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Title: the lower back, like an organ
Post by: Marty Champions on June 30, 2014, 03:21:56 PM
much like people get chest pain, head pain, theres always an antidote or cause

the back is as complicated as chest or head pain, thus the back should be treated like an organ for ex.

if you have chest pain youre gonna wanna drop the heme-iron because of the calcification going on clogging the arteries, heme-iron completes the (circuit) lets look at the complete circuit as a bad thing, you eat meat you draw from bone marrow(losing calcium) it gets stuck in heart arteries. back to diet , you will clean it up, and clean up your diet well if your scared enough of dieing

same with back pain, youll clean up your diet to the point where youve done everything, it can be cured and "de-inflamed" to where you can function again
Title: Re: the lower back, like an organ
Post by: Marty Champions on June 30, 2014, 03:24:11 PM
if the pain is bad enough, or your scared enough, or you want it bad enough youll figure it out youll figure out what it takes
Title: Re: the lower back, like an organ
Post by: Costanza on June 30, 2014, 03:26:57 PM
Is the tofu still working for you?
Title: Re: the lower back, like an organ
Post by: THE ARS on June 30, 2014, 03:28:35 PM
Nope.

And if you have a bad lower back there is little chance it will be fixed in your lifetime.

Very few advances in spinal surgery.
Title: Re: the lower back, like an organ
Post by: Marty Champions on June 30, 2014, 03:30:13 PM
Is the tofu still working for you?
yes i was gonna talk about you with this in pm at some point since i know you try to help people with bad back
Title: Re: the lower back, like an organ
Post by: Costanza on June 30, 2014, 03:31:24 PM
yes i was gonna talk about you with this in pm at some point since i know you try to help people with bad back

Hit me up anytime neega.
Title: Re: the lower back, like an organ
Post by: Marty Champions on June 30, 2014, 03:34:40 PM
Hit me up anytime neega.
the thing is people wont buy into it unless you make analogies

like you need to eat fiber to take a dump
you need gas in a car to drive
you need carrots for good eyesight
"so give tofu a try for your bad back"
Title: Re: the lower back, like an organ
Post by: Alpine on June 30, 2014, 03:51:09 PM
the thing is people wont buy into it unless you make analogies

like you need to eat fiber to take a dump
you need gas in a car to drive
you need carrots for good eyesight
"so give tofu a try for your bad back"

I heard that rubbing udder balm on your lower lumbar relieves the pain. Any thoughts, on this Mr. Champions?

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Title: Re: the lower back, like an organ
Post by: Marty Champions on June 30, 2014, 03:52:51 PM
I heard that rubbing udder balm on your lower lumbar relieves the pain. Any thoughts, on this Mr. Champions?

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haha no clue if trolling or not but hey if thats time well spent then god fucked you up son
Title: Re: the lower back, like an organ
Post by: TEMPER on June 30, 2014, 05:29:30 PM
much like people get chest pain, head pain, theres always an antidote or cause

the back is as complicated as chest or head pain, thus the back should be treated like an organ for ex.

if you have chest pain youre gonna wanna drop the heme-iron because of the calcification going on clogging the arteries, heme-iron completes the (circuit) lets look at the complete circuit as a bad thing, you eat meat you draw from bone marrow(losing calcium) it gets stuck in heart arteries. back to diet , you will clean it up, and clean up your diet well if your scared enough of dieing

same with back pain, youll clean up your diet to the point where youve done everything, it can be cured and "de-inflamed" to where you can function again

"clogging the arteries" is calcified plaque. Essentially plaque is like a "scab" within the layers of arterial wall.

What causes a scab? Damage.
What causes damage to arteries? Inflammation.
What causes inflammation? chronically high blood sugar levels, and insulin. Among many other things e.g. stress, high blood pressure, obesity, and a lot of other factors.

Meat is not the enemy you stupid fucking hillbilly moron.
Title: Re: the lower back, like an organ
Post by: Marty Champions on June 30, 2014, 05:35:03 PM
"clogging the arteries" is calcified plaque. Essentially plaque is like a "scab" within the layers of arterial wall.

