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Title: "TRT" "Doses"
Post by: Hulkotron on May 27, 2014, 08:36:35 AM
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Title: Re: "TRT" "Doses"
Post by: _aj_ on May 27, 2014, 08:42:17 AM
We like to call it "rationalization"...
Title: Re: "TRT" "Doses"
Post by: the trainer on May 27, 2014, 08:44:25 AM
Taking TRT douses is like a horny dude who rubs his dick on the pussy instead of putting it inside.
Title: Re: "TRT" "Doses"
Post by: Foozle on May 27, 2014, 08:52:02 AM
Taking TRT douses is like a horny dude who rubs his dick on the pussy instead of putting it inside.

you rub your dick on men's buttholes while you bounce your scrotums together like this thing:

(http://www.luxrender.net/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=18636&g2_serialNumber=2)
Title: Re: "TRT" "Doses"
Post by: LittleJ on May 27, 2014, 09:29:15 AM
Taking TRT douses is like a horny dude who rubs his dick on the pussy instead of putting it inside.

What is considered trt to you.
Title: Re: "TRT" "Doses"
Post by: the trainer on May 27, 2014, 09:35:40 AM
What is considered trt to you.
250mg and below when taking test.
Title: Re: "TRT" "Doses"
Post by: wolfrittner on May 27, 2014, 09:36:07 AM
you rub your dick on men's buttholes while you bounce your scrotums together like this thing:

(http://www.luxrender.net/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=18636&g2_serialNumber=2)
Hahahahaha!
Title: Re: "TRT" "Doses"
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on May 27, 2014, 09:56:43 AM
250mg and below when taking test.

150mgs is a healthy TRT dose that will rocket you into the upper normal range.
Title: Re: "TRT" "Doses"
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 27, 2014, 10:00:49 AM
Anything over 150mg is NOT a TRT dose.  Most TRT is 100mg weekly or 150mg every ten days.

The clinics here in FL follow a standard "over dose" program though.  200mg test weekly, 500ius hcg twice weekly, 2 adex tabs weekly.
Title: Re: "TRT" "Doses"
Post by: the trainer on May 27, 2014, 10:17:42 AM
150mgs is a healthy TRT dose that will rocket you into the upper normal range.

150mg is a waste of time might as well take this.

(http://www.muscleoutlet.com/image/cache/data/Manufacters/BSN/AROMAVEX-EVOTEST-500x500.gif)
Title: Re: "TRT" "Doses"
Post by: LittleJ on May 27, 2014, 11:50:25 AM
150mgs is a healthy TRT dose that will rocket you into the upper normal range.

No, it depends on the person. I know many guys that take 250mg and isn't near normal range.
Title: Re: "TRT" "Doses"
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on May 27, 2014, 12:19:25 PM
No, it depends on the person. I know many guys that take 250mg and isn't near normal range.

We're not talking 250mgs of your bathtub brew here
Title: Re: "TRT" "Doses"
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on May 27, 2014, 05:11:00 PM
True TRT is whatever it takes to get you to 800-1000 ng/dl total testosterone.  For many, that's about 10mg long-estered testosterone a day--or 100mg every 10 days.

Of course, everyone is different and the only way to know for sure is through blood tests
Title: Re: "TRT" "Doses"
Post by: visualizeperfection on May 27, 2014, 05:16:13 PM
lol at the gayner.

My go to long haul "cycle" is 250 a week.

Works great. And I dont feel like shit, no sides at all, I dont even take an AI.

If I eat like shit I retain a lot of water, but as long as the diet is good, not going overboard on der carbos... I stay moderately dry (and fat)
Title: Re: "TRT" "Doses"
Post by: Mawse on May 27, 2014, 06:24:47 PM
200mg a week crew

if my insurance company says it's legit TRT and covers it, who am I to argue
Title: Re: "TRT" "Doses"
Post by: DanielPaul on May 27, 2014, 06:25:16 PM
Anything over 150mg is NOT a TRT dose.  Most TRT is 100mg weekly or 150mg every ten days.

The clinics here in FL follow a standard "over dose" program though.  200mg test weekly, 500ius hcg twice weekly, 2 adex tabs weekly.
What results do you get from this.
Title: Re: "TRT" "Doses"
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 27, 2014, 07:03:15 PM
What results do you get from this.

