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Title: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: AmonRa on June 25, 2014, 11:12:18 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=91543.0;attach=99251)

Better than this Bostin Loyd addict.

(http://www.bigdaddyb.com/images/1525411_769613366398219_756539750_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: visualizeperfection on June 25, 2014, 11:16:58 PM
bostin is looking pretty fucking big though
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: NotMrAverage on June 25, 2014, 11:36:52 PM
frank was a good bb...very hard and lean...but like a rwink mr o...bostins arms look bigger than his head in this shot...i wonder if he already have ruined himself after shooting synthol in his tris?
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: Powerlift66 on June 26, 2014, 03:52:02 AM
Please don't use these 2 in the same sentence again, that is all...
Zane looks good and is healthy in his 70's, this jerk-off will be dead soon..
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: Purge_WTF on June 26, 2014, 04:05:23 AM
Please don't use these 2 in the same sentence again, that is all...
Zane looks good and is healthy in his 70's, this jerk-off will be dead soon..

Don't pull punches.  :o
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: gracie bjj on June 26, 2014, 04:23:49 AM
in a contest zane woulda smoked this dude,period, zane was much biggerthan people give him credit for
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: wes on June 26, 2014, 04:31:30 AM
Frank Zane

1964

North American Championships - IFBB, Medium, 3rd

1965

Mr East Coast - IFBB, Tall, 3rd
Junior Mr America - IFBB, Medium, 1st
Universe - IFBB, Medium, 1st

1966

Mr America - IFBB, Medium, 1st
Mr East Coast - IFBB, Overall Winner
Mr East Coast - IFBB, Tall, 1st
Mr Eastern America - IFBB, Medium, 2nd
North American Championships - IFBB, Medium, 1st
North American Championships - IFBB, Overall Winner

1967

Mr America - IFBB, Medium, 1st
Universe - IFBB, Tall, 3rd

1968

Mr America - IFBB, Medium, 1st
Mr America - IFBB, Overall Winner
Mr International - IFBB, Medium, 1st
Mr International - IFBB, Overall Winner
Universe - IFBB, Winner

1969

Mr World - IFBB, Medium, 1st
Mr World - IFBB, Overall Winner

1970

Mr Universe - NABBA, Medium, 1st
Mr Universe - NABBA, Overall Winner

1971

Universe - Pro - NABBA, Short, 1st

1972

Olympia - IFBB, 4th
Universe - Pro - NABBA, Overall Winner
Universe - Pro - NABBA, Short, 1st

1974

Olympia - IFBB, LightWeight, 2nd

1975

Olympia - IFBB, LightWeight, 4th

1976

Olympia - IFBB, LightWeight, 2nd

1977

Olympia - IFBB, Winner
Olympia - IFBB, LightWeight, 1st

1978

Olympia - IFBB, LightWeight, 1st
Olympia - IFBB, Winner

1979

Olympia - IFBB, LightWeight, 1st
Olympia - IFBB, Overall Winner

1980

Olympia - IFBB, 3rd

1982

Olympia - IFBB, 2nd

1983

Olympia - IFBB, 4th


Bostin Loyd

Bostin Loyd

2010

California Championships - NPC, Teen, 4th
Contra Costa (CA) Championships - NPC, Teen HeavyWeight, 1st
Muscle Contest (So Cal) - NPC, Teen, 2nd

2011

California Championships - NPC, Teen, 1st

2012

Muscle Contest (So Cal) - NPC, Light-HeavyWeight, 1st
Muscle Contest (So Cal) - NPC, Teen, 1st

2013

Contra Costa (CA) Championships - NPC, HeavyWeight, 1st
Contra Costa (CA) Championships - NPC, Overall Winner


THREAD OVER
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: MORTALCOIL on June 26, 2014, 04:36:40 AM
Another trollin' thread.
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: Vince B on June 26, 2014, 04:45:57 AM
Frank had a look and won many titles in the good old days. A pity he went out like he did after winning three in a row.
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: gracie bjj on June 26, 2014, 04:48:05 AM
classic build right there
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: Powerlift66 on June 26, 2014, 04:49:01 AM
Don't pull punches.  :o

Yeah, I know, sorry Purge  :P
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: MORTALCOIL on June 26, 2014, 05:01:04 AM
Frank had a look and won many titles in the good old days. A pity he went out like he did after winning three in a row.

