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U.S. Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl has told people treating him at an American military medical facility in Germany that he was tortured, beaten and held in a cage by his Taliban captors in Afghanistan after he tried to escape, a senior U.S. official said Sunday.
The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss what Bergdahl has revealed about the conditions of his captivity. The New York Times first reported on the matter.
The official said it was difficult to verify the accounts Bergdahl has given since his release a week ago.
Bergdahl, now 28, was captured in June 2009 after he disappeared from his infantry unit. He was held for nearly five years by Taliban militants.
Taliban spokesmen could not be immediately reached for comment Sunday. On Friday, Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid told The Associated Press by telephone that Bergdahl was held under "good conditions." The claim could not be independently verified.
Military doctors at the Landstuhl Regional Medical Center say that while Bergdahl is physically able to travel he's not yet emotionally prepared to be reunited with his family. He has not yet spoken to his family.
It's unclear when he may get to go home.
The Pentagon said in a statement Sunday that it would not comment on Bergdahl's discussions with those caring for him.
Typically, a returned captive would spend from five days to three weeks in the phase of reintegration in which Bergdahl now finds himself, according to a Pentagon psychologist who is an expert in dealing with military members who have been released from captivity said this past week. The psychologist spoke to reporters Thursday on condition of anonymity under ground rules set by the Pentagon.
Once Bergdahl is considered ready to move on to the next phase of his decompression, he is expected to be flown to an Army medical center in San Antonio, where it is believed he will be reunited with his family.
Bergdahl was returned to the U.S. military in exchange for the release of five Taliban militants from the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
"It would have been offensive and incomprehensible to consciously leave an American behind, no matter what," Secretary of State John Kerry said.
Qatar, a tiny Gulf state, served as a go-between during the negotiations, and has ongoing role in ensuring the five released prisoners remain there for at least a year, under a memo of understanding with the U.S.
The Qataris aren't "the only ones keeping an on eye on them," Kerry said in an interview broadcast Sunday on CNN's "State of the Union."
He said the U.S. has confidence in the restrictions imposed on the former detainees, as a condition of their release.
"I am not telling you that they don't have some ability at some point to go back and get involved" in the terrorism fight against the United States, Kerry said.
"But they also have an ability to get killed doing that, and I don't think anybody should doubt the capacity of the United States of America to protect Americans. ... So these guys pick a fight with us in the future or now or at any time at enormous risk," Kerry said.
The deal, which the Obama White House pulled off without adhering to a law requiring 30 days' notice before the release of Guantanamo detainees, ignited a political firestorm that shows no signs of abating.
Lawmakers, both Republicans and Democrats, who initially praised Bergdahl's release backed off amid questions about whether he was a deserter who walked away from his post and an outcry over the exchange.
Some of Bergdahl's fellow soldiers maintain that Americans died during efforts to find and save him. Also, there is great concern that the high-level Taliban officials will resume activities with the Taliban and threaten members of the U.S. military in Afghanistan.
"I just think that's a lot of baloney," said Kerry, noting that the U.S. will be ending its combat role in Afghanistan and will have fewer people in positions of risk.
U.S. Sen. John McCain, who was held prisoner during the Vietnam War, agreed with Kerry that the U.S. should do all it can to win the release of any American being held, "but not at the expense of the lives or well-being of their fellow servicemen and women."
He told CNN that "when we join the military, we know we take certain risks, and among those risks are wounding, death, imprisonment."
On Wednesday, Bergdahl's hometown of Hailey, Idaho, abruptly canceled plans for a welcome-home celebration, citing security concerns. And on Saturday the FBI said Bergdahl's family had received threats that are being investigated by federal, state and local authorities.
The U.S. official told the AP that Bergdahl's parents were being harassed and threatened, including death threats.
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Took them all weekend to write the backstory for this - the least the average American could do is buy it hook, line and sinker.
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He's a traitor. Article 85 court martial. Shoot him at dawn.
Sorry Vince, this story is bullshit. You lose.
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Vince bending over backward to defend his new neighbor Obama ::)
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Living in a trailer park is almost like living in a cage.
(https://cathysvoicenow.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/trailer-park.jpg)
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Vince bending over backward to defend his new neighbor Obama ::)
C00ns like
To stick together
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Living in a trailer park is almost like living in a cage.
(https://cathysvoicenow.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/trailer-park.jpg)
Never lived in a trailer park. It was a trailer on 5 acres of private property....to which I no longer reside at
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Keep drinking the kool aid if you believe all the propaganda coming out of Obama's administration. He looked healthier when he came out of "captivity" than when he went in.
