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Hey guys, after some deep thinking I've made of my mind to throw my hat into another contest. I'm going to take everything I learned from last time and apply it to this prep. I'm excited given a full 12 week prep and the proper sups for this one. I look forward to getting help and support from you guys again
Currently 220 and in decent shape I'll start cleaning up my diet some before the 7 of July when I start my prep
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arms delts are set,,,again traps/leg hardness/seperation/chest 'only due to those great delts..fair??assessment..
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arms delts are set,,,again traps/leg hardness/seperation/chest 'only due to those great delts..fair??assessment..
Totally agree I need more sweep and SEPARATION that's what I'm shooting for this time around.
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You really need chest big time mike, arms and delts are set as njflex says.
You are holding ton of water, I'd get on the dry stuff PRONTO and clean the diet up quick; if you can get into shape a few weeks before hand you can grow into your show and come in bigger- plus the added effect of the muscle growing and pushing out against the skin, as opposed to getting big as fuck and dieting down and having loose skin (And thus less definition), this will be a better look for you man.
as for your chest, you need to hammer the fuck out of it cus your like the white phil heath in that regard. dont train arms or delts you got those, throw in extra chest work, go 2x a week and you can improve it a good deal- it won't be dominant like your arms and delts because you are arm and delt dominant, but you can improve it a good deal. Do lot of pre exhaust work on that second workout, 5 sets of pec dec flyes or something, then light presses but strong contraction and full ROM nice and slow- anything to take your tris and delts out of the movement. I really like machine inclines atm, they give me a lot of control with my rep speed and I can easily adjust the weight or do drop sets or whatever I feel like. You havent really posted about your supps, and I understand why devils in the detail though, and the detail comes from the diet in combo with solid supp protocol and quality supps. training diet and supps all gotta be on point to get best result.
but liek I said put the work in now and grow into that show you'll look a lot better and have more pop, none of that flatness, more of a full blown look.
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he had a nice long thread from last progress from really out of shape to good then last part was contest portion,it had alot of crazy stuff thrown in as well 'wacky turns'twists 'humorous at times,i would put a thread somewhere else to track it,problem is if navy_mike wants traffic and lot of reads/posts it has to stay here good or bad in g/o board...
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he had a nice long thread from last progress from really out of shape to good then last part was contest portion,it had alot of crazy stuff thrown in as well 'wacky turns'twists 'humorous at times,i would put a thread somewhere else to track it,problem is if navy_mike wants traffic and lot of reads/posts it has to stay here good or bad in g/o board...
yes i followed the thread pretty well. He did well for himself no doubt got in good shape considering his starting point.
He's at a good place to start if he can get rid of that water quickly IMO. I don't think he gained more than a couple %'s onto his actual bf, its just a lot of water. I'm lucky I don't have water issues like that.
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yes i followed the thread pretty well. He did well for himself no doubt got in good shape considering his starting point.
He's at a good place to start if he can get rid of that water quickly IMO. I don't think he gained more than a couple %'s onto his actual bf, its just a lot of water. I'm lucky I don't have water issues like that.
for him his structure overall good,down point he's a stocky build type 'ok'works well in the end if on point ,its he holds water abs/pecs easy smooth look and that is focal point you see either on beach or stage 'dry'look needed ,thats his water spot,i'm opposite legs i needed to squeeze water out'seperation wise..
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for him his structure overall good,down point he's a stocky build type 'ok'works well in the end if on point ,its he holds water abs/pecs easy smooth look and that is focal point you see either on beach or stage 'dry'look needed ,thats his water spot,i'm opposite legs i needed to squeeze water out'seperation wise..
im the same way as you bro, upper body can be sliced but legs look offseason. then you diet more and lose more fat so the legs look more cut and upper body looks weak..... even if its ripped even more than before.
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You really need chest big time mike, arms and delts are set as njflex says.
