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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Frank Clairmonte on June 19, 2014, 02:10:58 PM
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Great combination of mass and aesthetics, probably his best showing ever in my book.
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2012/mr-olympia-prejudging-2.jpg)(http://www.extrifit.cz/files/2-_kai_greene_2012/pb77092wtmk.jpg)
(http://africanmuscle.com/Mag/Mag/mr-olympia-2012-kai-greene.jpg)
(http://www.kulturistika.com/sites/default/files/picturesweb/20123009/Kai-Greene.JPG)
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I agree. He should have won in 2012. :(
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Great combination of mass and aesthetics, probably his best showing ever in my book.
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2012/mr-olympia-prejudging-2.jpg)(http://www.extrifit.cz/files/2-_kai_greene_2012/pb77092wtmk.jpg)
(http://africanmuscle.com/Mag/Mag/mr-olympia-2012-kai-greene.jpg)
(http://www.kulturistika.com/sites/default/files/picturesweb/20123009/Kai-Greene.JPG)
YES, YOU ARE RIGHT, BUT THE JUDGES WAS BLIND. HE WAS THE WINNER, BUT THIS WHAT IFBB JUDGES.
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Should have won the mr o = yes
One of the best physiques ever = no
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Kai has been consistently the only "wow" physique as far as I'm concerned.
Yes....even when he dropped placings
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I was there at the show, by him self he looked unbeatable once he stood next to Phil it was no comparison
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I was there at the show, by him self he looked unbeatable once he stood next to Phil it was no comparison
::) ::) ::)
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Garbage.
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He peaked right there wont ever have that combination again, still battling structure wise against the very best in the sport but still better in that department than big Ron who managed to win his share of olympia s with just size and condition.
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He peaked right there wont ever have that combination again, still battling structure wise against the very best in the sport but still better in that department than big Ron who managed to win his share of olympia s with just size and condition.
I disagree. Ronnie had a better structure. It was only when he went to El Monstro levels did he looked flawed. He had a small waist, and was 5'10-11, so he could carry the weight. Kai is 5'8 and looks very compact due to having too much muscle on his frame. Just look at that one shot where he is standing with is arms near his side and abs flexed. His waist/torso lacks a definitive taper...it's a "U" instead of a "V".
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I was there at the show, by him self he looked unbeatable once he stood next to Phil it was no comparison
Right on point...
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He peaked right there wont ever have that combination again, still battling structure wise against the very best in the sport but still better in that department than big Ron who managed to win his share of olympia s with just size and condition.
No
Comparison to ronnie .... On ANY level ronnie bigger harder rounder muscles better muscle insertions better taper etc etc.... Kai isn't even in the same ball park , country or on the same planet...
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Ronnie quads to big for his hamstrings from the side, long legs short torso, long rib cage short midsection, long arms. Muscle and condition for the sake of it Ronnie probably wont ever be surpassed, but structure wise hes the worst mr olympia ever. Kai structure at this point isnt good, but at its best and hes more balanced than Ron particularly through the hammies and calves, yeah his backs short in comparison and Ronnie has far more muscle, but hes more pleasing to the front and side than Ronnie was.
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One of the best physiques ever, no doubt. If the Olympia were held in the nude, that mighty mastiff would have multiples Sandows hanging from it.
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Ronnie quads to big for his hamstrings from the side, long legs short torso, long rib cage short midsection, long arms. Muscle and condition for the sake of it Ronnie probably wont ever be surpassed, but structure wise hes the worst mr olympia ever. Kai structure at this point isnt good, but at its best and hes more balanced than Ron particularly through the hammies and calves, yeah his backs short in comparison and Ronnie has far more muscle, but hes more pleasing to the front and side than Ronnie was.
Wrong.
Ronnie was better from every angle
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Ronnie quads to big for his hamstrings from the side, long legs short torso, long rib cage short midsection, long arms. Muscle and condition for the sake of it Ronnie probably wont ever be surpassed, but structure wise hes the worst mr olympia ever. Kai structure at this point isnt good, but at its best and hes more balanced than Ron particularly through the hammies and calves, yeah his backs short in comparison and Ronnie has far more muscle, but hes more pleasing to the front and side than Ronnie was.
If you look at it that way, then pretty much all of the multiple O winners have terrible structures. Dorian was shaped like a barrel, Haney's arms were too small for his torso, Arnold's waist was too wide, so he needed to twist in different shots.
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Ronnie quads to big for his hamstrings from the side, long legs short torso, long rib cage short midsection, long arms. Muscle and condition for the sake of it Ronnie probably wont ever be surpassed, but structure wise hes the worst mr olympia ever. Kai structure at this point isnt good, but at its best and hes more balanced than Ron particularly through the hammies and calves, yeah his backs short in comparison and Ronnie has far more muscle, but hes more pleasing to the front and side than Ronnie was.