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Lucky for him there aren't any sharks in Afghanistan
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U.S. Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl has told people treating him at an American military medical facility in Germany that he was tortured, beaten and held in a cage by his Taliban captors in Afghanistan after he tried to escape, a senior U.S. official said Sunday.
The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss what Bergdahl has revealed about the conditions of his captivity. The New York Times first reported on the matter.
The official said it was difficult to verify the accounts Bergdahl has given since his release a week ago.
Bergdahl, now 28, was captured in June 2009 after he disappeared from his infantry unit. He was held for nearly five years by Taliban militants.
Taliban spokesmen could not be immediately reached for comment Sunday. On Friday, Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid told The Associated Press by telephone that Bergdahl was held under "good conditions." The claim could not be independently verified.
Military doctors at the Landstuhl Regional Medical Center say that while Bergdahl is physically able to travel he's not yet emotionally prepared to be reunited with his family. He has not yet spoken to his family.
It's unclear when he may get to go home.
The Pentagon said in a statement Sunday that it would not comment on Bergdahl's discussions with those caring for him.
Typically, a returned captive would spend from five days to three weeks in the phase of reintegration in which Bergdahl now finds himself, according to a Pentagon psychologist who is an expert in dealing with military members who have been released from captivity said this past week. The psychologist spoke to reporters Thursday on condition of anonymity under ground rules set by the Pentagon.
Once Bergdahl is considered ready to move on to the next phase of his decompression, he is expected to be flown to an Army medical center in San Antonio, where it is believed he will be reunited with his family.
Bergdahl was returned to the U.S. military in exchange for the release of five Taliban militants from the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
"It would have been offensive and incomprehensible to consciously leave an American behind, no matter what," Secretary of State John Kerry said.
Qatar, a tiny Gulf state, served as a go-between during the negotiations, and has ongoing role in ensuring the five released prisoners remain there for at least a year, under a memo of understanding with the U.S.
The Qataris aren't "the only ones keeping an on eye on them," Kerry said in an interview broadcast Sunday on CNN's "State of the Union."
He said the U.S. has confidence in the restrictions imposed on the former detainees, as a condition of their release.
"I am not telling you that they don't have some ability at some point to go back and get involved" in the terrorism fight against the United States, Kerry said.
"But they also have an ability to get killed doing that, and I don't think anybody should doubt the capacity of the United States of America to protect Americans. ... So these guys pick a fight with us in the future or now or at any time at enormous risk," Kerry said.
The deal, which the Obama White House pulled off without adhering to a law requiring 30 days' notice before the release of Guantanamo detainees, ignited a political firestorm that shows no signs of abating.
Lawmakers, both Republicans and Democrats, who initially praised Bergdahl's release backed off amid questions about whether he was a deserter who walked away from his post and an outcry over the exchange.
Some of Bergdahl's fellow soldiers maintain that Americans died during efforts to find and save him. Also, there is great concern that the high-level Taliban officials will resume activities with the Taliban and threaten members of the U.S. military in Afghanistan.
"I just think that's a lot of baloney," said Kerry, noting that the U.S. will be ending its combat role in Afghanistan and will have fewer people in positions of risk.
U.S. Sen. John McCain, who was held prisoner during the Vietnam War, agreed with Kerry that the U.S. should do all it can to win the release of any American being held, "but not at the expense of the lives or well-being of their fellow servicemen and women."
He told CNN that "when we join the military, we know we take certain risks, and among those risks are wounding, death, imprisonment."
On Wednesday, Bergdahl's hometown of Hailey, Idaho, abruptly canceled plans for a welcome-home celebration, citing security concerns. And on Saturday the FBI said Bergdahl's family had received threats that are being investigated by federal, state and local authorities.
The U.S. official told the AP that Bergdahl's parents were being harassed and threatened, including death threats.
Are you saying his team members are lying Vince? Do you think this story was made up? You think he's just another American who got captured? Too many questions. If this was a normal capture and release this wouldn't have been this big a deal.
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Are you saying his team members are lying Vince? Do you think this story was made up? You think he's just another American who got captured? Too many questions. If this was a normal capture and release this wouldn't have been this big a deal.
Yes, Vince and Obama are saying that all of his platoon mates are lying simply because they are racist and hate Obama. And there are millions of fools that are programmed to believe this.
We're doomed.
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Vince spends his days in a "cage of emotion", hence the grasping at straws.
Ps: Obama hates your gums because......
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U.S. Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl has told people treating him at an American military medical facility in Germany that he was tortured, beaten and held in a cage by his Taliban captors in Afghanistan after he tried to escape, a senior U.S. official said Sunday.
The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss what Bergdahl has revealed about the conditions of his captivity. The New York Times first reported on the matter.
