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Title: Anti-apartheid movement founder died after racism row attack
Post by: Roger Bacon on May 12, 2014, 02:13:13 AM
How ironic...

Anti-apartheid movement founder died after racism row attack
A pensioner who helped found the anti-apartheid movement died after he was knocked over in a row by a man who accused him of being racist, a court hears

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Marcus Jean, left, is appearing at Kingston Crown Court Photo: CENTRAL/ALAMY

By James Edgar

10:13AM BST 07 May 2014

A Second World War veteran who helped found the Anti-Apartheid Movement died after being knocked to the ground by a man who accused him of making a racist remark, a court has heard.

Murray Wrobel, an intelligence linguist in a clandestine unit known as “Churchill’s Secret Army”, was 91 when he was shoved over by Marcus Jean after complaining that his bicycle was blocking a trolley rack outside a supermarket, it is alleged.

Jean, 31, is accused of hurling a tirade of abuse at the pensioner, telling him: “You and your kind should have been dead a long time ago.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10813161/Anti-apartheid-movement-founder-died-after-racism-row-attack-court-told.html
Title: Re: Anti-apartheid movement founder died after racism row attack
Post by: Ken Fresno on May 12, 2014, 02:40:38 AM
Typical int linguist weiner, dies after being shoved.

If he had tried that with a real soldier the dusky chap would've been waking up with a crowd around him
Title: Re: Anti-apartheid movement founder died after racism row attack
Post by: agenda21nwo on May 12, 2014, 02:43:15 AM
He gave equality to black Africans.  He reaped his reward.
Title: Re: Anti-apartheid movement founder died after racism row attack
Post by: Griffith on May 12, 2014, 04:57:53 AM
So one of the founders of the 'anti-Apartheid movement' worked for British intelligence.

No surprises there.
Title: Re: Anti-apartheid movement founder died after racism row attack
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 12, 2014, 05:33:12 AM
Animals. 
Title: Re: Anti-apartheid movement founder died after racism row attack
Post by: wolfrittner on May 12, 2014, 05:41:26 AM
Im sure the guy didn't want to kill him. He was just pissed being told what to do. People say all sorts of shit when they are angry.
It could have been easily just the other way around. But now it turned serious.
Title: Re: Anti-apartheid movement founder died after racism row attack
Post by: Griffith on May 12, 2014, 07:28:15 AM
Im sure the guy didn't want to kill him. He was just pissed being told what to do. People say all sorts of shit when they are angry.
It could have been easily just the other way around. But now it turned serious.

There's no excuse for that kind of behaviour.
Title: Re: Anti-apartheid movement founder died after racism row attack
Post by: Lustral on May 12, 2014, 08:10:02 AM
Good to see he's on crutches from a police beatdown.

Hard to play the race card in this one, though I'm sure he'll try.
Title: Re: Anti-apartheid movement founder died after racism row attack
Post by: Roger Bacon on May 12, 2014, 12:32:44 PM
Will the entire first world go the way of South Africa?
Title: Re: Anti-apartheid movement founder died after racism row attack
Post by: Icelord on May 12, 2014, 12:37:17 PM
Good.

South Africa in 1985 and South Africa today are all the proof you need giving power to the plebeian masses doesn't work.

As for the old fart, that's typical. I posted a link in another thread where a 93-year-old woman was shot for waving a gun at a cop. What is it about old people that makes them think they have the right to bully and threaten people and get away with it?

Oh, I know. It's the liberal cock-sucking court system that puts people in prison for standing up to them. Right.
Title: Re: Anti-apartheid movement founder died after racism row attack
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on May 12, 2014, 12:40:41 PM
The options for black africans are these:
Live in poverty under white leadership, or live in WORSE poverty and squalor under black leadership  :D
Title: Re: Anti-apartheid movement founder died after racism row attack
Post by: Icelord on May 12, 2014, 12:47:30 PM
The options for black africans are these:
Live in poverty under white leadership, or live in WORSE poverty and squalor under black leadership  :D
At least with the first, you can blame white people for everything. Now what?
Title: Re: Anti-apartheid movement founder died after racism row attack
Post by: Lustral on May 12, 2014, 12:49:04 PM
The options for black africans are these:
Live in poverty under white leadership, or live in WORSE poverty and squalor under black leadership  :D

Or join the ANC, discriminate against white people, take bribes, rule incompetently and, in Zuma's case, spend £20m+ of public money on your own private house then try to ban newspapers printing photos of it.

