Getbig.com: American Bodybuilding, Fitness and Figure

Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Nails on May 19, 2014, 08:24:15 PM

Title: WWE CEO Vince McMahon Loses $350 Million, A Third Of His Fortune, In A Day
Post by: Nails on May 19, 2014, 08:24:15 PM
http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/dish/201405/wwe-ceo-vince-mcmahon-loses-350-million-third-his-fortune-one-day (http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/dish/201405/wwe-ceo-vince-mcmahon-loses-350-million-third-his-fortune-one-day)


(http://images.thepostgame.com/sites/default/files/mcmahon-fortune589.jpg)


Even for someone who is familiar with beatings, Vince McMahon could not have been prepared for the drubbing that he had in store last week.

According to Forbes, McMahon, the chairman and CEO of WWE, lost $350 million in a span of 24 hours.

The loss was the result of a few factors, including lack of confidence in WWE's new online streaming network and a somewhat lackluster new TV deal. The new online streaming network has only picked up 700,000 subscribers since launching, and WWE said it expects the network to lose between $45 million and $52 million this year.



The new TV deal, while still impressive, is far smaller than what some investors thought. WWE's contract with NBCUniversal to keep its hit shows "Raw" and "Smackdown" is worth around $150 million annually, which is half or one third of what many initially thought it would earn.

Together, the weak performance of the online streaming network and Thursday night's announcement of the new TV deal led WWE's stock to drop $8.86 (from $20.13 to $11.27).

That resulted in a huge loss for McMahon, whose net worth peaked at $1.6 billion in March. Then, Forbes reported, "shares dropped 29% the week after WWE announced its new online streaming network had only 667,000 subscribers, taking a $325 million chunk out of McMahon's fortune."

The stock's next big tumble Friday wiped out another $350 million -- nearly a third of his value.

A lack of confidence in the product and falling shares have dropped his fortune to an estimated $750 million.
Title: Re: WWE CEO Vince McMahon Loses $350 Million, A Third Of His Fortune, In A Day
Post by: hardgainerj on May 19, 2014, 08:52:16 PM
does he benoit himself in 2014?
Title: Re: WWE CEO Vince McMahon Loses $350 Million, A Third Of His Fortune, In A Day
Post by: HavoX on May 19, 2014, 09:49:10 PM
I guess we all know who's going to have the last laugh...

(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view4/1487414/million-dollar-man-o.gif)
Title: Re: WWE CEO Vince McMahon Loses $350 Million, A Third Of His Fortune, In A Day
Post by: SF1900 on May 19, 2014, 10:16:12 PM
Thats because the WWE sucks. From the early 2000s, WWE has gone downhill. Wrestling really sucks now.
Title: Re: WWE CEO Vince McMahon Loses $350 Million, A Third Of His Fortune, In A Day
Post by: ESFitness on May 19, 2014, 10:19:31 PM
just his net-worth on paper from his stock holdings of his company.

I'm sure he's diversified enough that it won't matter and I doubt he's leveraged too bad.
Title: Re: WWE CEO Vince McMahon Loses $350 Million, A Third Of His Fortune, In A Day
Post by: thebrink on May 19, 2014, 10:24:16 PM
A few boy toys were just saved from this monster
Title: Re: WWE CEO Vince McMahon Loses $350 Million, A Third Of His Fortune, In A Day
Post by: 240 is Back on May 19, 2014, 11:53:12 PM
I wish I was worth only $700 mil after a bad day.
Title: Re: WWE CEO Vince McMahon Loses $350 Million, A Third Of His Fortune, In A Day
Post by: SF1900 on May 19, 2014, 11:56:10 PM
I wish I was worth only $700 mil after a bad day.

