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Title: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 24, 2014, 09:45:31 AM
 :D

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Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: the trainer on June 24, 2014, 10:15:19 AM
MPF My Pussy Fake training system only wussies need apply.
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 24, 2014, 10:22:25 AM
MPF My Pussy Fake training system only wussies need apply.


You'd last about about a minute..hahahaha.

Go play on your "smith machine"..lol
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: Mr Nobody on June 24, 2014, 10:34:40 AM
He needs to go try to beat chaos, I doubt he can.
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 24, 2014, 10:41:34 AM
He needs to go try to beat chaos, I doubt he can.

Of course not.
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: Necrosis on June 24, 2014, 10:48:44 AM
Of course not.

So it's more like 200 lbs? with the tire pivoting it's nothing like picking up 450lbs.
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: Nails on June 24, 2014, 10:49:24 AM
he can flip 450lb tires with one arm

but probably cant bench 135
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 24, 2014, 10:52:31 AM
he can flip 450lb tires with one arm

but probably cant bench 135

285 @ 175
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: Nails on June 24, 2014, 10:54:30 AM
whats the point of saying its a 450lbs tire if you never actually pick up the entire weight of the tire  ??? ???


is no different then Phil Heaths claim of incline pressing 6 plates for 10 reps, means shit since its on a hammer machine
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: Necrosis on June 24, 2014, 10:56:02 AM
It also is terrible biomechanically, that type of strain on one side with an akward object and weight isn't good. Bars were made to lift things safely.
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 24, 2014, 11:02:52 AM
It also is terrible biomechanically, that type of strain on one side with an akward object and weight isn't good. Bars were made to lift things safely.

lol
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: The Onion on June 24, 2014, 11:03:47 AM
Would have been more interesting seeing him roll that tire.  :-\
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: Necrosis on June 24, 2014, 11:22:16 AM
lol

you think squatting down way deeper then any squat(lifting the weight directly off the floor)  only using one arm is safe?he's fucking using his hip to prop it up.

none of this shit makes any fucking sense, it's crossfit all over. what does this offer a deadlift doesn't? he is literally kicking the weight at a certain point. there is almost no resistence past 45 degrees also, as the weight of the tire acts as a counterbalance.

Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: SuperTed on June 24, 2014, 11:28:17 AM
Is this kid planning on becoming a strongman?

If not, then what's the point of making him do this? ???

 :D
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 24, 2014, 11:28:48 AM
you think squatting down way deeper then any squat(lifting the weight directly off the floor)  only using one arm is safe?he's fucking using his hip to prop it up.

none of this shit makes any fucking sense, it's crossfit all over. what does this offer a deadlift doesn't? he is literally kicking the weight at a certain point. there is almost no resistence past 45 degrees also, as the weight of the tire acts as a counterbalance.



Yes, because no one was flipping tires, doing o-lifts and doing plyos before CrossFit. lol
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: Nails on June 24, 2014, 11:32:18 AM
Old Fatty Flipping 600lbs







Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: Nails on June 24, 2014, 11:33:31 AM
61yr old broad, flips 400lbs



Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: woodman on June 24, 2014, 11:34:29 AM
Good way to tear a bicep..keep coaching that kid that way,,his orthopedic surgeon will be waiting...
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 24, 2014, 11:38:03 AM
Good way to tear a bicep..keep coaching that kid that way,,his orthopedic surgeon will be waiting...

Only if he were taught wrong.
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: chaos on June 24, 2014, 12:19:20 PM
I'd flip tires with that kid. 8)
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: Sophus on June 24, 2014, 12:24:40 PM
Good way to tear a bicep..keep coaching that kid that way,,his orthopedic surgeon will be waiting...

Thats exactly what I thought
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: Kwon_2 on June 24, 2014, 12:25:48 PM
Thats exactly what I thought

Dammmmmmmit.....

You are a fucken beast of the best order arent you?