You are holding ton of water, I'd get on the dry stuff PRONTO and clean the diet up quick; if you can get into shape a few weeks before hand you can grow into your show and come in bigger- plus the added effect of the muscle growing and pushing out against the skin, as opposed to getting big as fuck and dieting down and having loose skin (And thus less definition), this will be a better look for you man.
as for your chest, you need to hammer the fuck out of it cus your like the white phil heath in that regard. dont train arms or delts you got those, throw in extra chest work, go 2x a week and you can improve it a good deal- it won't be dominant like your arms and delts because you are arm and delt dominant, but you can improve it a good deal. Do lot of pre exhaust work on that second workout, 5 sets of pec dec flyes or something, then light presses but strong contraction and full ROM nice and slow- anything to take your tris and delts out of the movement. I really like machine inclines atm, they give me a lot of control with my rep speed and I can easily adjust the weight or do drop sets or whatever I feel like. You havent really posted about your supps, and I understand why devils in the detail though, and the detail comes from the diet in combo with solid supp protocol and quality supps. training diet and supps all gotta be on point to get best result.
but liek I said put the work in now and grow into that show you'll look a lot better and have more pop, none of that flatness, more of a full blown look.
Fantastic! Thank you makes perfect sense, I feel like that will work very well for me. If you want we can pm about the supps
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spend some time tonight and came up with what i plan on following for the next few weeks to tighten up. If i stay on cardio this should do the trick... I lower the carbs at 10 weeks out and start carb cycling this time and start with 2 days low carb one day high and one mod.. as the weeks progress i will lower the amount of carbs on the high day and then start adding more low and mod carb days.. i think the low days will be around 70g or so until the last 3 weeks when ill drop it ultra low for 3 or 4 days then refeed on the high day then right back down to low days... this is the plan anyways
Meal 1 1 ½ cup egg whites 6.5 oz potatoes .7oz almonds
Meal 2 7oz lean turkey, and 6.5oz potatoes
Meal 3 7oz lean turkey, and 6.5oz potatoes .7oz almonds
Meal 4 7oz lean turkey, and 6.5oz potatoes
Meal 5 7oz lean turkey, and 6.5oz potatoes .7oz almonds
Meal 6 7oz lean turkey, and 6.5oz potatoes
PROTIEN: 295g 50% 1180 cal
CARBS: 220g 37% 880 cal 2735 total
FATS : 75g 13% 675 cal
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Fantastic! Thank you makes perfect sense, I feel like that will work very well for me. If you want we can pm about the supps
yeah shoot me a pm, lmk what you did last time and what you plan to do this time around and I'll see if you can improve it at all
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i don't know what core thinks,,but that diet while good on paper ,is same protein meal in and out and fats,i would say you have to get the best sources and mix them up..it could be 3-4 days of this and swap lean meat 'red'good for fullness and aminos.and fish/fish/fish very good source on other days or wk on of what u wroye ,next week mis turk/red meat/fish in and out each meal,fats are good bur while you getting slowly back eat pbutter too..that same diet your body will adapt and not give you same look/results you would have previous,,fullness and muscle look needs to be maintained best it can while dieting,need to give body no chance to get used to same ol same ol...eat salad too with plain balsamic keeps you not hungry..your so far aaway just get beach lean for now...
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i don't know what core thinks,,but that diet while good on paper ,is same protein meal in and out and fats,i would say you have to get the best sources and mix them up..it could be 3-4 days of this and swap lean meat 'red'good for fullness and aminos.and fish/fish/fish very good source on other days or wk on of what u wroye ,next week mis turk/red meat/fish in and out each meal,fats are good bur while you getting slowly back eat pbutter too..that same diet your body will adapt and not give you same look/results you would have previous,,fullness and muscle look needs to be maintained best it can while dieting,need to give body no chance to get used to same ol same ol...eat salad too with plain balsamic keeps you not hungry..your so far aaway just get beach lean for now...
