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spine of peace :D
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the weight belt will save the 400 pounds of pressure on his back, also brutal ils on lift completion
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the weight belt will save the 400 pounds of pressure on his back, also brutal ils on lift completion
I don't think its even 400lbs. Three of the plates on each side are smaller and are probably 15kg. Overall, I think its 150kg (around 330lbs).
Either way, dude won't be deadlifting in a year or so. He may not even be able to walk. :D
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This fine athlete is a master technician and headed for powerlifting glory.
I feel honoured to be witness to his championship form early in his ascent to the hall of legends.
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:D
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As a taller guy, I feel for this idiot. Until I got some real coaching, including a shitload of mobility work, I probably looked like this retard.
My lower back has sympathy pains.
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Does he utter " one ninety " as e walks towards the camera.
Never seen anyone help someone during the deadlift before :D
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Oh my god.....
This is like watching a video of a kid drink bleach under the sink.
Why is no one stopping him? :(
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::)
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Why is no one stopping him? :(
Kids that age listen to nobody. Wouldn't matter.
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Right off the bat when he needed help using straps,I knew he was fucked.
Does anyone these days know how to use straps correctly? :(
Brutal lack of leg drive,all rounded back,heaving and hitching......reminded me of the great and legendary Vince Anello!
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Fucking idiot! :(
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How hard is it to watch a damn 2 minute deadlift form video so you can at least get the gist of what you should be doing?
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Do any of you guys violently jerk the bar off the ground when you deadlift? I see this all the time and even in competitions. Seems like a great way to cause an injury. I always just apply gradual pressure until the bar comes off the floor. That grab the bar and jerk is just insanity.
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Do any of you guys violently jerk the bar off the ground when you deadlift? I see this all the time and even in competitions. Seems like a great way to cause an injury. I always just apply gradual pressure until the bar comes off the floor. That grab the bar and jerk is just insanity.
Not like that. There's a difference between exploding from a tensed position and jerking from a loose set up.
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Do any of you guys violently jerk the bar off the ground when you deadlift? I see this all the time and even in competitions. Seems like a great way to cause an injury. I always just apply gradual pressure until the bar comes off the floor. That grab the bar and jerk is just insanity.
The words of Robert Kennedy from MuscleMag always stuck with me, "Lift as heavy as you can with good form"
Now of course the "lifting heavy" part hasn't always been a part of my routine but the good form has to be consistent otherwise you are just asking for trouble.
To the vast majority of us who post here that seems like Weightlifting 101 principles but even when I go to the gym it's a concept that a ton of people there can't seem to grasp.
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Do any of you guys violently jerk the bar off the ground when you deadlift? I see this all the time and even in competitions. Seems like a great way to cause an injury. I always just apply gradual pressure until the bar comes off the floor. That grab the bar and jerk is just insanity.
Exploding as fast as possible with the weight is ideal ofc. But it does not mean jerking.
Your entire body should be tense before you even touch the bar. Triceps should be tensed to ensure your arms are straight, breath sucked into your abdomen to brace the lumbar spine, back arched, legs slightly bent with hamstrings and glutes tensed.
Once you grip the bar, grip it like your want to tear it into two pieces, pull the slack out of the bar. Look slightly upwards as this will assist with improving the speed of the isotonic muscular contraction.
The faster the lift the better, as it decreases the time under which the lumbar spine is under pressure. Even with an arched back there is pressure on the lumber spine.
It's taken me a while but after perfecting this technique I can deadlift heavy multiple times a week.
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Right off the bat when he needed help using straps,I knew he was fucked.
Does anyone these days know how to use straps correctly? :(
Brutal lack of leg drive,all rounded back,heaving and hitching......reminded me of the great and legendary Vince Anello!
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Fucking idiot! :(
After 20 years of using straps , I decided to invest on a $7 block of chauk and damn was it a world of difference.
I could probably get 1 rep with 405 without staps, with chaulk i got an easy 10 without my grip even slightly giving out
I will probably never deadlift with straps again
I will prop keep straps for other back movements just so I dont make a mess all over the gym with powder
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My back hurts just by watching that. :-\
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As a taller guy, I feel for this idiot. Until I got some real coaching, including a shitload of mobility work, I probably looked like this retard.
My lower back has sympathy pains.
Agreed, but I refuse to round my back... although I feel like a contortionist getting set up for a deadlift. Im not only tall (just a cunthair under 6'3"), but I have a long torso which makes things 100x worse.
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it wouldn't be called deadlift if there wasn't a possibility of death, now would it?
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After 20 years of using straps , I decided to invest on a $7 block of chauk and damn was it a world of difference.
