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Title: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 18, 2014, 03:08:19 PM
As you all know...I'm a dick and have a big mouth.  (Insert gift joke here)

Thing is I seem to have accepted a challenge from a rather large,  strong, lifelong powerlifter....to a bench press competition. We both turn 50 in June , that's kinda the crux of it.

I have no idea of his max, be seems about the same as me, probably higher max because he has way better technique.  It's friendly, he's a cool guy...but fuck that I want to win...and I'm sure he's thinking the same thing.

I'm taking Superdrol ( ha ha fuck him)  ...need some technique/training .pointers.

Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 18, 2014, 03:10:37 PM
As you all know...I'm a dick and have a big mouth.  (Insert gift joke here)

Thing is I seem to have accepted a challenge from a rather large,  strong, lifelong powerlifter....to a bench press competition. We both turn 50 in June , that's kinda the crux of it.

I have no idea of his max, be seems about the same as me, probably higher max because he has way better technique.  It's friendly, he's a cool guy...but fuck that I want to win...and I'm sure he's thinking the same thing.

I'm taking Superdrol ( ha ha fuck him)  ...need some technique/training .pointers.



And your max is?
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 18, 2014, 03:12:35 PM
And your max is?

Have no clue..this happened an hour and a half ago.. we have a month prep.
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 18, 2014, 03:13:42 PM
next pectearoff

I have a question for you?

Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 18, 2014, 03:14:10 PM
next pectearoff

I've never tore or strained a muscle in.my life...I'm not too concerned.
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: Simple Simon on May 18, 2014, 03:16:13 PM
I've never tore or strained a muscle in.my life...I'm not too concerned.
Superdrol + too heavy a weight = pec tear.

Its not worth it, you will likely look like shit for the rest of your life after that.
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: the trainer on May 18, 2014, 03:16:27 PM
As you all know...I'm a dick and have a big mouth.  (Insert gift joke here)

Thing is I seem to have accepted a challenge from a rather large,  strong, lifelong powerlifter....to a bench press competition. We both turn 50 in June , that's kinda the crux of it.

I have no idea of his max, be seems about the same as me, probably higher max because he has way better technique.  It's friendly, he's a cool guy...but fuck that I want to win...and I'm sure he's thinking the same thing.

I'm taking Superdrol ( ha ha fuck him)  ...need some technique/training .pointers.



Get two benches put fake plates on yours and real plates on his, that should teach him a lesson.
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 18, 2014, 03:20:45 PM
that would be good so we can bully him about torn tits

I Realize my arm comments cut you deeply... ;D.
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: LittleJ on May 18, 2014, 03:22:08 PM
Groink versus Coach.
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on May 18, 2014, 05:22:01 PM
The secret is in trying to "rip the bar apart" while you press. Then and only then will you be a master of this lift.
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: Chadwick The Beta on May 18, 2014, 05:23:56 PM
As you all know...I'm a dick and have a big mouth.  (Insert gift joke here)

Thing is I seem to have accepted a challenge from a rather large,  strong, lifelong powerlifter....to a bench press competition. We both turn 50 in June , that's kinda the crux of it.

I have no idea of his max, be seems about the same as me, probably higher max because he has way better technique.  It's friendly, he's a cool guy...but fuck that I want to win...and I'm sure he's thinking the same thing.

I'm taking Superdrol ( ha ha fuck him)  ...need some technique/training .pointers.



When I saw the title, I assumed you had pushed Karen too far and she challenged you to a bench contest.

Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: Lustral on May 18, 2014, 05:24:53 PM
Get two benches put fake plates on yours and real plates on his, that should teach him a lesson.

You're on to something here... cheat, but do it without chemicals. Well, with chemicals but also traditional cheating. Almost makes you natural.
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: Hulkotron on May 18, 2014, 05:26:57 PM
The secret is in trying to "rip the bar apart" while you press. Then and only then will you be a master of this lift.