Heres what I think. You're going to get bored of that diet real quick. Its very generic. I highly recommend having 2 or 3 different meals to pick from. Have chicken, beef, fish, all in your fridge and add carbs to each meal as you see fit. Keep protein the same, but use the carbs to adjust your cals as needed. If you are on the right supps you will not lose an ounce of lean tissue. l also think you can drop one of the meals and you'd be fine. You would lose fat faster by cutting out a meal. If you get too stringy you can always add it back in. Or up carbs in another meal. Personally I suggest staying away from veges as they can bloat you or at least they do it to me. Get creative in the kitchen too, I eat fajitas just chicken ajd rice with tortilla and fats dropping off nicely. Don't have to have boring cookie cutter diet to get lean, but be realistic and dont go overboard. Make sure sodium is at absolute minimum since you are water prone.drink plenty too, and no not what shizzo likes lol. Njflex has great advice too take him up on it, but beware of the greens they can and will bloat you if you aren't used to veges being a staple in your diet.
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Heres what I think. You're going to get bored of that diet real quick. Its very generic. I highly recommend having 2 or 3 different meals to pick from. Have chicken, beef, fish, all in your fridge and add carbs to each meal as you see fit. Keep protein the same, but use the carbs to adjust your cals as needed. If you are on the right supps you will not lose an ounce of lean tissue. l also think you can drop one of the meals and you'd be fine. You would lose fat faster by cutting out a meal. If you get too stringy you can always add it back in. Or up carbs in another meal. Personally I suggest staying away from veges as they can bloat you or at least they do it to me. Get creative in the kitchen too, I eat fajitas just chicken ajd rice with tortilla and fats dropping off nicely. Don't have to have boring cookie cutter diet to get lean, but be realistic and dont go overboard. Make sure sodium is at absolute minimum since you are water prone.drink plenty too, and no not what shizzo likes lol. Njflex has great advice too take him up on it, but beware of the greens they can and will bloat you if you aren't used to veges being a staple in your diet.
I should have stated that the meat can be chicken, fish, turkey or shrimp
The carbs can be oats, Potatos, white or sweet. And or rice as long as the macros are the same.
I've been thinking about adding a steak in every other nights at the last meal for fats as well
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I gotcha. Dont overcomplicate things but have the variety. Btw I'd get the oats out of there man takes way too long to digest imo.good for adding size but has no place in a contest diet especially if you hold water like you do, they stay in your system too long you want your carbs digested fast in and out used only for energy. Shoot me a pm when you get a chance also. Steak os good for a treat for sure its a solid choice this fsr out but once you get closer like 4 weeks out I think white fish is best choice or chicken. Red meat has lot of sodium in n you can't afford to have too much in there
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cool core...thats why eating some 'red meat'as you start losing for now is ok,plenty time...enjoy summer in good lean shape'beach/gym'lean
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Very cool - I will be there taking pics for BB.com and NPC News. Should be fun. The contest will be at the Scottish Rite Center in San Diego.
Saturday, Oct 4th - 8:00am - Men's Bodybuilders athlete brief followed by weigh-ins/check-ins.
Saturday, Oct 4th - 10:00am - Judging
Saturday, Oct 4th - 6:00pm - Finals for all classes
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Biggest flaw...chest or lack thereof. Focus on that thing!
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Very cool - I will be there taking pics for BB.com and NPC News. Should be fun. The contest will be at the Scottish Rite Center in San Diego.
Saturday, Oct 4th - 8:00am - Men's Bodybuilders athlete brief followed by weigh-ins/check-ins.
Saturday, Oct 4th - 10:00am - Judging
Saturday, Oct 4th - 6:00pm - Finals for all classes
damn san diego.. i love that city i used to live in mira mesa. i have friends still there, they have a sick beach house over on mission beach.
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Hey guys been upping the cardio and water intake. Water is starting to come off. I'm holding a bit due to vitamin d. Looking it just kill it before the diet starts kickin in and the strength decreases. So far I feel great and liking my starting point
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Good work man big improvement! I think you got a good shot at this contest dude. Thats great changes in just a few days be proud of.yourself and keep hittin it hard.