I could probably get 1 rep with 405 without staps, with chaulk i got an easy 10 without my grip even slightly giving out
I will probably never deadlift with straps again
I will prop keep straps for other back movements just so I dont make a mess all over the gym with powder
Straps.... ::)
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Straps.... ::)
lmao at chaos's 10 year anti strap campaign, :D
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lmao at chaos's 10 year anti strap campaign, :D
I know.
He may be the only man in history with grip strength/endurance superior to that of his back.
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I know.
He may be the only man in history with grip strength/endurance superior to that of his back.
ya can't really argue with him though, as much as I want too, cause he has one hell of a deadlift :-\
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Wraps & gloves are useless, man up and use chalk.
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Ha.....this guy definitely posts here
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This is beyond ego trainning, this is dumb trainning.
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I know.
He may be the only man in history with grip strength/endurance superior to that of his back.
I do have gnarly endurance with my grip, its kind of what happens when you don't use straps to hold the weight. At first the #'s go down but they quickly come back up.
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150kg not 180kg
that's about 330lbs nowhere near 400lbs, and nearly broke his back
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I do have gnarly endurance with my grip, its kind of what happens when you don't use straps to hold the weight. At first the #'s go down but they quickly come back up.
Mind = blown
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Mind = blown
Better than colon = blown. :P
I do use chalk though.
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Better than colon = blown. :P
I do use chalk though.
Ironically enough ive dropped straps as well... different reasons though. Mine is because I never do direct forearm work and I felt that I was neglecting them, and I dont want to be one of those guys with massive upper arms and twigs for forearms.
Dripping straps gives me gnarly forearm pumps on back day.
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Ironically enough ive dropped straps as well... different reasons though. Mine is because I never do direct forearm work and I felt that I was neglecting them, and I dont want to be one of those guys with massive upper arms and twigs for forearms.
That's why I dropped straps. And then I started doing direct arm work. Now I have stupid popeye forearms :-\
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Wraps & gloves are useless, man up and use chalk.
Lmao, If you know what goes on in the pros you wouldn't be saying this.
For those that know what I am talking about let's enlighten the ''no straps'' crowd. lol, You try taking 100mg of anadrol, 100mg of TNE, 100mg of tren pre workout plus slin and gh and see what massive pump your forearm gets inside of 3 sets, you would NOT be able to grip even a 50lb dumbbell :D
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Lmao, If you know what goes on in the pros you wouldn't be saying this.
For those that know what I am talking about let's enlighten the ''no straps'' crowd. lol, You try taking 100mg of anadrol, 100mg of TNE, 100mg of tren pre workout plus slin and gh and see what massive pump your forearm gets inside of 3 sets, you would NOT be able to grip even a 50lb dumbbell :D
hey, you could risk tearing a bicep with an over-under grip on a heavy deadlift just to cement your Manly Online cred. Or you could use straps.
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hey, you could risk tearing a bicep with an over-under grip on a heavy deadlift just to cement your Manly Online cred. Or you could use straps.
how will straps stop you tearing a bicep?
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Lmao, If you know what goes on in the pros you wouldn't be saying this.
For those that know what I am talking about let's enlighten the ''no straps'' crowd. lol, You try taking 100mg of anadrol, 100mg of TNE, 100mg of tren pre workout plus slin and gh and see what massive pump your forearm gets inside of 3 sets, you would NOT be able to grip even a 50lb dumbbell :D
I was going to say that there could be a difference. ..I am natural so I wasn't sure if you drug addicts with muscles had different experiences.
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how will straps stop you tearing a bicep?
straps shift the burden from the forearm and upper arm, relieving all pressure on your elbow joint making the arm from wrist to shoulder one unit
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I was going to say that there could be a difference. ..I am natural so I wasn't sure if you drug addicts with muscles had different experiences.
ya basically the enormous pumps and uncontrollable blood flow from the compounds. Deadlifts are not so bad but bent over rows, forget it :(
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straps shift the burden from the forearm and upper arm, relieving all pressure on your elbow joint making the arm from wrist to shoulder one unit
It doesn't make sense what you are saying, straps allow you to lift more and stretch the bicep tendon far more than if your grip gave out.
Taken to its extreme if you tied the bar to your wrist and took your grip totally out of the equation and attempted to lift the bar then all the stress would be placed on the tendons rather than the muscle.
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It doesn't make sense what you are saying, straps allow you to lift more and stretch the bicep tendon far more than if your grip gave out.
Taken to its extreme if you tied the bar to your wrist and took your grip totally out of the equation and attempted to lift the bar then all the stress would be placed on the tendons rather than the muscle.