Just for clarification, I only cycle once per year.  April until end of July.  I get a script from the TRT year around even though I do not use any juice from August until the start of my cycle at April.  I simply horde it over the time.  My cycle has been for the last few years - 300mg Test weekly + 600mg Primo weekly.  I will cycle in Serostim HGH before and after the cycle as well.  I do not use the adex or HCG during the cycle either.  While my FSH levels get down to a 1 (which is expected) my balls never shrink or lose size.  So I see no point in using the HCG during the cycle because even if you take a shit load, as long as you are using any form of synthetic test, your FSH levels are going to be a 1 or lower.  When my cycle ends, it takes about 6 weeks before my natural test levels are in the 700s and my FSH is in the 5-6 range, and then after 10 weeks, I am always in the 900 range for test levels and 8-10 range for FSH.  So I recover quickly.  I don't use the adex simply because there is no need.  I don't experience any ER activity that worries me like gyno.  There is no water retention at the doses I use.  And if there was, I would counter it through other means rather than relying on adex to push it out of me.  On cycle my test levels are usually in the 2000-3200 range and my E2 is usually in the 25-30 range, so I really don't need any AI.  Grinding your E2 down to the single digits just to flush some water out of you is the absolute worst thing you can do.  You need a normal E2 level.  Otherwise you will do more harm than good to yourself.  Low E2 can bring about a shit load of problems really quickly.

So I really can't say what year around results of a TRT dose may be based on personal experience.  I can tell you that friends of mine that have juiced heavily over the years do it and it is really the only thing that keeps them from feeling like utter shit (severe lethargy, achy joints, CNS shot to hell, moody, unfocused, etc..) when they are not "on" a heavy cycle.  Do they grow?  No.  Not after the big dosages that they have used in the past. But they don't shrink either.

For the average person who doesn't cycle with moderate or big doses, a small dose like this will make all the difference in the world.  You really don't need a mega dose for the average person.  Pros use more simply because they are genetically gifted with a high chemical response.  I know many, many people that use shit loads of gear and they couldn't win the Mr Local Zipcode Contest.  Using a small dose for a longer period of time rather than a short 10-12 week blast is better IMO.  It lets you figure out what works for you in terms of diet and training.  Once you figure that out, then you can use that formula to make gains whether you are clean or on everything but roller skates.
Title: Re: "TRT" "Doses"
Post by: ESFitness on May 27, 2014, 07:40:30 PM
150mgs is a healthy TRT dose that will rocket you into the upper normal range.

150mg/wk should put a guy with sub-100 natural test into the 1200ng/dl range, if not 1400ng/dl.
Title: Re: "TRT" "Doses"
Post by: ESFitness on May 27, 2014, 07:44:48 PM
No, it depends on the person. I know many guys that take 250mg and isn't near normal range.

no chance that happens with properly dosed gear... absolutely no chance.

200mg every 14 days will have you at 750-950.. 900 being the upper limit of what's considered a "high natural level"

even 100mg every 14days will put a guy into the 'normal' range of around 450-500

... and that's with guys who produce less than 100ng/dl naturally after being OFF everything for months.
Title: Re: "TRT" "Doses"
Post by: Primemuscle on May 27, 2014, 11:29:40 PM
150mgs is a healthy TRT dose that will rocket you into the upper normal range.

This is what works best for me.
Title: Re: "TRT" "Doses"
Post by: A Righteous Sort on May 27, 2014, 11:35:54 PM
Anything over 150mg is NOT a TRT dose.  Most TRT is 100mg weekly or 150mg every ten days.

The clinics here in FL follow a standard "over dose" program though.  200mg test weekly, 500ius hcg twice weekly, 2 adex tabs weekly.

This
Title: Re: "TRT" "Doses"
Post by: Primemuscle on May 27, 2014, 11:36:24 PM
no chance that happens with properly dosed gear... absolutely no chance.

200mg every 14 days will have you at 750-950.. 900 being the upper limit of what's considered a "high natural level"

even 100mg every 14days will put a guy into the 'normal' range of around 450-500

... and that's with guys who produce less than 100ng/dl naturally after being OFF everything for months.

Six months ago, my labs put my total testosterone at 1,350 which my doctor indicated was too high. This time, I am taking two weeks off from injections of both testosterone cypionate and HCG in hopes my labs will not be over the top again.
Title: Re: "TRT" "Doses"
Post by: ESFitness on May 27, 2014, 11:41:59 PM
Six months ago, my labs put my total testosterone at 1,350 which my doctor indicated was too high. This time, I am taking two weeks off from injections of both testosterone cypionate and HCG in hopes my labs will not be over the top again.