The official said it was difficult to verify the accounts Bergdahl has given since his release a week ago.
Bergdahl, now 28, was captured in June 2009 after he disappeared from his infantry unit. He was held for nearly five years by Taliban militants.
Taliban spokesmen could not be immediately reached for comment Sunday. On Friday, Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid told The Associated Press by telephone that Bergdahl was held under "good conditions." The claim could not be independently verified.
Military doctors at the Landstuhl Regional Medical Center say that while Bergdahl is physically able to travel he's not yet emotionally prepared to be reunited with his family. He has not yet spoken to his family.
It's unclear when he may get to go home.
The Pentagon said in a statement Sunday that it would not comment on Bergdahl's discussions with those caring for him.
Typically, a returned captive would spend from five days to three weeks in the phase of reintegration in which Bergdahl now finds himself, according to a Pentagon psychologist who is an expert in dealing with military members who have been released from captivity said this past week. The psychologist spoke to reporters Thursday on condition of anonymity under ground rules set by the Pentagon.
Once Bergdahl is considered ready to move on to the next phase of his decompression, he is expected to be flown to an Army medical center in San Antonio, where it is believed he will be reunited with his family.
Bergdahl was returned to the U.S. military in exchange for the release of five Taliban militants from the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
"It would have been offensive and incomprehensible to consciously leave an American behind, no matter what," Secretary of State John Kerry said.
Qatar, a tiny Gulf state, served as a go-between during the negotiations, and has ongoing role in ensuring the five released prisoners remain there for at least a year, under a memo of understanding with the U.S.
The Qataris aren't "the only ones keeping an on eye on them," Kerry said in an interview broadcast Sunday on CNN's "State of the Union."
He said the U.S. has confidence in the restrictions imposed on the former detainees, as a condition of their release.
"I am not telling you that they don't have some ability at some point to go back and get involved" in the terrorism fight against the United States, Kerry said.
"But they also have an ability to get killed doing that, and I don't think anybody should doubt the capacity of the United States of America to protect Americans. ... So these guys pick a fight with us in the future or now or at any time at enormous risk," Kerry said.
The deal, which the Obama White House pulled off without adhering to a law requiring 30 days' notice before the release of Guantanamo detainees, ignited a political firestorm that shows no signs of abating.
Lawmakers, both Republicans and Democrats, who initially praised Bergdahl's release backed off amid questions about whether he was a deserter who walked away from his post and an outcry over the exchange.
Some of Bergdahl's fellow soldiers maintain that Americans died during efforts to find and save him. Also, there is great concern that the high-level Taliban officials will resume activities with the Taliban and threaten members of the U.S. military in Afghanistan.
"I just think that's a lot of baloney," said Kerry, noting that the U.S. will be ending its combat role in Afghanistan and will have fewer people in positions of risk.
U.S. Sen. John McCain, who was held prisoner during the Vietnam War, agreed with Kerry that the U.S. should do all it can to win the release of any American being held, "but not at the expense of the lives or well-being of their fellow servicemen and women."
He told CNN that "when we join the military, we know we take certain risks, and among those risks are wounding, death, imprisonment."
On Wednesday, Bergdahl's hometown of Hailey, Idaho, abruptly canceled plans for a welcome-home celebration, citing security concerns. And on Saturday the FBI said Bergdahl's family had received threats that are being investigated by federal, state and local authorities.
The U.S. official told the AP that Bergdahl's parents were being harassed and threatened, including death threats.
so you were told and you eat it up. none of my mil buddies believe this shit.
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so you were told and you eat it up. none of my mil buddies believe this shit.
Racist post reported.
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Are you saying his team members are lying Vince? Do you think this story was made up? You think he's just another American who got captured? Too many questions. If this was a normal capture and release this wouldn't have been this big a deal.
I don't know what to think because Bergahl hasn't spoken about what happened and why he was captured other than it was pretty dumb of him to leave base unarmed for whatever reason he had....I'm thinking that he went out to meditate based on the last 2 times he did it....and again not a good idea. As far as his platoon mates are concerned...fuck them all. Going out and shitting on him immediately on national TV is kind of odd leading me to believe that they are the ones that are trying to cover their on asses. Not sporting of them to trash a guy who obviously is in no condition whatsoever to defend himself.