You should really STFU, Basile. You're not worthy of choking on one of Frank's trunk.
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: D.O.A. on June 26, 2014, 05:05:48 AM
Zane looked not bigger but better then this hack too
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: Donny on June 26, 2014, 05:19:55 AM
classic build right there
Great shape and a good poser too.
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: Donny on June 26, 2014, 05:24:06 AM
turned even a simple pose into an expressive masterpiece
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: gracie bjj on June 26, 2014, 05:31:09 AM
guys in the 70,s relied more on hard work n used steroids as an aid, they enjoyed the training n it was like a big family with robby,zane,waller,bill grant,arnold,denny gable ect hanging out at eachothers cribs n going to clubs together n eating together. these days all these top guys think about is the money n will slice another competetors throat to place higher, theres no more loyalty or freindship. i used to train with bill grant(mr world) n he used to tell me stories from the old golds gym days n it was awesome hearing these stories,bill was training with arnold n all those guys back then,bodybuilding took a turn for the worst after that era imo.
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: Donny on June 26, 2014, 05:46:03 AM
guys in the 70,s relied more on hard work n used steroids as an aid, they enjoyed the training n it was like a big family with robby,zane,waller,bill grant,arnold,denny gable ect hanging out at eachothers cribs n going to clubs together n eating together. these days all these top guys think about is the money n will slice another competetors throat to place higher, theres no more loyalty or freindship. i used to train with bill grant(mr world) n he used to tell me stories from the old golds gym days n it was awesome hearing these stories,bill was training with arnold n all those guys back then,bodybuilding took a turn for the worst after that era imo.
bill grant i like too...funny guy.
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: Donny on June 26, 2014, 05:49:43 AM
 :)
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: gracie bjj on June 26, 2014, 06:03:26 AM
thats cool donny, bill is a funny dude n hes got some great stories from the olds golds gym. i was training with bill when he was getting ready for the 94 masters olympia, or was it 95? anyway we would train then go to diner n have egg whites n hed tell me all these crazy arnold stories n stories about them partying n all that good stuff. it was a great time for me, he showed me all the routines he did in cali with arnold n all those guys
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: Pet shop boys on June 26, 2014, 06:48:51 AM
Damn his arms look 22" and lean there ....also no evidence of synthol

Ms.Palumbo must be in heaven.

(http://www.bigdaddyb.com/images/1525411_769613366398219_756539750_n.jpg)


WooSSSHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 26, 2014, 01:19:58 PM
in a contest zane woulda smoked this dude,period, zane was much biggerthan people give him credit for

QFT, if he stood next to Zane in his prime there would be no contest.
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: denarii on June 26, 2014, 01:22:25 PM
frank zane epitomized the greco italian classical look like no other. no homo.
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: Mr Anabolic on June 26, 2014, 01:26:59 PM
He owes it all to those little blue CIBA D-bol pills... same goes for ALL of the guys during that period.
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: R.A.M. on June 26, 2014, 01:27:21 PM
Zane wins.  ;D
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: ENZO on June 26, 2014, 01:36:49 PM
turned even a simple pose into an expressive masterpiece


Nice shot this is what it's really about
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: nextgen on June 26, 2014, 02:30:16 PM
(https://fbcdn-photos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/75686_10151167685684710_693677478_n.jpg?dl=1)

zane at 70 years old.. game over kid
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: Teutonic Knight on June 26, 2014, 03:46:14 PM
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Anti Ronnie topic  >:( (reported to 1MR  ;D)
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: Teutonic Knight on June 26, 2014, 03:48:31 PM
Frank had a look and won many titles in the good old days. A pity he went out like he did after winning three in a row.

& very recently he told U to piss off  ;D
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: Danimal77 on June 26, 2014, 08:40:33 PM
turned even a simple pose into an expressive masterpiece


And the dude was in his 40's in that pic.
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: Skeletor on June 26, 2014, 08:45:56 PM
(https://fbcdn-photos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/75686_10151167685684710_693677478_n.jpg?dl=1)

zane at 70 years old.. game over kid

That's a great physique at any age, let alone 70.
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: The Scott on June 26, 2014, 08:59:59 PM
(http://www.musclemag.com/gallery/frank-zane/09.jpg)

All class.  Pure style and intelligence.  Women love this type of physique and who can blame them.  Frank looks like a man should look.  Reeves had it, Arnold had it, Park too.  Draper had it as well and so many more from that time and before.  They looked like men, not caricatures of men.  Even the largest of these men had aesthetics. 

