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Title: RIP Tony Gwynn
Post by: Mr Anabolic on June 16, 2014, 08:51:45 AM
54 years old... WTF?
Title: Re: RIP Tony Gwynn
Post by: calfzilla on June 16, 2014, 09:46:26 AM
Sad. Why did he died?  A great Hebrew player with outstanding batting avg.  :'(
Title: Re: RIP Tony Gwynn
Post by: Mr Anabolic on June 16, 2014, 09:48:07 AM
Sad. Why did he died?  A great Hebrew player with outstanding batting avg.  :'(

Cancer of the mouth and throat from using chewing tobacco for 20+ years.
Title: Re: RIP Tony Gwynn
Post by: calfzilla on June 16, 2014, 09:56:45 AM
Cancer of the mouth and throat from using chewing tobacco for 20+ years.

 :-X
Title: Re: RIP Tony Gwynn
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 16, 2014, 10:04:54 AM
Thats a tough one to take. One of the nicest guys in baseball.
Title: Re: RIP Tony Gwynn
Post by: njflex on June 16, 2014, 10:05:33 AM
Thats a tough one to take. One of the nicest guys in baseball.
X2 CLASS ACT..
Title: Re: RIP Tony Gwynn
Post by: The Ugly on June 16, 2014, 11:14:39 AM
Too sad. Our generation's Ted Williams. Like Coach said, the guy was pure class. RIP.

Fuck.
Title: Re: RIP Tony Gwynn
Post by: Leatherneck on June 16, 2014, 11:18:08 AM
This will become a sad trend with retired baseball players dying young. Tobacco use has unfortunate consequences. RIP Tony.
Title: Re: RIP Tony Gwynn
Post by: The Ugly on June 16, 2014, 11:25:28 AM
This will become a sad trend with retired baseball players dying young. Tobacco use has unfortunate consequences. RIP Tony.

I thought MLB banned it in the 80s. On the field, anyway.
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Post by: wild willie on June 16, 2014, 03:54:59 PM
Mr. Gwynn was a sensational ball player......my thoughts and prayers go out to his family.
Title: Re: RIP Tony Gwynn
Post by: kh300 on June 16, 2014, 05:49:03 PM
Shit. Got 18 years of dipping in. Walked off the baseball field and never quit.  :-[
Title: Re: RIP Tony Gwynn
Post by: Marty Champions on June 17, 2014, 06:31:22 AM
From 1989 sports Illustrated issue

Will Clark
" I always advised Tony to stop eating so much and chew chewing tobaccos. Tobacco makes you lose weight, but Tony kept eating damn near lost ever hair. Ive always relied on a good diet not much chew, I tried to avoid that meat because of the iron"
(http://www.homeruncards.com/imagesrc/will-clark.jpg)(http://mlbcardvalue.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/1987-will-clark-rookie-card.jpg)
Title: Re: RIP Tony Gwynn
Post by: calfzilla on June 17, 2014, 06:48:20 AM
From 1989 sports Illustrated issue

Will Clark
" I always advised Tony to stop eating so much and chew chewing tobaccos. Tobacco makes you lose weight, but Tony kept eating damn near lost ever hair. Ive always relied on a good diet not much chew, I tried to avoid that meat because of the iron"
(http://www.homeruncards.com/imagesrc/will-clark.jpg)(http://mlbcardvalue.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/1987-will-clark-rookie-card.jpg)

Pretty sure will clark lost his hair
Title: Re: RIP Tony Gwynn
Post by: Royalty on June 17, 2014, 07:03:41 AM
Nice post Falcon!

No shit - I still have that exact Topps baseball card in my collection somewhere in the basement, I think. Along with my treasured Mark McGwire rookie card. All told, worth about 10 cents. I'll be rich someday.


McGwire tore it up in 87! Was he on roids back then? He looked kinda thin.


RIP  Tony Gwynn!!!
Title: Re: RIP Tony Gwynn
Post by: Desolate on July 09, 2014, 10:42:45 PM
R.I.P. Tony.

You were a great player.
Title: Re: RIP Tony Gwynn
Post by: The Ugly on July 09, 2014, 10:46:54 PM

McGwire tore it up in 87! Was he on roids back then? He looked kinda thin.


I'd bet against it, and he still hit, what, 49?

Just like Bonds, dude was a Hall shoo-in who needlessly fucked up his legacy.
Title: Re: RIP Tony Gwynn
Post by: ESFitness on July 09, 2014, 11:17:39 PM
I'd bet against it, and he still hit, what, 49?

Just like Bonds, dude was a Hall shoo-in who needlessly fucked up his legacy.

he didn't fuck it up.. MLB fucked it up for him.

MLB shit on all the guys who saved MLB from going the way of professional bowling.

what business do senators/congress have in investigating baseball, and questioning and requiring former players to testify before congress?

Title: Re: RIP Tony Gwynn
Post by: The Ugly on July 09, 2014, 11:22:06 PM
he didn't fuck it up.. MLB fucked it up for him.

MLB shit on all the guys who saved MLB from going the way of professional bowling.

what business do senators/congress have in investigating baseball, and questioning and requiring former players to testify before congress?