But your love for GB is worth way much more than 700 mil
Title: Re: WWE CEO Vince McMahon Loses $350 Million, A Third Of His Fortune, In A Day
Post by: 240 is Back on May 20, 2014, 12:11:23 AM
But your love for GB is worth way much more than 700 mil

my love for all things getbig is priceless.  I'm an animal.
Title: Re: WWE CEO Vince McMahon Loses $350 Million, A Third Of His Fortune, In A Day
Post by: G_Thang on May 20, 2014, 12:25:12 AM
Subtract his core product which existed before him so it's not his actual creation and he fails at every business venture.  XFL, WBF and Online Steaming (How the fuck in the internet and social media age do you cough up 35-42M for a simple stream network?)
Title: Re: WWE CEO Vince McMahon Loses $350 Million, A Third Of His Fortune, In A Day
Post by: Bevo on May 20, 2014, 01:01:33 AM
(http://dailywrestlingnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Vince-McMahon-admiring-bodybuilders.gif)
Title: Re: WWE CEO Vince McMahon Loses $350 Million, A Third Of His Fortune, In A Day
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 20, 2014, 01:04:56 AM
I see the financial wizards are all over the case.

Excellent work  ::)
Title: Re: WWE CEO Vince McMahon Loses $350 Million, A Third Of His Fortune, In A Day
Post by: Dopey on May 20, 2014, 02:38:06 AM
WCW Monday Nitro

Damn I miss that show...     :'(
Title: Re: WWE CEO Vince McMahon Loses $350 Million, A Third Of His Fortune, In A Day
Post by: HavoX on May 20, 2014, 07:15:36 AM
I wonder why it didn't take off... One ppv buy is > than a year membership.



Oh that's right, wrasslin fans are 8 years old or "not the wifi type of people"
Title: Re: WWE CEO Vince McMahon Loses $350 Million, A Third Of His Fortune, In A Day
Post by: funk51 on May 20, 2014, 07:17:15 AM
(http://dailywrestlingnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Vince-McMahon-admiring-bodybuilders.gif)
priceless.
Title: Re: WWE CEO Vince McMahon Loses $350 Million, A Third Of His Fortune, In A Day
Post by: Man of Steel on May 20, 2014, 07:30:51 AM
The internets ruined wrasslin.  The storyline buildups of the past are just that....a thing of the past.  

There's no mystery behind anything anymore.  "Who is Iron Sheik really?"  Google him.  "Wonder what's gonna happen on RAW this week?"  Go check Wrestlezone.  

There's a PPV every other week it seems so there's no build, no character development, no story to get behind....it's gone as quickly as it came.  

The whole "wrasslin was only good during the Monday Night Wars and the WWF Attitude Era" is not true.  The 80s were huge in wrasslin and it was fully PG like it is today.  We say everything sucks now because we're so fully desensitized today.  

As fans we're too involved and impatient.....we live in the instant information and instant communication era so we want to spoil everything before it's even scripted LOL.....the whole process sucks.  I use to watch matches build for months and the only time I'd see the wrestlers prior to the matches were during the huge interviews.  Find me a Hulk Hogan, Ric Flair, Rock or Ultimate Warrior interview today.....you can't!!!  There aren't any.

There's no charisma in the wrestlers.  The majority of mic skills suck.  There are no classic interviews anymore...just stupid sidebars and lame, rehased jokes that don't work.  

The truly huge pops during wrestler entrances are gone.  Heck, even the entrance music sucks.

The majority of old school wrestlers were all monsters....huge men.  Today the guys are big, but not monsters.  Where are the Ted Arcidis, Kazs, Hercules Hernandez', Hulk Hogan, Warlords, etc.....once in awhile we get a monster.  The wrasslin ranks used to be packed with em....now we get one once in  a blue moon.

There are no real tag teams anymore.  Gone are the days of the Road Warriors, Midnight Express, Powers of Pain, Horsemen, etc....   There are no true managers either.....no Percy Pringles, no Gary Harts, no Jim Cornettes, no Bobby Heenans.....no nothing.  

"Dream matchups" basically occur on every wrasslin program virtually every week.  We've seen everything before and it's repeated endlessly with subpar talent today.  I'm not saying the wrestlers aren't good athletes, but there's a difference between being a genuine wrestling talent and athleticism.  