I'll be yer huckleberry

EDIT: FUCKEN HELL DOES THE THOUGHT OF YOUR SEXY ASS MOVIN AND GRINDING TO FUCKEN GLEN MAKE ME.....NEEEEYAAAAAAAAAAA AAAH!!!!!!!!!! Lol fuck!
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: kreator on June 24, 2014, 12:35:23 PM
coach probably doesn't understand the basics of physics
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: Simple Simon on June 24, 2014, 12:51:28 PM
coach probably doesn't understand the basics of physics
Box squats being a prime example of his sillyness

Get a bar on your back and prepare to squat, you go down into a squat position with every fibre of your musculature supporting your skeletal structure then what do you do, you sit on a box totally relaxing your quads glutes and lower back, the weight still on the shoulders then bears down on the spine, the weakest area (L4 & L5 joints) take all the strain.

Ideal way to blow out a disc.
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: chaos on June 24, 2014, 12:56:17 PM
Box squats being a prime example of his sillyness

Get a bar on your back and prepare to squat, you go down into a squat position with every fibre of your musculature supporting your skeletal structure then what do you do, you sit on a box totally relaxing your quads glutes and lower back, the weight still on the shoulders then bears down on the spine, the weakest area (L4 & L5 joints) take all the strain.

Ideal way to blow out a disc.
Have you ever box squatted?
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: Nails on June 24, 2014, 12:58:45 PM
(http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/OX9IqMi4xII/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: Nails on June 24, 2014, 01:01:16 PM
400lb Tire Flips




(http://www.crossfit.com/mt-archive2/Tire-flip.jpg)
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 24, 2014, 01:01:42 PM
Have you ever box squatted?

He didn't even know what it was until I posted it.
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: Simple Simon on June 24, 2014, 01:04:42 PM
Have you ever box squatted?
I value my spine.
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: the trainer on June 24, 2014, 01:04:55 PM
So the coach copied crossfit and now he calls it MPF systems, guess he is too cheap to pay to be certified.
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: Grape Ape on June 24, 2014, 01:12:00 PM
Box squats being a prime example of his sillyness

Get a bar on your back and prepare to squat, you go down into a squat position with every fibre of your musculature supporting your skeletal structure then what do you do, you sit on a box totally relaxing your quads glutes and lower back, the weight still on the shoulders then bears down on the spine, the weakest area (L4 & L5 joints) take all the strain.

Ideal way to blow out a disc.

I like your posts a lot but disagree with this completely.  I've box squatted almost exclusively for over a year now and find it much, much safer.
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: Roger Bacon on June 24, 2014, 01:13:03 PM
:D

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=814692918550021&set=vb.118339598185360&type=2&theater

Could you get Jason Genova in shape?

Why don't you fly him out for publicity and get him a six pack?
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: Roger Bacon on June 24, 2014, 01:16:11 PM
Coach runs a multimillion dollar nationally renowned training center, yet the experts on getbig still know more than him about training!  :D
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: Simple Simon on June 24, 2014, 01:17:03 PM
I like your posts a lot but disagree with this completely.  I've box squatted almost exclusively for over a year now and find it much, much safer.
We are all different mate, my low back wouldnt stand it.
I avoid squats totally.
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 24, 2014, 01:20:41 PM
We are all different mate, my low back wouldnt stand it.
I avoid squats totally.

Should have said that in the beginning instead of making blanket statements.
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: Necrosis on June 24, 2014, 02:21:00 PM
Only if he were taught wrong.

what is proper form on the one handed giant tire flip? is the leg kick at the end were he bumps it with his hip kinda and turns his body correct?
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: flinstones1 on June 24, 2014, 06:34:16 PM
coach probably doesn't understand the basics of physics


The guy comes across cocky as hell when he gets results with high school athletes. No shit anything a high school athlete will do will work.  ::)

take a  d1 college  football player who's been running a 4.6 for four years straight and get him to run  a 4.5, then I'll be impressed.
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 24, 2014, 06:55:35 PM

The guy comes across cocky as hell when he gets results with high school athletes. No shit anything a high school athlete will do will work.  ::)

take a  d1 college  football player who's been running a 4.6 for four years straight and get him to run  a 4.5, then I'll be impressed.