What causes a scab? Damage.
What causes damage to arteries? Inflammation.
What causes inflammation? chronically high blood sugar levels, and insulin. Among many other things e.g. stress, high blood pressure, obesity, and a lot of other factors.

Meat is not the enemy you stupid fucking hillbilly moron.
heme iron causes bone loss , thats why hillbillys need so much tums for to calm that acid reflux they get from all that meat

using "calcium" is your bodys means of  damage control

when calcium cant control all the heme-iron and other ways your arteries build up plaque you get more calcification
Title: Re: the lower back, like an organ
Post by: TEMPER on June 30, 2014, 05:38:04 PM
heme iron causes bone loss , thats why hillbillys need so much tums for to calm that acid reflux they get from all that meat

using "calcium" is your bodys means of  damage control

when calcium cant control all the heme-iron and other ways your arteries build up plaque you get more calcification

The fuck did I just read holy shit...

Ya know John...

With all this talk about "always try to learn" and "knowledge this and that" you should really try and LEARN about the shit you claim. Because it's complete nonsense.

Unless you're just trolling, in which case...Carry on.
Title: Re: the lower back, like an organ
Post by: Marty Champions on June 30, 2014, 05:42:15 PM
The fuck did I just read holy shit...

Ya know John...

With all this talk about "always try to learn" and "knowledge this and that" you should really try and LEARN about the shit you claim. Because it's complete nonsense.

Unless you're just trolling, in which case...Carry on.
hahaha
you get chronically high bloodsugar a few ways

not eating enough

eating too much food and not exercising

eating too much meat with too much food ( your body cannot process meat as fast as other foods thus digestion slows =even less activity=sustained higher blood sugar levels

shit is not rocket surgery
Title: Re: the lower back, like an organ
Post by: TEMPER on June 30, 2014, 05:49:07 PM
hahaha
you get chronically high bloodsugar a few ways

not eating enough

eating too much food and not exercising

eating too much meat with too much food ( your body cannot process meat as fast as other foods thus digestion slows =even less activity=sustained higher blood sugar levels

shit is not rocket surgery

Our bodies process meat just fine. After all we did evolve over the course of millions of years scavenging on whatever we could find, including meat.

As anecdotal as my individual case is, I eat chicken steak and fish meals 5-6 times every day. I'm hungry 2-3 hours after each meal, nutrient dense, consistent, stable blood sugar levels from complex BALANCED meals.

Meanwhile there are vegans, and vegetarians with advanced heart disease, diabetes, and all kinds of other problems. The problem is not meat. It is like you said, overeating, poor macro nutrient ratios, and sedentary lifestyles.
Title: Re: the lower back, like an organ
Post by: Marty Champions on June 30, 2014, 05:53:02 PM
Our bodies process meat just fine. After all we did evolve over the course of millions of years scavenging on whatever we could find, including meat.

As anecdotal as my individual case is, I eat chicken steak and fish meals 5-6 times every day. I'm hungry 2-3 hours after each meal, nutrient dense, consistent, stable blood sugar levels from complex BALANCED meals.

Meanwhile there are vegans, and vegetarians with advanced heart disease, diabetes, and all kinds of other problems. The problem is not meat. It is like you said, overeating, poor macro nutrient ratios, and sedentary lifestyles.


i agree with in bold

but  i could tell so many negative slight signs when eating meat, i had my tonsils out because i was raised on meat diet. your tonsils are a lymph node right in your throat, perfect 'design' for teaching the human right and wrong eating habits. also notice splotchy dry skin in white people who eat meat.

Title: Re: the lower back, like an organ
Post by: TEMPER on June 30, 2014, 06:01:55 PM
i agree with in bold

but  i could tell so many negative slight signs when eating meat, i had my tonsils out because i was raised on meat diet. your tonsils are a lymph node right in your throat, perfect 'design' for teaching the human right and wrong eating habits. also notice splotchy dry skin in white people who eat meat.



The tonsil's purpose is to catch germs before they reach the airway, causing an infection. Sometimes the tonsils themselves can get infected and if fed a constant stream of sugar, bacteria will flourish, thrive, and multiply.