There are no more Hulk Hogans, Ultimate Warriors, Ric Flairs, Von Erichs, Harts, Dusty Rhodes, etc......

And where have all the career jobbers gone?  Where are the "Playboy" Buddy Roses or the unnamed yet fully recognizable "ham n eggers" that were beaten endlessly by Koko B. Ware, the Junkyard Dogg and Dino Bravo.

The fun gimmicks are also gone and the internet has ruined that potential.  The fantasy element has left wrasslin because virtually everything can be googled and spoiled so the wrasslin websites cater to that idea because.....well.....wha t else can they do?  Turn off the net LOL?

Wrestling will never be what it was again.  
Title: Re: WWE CEO Vince McMahon Loses $350 Million, A Third Of His Fortune, In A Day
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on May 20, 2014, 07:43:35 AM
What's amazing is he was worth 1 Billion 14 years ago. Is he really going to get millions of people to pay $10 a month for a subscription? If so, there are a lot of people out there that should consider suicide by noose :-\
Title: Re: WWE CEO Vince McMahon Loses $350 Million, A Third Of His Fortune, In A Day
Post by: Rambone on May 20, 2014, 08:02:45 AM
I guess we all know who's going to have the last laugh...

(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view4/1487414/million-dollar-man-o.gif)

(http://www.trapword.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/milliondollarmope.jpg)

Everybody's got a price!
Title: Re: WWE CEO Vince McMahon Loses $350 Million, A Third Of His Fortune, In A Day
Post by: Mr Anabolic on May 20, 2014, 08:09:38 AM
WWE stock was in bubble territory way before this happened.  It was only a matter of time.

Here is the chart...

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=WWE&p=D&yr=1&mn=0&dy=0&id=p50423857839 (http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=WWE&p=D&yr=1&mn=0&dy=0&id=p50423857839)
Title: Re: WWE CEO Vince McMahon Loses $350 Million, A Third Of His Fortune, In A Day
Post by: Mr Anabolic on May 20, 2014, 08:14:49 AM
What's amazing is he was worth 1 Billion 14 years ago. Is he really going to get millions of people to pay $10 a month for a subscription? If so, there are a lot of people out there that should consider suicide by noose :-\

Vince should've bought gold back then.  Would have 6x that amount now.

He also could've bought shares of Apple or Priceline... wow.
Title: Re: WWE CEO Vince McMahon Loses $350 Million, A Third Of His Fortune, In A Day
Post by: Darren Avey on May 20, 2014, 10:25:41 AM
They need to bring back Max Moon to save the World Wrestling Federation. (http://www.wrestlecrap.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Max-Moon-MoonPie-photo.jpg)
Title: Re: WWE CEO Vince McMahon Loses $350 Million, A Third Of His Fortune, In A Day
Post by: BDsauce on May 20, 2014, 12:12:17 PM
This

(http://www.deliberationroom.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/UFC-Logo.jpg)
Title: Re: WWE CEO Vince McMahon Loses $350 Million, A Third Of His Fortune, In A Day
Post by: Fortress on May 20, 2014, 03:06:48 PM
What needs to be said has been said in a post a few before mine.

The WWE, and pro wrestling in general, is nothing like it once was.

It's too scripted ... and too by-the-numbers.

True superstars are now very rare in pro wrestling. Legit larger-than-life characters.
Title: Re: WWE CEO Vince McMahon Loses $350 Million, A Third Of His Fortune, In A Day
Post by: Lustral on May 20, 2014, 03:13:22 PM
Think I'd kill myself if I was only worth $1.3bn.
Title: Re: WWE CEO Vince McMahon Loses $350 Million, A Third Of His Fortune, In A Day
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on May 20, 2014, 03:51:16 PM
He lost nothing.  It is all computer money, meaningless shit until he decides to cash it out.
Title: Re: WWE CEO Vince McMahon Loses $350 Million, A Third Of His Fortune, In A Day
Post by: Bevo on May 20, 2014, 04:00:17 PM
The internets ruined wrasslin.  The storyline buildups of the past are just that....a thing of the past.  