We've done that....and did it within an hour. But I'll do you one better. Take a high school freshman, see him develop throughout his/her high school years, watch them start a D1 school then get picked up by a pro team. Getting a talent already in college, get them a little stronger, tweak their running mechanics to help increase their athleticism is the easy part.  Incidentally, coaches look more at a 10/20 yard split than a 40 time in most cases.
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: phil mcgroin on June 24, 2014, 07:09:33 PM
Its like anthing ,with enough practice you become very efficient at it.Ever see woman on stair machines they get so good at it they barely use any calories.They do it for hours and wonder why they are still fat.
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: flinstones1 on June 24, 2014, 07:29:54 PM
We've done that....and did it within an hour. But I'll do you one better. Take a high school freshman, see him develop throughout his/her high school years, watch them start a D1 school then get picked up by a pro team. Getting a talent already in college, get them a little stronger, tweak their running mechanics to help increase their athleticism is the easy part.  Incidentally, coaches look more at a 10/20 yard split than a 40 time in most cases.

care to name the professional athletes you groomed from the time they were 14 years old?
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: flinstones1 on June 24, 2014, 07:32:19 PM
Its like anthing ,with enough practice you become very efficient at it.Ever see woman on stair machines they get so good at it they barely use any calories.They do it for hours and wonder why they are still fat.


yep. we all remember when we started training for the most part anything we did would make our bench press go up. Flyes, pushdowns, etc. Once I got past the 350 mark, I found only a specific few exercises did anything for my bench
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: Mawse on June 24, 2014, 08:10:00 PM
I like your posts a lot but disagree with this completely.  I've box squatted almost exclusively for over a year now and find it much, much safer.

It's the long term issues that get you, I did it for a decade and put up some healthy numbers. Nowadays, hell no. Just going up to 455 was enough to remind me why I quit them.

High bar Oly squats > all
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 24, 2014, 08:10:25 PM
Its like anthing ,with enough practice you become very efficient at it.Ever see woman on stair machines they get so good at it they barely use any calories.They do it for hours and wonder why they are still fat.

I wrote an article relating to just that...


http://mpftrainingsystems.com/the-need-for-off-season-speed-its-not-what-you-think/
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: flinstones1 on June 24, 2014, 08:32:43 PM
Coach hopefully you know that Im just messing with you, I know your a bright guy its just that I don't agree with the westside system for training athletes. I don't have the credentials, but I have talked to guys who do. And the fact is that an athlete at an advanced level can not make gains training for multiple tasks at once or he will inevitably overtrain. The human organism simply can not adapt to the workload placed upon it at that level...   speed, strength, GPP, etc  must be developed in different phases of the training year...making the  block periodization method optimal.  (which the westside system disagrees with)

I know most of your kids are at the high school or college level and many times lack the strength and muscle mass..so yeah...using the conjugate/westside system might be optimal in this case.
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 24, 2014, 08:48:19 PM
Coach hopefully you know that Im just messing with you, I know your a bright guy its just that I don't agree with the westside system for training athletes. I don't have the credentials, but I have talked to guys who do. And the fact is that an athlete at an advanced level can not make gains training for multiple tasks at once or he will inevitably overtrain. The human organism simply can not adapt to the workload placed upon it at that level...   speed, strength, GPP, etc  must be developed in different phases of the training year...making the  block periodization method optimal.  (which the westside system disagrees with)

I know most of your kids are at the high school or college level and many times lack the strength and muscle mass..so yeah...using the conjugate/westside system might be optimal in this case.