Fine. Convince the Hall, I'm sure he'd appreciate it.
Title: Re: RIP Tony Gwynn
Post by: ESFitness on July 09, 2014, 11:36:55 PM
Fine. Convince the Hall, I'm sure he'd appreciate it.

what does the hall of fame mean?

doesn't mean shit to me.

you think he'll be forgotten if he's not in it? I doubt it.

you know many times I've checked to see who's in the hall of fame? zero. you know how many guys are in there that I could care less about? a lot.

what does any 'hall of fame' mean? aren't they already famous? didn't they already play? and break records? and stand out amongst their peers?

in a league in which PED's were used widely, a player who used PED's broke records and is shamed for it? who'd he compete against? weren't the majority of other players also on PED's? why didn't they break the same records?

the hall of fame means jack-shit to most people... whether it's MLB, NFL, NBA, Nascar, WWE, Rock n Roll, etc... you get voted in by your peers? no you don't... a group of guys decides on whether or not you made an impact? no they don't.
Title: Re: RIP Tony Gwynn
Post by: The Ugly on July 10, 2014, 12:37:05 AM
what does the hall of fame mean?

doesn't mean shit to me.

you think he'll be forgotten if he's not in it? I doubt it.

you know many times I've checked to see who's in the hall of fame? zero. you know how many guys are in there that I could care less about? a lot.

what does any 'hall of fame' mean? aren't they already famous? didn't they already play? and break records? and stand out amongst their peers?

in a league in which PED's were used widely, a player who used PED's broke records and is shamed for it? who'd he compete against? weren't the majority of other players also on PED's? why didn't they break the same records?

the hall of fame means jack-shit to most people... whether it's MLB, NFL, NBA, Nascar, WWE, Rock n Roll, etc... you get voted in by your peers? no you don't... a group of guys decides on whether or not you made an impact? no they don't.

Thanks for your input. If it doesn't mean anything to you, it's obviously irrelevant. Perhaps you should let them know so they can tear the place down and end the silly charade.
Title: Re: RIP Tony Gwynn
Post by: ESFitness on July 10, 2014, 12:38:42 AM
Thanks for your input. If it doesn't mean anything to you, it's obviously irrelevant. Perhaps you should let them know so they can tear the place down and end the silly charade.

they charge admission, and pay themselves salaries. only reason they exist.
Title: Re: RIP Tony Gwynn
Post by: indie-lad on July 10, 2014, 05:35:04 AM
Nice post Falcon!

No shit - I still have that exact Topps baseball card in my collection somewhere in the basement, I think. Along with my treasured Mark McGwire rookie card. All told, worth about 10 cents. I'll be rich someday.


I had the rookie cards of all my baseball heroes of youth; Jose Canseco, Mark McGwire, Barry Bonds, Doc Gooden and my favorite of all -- Darryl Strawberry.

LOL! When I was a kid I thought I had the best collection ever and I would have a fortune when they all retired and went to the HOF. Every single one of those players fucked up in one way or another and their value sunk like a boat anchor. Eventually, I couldn't even give those cards away and they all ended up at a Goodwill.
Title: Re: RIP Tony Gwynn
Post by: Royalty on July 10, 2014, 06:41:25 AM
they charge admission, and pay themselves salaries. only reason they exist.


You don't play baseball, so it's normal not to care about the Hall of Fame

But...

The HOF means a LOT to MLB players. It's one of their goals in life. They see it as a great achievement.
Title: Re: RIP Tony Gwynn
Post by: The Ugly on July 10, 2014, 10:47:46 AM
they charge admission, and pay themselves salaries. only reason they exist.

If others enjoy it, is that ok?
Title: Re: RIP Tony Gwynn
Post by: ESFitness on July 10, 2014, 01:24:25 PM

You don't play baseball, so it's normal not to care about the Hall of Fame

But...

The HOF means a LOT to MLB players. It's one of their goals in life. They see it as a great achievement.

I played baseball for 14yrs and was scouted by florida state and AZ... neither offered scholarships.
Title: Re: RIP Tony Gwynn
Post by: Simple Simon on July 10, 2014, 01:35:43 PM
I played baseball for 14yrs and was scouted by florida state and AZ... neither offered scholarships.
binderdundat.
Title: Re: RIP Tony Gwynn
Post by: Mr Anabolic on July 10, 2014, 01:41:24 PM
Nice post Falcon!

No shit - I still have that exact Topps baseball card in my collection somewhere in the basement, I think. Along with my treasured Mark McGwire rookie card. All told, worth about 10 cents. I'll be rich someday.

I have all the rookie cards from the 80's and 90's.  I was rich, then the bottom fell out -lol

Bubbles and the manias of crowds are very interesting... I've studied many of them all throughout history.  The tulip bulb mania of 1637 is one everyone should familiarize themselves with. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulip_mania (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulip_mania)

Right now the bubble is housing (2nd one within 10 years, which is rare) and the stock market.