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Suffer for us.
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Lookin gorgeous and muscly navy!
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Good work man big improvement! I think you got a good shot at this contest dude. Thats great changes in just a few days be proud of.yourself and keep hittin it hard.
Yes sir I will! I want to take one home for get big this time!!
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could beef up the traps a bit too mike delts overpower em.... damnit stop pinning delts! jk
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Wut gym is that? Its in Cali? Looking good btw.
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Looking pretty strong.
Are you related to dan18 ?
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Been carb cycling to drop water and lean up some. Down to 214. Been hitting just and hams twice a week as core suggested
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Wut gym is that? Its in Cali? Looking good btw.
La fit here in San Diego
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good lat spread..
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Been carb cycling and the wieghts just droping of was 204 this am.. Feel like shit...
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Been carb cycling and the wieghts just droping of was 204 this am.. Feel like shit...
CHEST LOOKS IMPROVED DUDE,BUT GYNO IS FLARING UP..
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yep, that gynos gotta go, a pictures for life mate.
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Definately made some changes in last few weeks.keep it up.
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Hey guys, after some deep thinking I've made of my mind to throw my hat into another contest. I'm going to take everything I learned from last time and apply it to this prep. I'm excited given a full 12 week prep and the proper sups for this one. I look forward to getting help and support from you guys again
Currently 220 and in decent shape I'll start cleaning up my diet some before the 7 of July when I start my prep
Decent shape?
For a sumo wrestler maybe.
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Totally agree I need more sweep and SEPARATION that's what I'm shooting for this time around.
These things are genetic.
What are you going to do (besides the obvious overeating) about it?
Deeper squats?
Different feet positions during leg press?
You need to get lean and the separation will be there, you weren't lean the last time, this is why you "lack" separation.
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You really need chest big time mike, arms and delts are set as njflex says.
You are holding ton of water, I'd get on the dry stuff PRONTO and clean the diet up quick; if you can get into shape a few weeks before hand you can grow into your show and come in bigger- plus the added effect of the muscle growing and pushing out against the skin, as opposed to getting big as fuck and dieting down and having loose skin (And thus less definition), this will be a better look for you man.
as for your chest, you need to hammer the fuck out of it cus your like the white phil heath in that regard. dont train arms or delts you got those, throw in extra chest work, go 2x a week and you can improve it a good deal- it won't be dominant like your arms and delts because you are arm and delt dominant, but you can improve it a good deal. Do lot of pre exhaust work on that second workout, 5 sets of pec dec flyes or something, then light presses but strong contraction and full ROM nice and slow- anything to take your tris and delts out of the movement. I really like machine inclines atm, they give me a lot of control with my rep speed and I can easily adjust the weight or do drop sets or whatever I feel like. You havent really posted about your supps, and I understand why devils in the detail though, and the detail comes from the diet in combo with solid supp protocol and quality supps. training diet and supps all gotta be on point to get best result.
but liek I said put the work in now and grow into that show you'll look a lot better and have more pop, none of that flatness, more of a full blown look.
What are you, some comedian?
Holding water?
He is fat, he has fat rolls on his abs.
Lol, grow into show, have you done this before? No you did not.
Fix the chest imbalance in 12 weeks, where did you get this from? Flex magazine?
Devil in the detail about "supps"?
Is that so?
There was me thinking everybody's running the same stuff.
I bet you look even worse than Mike.
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What are you, some comedian?
Holding water?
He is fat, he has fat rolls on his abs.
Lol, grow into show, have you done this before? No you did not.
Fix the chest imbalance in 12 weeks, where did you get this from? Flex magazine?
Devil in the detail about "supps"?
Is that so?
There was me thinking everybody's running the same stuff.
I bet you look even worse than Mike.
