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Shitcanned. Even lost his broadcasting gig. Damn.
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"Subsequent to his retirement, it was revealed on June 28, 2014 by the NSAC that Sonnen had failed a second random drug test - the third failed drug test throughout his MMA career - due to the presence of human growth hormone (HGH), recombinant human erythropoietin (EPO), anastrozole, and human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG)."
UFC and FOX Sports terminated him for failed drugs tests. I guess Dana had no use for him.
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He was good with the commentary, it's a shame.
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Jason Blaha pinpoints exactly what happened in the case of Chael Sonnen.
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Jason Blaha pinpoints exactly what happened in the case of Chael Sonnen.
That's one extremely uninteresting man. A real dullard.
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dude's a bum.
he talked shit about Brazilians and called himself 'American gangster'... but he's an embarrassment to white American men.
he tried to discredit Wanderlei's wins in Pride saying he was on PED's and whatnot..
well, he's the fuckin pussy testing positive for the very shit he cried about.
not to mention... what a piece of shit he was as a fighter. "WEC Champ".. woopiddy-fucken-do. way to win the belt in the Busch-league against a guy who was fucked up out of his mind on Roofies, buddy.
then what? he gets title fight after title fight in the UFC and TANKS in every fight except the Anderson fight (in which he failed the test), and he couldn't finish the fight (and got finished by Anderson)... hell, he even landed 200 or 300+ strikes on Anderson and couldn't finish him. (btw, in case you didn't know, that's an enormous amount of landed strikes).
so he was a good talker and hyped his fights? so what... I want to see a good fight between good fighters. not some bum talk shit about the other fighter for weeks and when it comes time, gets embarrassed on live PPV.
I should start an online petition for Chael to stop calling himself an "American Man"... dudes an embarrassment.
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Jason Blaha pinpoints exactly what happened in the case of Chael Sonnen.
Who listens to this garbage anyways??
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(http://msn.foxsports.com/content/dam/fsdigital/fscom/UFC/images/2014/01/07/010714-UFC-Chael-Sonnen-Brittany-Smith-DG-PI-2.jpg)
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He was a very good fighter, he stood toe to toe with the best and always went out to fight, not score points or dance around like we see all to often. He took any fight on short notice. They all juice except a small few like bj Penn.
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Chael was the greatest
Best talker in MMA as well, pity he lost the broadcasting gig.
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Come on, one of the few who was cool listening too.
His heckling of Silva was awesome.
Frankly, I stopped digging the UFC after the Tank/Kimo/Shamrock era.
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That fucking blows big time. I really like that dude. I hope it will all calm down in a little.
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Chael was the greatest
Best talker in MMA as well, pity he lost the broadcasting gig.
if he wanted to talk and back up zero % of what he said, he should've been a WWE wrestler instead.
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He was a very good fighter, he stood toe to toe with the best and always went out to fight, not score points or dance around like we see all to often. He took any fight on short notice. They all juice except a small few like bj Penn.
HAHAHAHA and u know this?
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Was great seeing him humble Anderson Silva in the first fight.
The look on Silvas face when he got tagged was priceless.
One can only wish Chael the best in his next endeavor.
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He was the most entertaining guy in MMA. It will be boring without him.
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I think Chael was/is very entertaining and is good for the sport of MMA. There are not enough vocal guys that can add to the overall experience of watching MMA.
Here's another tidbit for those of you who are not too well versed on PED's and their involvement in the sport of MMA. I train every single week (2-3x/week) at Renzo Gracie's academy. We have about 15-20 professional MMA fighters, 65% of them are from the UFC, the rest are from either 1FC, Glory or Bellator. I've spoken to the vast majority of them and I'd say half of them have either used PED's in the not so distant past or are still using them and simply cycling them in such a way that they test negative come sampling time.
Who works out at our academy?? Georges St. Pierre, Chris Weidman, Gian Villante, Roy Nelson, Frank Mir, Frankie Edgar, Francis Carmont, Rafael Natal, Rousimar Palhares and a bunch of others I do not want to name because they are the main ones using. I speak to most and they do not hide the fact that half the locker room is on the stuff.