I should clarify.. those numbers were on day 13 after a 200mg injection. a few days post injection would have a guy in the 1110-1400 range and will drop off a bit by day 13.

most doc's won't mind a 1200 reading.. or even a 1400 reading.. as much as they would a 500 reading.
Title: Re: "TRT" "Doses"
Post by: Primemuscle on May 28, 2014, 12:01:53 AM
I should clarify.. those numbers were on day 13 after a 200mg injection. a few days post injection would have a guy in the 1110-1400 range and will drop off a bit by day 13.

most doc's won't mind a 1200 reading.. or even a 1400 reading.. as much as they would a 500 reading.

Well, my doctor seemed very upset about it. He doesn't know I use HCG too and I am not about to tell him. If he prescribes 10 mil, the dosage has to be high enough that the prescription won't exceed three months supply or my insurance won't cover it. We go round and round about this every time I see him. Last time I filled the prescription, the pharmacy wanted to give me two 2 mil vials, which was a month's supply based on the prescription dosage. I had them fill the prescription for the 10 mil vial and not run it through my insurance.
Title: Re: "TRT" "Doses"
Post by: Mr. MB on May 29, 2014, 09:12:24 AM
True TRT is whatever it takes to get you to 800-1000 ng/dl total testosterone.  For many, that's about 10mg long-estered testosterone a day--or 100mg every 10 days.

Of course, everyone is different and the only way to know for sure is through blood tests

This.

 In my case it takes 250 to get me over 500 ng/dl. On my own I dropped back to 125 weekly and after a few months took up knitting and watched Oprah. Doc doubled me up after a blood test. Mo betta.
Title: Re: "TRT" "Doses"
Post by: mazrim on June 06, 2014, 05:35:58 PM
What would be the best way to mimic the bodies natural pulses, etc. when using test prop as trt as far as times taken for shots? Best in morning or at night?
Title: Re: "TRT" "Doses"
Post by: Mawse on June 06, 2014, 05:45:16 PM
you don't mimic 'pulses' in TRT , you do everything to maintain even blood levels

TRT isn't some palumbo-esque broscience of 'peak timing' like people think GH is

with prop (?) for TRT you would shoot ED in tiny amounts or EOD subQ
Title: Re: "TRT" "Doses"
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on June 06, 2014, 05:54:36 PM
you don't mimic 'pulses' in TRT , you do everything to maintain even blood levels

TRT isn't some palumbo-esque broscience of 'peak timing' like people think GH is

with prop (?) for TRT you would shoot ED in tiny amounts or EOD subQ

This.

You physiologically pulse GH, not test.
Title: Re: "TRT" "Doses"
Post by: no one on June 06, 2014, 07:14:42 PM
no chance that happens with properly dosed gear... absolutely no chance.

200mg every 14 days will have you at 750-950.. 900 being the upper limit of what's considered a "high natural level"

even 100mg every 14days will put a guy into the 'normal' range of around 450-500

... and that's with guys who produce less than 100ng/dl naturally after being OFF everything for months.



I don't take kindly to disrespect. not on the internet, not in person, not in a grocery store parking lot, not in like at walmart, not in a restaurant, not at the beach, not at the dry cleaners... anywhere.

ppl talk about the 'pussyfication' of America, yet they run their mouths thinking they won't get slapped and get their arm broken in front of their friends.

spent many yrs in a place where if you talk slick and say something out of line to somebody, you know that when you say it, you better be ready for what happens. most ppl here in the 'real world', aren't ready for what could happen.. and run their mouths like the world is a make believe cartoon. despite wearing nice slacks, polished shoes and a nice shirt, the guy you steal that parking spot from at the grocery store and proceed to flip off, may have just gotten out of prison and will have no problem identifying they bitch in you and proceed to teach you a lesson by taking you down to the ground and kicking out your teeth before you even know what happened.

the guy who's willing to go the furthest, wins. if you're not willing to go all the way, it's best you keep your mouth shut and move on, and make it to the next day.
Title: Re: "TRT" "Doses"
Post by: Hulkotron on June 06, 2014, 07:16:30 PM


I don't take kindly to disrespect. not on the internet, not in person, not in a grocery store parking lot, not in like at walmart, not in a restaurant, not at the beach, not at the dry cleaners... anywhere.

ppl talk about the 'pussyfication' of America, yet they run their mouths thinking they won't get slapped and get their arm broken in front of their friends.

spent many yrs in a place where if you talk slick and say something out of line to somebody, you know that when you say it, you better be ready for what happens. most ppl here in the 'real world', aren't ready for what could happen.. and run their mouths like the world is a make believe cartoon. despite wearing nice slacks, polished shoes and a nice shirt, the guy you steal that parking spot from at the grocery store and proceed to flip off, may have just gotten out of prison and will have no problem identifying they bitch in you and proceed to teach you a lesson by taking you down to the ground and kicking out your teeth before you even know what happened.

the guy who's willing to go the furthest, wins. if you're not willing to go all the way, it's best you keep your mouth shut and move on, and make it to the next day.