However, that's no justification whatsoever for these "so called Christians" and GOP to go out and put the guy on blast for being released and making death threats to his family. He spent 5 years being tortured, beaten, kept in a cage for months at a time, and used as Taliban propaganda repeatedly without even so much as hearing his side of the story whatsoever. Does anyone expect him to defend himself less than 24 hours after he was released.....Gimme a fucking break
Yes, he was disgruntled about the Afghan war...a lot of soldiers are. That's not treason you jackass and the fact that he attempted to escape numerous times from the Taliban obviously shows that he didn't join them. Bowe Bergdahl at the very least deserves the benefit of the doubt. He served his country and fought in some of the worse areas around. He had one of his best friend get blown to bits in a roadside bomb. So obviously he's not going to be in a good mood.
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So this guy is a spy...you all really know this, right? He wasn't abducted by the Taliban, he was trained for infiltration and one day was 'activated'. That's why his buddies 'left him behind'. After 5 years his cover must have been blown or he decided to come in. That's why the WH traded for him. He obviously has intel the security apparatus here wants or they would never have allowed the Gitmo prisoner exchange.
The 'Muslim' stuff is just gravy to keep low IQ folks foaming at the mouth.
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So this guy is a spy...you all really know this, right? He wasn't abducted by the Taliban, he was trained for infiltration and one day was 'activated'. That's why his buddies 'left him behind'. After 5 years his cover must have been blown or he decided to come in. That's why the WH traded for him. He obviously has intel the security apparatus here wants or they would never have allowed the Gitmo prisoner exchange.
The 'Muslim' stuff is just gravy to keep low IQ folks foaming at the mouth.
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Never lived in a trailer park. It was a trailer on 5 acres of private property....to which I no longer reside at
hahahhahaha... oh... as if that makes it any better. :D
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I love this....so now Sen. Dianne Feinstein is a "so called" Christian and member of the GOP.
OK please continue while I pull up my chair (and bucket).
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I love this....so now Sen. Dianne Feinstein is a "so called" Christian and member of the GOP.
OK please continue while I pull up my chair (and bucket).
Yes, see the admin has been in a panic mode to construct some kind of plausible explanation after the original story imploded. This is the best that they can come up with. Pathetic.
The fools that inhabit the democrat plantation will eat it with a spoon.
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What would a shark cage be doing in that geographic location?
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I don't know what to think because Bergahl hasn't spoken about what happened and why he was captured other than it was pretty dumb of him to leave base unarmed for whatever reason he had....I'm thinking that he went out to meditate based on the last 2 times he did it....and again not a good idea. As far as his platoon mates are concerned...fuck them all. Going out and shitting on him immediately on national TV is kind of odd leading me to believe that they are the ones that are trying to cover their on asses. Not sporting of them to trash a guy who obviously is in no condition whatsoever to defend himself.
However, that's no justification whatsoever for these "so called Christians" and GOP to go out and put the guy on blast for being released and making death threats to his family. He spent 5 years being tortured, beaten, kept in a cage for months at a time, and used as Taliban propaganda repeatedly without even so much as hearing his side of the story whatsoever. Does anyone expect him to defend himself less than 24 hours after he was released.....Gimme a fucking break
Yes, he was disgruntled about the Afghan war...a lot of soldiers are. That's not treason you jackass and the fact that he attempted to escape numerous times from the Taliban obviously shows that he didn't join them. Bowe Bergdahl at the very least deserves the benefit of the doubt. He served his country and fought in some of the worse areas around. He had one of his best friend get blown to bits in a roadside bomb. So obviously he's not going to be in a good mood.
Need you be reminded that you are an unintelligent person? Do we need to provide you with examples of your stupidity? Or maybe you could stop posting on this thread, (that would be the wiser thing to do).
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Better flush him down the toilet.
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What would a shark cage be doing in that geographic location?
Sitting unused.....obviously.
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Great. He should find his new "cage" very roomy and spacious then when he moves in.
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Great. He should find his new "cage" very roomy and spacious then when he moves in.
It would rule if they sent him to GTMO.
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I don't know what to think because Bergahl hasn't spoken about what happened and why he was captured other than it was pretty dumb of him to leave base unarmed for whatever reason he had....I'm thinking that he went out to meditate based on the last 2 times he did it....and again not a good idea. As far as his platoon mates are concerned...fuck them all. Going out and shitting on him immediately on national TV is kind of odd leading me to believe that they are the ones that are trying to cover their on asses. Not sporting of them to trash a guy who obviously is in no condition whatsoever to defend himself.
However, that's no justification whatsoever for these "so called Christians" and GOP to go out and put the guy on blast for being released and making death threats to his family. He spent 5 years being tortured, beaten, kept in a cage for months at a time, and used as Taliban propaganda repeatedly without even so much as hearing his side of the story whatsoever. Does anyone expect him to defend himself less than 24 hours after he was released.....Gimme a fucking break
Yes, he was disgruntled about the Afghan war...a lot of soldiers are. That's not treason you jackass and the fact that he attempted to escape numerous times from the Taliban obviously shows that he didn't join them. Bowe Bergdahl at the very least deserves the benefit of the doubt. He served his country and fought in some of the worse areas around. He had one of his best friend get blown to bits in a roadside bomb. So obviously he's not going to be in a good mood.