There's no mystery behind anything anymore.  "Who is Iron Sheik really?"  Google him.  "Wonder what's gonna happen on RAW this week?"  Go check Wrestlezone.  

There's a PPV every other week it seems so there's no build, no character development, no story to get behind....it's gone as quickly as it came.  

The whole "wrasslin was only good during the Monday Night Wars and the WWF Attitude Era" is not true.  The 80s were huge in wrasslin and it was fully PG like it is today.  We say everything sucks now because we're so fully desensitized today.  

As fans we're too involved and impatient.....we live in the instant information and instant communication era so we want to spoil everything before it's even scripted LOL.....the whole process sucks.  I use to watch matches build for months and the only time I'd see the wrestlers prior to the matches were during the huge interviews.  Find me a Hulk Hogan, Ric Flair, Rock or Ultimate Warrior interview today.....you can't!!!  There aren't any.

There's no charisma in the wrestlers.  The majority of mic skills suck.  There are no classic interviews anymore...just stupid sidebars and lame, rehased jokes that don't work.  

The truly huge pops during wrestler entrances are gone.  Heck, even the entrance music sucks.

The majority of old school wrestlers were all monsters....huge men.  Today the guys are big, but not monsters.  Where are the Ted Arcidis, Kazs, Hercules Hernandez', Hulk Hogan, Warlords, etc.....once in awhile we get a monster.  The wrasslin ranks used to be packed with em....now we get one once in  a blue moon.

There are no real tag teams anymore.  Gone are the days of the Road Warriors, Midnight Express, Powers of Pain, Horsemen, etc....   There are no true managers either.....no Percy Pringles, no Gary Harts, no Jim Cornettes, no Bobby Heenans.....no nothing.  

"Dream matchups" basically occur on every wrasslin program virtually every week.  We've seen everything before and it's repeated endlessly with subpar talent today.  I'm not saying the wrestlers aren't good athletes, but there's a difference between being a genuine wrestling talent and athleticism.  

There are no more Hulk Hogans, Ultimate Warriors, Ric Flairs, Von Erichs, Harts, Dusty Rhodes, etc......

And where have all the career jobbers gone?  Where are the "Playboy" Buddy Roses or the unnamed yet fully recognizable "ham n eggers" that were beaten endlessly by Koko B. Ware, the Junkyard Dogg and Dino Bravo.

The fun gimmicks are also gone and the internet has ruined that potential.  The fantasy element has left wrasslin because virtually everything can be googled and spoiled so the wrasslin websites cater to that idea because.....well.....wha t else can they do?  Turn off the net LOL?

Wrestling will never be what it was again.  

Damn Von Erich's u don't hear about them much anymore besides all of them dead except kevin. My good girlfriend married one of his sons recently. Weird family
Title: Re: WWE CEO Vince McMahon Loses $350 Million, A Third Of His Fortune, In A Day
Post by: Nails on May 20, 2014, 04:02:43 PM
Well he did leave the company to good hands

his daughter steph and her big ego husband Triple H


no wonder shane wanted nothing to do with WWE anymore
Title: Re: WWE CEO Vince McMahon Loses $350 Million, A Third Of His Fortune, In A Day
Post by: bradistani on May 20, 2014, 05:06:59 PM
he's still got plenty left to sniff :D
(http://37.media.tumblr.com/5497979dd5bba509e849d35571d42229/tumblr_n5q0x8tp5X1s9x79go1_250.gif)
Title: Re: WWE CEO Vince McMahon Loses $350 Million, A Third Of His Fortune, In A Day
Post by: Earl1972 on May 20, 2014, 05:32:05 PM
This

(http://www.deliberationroom.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/UFC-Logo.jpg)

the ufc was at it's peak popularity when a wwe superstar was champ

E
Title: Re: WWE CEO Vince McMahon Loses $350 Million, A Third Of His Fortune, In A Day
Post by: King Shizzo on May 20, 2014, 05:34:47 PM
I started watching Monday Night Raw after years of missing wrestling.