Tonsillitis is a bacterial infection. Bacteria feed mainly on glucose (sugar).

So when you have an infection you would want to starve the bacteria of it's main food source, sugar. If you instead FEED the bacteria soothing foods like mashed potatoes, ice cream, and sweet soothing beverages you are giving the bacteria the perfect environment to thrive, and escalate quickly.





You haven't been fed toxic meat Martin. You've been fed lies....LIES.
Title: Re: the lower back, like an organ
Post by: TEMPER on June 30, 2014, 06:03:37 PM
http://authoritynutrition.com/10-disturbing-reasons-why-sugar-is-bad/
Title: Re: the lower back, like an organ
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on June 30, 2014, 06:04:49 PM
Nope.

And if you have a bad lower back there is little chance it will be fixed in your lifetime.

Very few advances in spinal surgery.

Oh brother  ::)
Title: Re: the lower back, like an organ
Post by: Marty Champions on June 30, 2014, 06:34:20 PM
The tonsil's purpose is to catch germs before they reach the airway, causing an infection. Sometimes the tonsils themselves can get infected and if fed a constant stream of sugar, bacteria will flourish, thrive, and multiply.

Tonsillitis is a bacterial infection. Bacteria feed mainly on glucose (sugar).

So when you have an infection you would want to starve the bacteria of it's main food source, sugar. If you instead FEED the bacteria soothing foods like mashed potatoes, ice cream, and sweet soothing beverages you are giving the bacteria the perfect environment to thrive, and escalate quickly.





You haven't been fed toxic meat Martin. You've been fed lies....LIES.

wrong again my friend when i was young i was body conscious at 13 i was eating nothing but meat because i had a big chubby body my parents never had me eat sugar cereals or soda i was simply not raised on junkfood. i was raised on hotdogs hamburger fish green peas pasta not that much salad i used to eat alot of fiber one i was taught about that need for fiber early on

around 17 i had my tonsils out. this is when i was already dieting eating only meat

i got strep so bad and couldnt eat nothing and the fat dropped even further, i was not healthy
Title: Re: the lower back, like an organ
Post by: Marty Champions on June 30, 2014, 06:39:09 PM
oh boy i love tempers reasoning as to what the tonsils tru function is lol " to get rid of bad bacteria" oh brother

we have hydrochloric acid in our guts to take care of shit
Title: Re: the lower back, like an organ
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on June 30, 2014, 06:42:39 PM
Most likely a lack of orange clay from a 2' depth.
Title: Re: the lower back, like an organ
Post by: THE ARS on June 30, 2014, 06:45:10 PM
Most likely a lack of orange clay from a 2' depth.

That's what my chiropractor told me.

I shit dirt for two days and my back still hurt.
 :-\
Title: Re: the lower back, like an organ
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on June 30, 2014, 06:51:15 PM
That's what my chiropractor told me.

I shit dirt for two days and my back still hurt.
 :-\


Should have tried 30".
Title: Re: the lower back, like an organ
Post by: Hulkotron on June 30, 2014, 06:58:33 PM
That's what my chiropractor told me.

I shit dirt for two days and my back still hurt.
 :-\


This was likely from the buttsex rather than the clay.
Title: Re: the lower back, like an organ
Post by: THE ARS on June 30, 2014, 07:03:16 PM
Should have tried 30".

Thanks.

I'll give that a try.
Title: Re: the lower back, like an organ
Post by: THE ARS on June 30, 2014, 07:05:21 PM
This was likely from the buttsex rather than the clay.

Hmmmmmm.....

It did hurt her.

But I stopped.

Are you saying this is Karma of some kind?
Title: Re: the lower back, like an organ
Post by: no one on June 30, 2014, 08:21:47 PM
haha no clue if trolling or not but hey if thats time well spent then god fucked you up son

hahahahaha fuck :D
Title: Re: the lower back, like an organ
Post by: The Ugly on June 30, 2014, 08:27:30 PM
"clogging the arteries" is calcified plaque. Essentially plaque is like a "scab" within the layers of arterial wall.