Spot on
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on May 18, 2014, 05:28:22 PM
This:
Superdrol + too heavy a weight = pec tear.

Its not worth it, you will likely look like shit for the rest of your life after that.

And this:
how about you people do 225 for as many reps as possible instead

safer

more useful

equally hard challenge

Best of luck though, stay healthy
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: wes on May 18, 2014, 07:18:59 PM
You guys should train minimum 8 weeks for it Groink.......not enough time IMO.
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: _aj_ on May 18, 2014, 07:25:17 PM
The secret is in trying to "rip the bar apart" while you press. Then and only then will you be a master of this lift.

Don't forget to "push your feet through the floor"

That is also key.
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: visualizeperfection on May 18, 2014, 07:29:24 PM
I think you should also implement some Slingshot work into your bench routine.

(http://pi.b5z.net/i/u/230085/i/Sling_shot_band_for_powerlifting_weigh_tlifting_bb_ezr.jpg)

Also make sure you keeo your rep range under 5. Anything more than that its all for hypertrophy.

Lastly, make sure to eat plenty of complex/clean carbs and BCAA intraworkout supplementation.
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: _aj_ on May 18, 2014, 07:32:54 PM
Lastly, make sure to eat plenty of complex/clean carbs and BCAA intraworkout supplementation.

Complex carbs. Critical.
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: Roger Bacon on May 18, 2014, 07:37:26 PM
The secret is in trying to "rip the bar apart" while you press. Then and only then will you be a master of this lift.

Do you mean like pulling outward or pushing inward on your grip on the bar? Sounds interesting
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: _aj_ on May 18, 2014, 07:41:58 PM
Do you mean like pulling outward or pushing inward on your grip on the bar? Sounds interesting

I believe that the bullshit "cue" (oh brother) is to "rip the bar apart" on the eccentric phase of the lift. On the press, you'll "push your feet through the floor" while "squeezing your lats".

Note that none of these things is gonna get that bar off your sternum.
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: Man of Steel on May 18, 2014, 07:44:20 PM
As you all know...I'm a dick and have a big mouth.  (Insert gift joke here)

Thing is I seem to have accepted a challenge from a rather large,  strong, lifelong powerlifter....to a bench press competition. We both turn 50 in June , that's kinda the crux of it.

I have no idea of his max, be seems about the same as me, probably higher max because he has way better technique.  It's friendly, he's a cool guy...but fuck that I want to win...and I'm sure he's thinking the same thing.

I'm taking Superdrol ( ha ha fuck him)  ...need some technique/training .pointers.



You can count on me to watch both of your walkers during the challenge.
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: wes on May 18, 2014, 07:44:27 PM
Crunch scaplua together,lift chest,plant feet,press like a mofo!
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: Roger Bacon on May 18, 2014, 07:45:17 PM
Note that none of these things is gonna get that bar off your sternum.

 :D
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: The Scott on May 18, 2014, 07:46:16 PM
I think you should do the Moktar Chant of Strength.
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on May 18, 2014, 07:48:21 PM
Do you mean like pulling outward or pushing inward on your grip on the bar? Sounds interesting

I believe it is rooted in the technique for shirted bench pressing.... some of the shirts are so stiff you need to literally pull the bar to get it to touch your chest.

So newbs will listen to people like Louie Simmons or Dave Tate talk about stuff like this, not knowing that geared-lifters are the intended audience, and will attempt to apply these techniques to their own pathetic lifts
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: _aj_ on May 18, 2014, 07:58:35 PM
So newbs will listen to people like Louie Simmons or Dave Tate talk about stuff like this, not knowing that geared-lifters are the intended audience, and will attempt to apply these techniques to their own pathetic lifts

[raises hand]

That was me. I got "coached" by a Westside Louie Simmons guy. He was giving me the business about "ripping the bar apart" as I was "pulling" 135 down. I remember thinking "WTF is this guy going on about?"
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: visualizeperfection on May 18, 2014, 08:00:56 PM
[raises hand]

That was me. I got "coached" by a Westside Louie Simmons guy. He was giving me the business about "ripping the bar apart" as I was "pulling" 135 down. I remember thinking "WTF is this guy going on about?"

former delusional natural.



join the club.
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: Roger Bacon on May 18, 2014, 08:01:57 PM
I believe it is rooted in the technique for shirted bench pressing.... some of the shirts are so stiff you need to literally pull the bar to get it to touch your chest.