Coleman?  Pathetic pot bellied pig of peace. 

imagine Kai trying to imitate this shot with the pumpkin....Uck!  Gross thought.  Never mind.

Zane is in the top ten of the best of all time. 
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: arce1988 on June 26, 2014, 10:30:15 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=91543.0;attach=99251)

 Awesome
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: Donny on June 26, 2014, 11:26:58 PM
Nice shot this is what it's really about
100% displayed his olympian physique very well..
&index=3
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: gracie bjj on June 27, 2014, 09:30:09 AM
arnold said zane was just as strong as him even tho arnold had 45 plus pounds on zane :o
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: Thespritz0 on June 27, 2014, 01:50:16 PM
ZANE...
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: galain on June 27, 2014, 01:53:14 PM
(http://www.musclemag.com/gallery/frank-zane/09.jpg)


imagine Kai trying to imitate this shot with the pumpkin....Uck!  Gross thought.  Never mind.



Kai would have a hole in it and be sitting in front of a web cam.....
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: millineum man on June 27, 2014, 01:54:41 PM
ZANE...
WOW!
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: Pet shop boys on June 27, 2014, 02:09:58 PM
(https://fbcdn-photos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/75686_10151167685684710_693677478_n.jpg?dl=1)

zane at 70 years old.. game over kid

Photoshop ! and a funny one lol     and he was like 60 when pic was taken ...





WoooSSHHHH be ye ke
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: Skylge on June 27, 2014, 02:36:23 PM
(http://awesome-body.info/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Frank-Zane-th-legend.jpg)
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: Mr Nobody on June 27, 2014, 03:00:02 PM
Looks ok.
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: gracie bjj on June 27, 2014, 03:33:32 PM
(http://awesome-body.info/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Frank-Zane-th-legend.jpg)

thats a great look right there,ripped n tight
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: Danimal77 on June 27, 2014, 07:29:58 PM
(http://www.musclemag.com/gallery/frank-zane/09.jpg)

All class.  Pure style and intelligence.  Women love this type of physique and who can blame them.  Frank looks like a man should look.  Reeves had it, Arnold had it, Park too.  Draper had it as well and so many more from that time and before.  They looked like men, not caricatures of men.  Even the largest of these men had aesthetics.  

Coleman?  Pathetic pot bellied pig of peace.  

imagine Kai trying to imitate this shot with the pumpkin....Uck!  Gross thought.  Never mind.

Zane is in the top ten of the best of all time.  

What amazes me by that pic is that a Mr. Olympia's upper arms didn't even stretch the sleeves in that t-shirt he was wearing. While he looked great overall, his upper arms looked downright tiny in that pic.
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 27, 2014, 08:33:01 PM
Frank Zane beer commercial.
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: Vince B on June 27, 2014, 09:04:27 PM
This is the best FCB of Zane I could find. Not sure if it was shopped or not.
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: Vince B on June 27, 2014, 09:08:39 PM
I used that FDB pose to compose this photo. I tried to send the original to Frank but he returned it saying he didn't accept email from people he didn't know. I got his address from his website.

Naturally, he reads email from people wanting to buy his products!

He was a tool when I met him at my place and nothing has changed.
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: The Onion on June 28, 2014, 01:23:34 AM
I must have missed it but why do you consider him a tool? What did he do?  ???
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: booty on June 28, 2014, 01:27:32 AM
turned even a simple pose into an expressive masterpiece

Beautiful classic Phsyquie! This is bodybuilding how it should be... Not this drug mutated sport it is currently.
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: Donny on June 28, 2014, 01:31:58 AM
Beautiful classic Phsyquie! This is bodybuilding how it should be... Not this drug mutated sport it is currently.
nice small waist  and Comes over as a very intelligent man. As i wrote a while back very impressed with his "zen" approach to Bodybuilding.
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: booty on June 28, 2014, 01:37:04 AM
nice small waist  and Comes over as a very intelligent man. As i wrote a while back very impressed with his "zen" approach to Bodybuilding.
One of the tiniest waists ever and Zane knew how to really show it off in his poses.
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: booty on June 28, 2014, 01:38:11 AM
(http://www.musclemag.com/gallery/frank-zane/09.jpg)

All class.  Pure style and intelligence.  Women love this type of physique and who can blame them.  Frank looks like a man should look.  Reeves had it, Arnold had it, Park too.  Draper had it as well and so many more from that time and before.  They looked like men, not caricatures of men.  Even the largest of these men had aesthetics. 