Spot on
Title: Re: "TRT" "Doses"
Post by: King Shizzo on June 06, 2014, 07:47:27 PM
This.

You physiologically pulse GH, not test.
Would love to be your pulse.
Title: Re: "TRT" "Doses"
Post by: Hulkotron on June 06, 2014, 07:55:06 PM
I like to picture Big Chiro Flex as a muscular trapeze artist.
Title: Re: "TRT" "Doses"
Post by: wolfrittner on June 06, 2014, 08:03:53 PM
250mg Test. Galenika is the perfect dose. I can feel the difference in a good way without going thru a mental rollercoaster.
Title: Re: "TRT" "Doses"
Post by: A Righteous Sort on June 07, 2014, 05:03:26 AM
250mg Test. Galenika is the perfect dose. I can feel the difference in a good way without going thru a mental rollercoaster.

^This
Title: Re: "TRT" "Doses"
Post by: _aj_ on June 07, 2014, 05:32:26 AM
250mg Test. Galenika is the perfect dose. I can feel the difference in a good way without going thru a mental rollercoaster.

This is my "stack" also.
Title: Re: "TRT" "Doses"
Post by: mazrim on June 22, 2014, 05:39:28 PM
What would be a good starting dose for trt if using prop for that purpose? Something like 9mg/day? That would put you at 7 or so mg a day taking out ester weight and the average is 4-7 mg produced a day. Haven't used test in years but starting back up again as feel a need to now after just running tren and mast mainly with deca added to that this winter causing me to feel the need for test again.
Title: Re: "TRT" "Doses"
Post by: Lustral on June 22, 2014, 05:50:06 PM
This is my "stack" also.

I want to stay 250mg but found the syringe drew itself to 2.5ml last shot I did  ??? ??? ???

Witchcraft I tell you.
Title: Re: "TRT" "Doses"
Post by: _aj_ on June 22, 2014, 05:59:30 PM
I want to stay 250mg but found the syringe drew itself to 2.5ml last shot I did  ??? ??? ???

Witchcraft I tell you.

LOL. The 25g that I use to draw the enan takes about 3 minutes to pull 1cc. I couldn't imagine "accidentally" drawing for 10 minutes.
Title: Re: "TRT" "Doses"
Post by: Lustral on June 22, 2014, 06:26:00 PM
LOL. The 25g that I use to draw the enan takes about 3 minutes to pull 1cc. I couldn't imagine "accidentally" drawing for 10 minutes.

You using 25g pins? I draw and shoot with a 23g, if I wanna run equivalent of 250mg/week I just shoot every 10-14 days or so. I can't bear to waste space in syringe  :-[
Title: Re: "TRT" "Doses"
Post by: Man of Steel on June 22, 2014, 07:28:37 PM
TRT....not up on the latest drug lingo....didn't wanna risk a Google on it and it means two men pooping on each other.
Title: Re: "TRT" "Doses"
Post by: Master Blaster on June 22, 2014, 07:47:51 PM


I don't take kindly to disrespect. not on the internet, not in person, not in a grocery store parking lot, not in like at walmart, not in a restaurant, not at the beach, not at the dry cleaners... anywhere.

ppl talk about the 'pussyfication' of America, yet they run their mouths thinking they won't get slapped and get their arm broken in front of their friends.

spent many yrs in a place where if you talk slick and say something out of line to somebody, you know that when you say it, you better be ready for what happens. most ppl here in the 'real world', aren't ready for what could happen.. and run their mouths like the world is a make believe cartoon. despite wearing nice slacks, polished shoes and a nice shirt, the guy you steal that parking spot from at the grocery store and proceed to flip off, may have just gotten out of prison and will have no problem identifying they bitch in you and proceed to teach you a lesson by taking you down to the ground and kicking out your teeth before you even know what happened.

the guy who's willing to go the furthest, wins. if you're not willing to go all the way, it's best you keep your mouth shut and move on, and make it to the next day.


why don't ypu cut people some slack once in a while? Not everything has to be some argument. Just ignore idiots.

Seriously.  :)
Title: Re: "TRT" "Doses"
Post by: no one on June 22, 2014, 07:53:11 PM
why don't ypu cut people some slack once in a while? Not everything has to be some argument. Just ignore idiots.

Seriously.  :)

um. that's a post made by ESFitness.

lol fuck i couldn't go thru life that angry if I tried.