Great constructive advice there... Yep I'm fat. If you don't have any thing productive to honestly say then troll some where else... Unless you throw some pics of you looking great then I'll gladly stfu
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yep, that gynos gotta go, a pictures for life mate.
Ya I noticed that as well seem to come out of nowhere. I'll run letro for a week it should suck it right ip
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Ya I noticed that as well seem to come out of nowhere. I'll run letro for a week it should suck it right ip
Surgery is the answer Mike, you will be throwing money at it the rest of your life, just go and get the glands removed.
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Surgery is the answer Mike, you will be throwing money at it the rest of your life, just go and get the glands removed.
How much is that? I'd imagen Atleast a a couple grand
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Noticeable improvements, keep it up bro
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Meal 1 1 ½ cup egg whites 6.5 oz potatoes .7oz almonds
Meal 2 7oz lean turkey, and 6.5oz potatoes
Meal 3 7oz lean turkey, and 6.5oz potatoes .7oz almonds
Meal 4 7oz lean turkey, and 6.5oz potatoes
Meal 5 7oz lean turkey, and 6.5oz potatoes .7oz almonds
Meal 6 7oz lean turkey, and 6.5oz potatoes
PROTIEN: 295g 50% 1180 cal
CARBS: 220g 37% 880 cal 2735 total
FATS : 75g 13% 675 cal
How do You get 75g fats from it if 0,21oz almonds is only about ~30g fats.
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You got fat so quick, you did a contest not that long ago :'(
Not to flame, but may be this isn't for you. You're a naturally bulky thick skinned person, you cut for ages and ages then still look like a perma bulker.
Or may be you just haven't learned to use the right "products" which suit your genetics. Or you're one of those bodybuilders that needs extreme dieting to get there, i.e. boiled chicken and broccoli with water diet.
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Great constructive advice there... Yep I'm fat. If you don't have any thing productive to honestly say then troll some where else... Unless you throw some pics of you looking great then I'll gladly stfu
Oh dear ;D
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Great constructive advice there... Yep I'm fat. If you don't have any thing productive to honestly say then troll some where else... Unless you throw some pics of you looking great then I'll gladly stfu
I was honest, but it looks like you don't want any reality assessments.
You want people to sugarcoat your condition.
You have been fat even when you were in your personal competition shape, and have said you will never allow yourself to get fat again.
Couple weeks later you are a permabulker.
You want pictures? My camera is currently broken, but let me tell you, you would look better if you never started lifting, just like many young guys do.
Who are just lean and have no muscle.
You are like them, just with the additional fat and the steroid water.
And, nice titonas, can you shoot milk out of them?
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You got fat so quick, you did a contest not that long ago :'(
Not to flame, but may be this isn't for you. You're a naturally bulky thick skinned person, you cut for ages and ages then still look like a perma bulker.
Or may be you just haven't learned to use the right "products" which suit your genetics. Or you're one of those bodybuilders that needs extreme dieting to get there, i.e. boiled chicken and broccoli with water diet.
He was never leaner than what people aim for when they want to look good on the beach.
You know what would suit his genetics?
Sumo
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And, nice titonas, can you shoot milk out of them?
Pmsl ;D
Definitely to be added to my vocabulary
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Noticeable improvements, keep it up bro
Improvements?
In what?
Hair density?
Better teeth?
I think your vision is blurred from all the cuckold witnessing.
You are the guy with the girl who had her can opened by another guy, if i'm not mistaken.
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Navy Mike, all joking aside, what is your favorite lingerie brand?
Where do you buy your bras?
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yep, that gynos gotta go, a pictures for life mate.
No, why?
It blends in splendidly with the other million flaws.
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You got fat so quick, you did a contest not that long ago :'(
Not to flame, but may be this isn't for you. You're a naturally bulky thick skinned person, you cut for ages and ages then still look like a perma bulker.
Or may be you just haven't learned to use the right "products" which suit your genetics. Or you're one of those bodybuilders that needs extreme dieting to get there, i.e. boiled chicken and broccoli with water diet.