Ronnie is better from every angle
Kai looks like a box next to ronnie
I repeat ronnie is better from every single angle
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Ronnie is better from every angle
Kai looks like a box next to ronnie
I repeat ronnie is better from every single angle
Exactly...
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I was there at the show, by him self he looked unbeatable once he stood next to Phil it was no comparison
Thats because he was 4 feet closer to you than Kai was. Only thing was, you couldn't see him standing 4 feet in front of the line like we could. :D
Srsly though, he was 4 feet closer to you than Kai was.goddamn cheater.
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The Mr O competition was exciting when Ronnie was the champ.
Now, Mr Olympia = boring
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The Mr O competition was exciting when Ronnie was the champ.
Now, Mr Olympia = boring
Well, exciting when he was smaller. By 2004 it was meh. 2005 he looked good again. Then it just got sad.
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He looks damn good, but his faggotry and hair will prevent him from ever winning.
(no homo)
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If you look at it that way, then pretty much all of the multiple O winners have terrible structures. Dorian was shaped like a barrel, Haney's arms were too small for his torso, Arnold's waist was too wide, so he needed to twist in different shots.
Dorian best modern day bodybuilding structure, Arnold best classic structure maybe even bettered by Zane.
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Dorian best modern day bodybuilding structure, Arnold best classic structure maybe even bettered by Zane.
Agreed. Dorians structure was excellent, especially lighter. If you actually lool at the pre judging in 93, his waist was as narrow as most of his competitors. He had an almost perfect skeletal build for the mass he carried as far as torso/limb length goes. His bicep insertions kinda sucked, but that was it.
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Dorian best modern day bodybuilding structure, Arnold best classic structure maybe even bettered by Zane.
I don't think that any of those guys had a better structure than Lee Haney.
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I agree. He should have won in 2012 if Phil didn't compete. :(
Fixed.
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Haneys structure was very good also, just his upper body seemed over developed in comparison to his legs.
Dorian 93 prior to injury and waist growing was as close to perfection in terms of size structure and condition with no obvious overall obvious weaknesses we have seen, for me the look is still to overly dependant on drugs im not a fan of modern bodybuilding but giving credit where its due, Bodybuilding peaked that day, Ronnie had more muscle, but structure wise they are light years apart. Later versions of Dorian also dont compare, Flex earlier in 93 at the ironman must be close to the second best all time shape, with Leverone 92 at the olympia my personal third.
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what about Branch at last ears O
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I don't think that any of those guys had a better structure than Lee Haney.
x2
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Best structure? Sergio Oliva.
For Kai, what a big difference between 2012 and the last Olympia!!
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YES, YOU ARE RIGHT, BUT THE JUDGES WAS BLIND. HE WAS THE WINNER, BUT THIS WHAT IFBB JUDGES.
WHEN JUDGES SEE KAI, THEY SEE ALSO THIS:
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5116/7082126919_3b609e4e07_z.jpg)
END OF STORY, NO MATTER HOW GOOD HE LOOK
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Best structure? Sergio Oliva.
For Kai, what a big difference between 2012 and the last Olympia!!
Kai was over 270lbs last year. He needs to condition it.
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Fixed.
TOTALLY AGREE IT WAS FIXED BEFORE THE SHOW.
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Should have won the mr o = yes
One of the best physiques ever = no
YES, AGREE.
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Dorian best modern day bodybuilding structure, Arnold best classic structure maybe even bettered by Zane.
What, you must be trolling? Levrone famously had saidin which he said that Dorian was not the genetically blessed with a good structure, but he did the best with what he had. And others have said that as well. I believe Dorian himself even said that his structure/physique wasn't "pretty". Dorian was very blocky. The fact is that the best structure or aethestically perfect physique does not win, but the most freakiest.
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Seems that he did plastic surgery to remove his facial scar ?
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What, you must be trolling? Levrone famously had saidin which he said that Dorian was not the genetically blessed with a good structure, but he did the best with what he had. And others have said that as well. I believe Dorian himself even said that his structure/physique wasn't "pretty". Dorian was very blocky. The fact is that the best structure or aethestically perfect physique does not win, but the most freakiest.
Exactly why he said best 'modern' structure. Dude had the perfect structure to carry that freaky mass. You seem tp forget this is subjevtive, there isnt a 'ideal' structure. Its whatever looks good to you. I prefer his structure over a flex, he looks like a tank, massive and powerful, herculean. Not pretty, but no one ever said 'pretty' is ideal.
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Exactly why he said best 'modern' structure. Dude had the perfect structure to carry that freaky mass. You seem tp forget this is subjevtive, there isnt a 'ideal' structure. Its whatever looks good to you. I prefer his structure over a flex, he looks like a tank, massive and powerful, herculean. Not pretty, but no one ever said 'pretty' is ideal.
i got you, and agree with your points.
