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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: millineum man on June 01, 2014, 11:59:55 PM
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If someone has all their ducks lined up in a row(training, diet, etc...) and maxed out their natural potential. Does 250-300mgs of Test E a week with 50mgs of Proviron/ED sound like a good First Cycle for someone who plans on staying on long term(6-12+ months), probably forever;D?
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My first real cycle i started with 250mg Test E weekly, also Dbol 6-8 weeks around 20-50mg daily depends on the quality of the gear!
After a while when I felt comfortable i increased the Test E to 500mg weekly for a few months and so on.
I was very pleased with the cycle and got great results from it.
Keep your diet 100% and train hard!
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Thats the getbig approved lowdose cycle.
250 a week indefinitely.
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I liked 250 mg test/w solo. I liked 125 mg/w test + 250 mg/w mast better. Just started on 125 mg/w test + 250 mg/w tren, but so far I think I liked the mast better. Giving it a few more weeks.
Why the proviron?
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I had great results on just 250mg weekly
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I think it sounds fine as a first time cycle then from there you have alot of room to bump up the dosages, I hate seeing guys rapidly taking their first cycle as high as 4 grams a week. makes no sense. The cycle you layed out 250-300mg of Test a week makes more sense to me. One sust amp a week or one amp of Test E a week is all you really need if your training and diet are really great. Now scientifically your not going to build alot of muscle but it will cause your phsyique to change for the better, get use to 300mg a week then go up to 500-600mg a week. I think you should throw in a mild oral min the cycle like 30-50mg of anavar daily for a few months your gains will be great-IMO.
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I liked 250 mg test/w solo. I liked 125 mg/w test + 250 mg/w mast better. Just started on 125 mg/w test + 250 mg/w tren, but so far I think I liked the mast better. Giving it a few more weeks.
Why the proviron?
What kind of Masteron did you use, propionate or enanthate? How many times did you inject?
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What kind of Masteron did you use, propionate or enanthate? How many times did you inject?
always enathate for everything.
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I think it sounds fine as a first time cycle then from there you have alot of room to bump up the dosages, I hate seeing guys rapidly taking their first cycle as high as 4 grams a week. makes no sense. The cycle you layed out 250-300mg of Test a week makes more sense to me. One sust amp a week or one amp of Test E a week is all you really need if your training and diet are really great. Now scientifically your not going to build alot of muscle but it will cause your phsyique to change for the better, get use to 300mg a week then go up to 500-600mg a week. I think you should throw in a mild oral min the cycle like 30-50mg of anavar daily for a few months your gains will be great-IMO.
What if I used Turinabol at 40-60mgs daily, instead of anavar along with the Test?
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I liked 250 mg test/w solo. I liked 125 mg/w test + 250 mg/w mast bitettit ieitr. Just started on 125 mg/w test + 250 mg/w tren, but so far I think I liked the mast better. Giving it a few more weeks.
Why the proviron?
Proviron is an oral steroid that acts as mild anti-estrogen to keep you dry and may increase your sex drive. It's supposed to free up the test to make it more available.
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Proviron is an oral steroid that acts as mild anti-estrogen to keep you dry and may increase your sex drive. It's supposed to free up the test to make it more available.
I know the definition, I'm just wondering why you are taking that, instead of something that is certain (not 'supposed') to have good results. ???
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I knit w the definition, I'm just wondering why you are taking that, instead of something that is certain (not 'supposed') to have good results. ???
Proviron is proven by many to get results. I'm using it mainly to keep me dry and it came highly recommended. I'm not opposed to adding anabolic further down the line.
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using that dosage for that long will yield better lean gains than 2 blasts of 2 gms a week for 16 weeks in a year.
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using that dosage for that long will yield better lean gains than 2 blasts of 2 gms a week for 16 weeks in a year.
true but only for beginners
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Dude, you've been asking for months now and we've told you the same thing: 250mg/week is a fine cycle, especially for a beginner.
Get yourself some test and stop wasting time.
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Dude, you've been asking for months now and we've told you the same thing: 250mg/week is a fine cycle, especially for a beginner.
Get yourself some test and stop wasting time.
True. Just trying to make sure I take a step in the RIGHT direction before I take the plunge.
