains??
Post by: Rascal full on April 27, 2014, 07:10:37 AM
250mgs a week of test e.
(http://s27.postimg.org/bg396g4kz/ggttt.jpg)
If that's true very impressive.
Title: Re: Dosages verses Gains??
Post by: wolfrittner on April 27, 2014, 07:16:36 AM
250mgs a week of test e.
(http://s27.postimg.org/bg396g4kz/ggttt.jpg)
Go figure! I believe it ! it looks like real muscle tissue from hard work and diet! We here in Austria call it the old school look!
Title: Re: Dosages verses Gains??
Post by: wolfrittner on April 27, 2014, 07:17:10 AM
250mgs a week of test e.
(http://s27.postimg.org/bg396g4kz/ggttt.jpg)
that you simon?
Title: Re: Dosages verses Gains??
Post by: _aj_ on April 27, 2014, 08:09:54 AM
Just wanted to post this here for posterity's sake, it's Billy Mimnaugh's current stack -


"Blood pressure is perfect.
Cycle
5,000 test
1200 tren
1200 masterone
1000 deca
1000 anadrol
Proviron 200 a day
Arimidex-50 a day
T3-100 micrograms a day
Synthroid-150 micrograms a day
50 nolvadex
Also injecting melantan 2.
Will be adding anavar and winny as well as letrozole"

Claims that he is looking his best and in record time on it, even though it seems to be trying to kill him ( http://www.boards2go.com/boards/board.cgi?action=read&id=1398123105.49723&user=tfannon&page=2 ) . It will be interesting to watch, because in addition to his "Option D" fame on Getbig, Mimnaugh isn't known for lying, etc....

Excellent idea to heave the Letro on that pile. I predict a lot of hospital time in the future.
Title: Re: Dosages verses Gains??
Post by: _aj_ on April 27, 2014, 08:11:02 AM
250mgs a week of test e.
(http://s27.postimg.org/bg396g4kz/ggttt.jpg)

Hmmm, same dose and would be STOKED to look like that.
Title: Re: Dosages verses Gains??
Post by: a_pupil on April 27, 2014, 08:45:18 AM
.5cc shot of test e with 2 or 3 days between each shot is all the average gym rat needs (if no injects, 30-40 mg of dbol per day)
Title: Re: Dosages verses Gains??
Post by: Darren Avey on April 27, 2014, 09:02:35 AM
That really you SImon? If so bloody hell that's impreesive
Title: Re: Dosages verses Gains??
Post by: Mawse on April 27, 2014, 11:04:22 AM
Lol, good old billy mimtard ... There's someone who gives esf a run for his money in the Darwin awards , epic waste of gear.

I can't begin to fathom how sick you would feel taking "just" 20 x as much test as I use... Never mind all the other idiocy piled on top of that.
Title: Re: Dosages verses Gains??
Post by: cephissus on April 27, 2014, 11:13:36 AM
250mgs a week of test e.
(http://s27.postimg.org/bg396g4kz/ggttt.jpg)

easily attainable naturally, according to most industry experts

;D
Title: Re: Dosages verses Gains??
Post by: Simple Simon on April 27, 2014, 11:16:07 AM
easily attainable naturally, according to most industry experts

;D
According to some people 250mgs is just over natty production.


Yeah , right.
Title: Re: Dosages verses Gains??
Post by: Van_Bilderass on April 27, 2014, 01:55:16 PM
LOL, Billy Mimnaugh, what a psycho. :D


I know Billy IRL,good guy,but that cycle is insane.

He would look just as good or better with far less

5000 mgs Test = WTF ???

The rest I won`t comment on only to say that at some point,there is a point of diminishing returns.  :(

Did you experiment with higher doses for your last show? I somehow got that impression. How did it go?