Then get away with it all because you're black and Nelson Mandela and blah blah blah. Look at what Mugabe did to whites and their economy? Kicked the white farmers out and the bread basket of Africa became hungry.
Title: Re: Anti-apartheid movement founder died after racism row attack
Post by: bradistani on May 12, 2014, 12:51:13 PM
Good to see he's on crutches from a police beatdown.

Hard to play the race card in this one, though I'm sure he'll try.

but he did  ???

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A Second World War veteran who helped found the Anti-Apartheid Movement died after being knocked to the ground by a man who accused him of making a racist remark, a court has heard.

Title: Re: Anti-apartheid movement founder died after racism row attack
Post by: Icelord on May 12, 2014, 12:57:42 PM
Or join the ANC, discriminate against white people, take bribes, rule incompetently and, in Zuma's case, spend £20m+ of public money on your own private house then try to ban newspapers printing photos of it.

Then get away with it all because you're black and Nelson Mandela and blah blah blah. Look at what Mugabe did to whites and their economy? Kicked the white farmers out and the bread basket of Africa became hungry.
Every African country is ruled by black leaders. How's that going?
Title: Re: Anti-apartheid movement founder died after racism row attack
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on May 12, 2014, 12:58:57 PM
Or join the ANC, discriminate against white people, take bribes, rule incompetently and, in Zuma's case, spend £20m+ of public money on your own private house then try to ban newspapers printing photos of it.

Then get away with it all because you're black and Nelson Mandela and blah blah blah. Look at what Mugabe did to whites and their economy? Kicked the white farmers out and the bread basket of Africa became hungry.

The continent of africa has been proving for millenia that(to the dismay of utopian/diversity-minded libs everywhere) there truly ARE not -insignificant difference between certain races....
Title: Re: Anti-apartheid movement founder died after racism row attack
Post by: Lustral on May 12, 2014, 01:09:05 PM
The continent of africa has been proving for millenia that(to the dismay of utopian/diversity-minded libs everywhere) there truly ARE not -insignificant difference between certain races....

Confusing syntax but you are saying there are significant differences?

I agree that there are. Some stereotypes are misguided or plain wrong, others are, for cultural or racial reasons, fairly accurate. In general blacks have big cocks and make good athletes, asians study hard and prefer maths/science and whites are good leaders. Say the first two, noone blinks an eye, say the latter and you're degrading other races.

@Bradistani, I know he played race card at the time, but it is hard to say someone was racist when they campaigned for black rights.
Title: Re: Anti-apartheid movement founder died after racism row attack
Post by: Roger Bacon on May 12, 2014, 01:12:57 PM
There were no blacks in South Africa when whites settles there. Correct me if I'm wrong, but black people moved there illegally for a century and than expected to be given a place in a society that in no way did they own a share in?

The rest of the world bullied South Africa relentlessly until they were forced to turn the country their ancestors built over to black Africans?

Was there more at play here? Mineral rights?
Title: Re: Anti-apartheid movement founder died after racism row attack
Post by: Icelord on May 12, 2014, 01:13:45 PM
There were no blacks in South Africa when whites settles there. Correct me if I'm wrong, but black people moved there illegally for a century and than expected to be given a place in a society that in no way did they own a share in?

The rest of the world bullied South Africa relentlessly until they were forced to turn the country their ancestors built over to black Africans?

Was there more at play here? Mineral rights?
There were blacks used as manual laborers. Other than that, the country was mostly empty when the Dutch came in.
Title: Re: Anti-apartheid movement founder died after racism row attack
Post by: Lustral on May 12, 2014, 01:20:12 PM
There were blacks used as manual laborers. Other than that, the country was mostly empty when the Dutch came in.

How they treated black people was wrong, there was no opportunity for social mobility and discriminatory laws. The problem is it has now gone to the other extreme. Apartheid SA still used a model based on the British legal system that provided courts with integrity. Mandela was a terrorist, plain and simple, but an impartial court decided not to execute him despite him being about to plant bombs. The new leaders don't recognise that some systems in place should have survived the transition and have instead turned SA into just another despotic and corrupt African regime with massive inequality and poverty, just that now the white suffer poverty and discrimination too.
Title: Re: Anti-apartheid movement founder died after racism row attack
Post by: Roger Bacon on May 12, 2014, 01:21:33 PM
All first world citizens are slowly being forced to turn their countries over to outsiders who aren't capable or just religiously opposed to maintaining modern society.