I agree,should have stayed much leaner in between contests.
Just my 2 cc`s!
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Improvements?
In what?
Hair density?
Better teeth?
I think your vision is blurred from all the cuckold witnessing.
You are the guy with the girl who had her can opened by another guy, if i'm not mistaken.
not him...enzo is good dude here,,sick build too..c.c.your posts are good tho..i have followed his threads and given him good assesment and critique to where he needs to be on stage as oppossed to good gym/mirror /everyday good build look.he seems to be ok at time on listening to feedback other times not.he needs to listen to 'a'himself or 'b'a trainer 'diet'guy and him only and not come here during prep and pick brains here too,too many chefs then...
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not him...enzo is good dude here,,sick build too..c.c.your posts are good tho..
Nah its Nick Toscini , the G4p, spunk stomached, cuckhold.
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Nah its Nick Toscini , the G4p, spunk stomached, cuckhold.
;)
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Improvements?
In what?
Hair density?
Better teeth?
I think your vision is blurred from all the cuckold witnessing.
You are the guy with the girl who had her can opened by another guy, if i'm not mistaken.
He's leaner..
You're a meaningless troll, that's unmistakable
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Nah its Nick Toscini , the G4p, spunk stomached, cuckhold.
But would it surprise anybody if Enzo did the same?
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I'm dropping wieght like crazy and stay pretty full.. I was 200 this morning so that's 24lbs in 2 1/2 weeks. Legs are starting to have more detail at 9 weeks out then 2 weeks out last time. All in all I'm very happy with my progress. I'm dieting complete different this time as well
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lot of fat and water in the mid section. thats how you should look middle of offseason bro.
Wes please post the carb cycling diet you always post
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lot of fat and water in the mid section. thats how you should look middle of offseason bro.
Wes please post the carb cycling diet you always post
i would stay put here no less,lean enough and still being able to train heavy and enjoy life a bit,,show is in oct why would you get leaner jul/aug,mid tolate aug is when the big push should take place and getting in gear'no pun intended'
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i would stay put here no less,lean enough and still being able to train heavy and enjoy life a bit,,show is in oct why would you get leaner jul/aug,mid tolate aug is when the big push should take place and getting in gear'no pun intended'
I dont wanna sound negative but there's about 25lbs to lose IMO. That last 10lbs will be a bitch too. Id get to it and lose the fat quick and be ready beforehand, then maintain 6% until 2-3 weeks out and then drop to 5% or below if possible.
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I dont wanna sound negative but there's about 25lbs to lose IMO. That last 10lbs will be a bitch too. Id get to it and lose the fat quick and be ready beforehand, then maintain 6% until 2-3 weeks out and then drop to 5% or below if possible.
Good advice.
I like this navy mike fella. He certainly isn't blessed with great shape, size or structure, but I does great with what tools he has. You can tell there is passion there.
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Good advice.
I like this navy mike fella. He certainly isn't blessed with great shape, size or structure, but I does great with what tools he has. You can tell there is passion there.
yes there is! just gotta channel it the right way... enough of that bb.com cookie cutter diet crap guys gotta 'suffer' like sev has his guys do. He's got muscle unlike sevs guys lol so he'll look great if he can get to borat level of conditioning
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yes there is! just gotta channel it the right way... enough of that bb.com cookie cutter diet crap guys gotta 'suffer' like sev has his guys do. He's got muscle unlike sevs guys lol so he'll look great if he can get to borat level of conditioning
x2,,,
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I my not be the biggest and my structor my not be Phil heaths but I think it's pretty decent
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I my not be the biggest and my structor my not be Phil heaths but I think it's pretty decent
At least you are wider than Heath. ;)
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At least you are wider than Heath. ;)
he actually is thats whats really funny
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lot of fat and water in the mid section. thats how you should look middle of offseason bro.
Wes please post the carb cycling diet you always post
Mike had all the advice last time and just did his own thing.
He wont listen again this time around.