This shit is rampant in the sport of MMA. Some guys get popped and others don't.
I say, cut the bullshit and let them all use PED's. What we as fans like to see are super human fighters beating the living shit out of each other and doing things in that ring that no one else has ever ventured to try. Just as we like to see baseball players obliterate balls out of the park, we also like to see fighters perform like Vitor Belfort when he is on the gear. Everyone in professional sports uses steroids, from baseball players, football players, basketball players, soccer players to even members of the Olympic teams. Let's just even out the playing field and let everyone use the stuff at their own discretion and ideally with medical monitoring/surveillance to assure some level of physiological controls (3-6 month blood work) as to not completely shut down their pituitary gland and/or develop any preneoplastic, cardiac, renal or hepatic pathologies.
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I didn't like it when i was younger (PED in Sports, Martial Arts etc), but now that i am older, i FULLY agree with OneMoreRep!
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Chael will probably wind up at bellator as a commentator / analyst..
Ufc loss..
Dana white is going to have a meltdown when that happens..
Unless he is paying with a no-compete clause / stay at home money $$
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I think Chael was/is very entertaining and is good for the sport of MMA. There are not enough vocal guys that can add to the overall experience of watching MMA.
Here's another tidbit for those of you who are not too well versed on PED's and their involvement in the sport of MMA. I train every single week (2-3x/week) at Renzo Gracie's academy. We have about 15-20 professional MMA fighters, 65% of them are from the UFC, the rest are from either 1FC, Glory or Bellator. I've spoken to the vast majority of them and I'd say half of them have either used PED's in the not so distant past or are still using them and simply cycling them in such a way that they test negative come sampling time.
Who works out at our academy?? Georges St. Pierre, Chris Weidman, Gian Villante, Roy Nelson, Frank Mir, Frankie Edgar, Francis Carmont, Rafael Natal, Rousimar Palhares and a bunch of others I do not want to name because they are the main ones using. I speak to most and they do not hide the fact that half the locker room is on the stuff.
This shit is rampant in the sport of MMA. Some guys get popped and others don't.
I say, cut the bullshit and let them all use PED's. What we as fans like to see are super human fighters beating the living shit out of each other and doing things in that ring that no one else has ever ventured to try. Just as we like to see baseball players obliterate balls out of the park, we also like to see fighters perform like Vitor Belfort when he is on the gear. Everyone in professional sports uses steroids, from baseball players, football players, basketball players, soccer players to even members of the Olympic teams. Let's just even out the playing field and let everyone use the stuff at their own discretion and ideally with medical monitoring/surveillance to assure some level of physiological controls (3-6 month blood work) as to not completely shut down their pituitary gland and/or develop any preneoplastic, cardiac, renal or hepatic pathologies.
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I disagree with you. I think it's rationalization when you say all sports are using steroids to justify your use. I'm saying the majority in sport don't and it's cheating when everyone isn't on them. Kids look up to athletes. The last thing I want is high school kids and college kids shooting a syringe in their ass to play a game.
Right now law suits are flying over heart attacks and strokes regarding hormone replacement with what amounts to ridiculously low doses. What are we encouraging here?
It's a risk to health. It's like the rationalization argument that your uncle Fred smoked for 65 years and he's still kicking. Is smoking a risk to health? It sure is.
Where are you training with Renzo? Back in the day he was mainly in NY but he came into the Red Bank, NJ school from time to time to teach with Craig Kukuk.
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I disagree with you. I think it's rationalization when you say all sports are using steroids to justify your use.
Just about every professional MMA fighter I speak to at Renzo's academy says that more than half of the guys are on PEDs. Alexander Rodriguez, Sosa, Mcgwire, Dwain Chambers, Marion Jones and the rest of the guys that have gotten caught have made mention of the fact that they are not alone. Lance Armstrong was caught and retired. During the BALCO Scandal in 2003, it was also revealed that are large contingent of NFL players were using PEDs. Victor Conte revealed that over 60% of Olympic athletes were all doping. So, lets see, we have MMA, Baseball, Football, racing cyclists and even Olympic competitors that have all been involved in the use of PEDs. I don't think that is a rationalization, it is simply the truth.