It was fun to catch up for about 6 months, but now it's very stale.  It's the same shit over and over again.
Title: Re: WWE CEO Vince McMahon Loses $350 Million, A Third Of His Fortune, In A Day
Post by: Earl1972 on May 20, 2014, 05:39:37 PM
The internets ruined wrasslin.  The storyline buildups of the past are just that....a thing of the past.  

There's no mystery behind anything anymore.  "Who is Iron Sheik really?"  Google him.  "Wonder what's gonna happen on RAW this week?"  Go check Wrestlezone.  

There's a PPV every other week it seems so there's no build, no character development, no story to get behind....it's gone as quickly as it came.  

The whole "wrasslin was only good during the Monday Night Wars and the WWF Attitude Era" is not true.  The 80s were huge in wrasslin and it was fully PG like it is today.  We say everything sucks now because we're so fully desensitized today.  

As fans we're too involved and impatient.....we live in the instant information and instant communication era so we want to spoil everything before it's even scripted LOL.....the whole process sucks.  I use to watch matches build for months and the only time I'd see the wrestlers prior to the matches were during the huge interviews.  Find me a Hulk Hogan, Ric Flair, Rock or Ultimate Warrior interview today.....you can't!!!  There aren't any.

There's no charisma in the wrestlers.  The majority of mic skills suck.  There are no classic interviews anymore...just stupid sidebars and lame, rehased jokes that don't work.  

The truly huge pops during wrestler entrances are gone.  Heck, even the entrance music sucks.

The majority of old school wrestlers were all monsters....huge men.  Today the guys are big, but not monsters.  Where are the Ted Arcidis, Kazs, Hercules Hernandez', Hulk Hogan, Warlords, etc.....once in awhile we get a monster.  The wrasslin ranks used to be packed with em....now we get one once in  a blue moon.

There are no real tag teams anymore.  Gone are the days of the Road Warriors, Midnight Express, Powers of Pain, Horsemen, etc....   There are no true managers either.....no Percy Pringles, no Gary Harts, no Jim Cornettes, no Bobby Heenans.....no nothing.  

"Dream matchups" basically occur on every wrasslin program virtually every week.  We've seen everything before and it's repeated endlessly with subpar talent today.  I'm not saying the wrestlers aren't good athletes, but there's a difference between being a genuine wrestling talent and athleticism.  

There are no more Hulk Hogans, Ultimate Warriors, Ric Flairs, Von Erichs, Harts, Dusty Rhodes, etc......

And where have all the career jobbers gone?  Where are the "Playboy" Buddy Roses or the unnamed yet fully recognizable "ham n eggers" that were beaten endlessly by Koko B. Ware, the Junkyard Dogg and Dino Bravo.

The fun gimmicks are also gone and the internet has ruined that potential.  The fantasy element has left wrasslin because virtually everything can be googled and spoiled so the wrasslin websites cater to that idea because.....well.....wha t else can they do?  Turn off the net LOL?

Wrestling will never be what it was again.  

i think it's the lack of competition

wrestling was mainstream and cool with almost everybody until late 2001, which is around the time when vince bought wcw

i don't think it's a coincidence many people including myself thought wrestling got really bad after that

E
Title: Re: WWE CEO Vince McMahon Loses $350 Million, A Third Of His Fortune, In A Day
Post by: Nails on May 20, 2014, 05:41:10 PM
Daniel bryant and his bullshit YES YES YES gimmick isnt helping their cause much either
Title: Re: WWE CEO Vince McMahon Loses $350 Million, A Third Of His Fortune, In A Day
Post by: Danimal77 on May 20, 2014, 05:47:39 PM
http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/dish/201405/wwe-ceo-vince-mcmahon-loses-350-million-third-his-fortune-one-day (http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/dish/201405/wwe-ceo-vince-mcmahon-loses-350-million-third-his-fortune-one-day)


(http://images.thepostgame.com/sites/default/files/mcmahon-fortune589.jpg)


Even for someone who is familiar with beatings, Vince McMahon could not have been prepared for the drubbing that he had in store last week.