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Lot if guys between Kai and Coleman
Dillet Nasser Cormier levrone ray I'd even throw Aaron baker in there
It makes me laugh when people compare hear and Kai to Coleman or any of the guys I mentioned
I distinctly remember Cormier saying Kai physique looks like a frog... Harsh but compared to a guy like Cormier .. True... Kai is good for nowadays SHIT STANDARDS but should never be used in any sentence where the word ever follows the word greatest.
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Lot if guys between Kai and Coleman
Dillet Nasser Cormier levrone ray I'd even throw Aaron baker in there
It makes me laugh when people compare hear and Kai to Coleman or any of the guys I mentioned
I distinctly remember Cormier saying Kai physique looks like a frog... Harsh but compared to a guy like Cormier .. True... Kai is good for nowadays SHIT STANDARDS but should never be used in any sentence where the word ever follows the word greatest.
Jeez!
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I agree. He should have won in 2012. :(
Yes but a lot has changed in 2 years. He looks like shit now.
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Now doubt in any sane mind he was the the 2012 winner.
In about 2007 he had this weird squashed torso look.He sorted that. Think that were the frog comment come from.
+ Cormier always seemed pretty precious.
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Haneys structure was very good also, just his upper body seemed over developed in comparison to his legs.
Dorian 93 prior to injury and waist growing was as close to perfection in terms of size structure and condition with no obvious overall obvious weaknesses we have seen, for me the look is still to overly dependant on drugs im not a fan of modern bodybuilding but giving credit where its due, Bodybuilding peaked that day, Ronnie had more muscle, but structure wise they are light years apart. Later versions of Dorian also dont compare, Flex earlier in 93 at the ironman must be close to the second best all time shape, with Leverone 92 at the olympia my personal third.
Excellent post.
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WHEN JUDGES SEE KAI, THEY SEE ALSO THIS:
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5116/7082126919_3b609e4e07_z.jpg)
END OF STORY, NO MATTER HOW GOOD HE LOOK
QFT..
KAI will never win the O
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WHEN JUDGES SEE KAI, THEY SEE ALSO THIS:
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5116/7082126919_3b609e4e07_z.jpg)
END OF STORY, NO MATTER HOW GOOD HE LOOK
TBH that should put him first bearing in mind the backstage shenanigans that goes on in bodybuilding.
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TBH that should put him first bearing in mind the backstage shenanigans that goes on in bodybuilding.
I was gonna say, half the judges were probably present and paying kai for front row seats during the making of that video.
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Ronnie quads to big for his hamstrings from the side, long legs short torso, long rib cage short midsection, long arms. Muscle and condition for the sake of it Ronnie probably wont ever be surpassed, but structure wise hes the worst mr olympia ever. Kai structure at this point isnt good, but at its best and hes more balanced than Ron particularly through the hammies and calves, yeah his backs short in comparison and Ronnie has far more muscle, but hes more pleasing to the front and side than Ronnie was.
Sure.
(http://musclemecca.com/imported-images/2010/05/1999mrolympia1232009083-1.jpg)
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Sure.
(http://musclemecca.com/imported-images/2010/05/1999mrolympia1232009083-1.jpg)
Well the fact that his calves are cut off kind of proves his point.
Too many people get blinded by coleman lust, he was great but he had huge holes and flaws in his physique, just like Doz, just like all mr Os.. Open your eyes.
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Greatest structure ever seen in bodybuiding is Dillett's, the real X frame, with Oliva second probably... Agreed with Shockwave about Coleman and others Olympias...
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(http://31.media.tumblr.com/a9875640c008b9141fd0c0482e9591dc/tumblr_n2i28b1i4G1rs4ej4o1_500.jpg)
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Great combination of mass and aesthetics, probably his best showing ever in my book.
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2012/mr-olympia-prejudging-2.jpg)(http://www.extrifit.cz/files/2-_kai_greene_2012/pb77092wtmk.jpg)
(http://africanmuscle.com/Mag/Mag/mr-olympia-2012-kai-greene.jpg)
(http://www.kulturistika.com/sites/default/files/picturesweb/20123009/Kai-Greene.JPG)
yes, but he needs to untie that synthetic braid on top of his balding head.... :-X
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Kai would probably have a lot better chance at winning if he lopped off that stupid braid
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(http://i36.tinypic.com/35b81o7.gif)
GOAT structure right here, mindblowing...
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WHEN JUDGES SEE KAI, THEY SEE ALSO THIS:
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5116/7082126919_3b609e4e07_z.jpg)
END OF STORY, NO MATTER HOW GOOD HE LOOK
"Your not going to eat that" :o