What do you mean by multiple tasks?
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: falco on June 25, 2014, 02:54:23 AM
Poor handicaped boy.
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: Kwon_2 on June 25, 2014, 02:59:59 AM
:D

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=814692918550021&set=vb.118339598185360&type=2&theater


Sure, he's strong, but he doesn't beat this
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=256487997881569
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: falco on June 25, 2014, 03:55:00 AM
(http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/OX9IqMi4xII/maxresdefault.jpg)

Ain't a full squat till your balls touch the floor
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: Simple Simon on June 25, 2014, 03:57:04 AM
We've done that....and did it within an hour. But I'll do you one better. Take a high school freshman, see him develop throughout his/her high school years, watch them start a D1 school then get picked up by a pro team. Getting a talent already in college, get them a little stronger, tweak their running mechanics to help increase their athleticism is the easy part.  Incidentally, coaches look more at a 10/20 yard split than a 40 time in most cases.
Did you get him to run downhill?
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: falco on June 25, 2014, 03:59:47 AM

Sure, he's strong, but he doesn't beat this
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=256487997881569

(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSdN_PY4X2vf3Fz-DSAmsq5IDW8zGqN4Ln-ah6O2wq7vp9OvWDR5g)
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: Darren Avey on June 25, 2014, 06:37:41 AM
(http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/OX9IqMi4xII/maxresdefault.jpg)

I saw some guy doing squats literally like that this morning. He was doing 165kg for sets of about 8 I think . Awesome power.
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: BigCyp on June 25, 2014, 06:42:06 AM
That's nothing, my 16 month old daughter can flip an entire £4.50 Tikka Massala onto a Laura Ashley rug with 2 fingers
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: Grape Ape on June 25, 2014, 06:56:48 AM
It's the long term issues that get you, I did it for a decade and put up some healthy numbers. Nowadays, hell no. Just going up to 455 was enough to remind me why I quit them.

High bar Oly squats > all


I have a long torso, so the high bar Oly is very hard for me....plus it would force me to work on flexibility  ;D
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: OTHstrong on June 25, 2014, 07:08:54 AM
not to sound like a dick but nothing impressive here at all, I know woman who can do this, no offence
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 25, 2014, 08:26:36 AM
Did you get him to run downhill?

Most of the time it's a matter of correcting running mechanics, zero step and first step. Making it more efficient. Nothing ground breaking.
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: Simple Simon on June 25, 2014, 08:40:00 AM
Most of the time it's a matter of correcting running mechanics, zero step and first step. Making it more efficient. Nothing ground breaking.
Wasnt Shizzo then?
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: MONSTER_TRICEPS on June 25, 2014, 09:08:34 AM
Coach runs a multimillion dollar nationally renowned training center, yet the experts on getbig still know more than him about training!  :D

By that logic, Joe Weider must be the best trainer, as he runs a multi multi million dollar company.

Needless to say your logic is flawed.
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: jamesjenkinsfitness on June 25, 2014, 02:54:50 PM
not to sound like a dick but nothing impressive here at all, I know woman who can do this, no offence
Pretty much true...
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 25, 2014, 04:07:19 PM
not to sound like a dick but nothing impressive here at all, I know woman who can do this, no offence

No offended. I'm sure we all do.
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 25, 2014, 04:08:09 PM
Pretty much true...

@mpftrainingsystems
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: Mr Nobody on June 25, 2014, 04:14:13 PM
Does anyone like women sex on this board?
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: jamesjenkinsfitness on June 25, 2014, 04:17:32 PM
@mpftrainingsystems

Just gave a brief look at your site. Seems pretty good. When I agree that the tire flip is average, it's not an insult to the person. It's just from my standpoint,  of powerlifting, and training with some pretty renowned teams. This is actually pretty common amoung kids that age. That is by no means a knock against him at all. However it is pretty much the usual at gyms I frequent. And at competitions also.
Title: Re: 16 year old 450lb single arm tire flip
Post by: DPump on June 25, 2014, 05:01:18 PM
Do not understand the shittalking to coach on this thread....m.  Guy practices what he preaches and has had a stable of top tier athletes thru his tutelage....    Do ur thing big man!!