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Title: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: Marty Champions on April 26, 2014, 06:26:16 PM
everytime they "say" they put in a new carbureator, i actually got my hands on some ethanol free gas this time, so i mowed about 50 foot of grass and it died out again. it fired up great seemed wide the fuck open i was happy then it was puttering and reving up and down then quit

now i could keep takeing it back and my warrenty is about the run out in 1 month. or what else can i do , should i increase the spark gap on the spark plug? ive tried talking to sears managers and no help there either
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: visualizeperfection on April 26, 2014, 06:27:47 PM
You could always try eating a steak.
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on April 26, 2014, 06:28:49 PM
buy  a honda next time
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: Icelord on April 26, 2014, 06:29:57 PM
Is this a seated mower or a regular one? If it's not a seater, just buy a new one.
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: Marty Champions on April 26, 2014, 06:32:07 PM
im gonna get mechanic in a bottle that mr nobody recoomened
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: The Ugly on April 26, 2014, 06:34:33 PM
Why is say in quotes?
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: Marty Champions on April 26, 2014, 06:37:16 PM
Why is say in quotes?
because i dont beleive what they say

i really think sears has gone to shit or atleast the fucks that repair the mowers probably a bunch of good for nothins
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: The Ugly on April 26, 2014, 06:40:48 PM
because i dont beleive what they say

i really think sears has gone to shit or atleast the fucks that repair the mowers probably a bunch of good for nothins

Ok, understood. No troll, but not really what quotations are for.

Nevermind.
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: Parker on April 26, 2014, 06:43:26 PM
buy  a honda next time
Exactly, buy a Honda.
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: polychronopolous on April 26, 2014, 06:57:29 PM
Check to see if it has any gas in it.
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: Marty Champions on April 26, 2014, 07:17:53 PM
what about taking off the muffler, since an enjine is basically an air mover maybe the mufflers restricted
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: Marty Champions on April 26, 2014, 07:27:05 PM
i just took off the muffler seems to be running like a champ , ive never heard that mentioned before till i saw someone make a short post about it. nice little blue flame comeing out, ill keep you guys updated on how the mower runs without a muffler bros
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: Grape Ape on April 26, 2014, 07:32:10 PM
Learned not to buy craftsman anything awhile ago.  Toro/Honda/Echo etc are worth the extra $.
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: Marty Champions on April 26, 2014, 07:35:18 PM
Learned not to buy craftsman anything awhile ago.  Toro/Honda/Echo etc are worth the extra $.
but motors just need a few basic things to run off of air, feul compression spark

you see they never mentioned anything about the muffler at the sears repair store the whole time theyve been putting on new carbureators , are they really this stupid? its not like ive been paying for anything either all under warranty just a hassel. now i just want to learn what the muffler is supposed to do, is the muffler even essential?

my muffler on my truck is half torn off and still runs like a champ no problem there
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: Parker on April 26, 2014, 07:35:40 PM
i just took off the muffler seems to be running like a champ , ive never heard that mentioned before till i saw someone make a short post about it. nice little blue flame comeing out, ill keep you guys updated on how the mower runs without a muffler bros
Maybe that is the answer as to why not remove the muffler.
I'm guessing you want to burn something or someone?
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: Slik on April 26, 2014, 07:56:46 PM
but motors just need a few basic things to run off of air, feul compression spark

you see they never mentioned anything about the muffler at the sears repair store the whole time theyve been putting on new carbureators , are they really this stupid? its not like ive been paying for anything either all under warranty just a hassel. now i just want to learn what the muffler is supposed to do, is the muffler even essential?