Biggest news of the new millennium, completely unreported.
Title: Re: Anti-apartheid movement founder died after racism row attack
Post by: Icelord on May 12, 2014, 01:22:02 PM
All first world citizens are slowly being forced to turn their countries over to outsiders who aren't capable or just religiously opposed to maintaining modern society.

Biggest news of the new millennium, completely unreported.
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Title: Re: Anti-apartheid movement founder died after racism row attack
Post by: Roger Bacon on May 12, 2014, 01:27:26 PM
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sums it up perfectly^^^  ;D
Title: Re: Anti-apartheid movement founder died after racism row attack
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on May 12, 2014, 01:45:11 PM
All first world citizens are slowly being forced to turn their countries over to outsiders who aren't capable or just religiously opposed to maintaining modern society.

Biggest news of the new millennium, completely unreported.

Exactly
Title: Re: Anti-apartheid movement founder died after racism row attack
Post by: Roger Bacon on May 12, 2014, 02:02:31 PM
Exactly

In related news:

Controversial Book Uses Genetics to Explain Western Dominance

by Nick Hallett 12 May 2014, 8:42 AM PDT 38 post a comment

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A book claiming that genetics lies behind the rise of Western civilisation has been denounced as "racist" by some scientists.

A Troublesome Inheritance by science writer Nicholas Wade says that there is mounting evidence of genetic variations within humanity, and this these variations can have cultural and civilisational impacts, the Times reports.

Mr Wade, who wrote for the New York Times for 30 years before retiring two years ago, also says that human evolution continues to this day, rather than stopping shortly after stone age, as previously thought.

"New analyses of the human genome have established that human evolution has been recent, copious, and regional," he writes.

Examples of this change include lactose intolerance and the ability to live at high altitudes or cold climates.

Although this part of the book has been relatively well received, his claims that there are genetic differences in terms of intelligence and behaviour, and that human history can be explained partly by genetics, have caused unease among some people.

For example, Wade says that evidence from surname records shows that rich, entrepreneurial Europeans out-bred less able citizens during the Middle Ages, thus ensuring that Europe became more creative than other parts of the world.

This eventually led to the Industrial Revolution, which laid the foundations for the modern world. "The rise of the West is an event not just in history but also in human evolution," Wade writes.

Wade also writes that it was thanks to genetics that South Korea was able to heavily industrialise after the Second World War. He says that the genetic make-up of Koreans made them value hard-work, education, discipline and investment. Meanwhile, Ghana, which had a similar economy at the end of the Second World War, stagnated.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/05/12/Controversial-Book-That-Uses-Genetics-to-Explain-Western-Dominance-Denounced-as-Racist
Title: Re: Anti-apartheid movement founder died after racism row attack
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on May 12, 2014, 02:06:56 PM
Cool ive been meaning to find some books on this subject
Title: Re: Anti-apartheid movement founder died after racism row attack
Post by: Griffith on May 12, 2014, 03:18:08 PM
There were no blacks in South Africa when whites settles there. Correct me if I'm wrong, but black people moved there illegally for a century and than expected to be given a place in a society that in no way did they own a share in?

The rest of the world bullied South Africa relentlessly until they were forced to turn the country their ancestors built over to black Africans?

Was there more at play here? Mineral rights?

I think it was mainly to get access to the minerals and natural resources.
Title: Re: Anti-apartheid movement founder died after racism row attack
Post by: Lustral on May 12, 2014, 04:02:31 PM
I think it was mainly to get access to the minerals and natural resources.

An industry dominated by European/American owned MNCs where black security guards shoot black workers who protest over pay. That worked out well.
Title: Re: Anti-apartheid movement founder died after racism row attack
Post by: Griffith on May 13, 2014, 01:09:16 PM
An industry dominated by European/American owned MNCs where black security guards shoot black workers who protest over pay. That worked out well.

It actually backfired because the government can't really stop the striking workers. The Marikana Massacre didn't achieve anything.
Title: Re: Anti-apartheid movement founder died after racism row attack
Post by: Lustral on May 13, 2014, 01:55:36 PM
It actually backfired because the government can't really stop the striking workers. The Marikana Massacre didn't achieve anything.

Just a fucked country. A few dynasties will survive, foreign companies and a few South Africans will make a fortune from the mineral wealth, politicians will continue to fuck country while stealing public money and townships will grow, bloated by the addition of the white poor.

Look at what the Arabs have managed with mineral wealth. Still mostly shitholes but at least they aren't known for crime, tribal warfare and squandering money.