So newbs will listen to people like Louie Simmons or Dave Tate talk about stuff like this, not knowing that geared-lifters are the intended audience, and will attempt to apply these techniques to their own pathetic lifts

ah, okay... Thanks
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: ganero76 on May 18, 2014, 08:10:23 PM
As you all know...I'm a dick and have a big mouth.  (Insert gift joke here)

Thing is I seem to have accepted a challenge from a rather large,  strong, lifelong powerlifter....to a bench press competition. We both turn 50 in June , that's kinda the crux of it.

I have no idea of his max, be seems about the same as me, probably higher max because he has way better technique.  It's friendly, he's a cool guy...but fuck that I want to win...and I'm sure he's thinking the same thing.

I'm taking Superdrol ( ha ha fuck him)  ...need some technique/training .pointers.


Any particular reason your not taking him on in deadlift or squat? Oh that's right, I forgot....you're a fairy who doesn't train legs. That's okay. You'll still get smashed on the bench because you're a weak pussy.
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: _aj_ on May 18, 2014, 08:13:17 PM
Any particular reason your not taking him on in deadlift or squat? Oh that's right, I forgot....you're a fairy who doesn't train legs. That's okay. You'll still get smashed on the bench because you're a weak pussy.

 ::)

Didn't we go though this whole thing today with your "Powerlift" gimmick?
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on May 18, 2014, 08:15:12 PM
[raises hand]

That was me. I got "coached" by a Westside Louie Simmons guy. He was giving me the business about "ripping the bar apart" as I was "pulling" 135 down. I remember thinking "WTF is this guy going on about?"

Lol ditto....I read as many of their articles as i could and wondered why I was having a hard time benching more than 185 for a couple despite my immaculate form.  

Meanwhile all the other meatheads around me would plop down on a bench and rep out 225+ without giving it a thought.
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: wes on May 18, 2014, 08:15:57 PM
Any particular reason your not taking him on in deadlift or squat? Oh that's right, I forgot....you're a fairy who doesn't train legs. That's okay. You'll still get smashed on the bench because you're a weak pussy.
THE ORGANIZATION

Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 18, 2014, 08:45:28 PM
Groink versus Coach.

 :D
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: The True Adonis on May 18, 2014, 10:02:12 PM
Don`t forget to bring your elbows in and keep them from flaring out.  ::)

Worst fucking advice ever.
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on May 18, 2014, 10:21:37 PM
Spot on

 classic Hulkotron material  :D
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: Mawse on May 18, 2014, 10:56:52 PM
The secret is in trying to "rip the bar apart" while you press. Then and only then will you be a master of this lift.

Don't forget to "lower to the upper stomach area" and "bring your elbows in" to really move those heavy weights.

Would not do another 1rm bench unless there was at least the cost of reconstructive surgery riding on it.
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 18, 2014, 10:59:00 PM
Don`t forget to bring your elbows in and keep them from flaring out.  ::)

Worst fucking advice ever.

Is that how you manage to get that massive 135 up?
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: The True Adonis on May 18, 2014, 11:02:09 PM
Is that how you manage to get that massive 135 up?
Yes.
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 18, 2014, 11:36:06 PM
Yes.

Did you learn how to bench by reading a muscle magazine?
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: flinstones1 on May 21, 2014, 01:04:57 AM
You guys should train minimum 8 weeks for it Groink.......not enough time IMO.