People need to realize... something is only worth what someone else is willing to pay you for it.
Title: Re: RIP Tony Gwynn
Post by: Grape Ape on July 10, 2014, 01:42:47 PM

You don't play baseball, so it's normal not to care about the Hall of Fame

But...

The HOF means a LOT to MLB players. It's one of their goals in life. They see it as a great achievement.

I am a baseball fanatic.

And even to me, the mystique of The Hall has been hampered a bit, when players like Rice, and even Puckett, got in.  It should have been for the elite, not the very, very good.

It will be even worse when the Boston media machine forces in Ortiz, and Tim Raines still isn't in.

Title: Re: RIP Tony Gwynn
Post by: The Ugly on July 10, 2014, 02:17:30 PM
I am a baseball fanatic.

And even to me, the mystique of The Hall has been hampered a bit, when players like Rice, and even Puckett, got in.  It should have been for the elite, not the very, very good.

It will be even worse when the Boston media machine forces in Ortiz, and Tim Raines still isn't in.



Where do you stand on Rose?
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Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on July 10, 2014, 05:42:09 PM
Charlie Hustle should be in the Hall of Fame, no question. Hope to see it in my lifetime(more like Pete's lifetime)
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Post by: Archer77 on July 10, 2014, 05:50:57 PM
I have a glove personally signed by Gwynn.   I met him as a kid and he signed my glove.
Title: Re: RIP Tony Gwynn
Post by: Royalty on July 10, 2014, 05:54:33 PM
It'd be nice to see Don Mattingly get in the HOF.

But I think that back injuries hampered him and shortened his career.
Title: Re: RIP Tony Gwynn
Post by: njflex on July 10, 2014, 06:08:42 PM
It'd be nice to see Don Mattingly get in the HOF.

But I think that back injuries hampered him and shortened his career.
ONLY 3 TERRIFIC YRS IN ROW AND THE REST DECENT,,I LOVED HIS PLAY BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS,,
Title: Re: RIP Tony Gwynn
Post by: The Ugly on July 10, 2014, 08:26:59 PM
Charlie Hustle should be in the Hall of Fame, no question. Hope to see it in my lifetime(more like Pete's lifetime)

Totally agree. He does himself no favors, though, lying about what he did, then not showing up for his appeal and such. Character-wise, I get the controversy, but they've admitted plenty of turds (Ty Cobb, for instance). There's no reason at all he shouldn't make it based on performance. Anyway, I'm sure he'll enter posthumously, which is probably what they're waiting for.

Kinda like Basile with the blue stars.
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Post by: Wayne Root on July 10, 2014, 08:52:00 PM
Don Mattingly was a great player and has enormous stature and character. I wish he was better as a manager and tactician. Nope. All the great ones who try to manage suck at it.

God bless MLB for keeping out Pete Rose. Gambling destroys the integrity of the game. A person will manage a game completely differently with a wager on the game. Plus, Pete is a major-league douchebag as a human being. Justice!
Title: Re: RIP Tony Gwynn
Post by: ESFitness on July 10, 2014, 08:54:21 PM
Don Mattingly was a great player and has enormous stature and character. I wish he was better as a manager and tactician. Nope. All the great ones who try to manage suck at it.

God bless MLB for keeping out Pete Rose. Gambling destroys the integrity of the game. A person will manage a game completely differently with a wager on the game. Plus, Pete is a major-league douchebag as a human being. Justice!

rose just got caught.

he's not the only one who's gambled.

they'll never take away how many hits he has, much less how hard he played.

that's the first 'chink' in the HOF's legitimacy... steroid-exclusions are the second.
Title: Re: RIP Tony Gwynn
Post by: The Ugly on July 10, 2014, 08:59:38 PM
Don Mattingly was a great player and has enormous stature and character. I wish he was better as a manager and tactician. Nope. All the great ones who try to manage suck at it.

God bless MLB for keeping out Pete Rose. Gambling destroys the integrity of the game. A person will manage a game completely differently with a wager on the game. Plus, Pete is a major-league douchebag as a human being. Justice!

Gambling, yes, bad. Douchebag? Sure, but Cobb rushed the stands to beat the shit out of a handless fan who called him a "half-ni66er." Dude was a monster, yet he made it in.
Title: Re: RIP Tony Gwynn
Post by: The Ugly on July 10, 2014, 10:04:26 PM
rose just got caught.

he's not the only one who's gambled.

they'll never take away how many hits he has, much less how hard he played.

that's the first 'chink' in the HOF's legitimacy... steroid-exclusions are the second.

Of course others have probably gambled. And yes, he did get caught, so what did you/he expect? It's right up there on the top of the list of shit you just don't do. Gambled on his own team, no less. Win or lose, you have to understand how this compromises the integrity of the game. And all the fucker had to do was apologize, but he couldn't. One of the best players ever, so he deserves his spot in the Hall, but you can't really blame them for his exclusion.

As for the 90s roids era, fuck 'em. I'm glad the Hall is keeping all those fuckers out. The purist in me still considers Maris and Aaron the HR kings, as much as I liked McGwire at the time. Until they officially allow the shit for everyone, it's cheating. Fuck it, I'm old school that way.