I'm saying the majority in sport don't and it's cheating when everyone isn't on them.
That's what you are saying, but clearly Belfort, Sonnen, Lance Armstrong, A-Rod, Mcgwire, Canseco, Victor Conte and former NFL coaches (see Jim Haslett as an example) can't be wrong in stating what they have.
You are correct in that it can be considered cheating when everyone isn't on them. This is why I support allowing widespread use of them, assuming they are at the very least medically monitored to insure optimum safety.
Kids look up to athletes. The last thing I want is high school kids and college kids shooting a syringe in their ass to play a game.
It's not the athletes fault that kids look up to them. Athletes should not be role models. They are businessmen performing for money and simply that. Kids shouldn't look up to guys that win the genetic lottery and end up getting a large contract to play a sport that they have a natural, genetic tendency to excel at. The vast majority of kids will never make it to being a professional athlete. Parents are there to hopefully serve as role models. Professional athletes today are drug addicts, criminals, rapists and just about everything under the sun except for role models.
Regarding the last thing you want is for kids to shoot themselves up the ass with a syringe. It's happening and it's happening every single day. This is not only at the college level, but also at the high school level. I'm about 50 years old now and it was happening when I was playing high school and college football.
Right now law suits are flying over heart attacks and strokes regarding hormone replacement with what amounts to ridiculously low doses. What are we encouraging here?
My philosophy is simple. Allow for widespread use of hormone replacement therapy. This approach would allow for athletes to use hormonal enhancements while under the supervision of an endocrinologist that can properly monitor their free/total testosterone, estrogen + CBC, CMP, Lipid Panel, TSH/T4, HA1C, ESR, CRP, & UA. If it makes you feel any happier, said athletes (since they can afford it) can also have a cardiologist run yearly EKGs, Stress tests, Echos and Cardiac CT's to be certain that cardiac abnormalities are not present.
It's a risk to health. It's like the rationalization argument that your uncle Fred smoked for 65 years and he's still kicking. Is smoking a risk to health? It sure is.
If you actively monitor your health, HRT is relatively safe. Millions of Americans are safely being treated by their Endocrinologists nationwide, as well as worldwide.
Where are you training with Renzo? Back in the day he was mainly in NY but he came into the Red Bank, NJ school from time to time to teach with Craig Kukuk.
Renzo is still teaching/training 95% of the time at his academy (224 West 30th Street). He recently had Chris Weidman come by every Monday to do Muay Thai training and Wednesdays to do Danaher's mid-afternoon no-gi class.
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He'll be a movie star. He would make a great bad guy. Mark my words. He's already worth $10mil. He can live without Mma financially.
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HAHAHAHA and u know this?
And now you look like a tool.....
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Mike Tyson backed out of a street fight with Chael when called out
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I think Chael was/is very entertaining and is good for the sport of MMA. There are not enough vocal guys that can add to the overall experience of watching MMA.
Here's another tidbit for those of you who are not too well versed on PED's and their involvement in the sport of MMA. I train every single week (2-3x/week) at Renzo Gracie's academy. We have about 15-20 professional MMA fighters, 65% of them are from the UFC, the rest are from either 1FC, Glory or Bellator. I've spoken to the vast majority of them and I'd say half of them have either used PED's in the not so distant past or are still using them and simply cycling them in such a way that they test negative come sampling time.
Who works out at our academy?? Georges St. Pierre, Chris Weidman, Gian Villante, Roy Nelson, Frank Mir, Frankie Edgar, Francis Carmont, Rafael Natal, Rousimar Palhares and a bunch of others I do not want to name because they are the main ones using. I speak to most and they do not hide the fact that half the locker room is on the stuff.
This shit is rampant in the sport of MMA. Some guys get popped and others don't.