The bicep suppinates the hand. Holding the bar with a mixed grip puts more strain on one bicep than the other. I'd assume this is what he meant
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I was going to say that there could be a difference. ..I am natural so I wasn't sure if you drug addicts with muscles had different experiences.
I thought you said before that you used gear?
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It doesn't make sense what you are saying, straps allow you to lift more and stretch the bicep tendon far more than if your grip gave out.
Taken to its extreme if you tied the bar to your wrist and took your grip totally out of the equation and attempted to lift the bar then all the stress would be placed on the tendons rather than the muscle.
your IQ just plummeted to 20, my fucken lord, wow, don't mean to be rude but straight up ARE YOU FUCKEN DUMB?? :D
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It is people like this that stopped me going to public gyms. It is people like this that cause me to avoid talking about my weight training with other uninformed people.
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The bicep suppinates the hand. Holding the bar with a mixed grip puts more strain on one bicep than the other. I'd assume this is what he meant
It is what I meant, why would you want to strap a wrist to a bar with the tendon fully extended and reduce assistance from the forearm muscle?
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The bicep suppinates the hand. Holding the bar with a mixed grip puts more strain on one bicep than the other. I'd assume this is what he meant
Yes this....using straps eliminates the need to use a mixed-grip, thus preventing the biceps on the supinated arm from being exposed to a dangerous load
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It is what I meant, why would you want to strap a wrist to a bar with the tendon fully extended and reduce assistance from the forearm muscle?
what he is saying is you do not have to have one arm underhand grip, which ends up up being a risky movement for the bicep.
and what I am saying is that you do not have to squeeze the bar as hard when you are strapped and your back gets the burden more then your hands and arms, from wrist to delt, minimum pressure with straps.
I notice this when I forget my straps at home after a back workout, I lift 30% less on biceps and 30% less sets cause they are already worked when I forget the straps.
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I usually use a hook grip when doing deadlifts. Takes some getting used to but once you're comfortable with it, you'll never go back to overhand/underhand.
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what he is saying is you do not have to have one arm underhand grip, which ends up up being a risky movement for the bicep.
and what I am saying is that you do not have to squeeze the bar as hard when you are strapped and your back gets the burden more then your hands and arms, from wrist to delt, minimum pressure with straps.
I notice this when I forget my straps at home after a back workout, I lift 30% less on biceps and 30% less sets cause they are already worked when I forget the straps.
With you now.
I use straps myself but TBH I dont really notice that much of a difference.
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With you now.
I use straps myself but TBH I dont really notice that much of a difference.
you know I was just fucking with you a few post back right? ;)
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you know I was just fucking with you a few post back right? ;)
No. Im traumatised. ;D
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Use hook grip, problem solved. It will hurt at first but if you wrap your wrists and use chalk it will be bearable if you are not a sissy. I still prefer underhand-overhand.
I agree that anyone except from powerlifters should use straps. Even some russian powerlifters use straps and they switch to alternate grip before competition. Example:
Every olympic lifter I know uses straps.
And if you are worried about biceps tear, don't forget about stretching. Alternate grip stretches your biceps with huge load. If you are adapted to that and keep using this kind of grip with progressive loads you are gonna be fine. If you don't forget about mobility and stretching you are gonna be fine. If you use straps, forget about stretching, build huge, massive biceps and out of a sudden switch to alternate grip tear is inevitable.
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No. Im traumatised. ;D
;D
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BTW what is the word in English for a muscle that is not stretched enough? Adjective. It's "przykurczony" in Polish, direct translation would be something like "shrinked" but it doesn't sound right.
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BTW what is the word in English for a muscle that is not stretched enough? Adjective. It's "przykurczony" in Polish, direct translation would be something like "shrinked" but it doesn't sound right.
I believe the medical term is "hypertonic" but nobody says that. If you said "my hamstrings/biceps/pecs are tight", everyone would know what you meant
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I've seen a biceps tear from mixed grip deadlifting, not a pretty sight.
I do Romanian deads for 15-20 reps nowadays, so I use straps. No way is my grip holding out for that long a time
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I believe the medical term is "hypertonic" but nobody says that. If you said "my hamstrings/biceps/pecs are tight", everyone would know what you meant
Tight is not very specific, but you are right, you can guess from the context what I mean. Thanks.
So anyway, the problem with mixed grips is tight biceps, fix that and you are gonnna be fine, most likely. There are no guarantees though. Deadlift is a great exercise that develops muscles in your core and back that you never even heard of but it comes with a certan price. There are many more things that can break more likely than biceps. I have seen some dreadful deadlift injuries during powerlifting competitions but I have never seen biceps tear except from youtube. But then again maybe my experience is too limited, chaos should say something about that cause he prolly has seen more.