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I had great results on just 250mg weekly
What kind of results did you get?
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What kind of results did you get?
Results are the most subjective thing possible.
Your results will not be the same, be it worse or better. He said he had "good" results, and thats the best description you will get it lol.
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Results are the most subjective thing possible.
Your results will not be the same, be it worse or better. He said he had "good" results, and thats the best description you will get it lol.
I totally understand that we're all are different, but I'm pretty certain he can answer that question for himself? ;)
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I wouldn't call 250-300 test/wk a 'cycle'.. I'd call that your base, and your 'cycles' would be when you either:
a) add other drugs in for a certain amount of time
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b) add other drugs in as well as double the test dosage for a certain amount of time
for example;
maintain minimum of 250mg-300mg test/wk the entire time
for 3 months, double the test and add in 600mg npp (200mg 3x/wk)
back to 'base' test dose for 1-3 months
for 3 months, double the test and add 300-500 tren per week (either ace or enan)
back to 'base' test dose for 1-3 months
... and so on and so on.............
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I wouldn't call 250-300 test/wk a 'cycle'.. I'd call that your base, and your 'cycles' would be when you either:
a) add other drugs in for a certain amount of time
or
b) add other drugs in as well as double the test dosage for a certain amount of time
for example;
maintain minimum of 250mg-300mg test/wk the entire time
for 3 months, double the test and add in 600mg npp (200mg 3x/wk)
back to 'base' test dose for 1-3 months
for 3 months, double the test and add 300-500 tren per week (either ace or enan)
back to 'base' test dose for 1-3 months
... and so on and so on.............
Not a bad set up for later if and when a plateau comes up. I'll probably pass on the tren, though.
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Not a bad set up for later if and when a plateau comes up. I'll probably pass on the tren, though.
why pass on the tren?
mg per mg it's the most effective steroid available (aside from methyltrienolone).
why waste money on other stuff just so you can use twice the amount and get 1/2 the results?
don't play into the fear mongering that's associated with tren. it's popular and people use it because it does exactly what you expect a steroid to do.
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What kind of results did you get?
It was like I had been training for about two years in terms of progress. I felt really good, all the time.
I had been using larger doses before (half gram test + quarter tren) and I feel that the results from 250mg a week were pretty much the same. At one point I upped the test to a gram using short esters and added an oral and it was only marginally better.
After a good 8 months at 250 I added in 400 of boldenone and that is giving me great results. After 12 weeks of that I'm considering adding another CC of boldenone then after a further 12 weeks I'll most likely remove the boldenone, diet down then up the test to 500mg and rinse the same cycle again with a higher test base. I think gradually increasing the dose is working far better.
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why pass on the tren?
mg per mg it's the most effective steroid available (aside from methyltrienolone).
why waste money on other stuff just so you can use twice the amount and get 1/2 the results?
don't play into the fear mongering that's associated with tren. it's popular and people use it because it does exactly what you expect a steroid to do.
I've read that Tren was too powerful to try for a first timer. The cough, night sweats, aggression, etc.... led me to hold off on it for a while. Possibly forever. But, I have NO DOUBT that it works EXTREMELY well.
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Tren isnt as bad as its spoken about in my experience lower test than tren helps with sides 300 test like u r talking about you would b good most likely. I did 100 mgs eod 12 weeks got the cough twice cough wasn't that bad and little but irritable no big deal as long as u expect it and im an asshole normally the temper was my main concern on tren and for me I got way more temper problems from superdrol.
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If someone has all their ducks lined up in a row(training, diet, etc...) and maxed out their natural potential. Does 250-300mgs of Test E a week with 50mgs of Proviron/ED sound like a good First Cycle for someone who plans on staying on long term(6-12+ months), probably forever;D?
This sounds like what I'm considering for a first cycle. Minus the Proviron and with some Adex on hand just incase I'm gyno prone. I feel my test levels are too low for a 32 year old. Last time I had my doc check, it was around the 440 mark. Too high for TRT but too damn low for some serious gains.
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This sounds like what I'm considering for a first cycle. Minus the Proviron and with some Adex on hand just incase I'm gyno prone. I feel my test levels are too low for a 32 year old. Last time I had my doc check, it was around the 440 mark. Too high for TRT but too damn low for some serious gains.
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