According to Forbes, McMahon, the chairman and CEO of WWE, lost $350 million in a span of 24 hours.

The loss was the result of a few factors, including lack of confidence in WWE's new online streaming network and a somewhat lackluster new TV deal. The new online streaming network has only picked up 700,000 subscribers since launching, and WWE said it expects the network to lose between $45 million and $52 million this year.



The new TV deal, while still impressive, is far smaller than what some investors thought. WWE's contract with NBCUniversal to keep its hit shows "Raw" and "Smackdown" is worth around $150 million annually, which is half or one third of what many initially thought it would earn.

Together, the weak performance of the online streaming network and Thursday night's announcement of the new TV deal led WWE's stock to drop $8.86 (from $20.13 to $11.27).

That resulted in a huge loss for McMahon, whose net worth peaked at $1.6 billion in March. Then, Forbes reported, "shares dropped 29% the week after WWE announced its new online streaming network had only 667,000 subscribers, taking a $325 million chunk out of McMahon's fortune."

The stock's next big tumble Friday wiped out another $350 million -- nearly a third of his value.

A lack of confidence in the product and falling shares have dropped his fortune to an estimated $750 million.

So he's worth 1.3 billion, not 1.6 billion. BIG DEAL. Now, if his stock keeps dropping, things could get interesting.

What's crazier is that Oprah Winfrey is worth 3 times more than Mr. McMahon (undeservingly so).
Title: Re: WWE CEO Vince McMahon Loses $350 Million, A Third Of His Fortune, In A Day
Post by: 2Thick on May 20, 2014, 05:49:56 PM
Negative earnings, margins, and ROE.

That's one of the possible downsides of being a founder / chairman / ceo of a public company - you're an insider who has to follow more rules, and the board and shareholders eye you with suspicion if you're not buying and holding quite a bit of stock. And if it's "your" company, you want to have as much stock as you can anyway.

And the captain is also expected to go down with the ship. Ted Turner comes to mind also.
Title: Re: WWE CEO Vince McMahon Loses $350 Million, A Third Of His Fortune, In A Day
Post by: hardgainerj on May 20, 2014, 06:02:57 PM
This

(http://www.deliberationroom.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/UFC-Logo.jpg)
the just-bleed aura has fizzled to point fighting now with the last superstar gone GSP it just downhill from here
Title: Re: WWE CEO Vince McMahon Loses $350 Million, A Third Of His Fortune, In A Day
Post by: Grape Ape on May 20, 2014, 06:07:14 PM
I still think the WWE Network model will be the future of television.   Paying for the content you want, not paying large dollars for channels of which a majority aren't watched.
Title: Re: WWE CEO Vince McMahon Loses $350 Million, A Third Of His Fortune, In A Day
Post by: Nails on May 20, 2014, 06:34:34 PM
Title: Re: WWE CEO Vince McMahon Loses $350 Million, A Third Of His Fortune, In A Day
Post by: thebrink on May 20, 2014, 06:35:05 PM
Can't watch it for more than 2 mins anymore its so horrible. Now WCW Nitro, that was QUALITY entertainment.
Title: Re: WWE CEO Vince McMahon Loses $350 Million, A Third Of His Fortune, In A Day
Post by: Hulkster on May 20, 2014, 06:50:04 PM
The internets ruined wrasslin.  The storyline buildups of the past are just that....a thing of the past.  

There's no mystery behind anything anymore.  "Who is Iron Sheik really?"  Google him.  "Wonder what's gonna happen on RAW this week?"  Go check Wrestlezone.  