Coleman?  Pathetic pot bellied pig of peace. 

imagine Kai trying to imitate this shot with the pumpkin....Uck!  Gross thought.  Never mind.

Zane is in the top ten of the best of all time. 
This X 1000 000
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: Vince B on June 28, 2014, 01:38:19 AM
I must have missed it but why do you consider him a tool? What did he do?  ???

Frank isn't slow to promote himself. The guy has an ego.
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: booty on June 28, 2014, 01:45:37 AM
Frank isn't slow to promote himself. The guy has an ego.
And so he should. Zane is one of the best ever and still to this day at age 70 looks better than most!
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: The Onion on June 28, 2014, 01:47:43 AM
Frank isn't slow to promote himself. The guy has an ego.
I see. To be fair, his claims seem fairly valid though.

I can see you two clashing as you too are very opinionated when it comes to bodybuilding and training.

Thanks for your reply.
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: Donny on June 28, 2014, 01:52:54 AM
One of the tiniest waists ever and Zane knew how to really show it off in his poses.
great pose....
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: Donny on June 28, 2014, 01:54:58 AM
Serratus fully evident....Quality...no OUTSTANDING !
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: booty on June 28, 2014, 02:03:27 AM
great pose....

Wow!!!
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: Vince B on June 28, 2014, 02:05:20 AM
Frank isn't the most highly educated champion bodybuilder. He should know this.
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: Donny on June 28, 2014, 02:26:15 AM
Ok at 1.38 you could say he was being a bit vain but on the other Hand very honest. Comes over good to me.
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: booty on June 28, 2014, 02:26:47 AM
Frank isn't the most highly educated champion bodybuilder. He should know this.
he practices what he preaches!
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: Donny on June 28, 2014, 02:29:57 AM
he practices what he preaches!
I agree.. likes to Play Jazz Music too i believe
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: The Scott on June 28, 2014, 07:23:37 AM
Frank isn't slow to promote himself. The guy has an ego.

As do we all, some more "deserving" if you will.  Don't believe me?  Witness your own ego driven desire for "Blue Stars".  It's okay to have an ego Vince and yes, I think you deserve those stars.   You earned the right just as Frank did.  So long as one's ego doesn't mock a person by overpowering their life I see no real harm in displaying it from time to time.
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: The Scott on June 28, 2014, 07:33:34 AM
Frank isn't the most highly educated champion bodybuilder. He should know this.

Perhaps you mistakenly used the contraction "isn't"?  Zane's education is a matter of record and while Wikipedia is not always correct, I suspect they are close enough:

Zane received a B.Sc (Bachelor of Science degree) in Education from Wilkes University in Wilkes Barre, Pennsylvania in 1964. For 13 years, he taught mathematics and chemistry while living in Florida and California. He also taught mathematics in Watchung Hills Regional High School, NJ, circa 1967 for two years. He also later he earned a B.A. (Bachelor of Arts degree) in psychology from Cal State LA in 1977. Finally, he was awarded a Master's degree in Experimental Psychology from Cal State SB, California in 1990.

Years ago when the "Master's Olympia" first came to the dais, Zane was a guest on the television presentation of the event.  When asked why he hadn't entered the competition he replied (and as always, I am paraphrasing), "Why should I?  I'm a three time Mr. Olympia winner and I also possess a master's degree."

In other words (in my mind), the Master's Olympia (and all the other variations on the theme including the Ms. Olympia) are without merit.  That's not "ego", it's the truth.
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: The Scott on June 28, 2014, 10:53:08 AM
I agree.. likes to Play Jazz Music too i believe

Jazz is the best music out there.  At least for me, that is.  ;D
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: Simple Simon on June 28, 2014, 10:54:49 AM
Jazz is the best music out there.  At least for me, that is.  ;D

JAZZ IS A LOAD OF 'MADE UP AS THEY GO ALONG' NONSENSE.

ITS A FUCKING ANNOYING PILE OF NOISE THAT DOESNT GO ANYWHERE.
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: The Scott on June 28, 2014, 10:59:20 AM
JAZZ IS A LOAD OF 'MADE UP AS THEY GO ALONG' NONSENSE.

ITS A FUCKING ANNOYING PILE OF NOISE THAT DOESNT GO ANYWHERE.