my muffler on my truck is half torn off and still runs like a champ no problem there
yo. Does your mower sit in a humid area all the time?  Did u just start it up for the first time in a while. Has it sat all winter?  U didn't give much info but if it's a rider pop the hood. Unscrew the cheese grater cover over the fan n take off the cover beneath look for the fly wheel. It'll be right under the spinning aluminum fan. Look for a part that has wires going to it his a small square blocky looking two inch by one inch part. There's a GAp between it n the flywheel. This parts called the magneto. Unbolt it n hit it with emery cloth till it's shiny. Then hit your flywheel w emery cloth till it's shiny too. Presto. Prolly isn't your carb if it's been reolced five time.
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: Slik on April 26, 2014, 07:58:21 PM
Shouldn't have to take the muffler off
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: Marty Champions on April 26, 2014, 08:02:03 PM
yo. Does your mower sit in a humid area all the time?  Did u just start it up for the first time in a while. Has it sat all winter?  U didn't give much info but if it's a rider pop the hood. Unscrew the cheese grater cover over the fan n take off the cover beneath look for the fly wheel. It'll be right under the spinning aluminum fan. Look for a part that has wires going to it his a small square blocky looking two inch by one inch part. There's a GAp between it n the flywheel. This parts called the magneto. Unbolt it n hit it with emery cloth till it's shiny. Then hit your flywheel w emery cloth till it's shiny too. Presto. Prolly isn't your carb if it's been reolced five time.

thanks man its a pushmower not self propelled. i had the mower winterized with sea foam and high quality gas then cranked it , and it was running rough then took it too the shop last week, got it back today and started running rough after 50 feet of grass mowed then finally quit

so should i do this as u suggested ?
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: Marty Champions on April 26, 2014, 08:35:52 PM
yo. Does your mower sit in a humid area all the time?  Did u just start it up for the first time in a while. Has it sat all winter?  U didn't give much info but if it's a rider pop the hood. Unscrew the cheese grater cover over the fan n take off the cover beneath look for the fly wheel. It'll be right under the spinning aluminum fan. Look for a part that has wires going to it his a small square blocky looking two inch by one inch part. There's a GAp between it n the flywheel. This parts called the magneto. Unbolt it n hit it with emery cloth till it's shiny. Then hit your flywheel w emery cloth till it's shiny too. Presto. Prolly isn't your carb if it's been reolced five time.
hey bro its a push mower should i polish the magneto?
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: Parker on April 26, 2014, 08:50:48 PM
but motors just need a few basic things to run off of air, feul compression spark

you see they never mentioned anything about the muffler at the sears repair store the whole time theyve been putting on new carbureators , are they really this stupid? its not like ive been paying for anything either all under warranty just a hassel. now i just want to learn what the muffler is supposed to do, is the muffler even essential?

my muffler on my truck is half torn off and still runs like a champ no problem there
If you have emissions test in NC, has your truck passed it?
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: wolfrittner on April 26, 2014, 08:55:40 PM
have tried putting in fuel? ::) ::)
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: Slik on April 26, 2014, 08:57:54 PM
hey bro its a push mower should i polish the magneto?
no. Thot it was a tractor. Go ahead n polish ur magneto anyway if u think it will help
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: Marty Champions on April 26, 2014, 09:00:54 PM
no. Thot it was a tractor. Go ahead n polish ur magneto anyway if u think it will help
i dont know what else would help , but this is definitly a new idea for me so thanks
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: Slik on April 26, 2014, 09:12:23 PM
i dont know what else would help , but this is definitly a new idea for me so thanks
it will most likely work. Dumbshit tractor mechanics misdiagnose this all the time. On a sissy push mower haha its ez to find. Its like a half hour job. Take the shroud off the top. Follow your spark plug wire back n there's a piece that is what I'm talking about on a tractor but will be smaller on you push. Take it off. Usually two screws. Clean the flywheel with metal sand paper Emory cloth. Clean the magneto w it too. Put the part back on. Use a thin piece of card board or business card as a gap guide between the part n flywheel wen u put in back on. U usually won't even need a guide cuz it'll seat where faggy craftsman company intended it to sit. I fn hate craftsman mowers n tractors even though I have an old one. Have a deere tho too. Let me know.
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: Roger Bacon on April 26, 2014, 09:16:11 PM
i just took off the muffler seems to be running like a champ , ive never heard that mentioned before till i saw someone make a short post about it. nice little blue flame comeing out, ill keep you guys updated on how the mower runs without a muffler bros