This. It's not enough time.   Groink is on superdrol  meanwhile    that guy is going to be on halotestin guaranteed.   Groink has the muscle size and density to bench in the mid to high  400's easy... tapping into it is going to be  another story.
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: ESFitness on May 21, 2014, 01:34:19 AM
Do you mean like pulling outward or pushing inward on your grip on the bar? Sounds interesting

lol...

the easier term to visualize is 'break the bar', like you're trying to break a stick or a pencil.

Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: Roger Bacon on May 21, 2014, 01:53:54 AM
lol...

the easier term to visualize is 'break the bar', like you're trying to break a stick or a pencil.



Oh, okay... not to sound so dense, but which way? so that it would break upwards or downwards or towards your feet or head? ???

Upwards I assume?
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: ESFitness on May 21, 2014, 01:58:28 AM
Oh, okay... not to sound so dense, but which way? so that it would break upwards or downwards or towards your feet or head? ???

Upwards I assume?

grabbing the bar, you want to try to push your index finger knuckles forward and your pinky knuckles towards you.
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: Roger Bacon on May 21, 2014, 01:59:13 AM
grabbing the bar, you want to try to push your index finger knuckles forward and your pinky knuckles towards you.

Ah cool, interesting thanks!!
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: bigmc on May 21, 2014, 04:42:39 AM
seriously I wouldnt entertain this

its got injury written all over it

don't let your ego make the decision to prove you still have it at 49

do a high rep challenge with a lighter weight much safer

and probably a better test of where you are
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on May 21, 2014, 05:49:15 AM
Had one of my lifting buddies tear a pec last night. Strong kid, very good bencher for his weight. 4th rep on 375 and RIP.
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: bigmc on May 21, 2014, 05:53:38 AM
Had one of my lifting buddies tear a pec last night. Strong kid, very good bencher for his weight. 4th rep on 375 and RIP.

did he have any pain or tightness going into the set
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: Mr Anabolic on May 21, 2014, 06:00:19 AM
Heavy benching after age 40 is not worth the risk. 

Challenge him to a DB pressing contest.
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: _aj_ on May 21, 2014, 06:06:43 AM
Had one of my lifting buddies tear a pec last night. Strong kid, very good bencher for his weight. 4th rep on 375 and RIP.

Did he row the bar to his chest whilst ripping the bar apart? Failure there may have been his downfall.
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on May 21, 2014, 06:42:04 AM
did he have any pain or tightness going into the set

He said he felt great. 375 is always his go to for his heavy sets. Freak incident.

Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: bigmc on May 21, 2014, 06:51:28 AM
He said he felt great. 375 is always his go to for his heavy sets. Freak incident.



it could happen to any of us

a chest tear makes you look like shit
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on May 21, 2014, 06:52:32 AM
Did he row the bar to his chest whilst ripping the bar apart? Failure there may have been his downfall.

I feel he would have avoided the incident if he would have tried harder to rip the bar apart.
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: Mawse on May 21, 2014, 08:35:02 AM
I feel he would have avoided the incident if he would have tried harder to rip the bar apart.

For the next few months he should practice planting the balls of his feet firmly under the couch and visualizing "snapping a pencil" while lifting the remote control.
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: Thick Nick on May 21, 2014, 10:05:08 AM
As you all know...I'm a dick and have a big mouth.  (Insert gift joke here)

Thing is I seem to have accepted a challenge from a rather large,  strong, lifelong powerlifter....to a bench press competition. We both turn 50 in June , that's kinda the crux of it.

I have no idea of his max, be seems about the same as me, probably higher max because he has way better technique.  It's friendly, he's a cool guy...but fuck that I want to win...and I'm sure he's thinking the same thing.

I'm taking Superdrol ( ha ha fuck him)  ...need some technique/training .pointers.



Once all the smartass comments are over (couple more pages prolly), let me know if you'd like to know how to really do this without getting hurt, or making a fool of yourself vs. a guy who does this all the time.