Vince back on his meds and making sense the past few days
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Living in a trailer park is almost like living in a cage.
(https://cathysvoicenow.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/trailer-park.jpg)
I spent probably 7 or 8 years total living in a trailer. Double then a single-wide. wasn't too shabby at all, if you're a single dude who isn't home much. As long as you're in college with promise ahead, or able to buy them a bottle of Alize every night, girls really don't mind that much either.
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I spent probably 7 or 8 years total living in a trailer. Double then a single-wide. wasn't too shabby at all, if you're a single dude who isn't home much. As long as you're in college with promise ahead, or able to buy them a bottle of Alize every night, girls really don't mind that much either.
I personally prefer women that live in trailers.
(http://d12mdq59o34kk0.cloudfront.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/daisydestin-31389-580x928.jpg)
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I don't know what to think because Bergahl hasn't spoken about what happened and why he was captured other than it was pretty dumb of him to leave base unarmed for whatever reason he had....I'm thinking that he went out to meditate based on the last 2 times he did it....and again not a good idea. As far as his platoon mates are concerned...fuck them all. Going out and shitting on him immediately on national TV is kind of odd leading me to believe that they are the ones that are trying to cover their on asses. Not sporting of them to trash a guy who obviously is in no condition whatsoever to defend himself.
Mediate? Fucking mediate what? He's a private.
However, that's no justification whatsoever for these "so called Christians" and GOP to go out and put the guy on blast for being released and making death threats to his family. He spent 5 years being tortured, beaten, kept in a cage for months at a time, and used as Taliban propaganda repeatedly without even so much as hearing his side of the story whatsoever. Does anyone expect him to defend himself less than 24 hours after he was released.....Gimme a fucking break
How do you know he was tortured and beaten? How come they didn't get information from him first THEN kill him instead of keeping him alive then releasing him?
Yes, he was disgruntled about the Afghan war...a lot of soldiers are. That's not treason you jackass and the fact that he attempted to escape numerous times from the Taliban obviously shows that he didn't join them. Bowe Bergdahl at the very least deserves the benefit of the doubt. He served his country and fought in some of the worse areas around. He had one of his best friend get blown to bits in a roadside bomb. So obviously he's not going to be in a good mood.
Yeah, I'm sure a lot are disgruntled but they're not going to leave their fellow soldiers to seek out the enemy. God you're a fool
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Meditate....and for you to think that he wasn't tortured or beaten is a laugh. You think they threw him a fucking party or some shit??? ::)
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Meditate....and for you to think that he wasn't tortured or beaten is a laugh. You think they threw him a fucking party or some shit??? ::)
Hahaha, God you're an idiot. I'm sure they did slap him around a little before they found out he deserted. Let me ask you, Vince. Being a PRIVATE what kind of negotiating tools do you suppose he was qualified to deliver?
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Hahaha, God you're an idiot. I'm sure they did slap him around a little before they found out he deserted. Let me ask you, Vince. Being a PRIVATE what kind of negotiating tools do you suppose he was qualified to deliver?
Really??? So Bowe just happened to run some members of the Taliban...who happened to know how to speak and understand English???? Come on....and for the last time, I meant to say MEDITATE instead on Mediate.
You have absolutely no proof or evidence that he deserted...just the ramblings of Fox News and unwashed flat earthers. How about waiting until you hear from they guy before jumping to conclusions. In any event, he's NOT GOING TO BE CHARGED WITH ANYTHING AND HE WON'T DO ANY TIME. He'll be medically discharged and that will be it
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Lucky for him there aren't any sharks in Afghanistan
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Really??? So Bowe just happened to run some members of the Taliban...who happened to know how to speak and understand English???? Come on....and for the last time, I meant to say MEDITATE instead on Mediate.
You have absolutely no proof or evidence that he deserted...just the ramblings of Fox News and unwashed flat earthers. How about waiting until you hear from they guy before jumping to conclusions. In any event, he's NOT GOING TO BE CHARGED WITH ANYTHING AND HE WON'T DO ANY TIME. He'll be medically discharged and that will be it
and oh, yeah...his fellow soldiers who said there is no doubt in their minds he deserted. I guess being there wasn't enough, you're going to take the words of an administration who blatantly lies to the American public on a dailly basis.
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Shark cages in the middle if the desert.