What causes a scab? Damage.
What causes damage to arteries? Inflammation.
What causes inflammation? chronically high blood sugar levels, and insulin. Among many other things e.g. stress, high blood pressure, obesity, and a lot of other factors.

Meat is not the enemy you stupid fucking hillbilly moron.

Hey, now.

 :)
Title: Re: the lower back, like an organ
Post by: TEMPER on June 30, 2014, 08:42:00 PM
oh boy i love tempers reasoning as to what the tonsils tru function is lol " to get rid of bad bacteria" oh brother

we have hydrochloric acid in our guts to take care of shit

Funny I got that directly from WebMD...

http://www.webmd.com/oral-health/guide/tonsillitis-symptoms-causes-and-treatments

"At the back of your throat, two masses of tissue called tonsils act as filters, trapping germs that could otherwise enter your airways and cause infection. They also produce antibodies to fight infection. But sometimes the tonsils themselves become infected. Overwhelmed by bacteria or viruses, they swell and become inflamed, a condition known as tonsillitis."


Last time I checked our airways don't contain much hydrochloric acid.

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Title: Re: the lower back, like an organ
Post by: The Ugly on June 30, 2014, 08:50:23 PM
Tonsils, appendix, and gallbladder. Why do we still have these?
Title: Re: the lower back, like an organ
Post by: TEMPER on June 30, 2014, 08:52:22 PM
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Title: Re: the lower back, like an organ
Post by: Marty Champions on June 30, 2014, 08:52:54 PM
Funny I got that directly from WebMD...

http://www.webmd.com/oral-health/guide/tonsillitis-symptoms-causes-and-treatments

"At the back of your throat, two masses of tissue called tonsils act as filters, trapping germs that could otherwise enter your airways and cause infection. They also produce antibodies to fight infection. But sometimes the tonsils themselves become infected. Overwhelmed by bacteria or viruses, they swell and become inflamed, a condition known as tonsillitis."


Last time I checked our airways don't contain much hydrochloric acid.

hahah trapping germs , by what mechanism and how. thats full of shit your teeth and tounge will do the same.

if you havent realized it this world wants to trick you and lie to you

the thing is you can still get strep with your tonsils out but not as bad

i havent gotten a sore throat in 7 years since being a vegetarian but i got the shit all the time before then.

eating meat makes you full=perfect for diet and calorie reduction , also meat gives you a low quality energy that is not ideal for health
Title: Re: the lower back, like an organ
Post by: Marty Champions on June 30, 2014, 08:53:30 PM
Tonsils, appendix, and gallbladder. Why do we still have these?
they are all lymphnodes they will react undesirably when you dont eat right
Title: Re: the lower back, like an organ
Post by: Marty Champions on June 30, 2014, 08:55:52 PM
your gut full of good bacteria and acid is your only filter not your tonsils

i wish i was smart enough to pick up on this as a youngster so i could still have my tonsils back in  :-\
Title: Re: the lower back, like an organ
Post by: The Ugly on June 30, 2014, 09:00:05 PM
they are all lymphnodes they will react undesirably when you dont eat right

Don't we have other organs that already handle this?
Title: Re: the lower back, like an organ
Post by: Marty Champions on June 30, 2014, 09:02:13 PM
Don't we have other organs that already handle this?
we have many lymphnodes and blood filtering organs with complex features

tempers theory is bs
Title: Re: the lower back, like an organ
Post by: Primemuscle on June 30, 2014, 09:08:45 PM
wrong again my friend when i was young i was body conscious at 13 i was eating nothing but meat because i had a big chubby body my parents never had me eat sugar cereals or soda i was simply not raised on junkfood. i was raised on hotdogs hamburger fish green peas pasta not that much salad i used to eat alot of fiber one i was taught about that need for fiber early on

around 17 i had my tonsils out. this is when i was already dieting eating only meat

i got strep so bad and couldnt eat nothing and the fat dropped even further, i was not healthy