Too much restriction, don't need a muffler anyway. Get some of that there startin fluid.
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: Roger Bacon on April 26, 2014, 09:17:24 PM
but motors just need a few basic things to run off of air, feul compression spark

you see they never mentioned anything about the muffler at the sears repair store the whole time theyve been putting on new carbureators , are they really this stupid? its not like ive been paying for anything either all under warranty just a hassel. now i just want to learn what the muffler is supposed to do, is the muffler even essential?

my muffler on my truck is half torn off and still runs like a champ no problem there

Might need the back pressure if it's a two cycle, other than that... fuck the muffler. get some ear plugs
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: Parker on April 26, 2014, 09:23:05 PM
Might need the back pressure if it's a two cycle, other than that... fuck the muffler. get some ear plugs
or go on Craigslist and get someone's used Honda mower.
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: Roger Bacon on April 26, 2014, 09:24:33 PM
or go on Craigslist and get someone's used Honda mower.

That's not redneck approved!  :D
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: Nails on April 26, 2014, 09:28:06 PM
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: The True Adonis on April 26, 2014, 09:33:54 PM
everytime they "say" they put in a new carbureator, i actually got my hands on some ethanol free gas this time, so i mowed about 50 foot of grass and it died out again. it fired up great seemed wide the fuck open i was happy then it was puttering and reving up and down then quit

now i could keep takeing it back and my warrenty is about the run out in 1 month. or what else can i do , should i increase the spark gap on the spark plug? ive tried talking to sears managers and no help there either
Johnny,

I posted about this last year as well.  Mine was taken in 4 times and never fixed right.  In fact, I got it back and the next day bolts were flying off of my Craftsman.  I spent hours on the phone with customer service to no real avail.  Worst brand ever.  I took it apart myself and realized the whole thing was fucked.

I went ahead and bought a nice Troy-Bilt with a Honda engine and no carburetor. Expensive, but its the best mower I have ever had.  Starts every single time with one gentle pull, no need for priming or anything. 
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: The True Adonis on April 26, 2014, 09:34:53 PM
everytime they "say" they put in a new carbureator, i actually got my hands on some ethanol free gas this time, so i mowed about 50 foot of grass and it died out again. it fired up great seemed wide the fuck open i was happy then it was puttering and reving up and down then quit

now i could keep takeing it back and my warrenty is about the run out in 1 month. or what else can i do , should i increase the spark gap on the spark plug? ive tried talking to sears managers and no help there either
Also, maake sure you are always adding fuel stabilizer. 
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: Roger Bacon on April 26, 2014, 09:35:33 PM
Honda engine and no carburetor

???

Fuel injection?
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: The True Adonis on April 26, 2014, 09:40:44 PM
???

Fuel injection?
Oops, I meant no choke/ Auto Choke.
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: Roger Bacon on April 26, 2014, 09:43:37 PM
Oops, I meant no choke/ Auto Choke.

Ah, sounds good.

You're right about the stabilizer especially. One winter without it, or even a month in some cases and you're carburetor is clogged. Needle valve gets clogged/jammed solid.
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: The True Adonis on April 26, 2014, 09:47:15 PM
Ah, sounds good.

You're right about the stabilizer especially. One winter without it, or even a month in some cases and you're carburetor is clogged. Needle valve gets clogged/jammed solid.
I had a brand new Stihl trimmer and I left just a little bit of gas in it for two weeks and the Carb was shot.  I ordered a new one and replaced it myself.  Learned my lesson to get everything out and never leave a drop in.
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: Roger Bacon on April 26, 2014, 09:49:41 PM
I had a brand new Stihl trimmer and I left just a little bit of gas in it for two weeks and the Carb was shot.  I ordered a new one and replaced it myself.  Learned my lesson to get everything out and never leave a drop in.