There's a PPV every other week it seems so there's no build, no character development, no story to get behind....it's gone as quickly as it came.  

The whole "wrasslin was only good during the Monday Night Wars and the WWF Attitude Era" is not true.  The 80s were huge in wrasslin and it was fully PG like it is today.  We say everything sucks now because we're so fully desensitized today.  

As fans we're too involved and impatient.....we live in the instant information and instant communication era so we want to spoil everything before it's even scripted LOL.....the whole process sucks.  I use to watch matches build for months and the only time I'd see the wrestlers prior to the matches were during the huge interviews.  Find me a Hulk Hogan, Ric Flair, Rock or Ultimate Warrior interview today.....you can't!!!  There aren't any.

There's no charisma in the wrestlers.  The majority of mic skills suck.  There are no classic interviews anymore...just stupid sidebars and lame, rehased jokes that don't work.  

The truly huge pops during wrestler entrances are gone.  Heck, even the entrance music sucks.

The majority of old school wrestlers were all monsters....huge men.  Today the guys are big, but not monsters.  Where are the Ted Arcidis, Kazs, Hercules Hernandez', Hulk Hogan, Warlords, etc.....once in awhile we get a monster.  The wrasslin ranks used to be packed with em....now we get one once in  a blue moon.

There are no real tag teams anymore.  Gone are the days of the Road Warriors, Midnight Express, Powers of Pain, Horsemen, etc....   There are no true managers either.....no Percy Pringles, no Gary Harts, no Jim Cornettes, no Bobby Heenans.....no nothing.  

"Dream matchups" basically occur on every wrasslin program virtually every week.  We've seen everything before and it's repeated endlessly with subpar talent today.  I'm not saying the wrestlers aren't good athletes, but there's a difference between being a genuine wrestling talent and athleticism.  

There are no more Hulk Hogans, Ultimate Warriors, Ric Flairs, Von Erichs, Harts, Dusty Rhodes, etc......

And where have all the career jobbers gone?  Where are the "Playboy" Buddy Roses or the unnamed yet fully recognizable "ham n eggers" that were beaten endlessly by Koko B. Ware, the Junkyard Dogg and Dino Bravo.

The fun gimmicks are also gone and the internet has ruined that potential.  The fantasy element has left wrasslin because virtually everything can be googled and spoiled so the wrasslin websites cater to that idea because.....well.....wha t else can they do?  Turn off the net LOL?

Wrestling will never be what it was again.  

well said.
Title: Re: WWE CEO Vince McMahon Loses $350 Million, A Third Of His Fortune, In A Day
Post by: Marty Champions on May 20, 2014, 07:33:40 PM
The NWO on wcw and wwf i think was the peak , as well as the last time wrestling was cool it really fell off after the NWO. then they were integrating that extreme wrestling or something, that was cool and dangerous
Title: Re: WWE CEO Vince McMahon Loses $350 Million, A Third Of His Fortune, In A Day
Post by: ESFitness on May 20, 2014, 09:05:04 PM
the just-bleed aura has fizzled to point fighting now with the last superstar gone GSP it just downhill from here

gsp the last superstar? gsp's fights were boring as fuck.. how is he a superstar? nobody wants to watch him jab his way through 5 round title fights. good riddance.

the ufc "fans" are just fucking uneducated dolts who were more concerned with fighters records and who got the W.

when was the last time GSP finished a fighter? when was the last time Bones KO'd an opponent?... these are tht kind of guys that get rewarded, while guys like Pat Barry and Cerrone are/were always on the verge of getting cut or being too broke to pay bills.

WWE is a joke.

WCW/NWO was 'cool' or 'entertaining' because many of us were still much younger back then... replay those episodes now in our 30's and 40's and it's lame as fuck. "Big poppa pump"? scott's a cool guy, but that shit is fucking dumb.. back then, it was 'entertaining'.

I guess if I were 17yrs old today, I'd be a fan of Kanye West as well.  :-\