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Title: help me out falcons good manual labor strenth advices needed
Post by: Marty Champions on May 04, 2014, 05:42:13 PM
ok been very busy no time to make music or even lift running into all sorts of new shit i havent done before. i am the only afro american does the job for cheap but gotta do it right

now i had to remove the tub spout because it was fuck up had sharp edges n shit. i couldnt twist it off. so i had to take my grinder to it . as you can see here i got it down to the point where the nut from the spout is threaded onto the copper male end here. but i cant turn the nut or that copper would break, that thread is no good either since i dug into it somewhat with the grinder

now how am i gonna take that out and replace with a brand new threaded end. do i cut it off right at the end of the copper pipe that goes into the threaded peice ? but if i did that then but another threaded adapter end on it would be too short

im guessing maybe i should cut it further back solder on some copper then solder a female/male adapter?

(http://i60.tinypic.com/157kun5.jpg)
Title: Re: help me out falcons good manual labor strenth advices needed
Post by: Marty Champions on May 04, 2014, 05:52:51 PM
im gonna have to solder twice right guys? i gotta hurry up and do this before the copper gets stolen!

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/honigga/157kun5dd_zpsff7a7cc9.jpg)
Title: Re: help me out falcons good manual labor strenth advices needed
Post by: TEMPER on May 04, 2014, 06:02:12 PM
Heat it with a torch and unscrew it.

If that doesn't work, just cut it and rethread the new end.
Title: Re: help me out falcons good manual labor strenth advices needed
Post by: Marty Champions on May 04, 2014, 06:11:17 PM
Heat it with a torch and unscrew it.

If that doesn't work, just cut it and rethread the new end.

a torch wont work any torque will damage further

so if i cut the pipe, do they have a compression fitting i can slide over the copper with a threaded end for the new tub spout?
Title: Re: help me out falcons good manual labor strenth advices needed
Post by: wolfrittner on May 04, 2014, 06:16:05 PM
Heat it with a torch and unscrew it.

If that doesn't work, just cut it and rethread the new end.
Bingo! This man knows his shit.
Title: Re: help me out falcons good manual labor strenth advices needed
Post by: TEMPER on May 04, 2014, 06:51:21 PM
a torch wont work any torque will damage further

so if i cut the pipe, do they have a compression fitting i can slide over the copper with a threaded end for the new tub spout?

You could go with a straight male compression fitting though many guys would prefer not use a compression fitting on something like that for whatever reason. I don't think it matters I think they just like the peace of mind that comes with solder.

 
Title: Re: help me out falcons good manual labor strenth advices needed
Post by: Roger Bacon on May 04, 2014, 06:55:40 PM
ok been very busy no time to make music or even lift running into all sorts of new shit i havent done before. i am the only afro american does the job for cheap but gotta do it right

now i had to remove the tub spout because it was fuck up had sharp edges n shit. i couldnt twist it off. so i had to take my grinder to it . as you can see here i got it down to the point where the nut from the spout is threaded onto the copper male end here. but i cant turn the nut or that copper would break, that thread is no good either since i dug into it somewhat with the grinder

now how am i gonna take that out and replace with a brand new threaded end. do i cut it off right at the end of the copper pipe that goes into the threaded peice ? but if i did that then but another threaded adapter end on it would be too short

im guessing maybe i should cut it further back solder on some copper then solder a female/male adapter?

(http://i60.tinypic.com/157kun5.jpg)


Melt solder and remove threaded fitting. Clean, flux and solder on new fitting.

(http://www.thepipefittings.com/gifs/copper-pipe-fittings3.jpg)
Title: Re: help me out falcons good manual labor strenth advices needed
Post by: Marty Champions on May 04, 2014, 07:08:52 PM
Melt solder and remove threaded fitting. Clean, flux and solder on new fitting.

(http://www.thepipefittings.com/gifs/copper-pipe-fittings3.jpg)

cool i wasnt aware that i could melt the solder will try that i appreaciate the advices thrown around here i really do
Title: Re: help me out falcons good manual labor strenth advices needed
Post by: Tapeworm on May 04, 2014, 07:36:02 PM
Youve do a lot of work there you should be very proud.  Removing the buggered end and refitting a new end is probably the proper fix.  I'd be tempted to do it improperly and just try to make good the thread enough that it'll take a new fitting and bung that baby full of thread tape or something.  Thread files are cheap.  Maybe a tap & die set would be worth owning if you're doing a lot of plumbing and hopefully not too expensive at domestic sizes.  (Ask for pipe thread set since machine threads are different.)

Can't tell if the shiny spot is totally removed thread tho.  You couldn't have done that with a grinder surely.  You can't try to counter-torque with that other hexed portion if you try to heat & remove?  This will require the use of two simultaneous wrenches however.  Sim wrenches.  They turn in opposite directions so some folks call 'em opposite wrenches.  On account of they fight against eachother the old timers used to call em cock wrenches after the yard birds.  Find the old man in the back of the tool shop and tell him you're in the market for a good quality set of cock wrenches.  He'll know what you mean.
Title: Re: help me out falcons good manual labor strenth advices needed
Post by: Marty Champions on May 04, 2014, 08:16:06 PM
Youve do a lot of work there you should be very proud.  Removing the buggered end and refitting a new end is probably the proper fix.  I'd be tempted to do it improperly and just try to make good the thread enough that it'll take a new fitting and bung that baby full of thread tape or something.  Thread files are cheap.  Maybe a tap & die set would be worth owning if you're doing a lot of plumbing and hopefully not too expensive at domestic sizes.  (Ask for pipe thread set since machine threads are different.)

Can't tell if the shiny spot is totally removed thread tho.  You couldn't have done that with a grinder surely.  You can't try to counter-torque with that other hexed portion if you try to heat & remove?  This will require the use of two simultaneous wrenches however.  Sim wrenches.  They turn in opposite directions so some folks call 'em opposite wrenches.  On account of they fight against eachother the old timers used to call em cock wrenches after the yard birds.  Find the old man in the back of the tool shop and tell him you're in the market for a good quality set of cock wrenches.  He'll know what you mean.

sorry my mistake ive yet to heat up that solderd section of the threaded end. it just seemed like it wouldnt work, ok then maybe it will work  :)

i wish i didnt have to buy new stems and one diverter all are broken at the ends by the faucet handle ( i tried heating it up then pulling off they just broke off unfortunatley)

have no clue what a cock wrench is never seen or heard of one cant find a pic of one either. tommorrow i will heat up that little neegur and hope it comes off without a hitch
Title: Re: help me out falcons good manual labor strenth advices needed
Post by: Tapeworm on May 04, 2014, 08:26:19 PM
By the time it was all done I'd probably have a section of garden hose sticking out of the wall and hang a sign on it saying BE CAREFUL WITH THIS.  I liked the sketch a lot tho.  It made me slightly less confused.