Well now...I find much of improvisational jazz to be (nearly  ;D) as bothersome as cRap music, but to hear Nancy Wilson accompanied by Cannonball Adderely or Sinatra and Jobim is for me a musical epiphany of the first order. 
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: visualizeperfection on June 29, 2014, 02:21:12 AM
So essentially Frank Zane put vince in his place then and now.

Im surprised he hasnt made a cuckold of basile.
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: BIG AL MCKECHNIE on June 29, 2014, 02:41:09 AM
I used that FDB pose to compose this photo. I tried to send the original to Frank but he returned it saying he didn't accept email from people he didn't know. I got his address from his website.

Naturally, he reads email from people wanting to buy his products!

He was a tool when I met him at my place and nothing has changed.

I have to say it's a bit strange for a grown man to take a photo shopped pic of another man and place it in a different background and then send it to said man who previously had mocked the former.
No wonder he rejected it. Why would you want to sook up the arse of a man who insulted you decades before?

Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: Powerlift66 on June 29, 2014, 03:43:37 AM
Vince's email may have creeped out Frank.
He answered my email, he never met me before... A good guy...
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: MORTALCOIL on June 29, 2014, 03:56:20 AM
JAZZ IS A LOAD OF 'MADE UP AS THEY GO ALONG' NONSENSE.

ITS A FUCKING ANNOYING PILE OF NOISE THAT DOESNT GO ANYWHERE.

 ::)
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: Vince B on June 29, 2014, 04:18:50 AM
Frank insulted Arnold on national TV after he won the Mr Olympia for the 3rd. Arnold asked Frank if winning for the 3rd time was the biggest thrill for him. He

told Arnold that his biggest thrill was beating him in Miami in 1968 for a Mr Universe title. That insult stirred Arnold to train hard and enter the 1980 Mr Olympia.

Zane came in third behind Arnold and Chris Dickerson. Yes, Frank had an accident before the contest that caused him to lose some size. I guess I wasn't the

only person Frank pissed off. Frank never won the Olympia again. There is a lesson there for muscleheads.
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: gracie bjj on June 29, 2014, 05:54:39 AM
Frank insulted Arnold on national TV after he won the Mr Olympia for the 3rd. Arnold asked Frank if winning for the 3rd time was the biggest thrill for him. He

told Arnold that his biggest thrill was beating him in Miami in 1968 for a Mr Universe title. That insult stirred Arnold to train hard and enter the 1980 Mr Olympia.

Zane came in third behind Arnold and Chris Dickerson. Yes, Frank had an accident before the contest that caused him to lose some size. I guess I wasn't the

only person Frank pissed off. Frank never won the Olympia again. There is a lesson there for muscleheads.
b

yes vince i heard that storie myself about zane saying that to arnold, they say arnold turned red n u could clearly see he was angry bn embarrassed
Title: Re: Frank Zane looked great
Post by: Thespritz0 on June 29, 2014, 07:27:04 AM
Frank insulted Arnold on national TV after he won the Mr Olympia for the 3rd. Arnold asked Frank if winning for the 3rd time was the biggest thrill for him. He

told Arnold that his biggest thrill was beating him in Miami in 1968 for a Mr Universe title. That insult stirred Arnold to train hard and enter the 1980 Mr Olympia.

Zane came in third behind Arnold and Chris Dickerson. Yes, Frank had an accident before the contest that caused him to lose some size. I guess I wasn't the

only person Frank pissed off. Frank never won the Olympia again. There is a lesson there for muscleheads.
^^
100% TRUE, Arnold planned his revenge and when getting into shape for the Conan movie entered the contest to "teach" Zane a lesson...

In reflecting on the 1980 Olympia one has to ask, why did Arnold enter? He knew he couldn't be at his all-time peak, and was risking defeat and a denting of his reputation. Zane feels he has at least part of the answer: "I think one of the reasons is he wanted to get even with me for something I said at the previous year's Olympia. Now, let me tell you, Arnold has helped me a lot, both before 1980 and since. In 1979 he was really helpful to me. He was doing CBS commentary for the '79 Olympia and he really built me up with his on-air comments. As I came offstage with my third Sandow I was feeling really good and maybe a little cocky. As Arnold came forward to interview me, He asked, 'Frank, how does it feel to win Mr. Olympia for the third time?' And, I answered, 'Arnold if feels even better than when I beat you for [the 1968] Mr. Universe.' I know he hated me saying that. It really bugged him and I think to get back at me for that remark was part of his motivation to enter the 1980 Mr. Olympia."