"I was simply not raised on junk food. I was raised on hotdogs...." Oh brother!
Title: Re: the lower back, like an organ
Post by: Primemuscle on June 30, 2014, 09:21:37 PM
Recently my wife was on dialysis for acute kidney failure. The dialysis diet is very exacting as to what and how much to eat. Guess what Marty? The dialysis diet requires high quality protein because dialysis robs the body of protein and what was recommended to replace the lost protein was.... wait....yes....MEAT! For more about the dialysis/acute and chronic kidney failure diets check this website's recipes out, http://www.davita.com/recipes/chicken-and-turkey. My wife followed the prescribed diet exactly as directed. She is no longer on dialysis.
Title: Re: the lower back, like an organ
Post by: Parker on June 30, 2014, 09:32:52 PM
we have many lymphnodes and blood filtering organs with complex features

tempers theory is bs
It's not theory, he posted it from WebMD.
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Title: Re: the lower back, like an organ
Post by: Marty Champions on July 01, 2014, 05:55:56 AM
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they are still lymph nodes

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The tonsils are lymph nodes in the back of the mouth and top of the throat. They help to filter out bacteria and other germs to prevent infection in the body.

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001043.htm


what do you reckon lymph nodes do hmmmm you have them all through out your body  ::)
Title: Re: the lower back, like an organ
Post by: Marty Champions on July 01, 2014, 06:31:02 AM
gotta love the mentality

"if tonsils are bad cut them out"

"if your back hurts get surgery"

insane this world has become

we forget the amazing design that we are
Title: Re: the lower back, like an organ
Post by: Primemuscle on July 01, 2014, 10:00:54 AM
gotta love the mentality

"if tonsils are bad cut them out"

"if your back hurts get surgery"

insane this world has become

we forget the amazing design that we are

I must give you credit, because this time you may be onto something with regards to spinal issues. I have spinal arthritis and degenerative disk disease which is causing sciatica. The degenerative disk disease is a by product of old age. According to an article I read, meat may affect arthritis. http://www.livestrong.com/article/476509-the-effects-of-eating-meat-on-arthritis/ (http://www.livestrong.com/article/476509-the-effects-of-eating-meat-on-arthritis/).

This does not mean I will give up eating meat though. I am a firm believer in doing things in moderation. Eating several pounds of chicken a day, as some bodybuilders claim to do, cannot be healthy. Small portions of meat and fish in one's diet are not likely to cause one any problems.

Speaking of moderation. In the past you have claimed to binge on some pretty strange things. I remember when you were eating clay regularly and there have been other things too. If I were to offer you advice, I'd say try these things in moderation.

One thing I do for better health is drink an 8 oz glass of low sodium V-8 juice most days. V-8 is very high in potassium which is good for one's heart. I also take a magnesium supplement because it is also good for the heart and for the nerves. It is probably better to eat a bunch of vegetables for the potassium and I do eat vegetables, but the V-8 is and extra boost and insurance that I am getting enough potassium.
Title: Re: the lower back, like an organ
Post by: The Ugly on July 01, 2014, 01:28:04 PM
gotta love the mentality

"if tonsils are bad cut them out"

"if your back hurts get surgery"

insane this world has become

we forget the amazing design that we are

So when the appendix bursts, no removal, just admire it for its amazing design.
Title: Re: the lower back, like an organ
Post by: Primemuscle on July 01, 2014, 01:34:14 PM
So when the appendix bursts, no removal, just admire it for its amazing design.

He's a naturalist. He let's nature take it's course and doesn't intervene unless it is to eat clay or some leafy vegetables. If we all lived that way, things might be better.....one thing for sure, the world would be a lot less populated.
Title: Re: the lower back, like an organ
Post by: tleilaxutank on July 01, 2014, 01:34:23 PM
heme iron causes bone loss , thats why hillbillys need so much tums for to calm that acid reflux they get from all that meat

using "calcium" is your bodys means of  damage control

when calcium cant control all the heme-iron and other ways your arteries build up plaque you get more calcification

It is a testament to the human spirit that you have over 27000 posts of this foolishness. To be able to consistently pound out this drivel is truly impressive...I'm in awe

:o