And how much time do you have to prep?
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: visualizeperfection on May 21, 2014, 01:24:04 PM
Once all the smartass comments are over (couple more pages prolly), let me know if you'd like to know how to really do this without getting hurt, or making a fool of yourself vs. a guy who does this all the time.

And how much time do you have to prep?

What techniques did you deploy to decimate all those naturals while your were sauced to the tits?
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: ESFitness on May 21, 2014, 01:49:26 PM
Ah cool, interesting thanks!!

forces your elbows in and creates external rotation in the shoulder. more stable, stronger position, and much much less chance for injury.

strong triceps = strong bench.

benching for strength/poundage and benching for chest growth are two different things.... like squatting for strength/poundage and squatting for quad growth.
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: deceiver on May 21, 2014, 02:18:23 PM
In Poland we bench 2-3 times per week, usually 3 because benching is fucking easy and triceps/chest recuperates fast.

Here is programme I got from natural powerlifter sporting 480lbs+ bench press:

week / day1 / day2 / day3 + paused narrow grip bench, it's in KGs and for designed for 140kg bench press max. Just multiply everything by your max/140kg if you wanna use it.

1. 120 5x3 110 4x5 105 6x6/95 4x4 pauza 2s

2. 115 3x4 125 3x3 110 3x6/97.5 3x4 pauza 2s

3. 130 2x2 115 4x4 125 4x3/100 3x3 pauza 2s

4. 120 3x4 115 4x5 130 4x3/102.5 3x3 pauza 2s

5. 120 2x5 135 2x2 115 2x6/105 3x3 pauza 2s

6. 135 4x2 125 3x5 130 2x4/107.5 3x3 pauza 2s

How to bench press?



You must by all costs learn how to arch your back. First try to lay on the bench with legs slightly behind the bench. Feet solid on the ground. Then slide yourself in the directions of your legs slightly, legs still in same position as before, ass NOT on a bench. It will look like gymnastic exercise:



0:11, not sure how it is called in English. The only difference is that your upper back is on the banch. Then you ask someone to "give" you your barbell. It is very important because with heavy weights you won't be able to hold your position if you unrack the barbell all by yourself. position it just over lower portion of the chest, preferrably over the line where your chest meets the abs. Slow negative and on the positive portion of the movement always remember to press "forward", not "behind". You don't wanna be over your upper chest at the end of the movement. Straight line = less distance = less effort = better result.

Good luck.
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: Thick Nick on May 21, 2014, 03:21:03 PM
What techniques did you deploy to decimate all those naturals while your were sauced to the tits?

I "sauced" once when I was around 19-20. My AAU powerlifting stuff was in my late 20s early 30s. Looooong time with no drugs. But thanks for asking.
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 21, 2014, 04:24:19 PM
I only managed 405 x 1 today after 4 weeks off. But hey, not bad for almost 52.
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: visualizeperfection on May 21, 2014, 04:36:27 PM
I "sauced" once when I was around 19-20. My AAU powerlifting stuff was in my late 20s early 30s. Looooong time with no drugs. But thanks for asking.


 :)
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: Chadwick The Beta on May 21, 2014, 07:08:50 PM
I only managed 405 x 1 today after 4 weeks off. But hey, not bad for almost 5'2".

fixed

awesome lift, no homo

Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 21, 2014, 07:10:09 PM
fixed

awesome lift, no homo



lol...it's never going to change, is it?
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: Chadwick The Beta on May 21, 2014, 07:12:12 PM
lol...it's never going to change, is it?

Come on, Joe...that's the first short joke I've told in a year.   :D
Title: Re: the 50 year old bench press challenge.
Post by: LittleJ on May 21, 2014, 09:41:27 PM
Had one of my lifting buddies tear a pec last night. Strong kid, very good bencher for his weight. 4th rep on 375 and RIP.

lol