I wouldn't even mind being a slave at the adonis plantation. Good food and nice power equipment.  ;D
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: Marty Champions on April 27, 2014, 04:54:46 AM
ive always used stabalizer i just gotta take this /\/igger apart and see what i can do with the magneto
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: Marty Champions on April 27, 2014, 04:56:41 AM
I had a brand new Stihl trimmer and I left just a little bit of gas in it for two weeks and the Carb was shot.  I ordered a new one and replaced it myself.  Learned my lesson to get everything out and never leave a drop in.
that der ethanol gas shit, luckily i got me a source of that ethanol free gas. ive had those little bulbs crack and leak because of ethanol shit
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: Marty Champions on April 27, 2014, 04:58:59 AM
it will most likely work. Dumbshit tractor mechanics misdiagnose this all the time. On a sissy push mower haha its ez to find. Its like a half hour job. Take the shroud off the top. Follow your spark plug wire back n there's a piece that is what I'm talking about on a tractor but will be smaller on you push. Take it off. Usually two screws. Clean the flywheel with metal sand paper Emory cloth. Clean the magneto w it too. Put the part back on. Use a thin piece of card board or business card as a gap guide between the part n flywheel wen u put in back on. U usually won't even need a guide cuz it'll seat where faggy craftsman company intended it to sit. I fn hate craftsman mowers n tractors even though I have an old one. Have a deere tho too. Let me know.
great will do this

i would think i could just turn the fly wheel and clean it like that rather than taking off the part the  with the spark plug peice attached to it, but am gonna do it bro
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 27, 2014, 05:05:37 AM
Hurry its going to rain tomorrow for a couple of days.
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: Slik on April 27, 2014, 05:56:29 AM
great will do this

i would think i could just turn the fly wheel and clean it like that rather than taking off the part the  with the spark plug peice attached to it, but am gonna do it bro
no. The magneto doesn't touch the flywheel. There's a paper thin gap. Its just two screws usually. Clean both surfaces. Flywheel n magneto. If it doesn't work get a honda. My power washer, n other mower is honda. U can treat em like shit n they run forever. Had to do a carb clean once on the power washer but that's it. Left gas in it. Wen storing for winter f the stabilizer. Turn your mower upside down drain the gas. Then start it till it quits to run the carb dry
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: hrspwr1 on April 27, 2014, 06:15:08 AM
make sure the little vent hole in the gas cap is clear. little shit like vacuum lock in a fuel system can cause exactly what you are describing.
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: Marty Champions on April 27, 2014, 06:16:52 AM
ok i think i have an idea its one of those throttle springs. not the spring on the side of the pull cord where you grab the metal latch that activates the lawnmower but on the other side of the motor after i removed the top casing it seems to not hold still its a real tiny thin spring . it seems to control a pivot thing or an armature i guess thats the trottle peice, because when i push it with that screw drive and hold that peice in place the motor is wide open and strong like a champ, but when when i let it run on its own its wavering, so maybe need to wrap it just right with a clothes hanger
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: Marty Champions on April 27, 2014, 06:18:14 AM
make sure the little vent hole in the gas cap is clear. little shit like vacuum lock in a fuel system can cause exactly what you are describing.

funny you mention that when i bought this mower and mowers in the past they had those tiny fuck holes in the gas cap, im like what in the /\/igger fuck is this, i talked to the manager and they put a normal cap on, i said what kinda asshole thought of putting holes in the gas cap because all kinds of dirt can fly into it
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: oldtimer1 on April 27, 2014, 06:47:46 AM
I have a Toro. It sits all winter in Jersey and it starts on three pulls after sitting for 7-8 months. If you live in a winter region the gas in the tank and in the carb will go bad because of the corn alcohol in it. Best to run the mower dry for it's last use. The gas today goes bad in 2-3 months, so no old gas.
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: Archer77 on April 27, 2014, 06:50:48 AM
I have a Toro. It sits all winter in Jersey and it starts on three pulls after sitting for 7-8 months. If you live in a winter region the gas in the tank and in the carb will go bad because of the corn alcohol in it. Best to run the mower dry for it's last use. The gas today goes bad in 2-3 months, so no old gas.

Great advices.  I was going to post pretty much the same thing.  I learned this lesson and I always empty the tank before the winter and run the mower dry before I put it away.
Title: Re: ok this is the 5th time ive sent in my craftsman mower need help
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 27, 2014, 09:21:03 AM
Ethanol is behind all these issues.