I say, cut the bullshit and let them all use PED's. What we as fans like to see are super human fighters beating the living shit out of each other and doing things in that ring that no one else has ever ventured to try. Just as we like to see baseball players obliterate balls out of the park, we also like to see fighters perform like Vitor Belfort when he is on the gear. Everyone in professional sports uses steroids, from baseball players, football players, basketball players, soccer players to even members of the Olympic teams. Let's just even out the playing field and let everyone use the stuff at their own discretion and ideally with medical monitoring/surveillance to assure some level of physiological controls (3-6 month blood work) as to not completely shut down their pituitary gland and/or develop any preneoplastic, cardiac, renal or hepatic pathologies.
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Amen OMR, professional or high level amateur athletes will always do what it takes to be the best. Makes no difference whether there is testing or not. It's one of the reasons they get to where they are.
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He was a very good fighter, he stood toe to toe with the best and always went out to fight, not score points or dance around like we see all to often. He took any fight on short notice. They all juice except a small few like bj Penn.
Didn't Penn at one time say working out with weights is dumb for fighters and then he started himself working out with weights?
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Didn't Penn at one time say working out with weights is dumb for fighters and then he started himself working out with weights?
Yup but as one more rep says mma fighters talk openly about usuage in the gym because they are all on it but it's well known bj Penn is against it, not because of moral reasons he just doesn't think it will make a fighter better.
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LOL @ all the virgins who think that the elite in ANY sport don't take some sort of hormone/PED.
The good ones just don't get caught. (It's not cheating until you get caught)
Chael was very outspoken and the shot callers (who ever they may be) shitcanned him because he outlived his usefulness.
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Didn't Penn at one time say working out with weights is dumb for fighters and then he started himself working out with weights?
Penn says a lot of dumb stuff. Like the time he fought gsp he claimed he would die in the ring and would never quit. He quit by the end of the 3rd or 4th round.
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And now you look like a tool.....
::) again, how do YOU know for sure??
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Yup but as one more rep says mma fighters talk openly about usuage in the gym because they are all on it but it's well known bj Penn is against it, not because of moral reasons he just doesn't think it will make a fighter better.
Yes but why would Penn start lifting weights like he did if he didn't think strength would make him better? And if he lifted weights for strength, then certainly PED's would be the next logical step...
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LOL @ all the virgins who think that the elite in ANY sport don't take some sort of hormone/PED.
The good ones just don't get caught. (It's not cheating until you get caught)
Chael was very outspoken and the shot callers (who ever they may be) shitcanned him because he outlived his usefulness.
Exactly! Just bc bj penn says he doesn't take PED's u guys take his word for it hahaha
Well, mike o Hearn is all natural bc he says so, all muscle mania competitors say they are natural , so they must be... Freakin gullible people
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Interestingly one of GSP's reason for staying out of the ufc was his insistence for tougher testing. He's been accused on numerous occassions for juicing himself. He insisted on paying for himself and Hendricks to undergo strict testing but Hendricks backed out. He's gone on record stating that UFC needs to institute stricter testing protocols. He's also a VADA sponsored athlete so maybe this plays put in his favor.
re chael- he 'll most likely be back in the UFC by next year. He's one of Dana's golden boys so he just needs to sit out the storm. When he got caught first he had ratio of 16:1 the highest ever detected until brian bowles got caught with 20:1. If the UFC wanted to make an example he should have been fired a long time. He'll be back as an announcer or media personality for the UFC. I doubt he'd go anywhere else because he wont want to burn his bridges with dana unless its with dana's approval. Franklin got dana's blessings before moving on to onefc. Tuesday night on FOX Sports 1, White spoke on the matter, saying it wasn't easy to cut someone he considers a friend.
"You know, its never easy making decisions like this," White said. "You know, Chael is a person I personally care about, I know a lot of people at FOX care about him too. The guy had four banned substances in his system. Four banned substances in his system leading up to a fight here in Las Vegas."
Ped - as nearly everyone on this thread mentions its an ongoing saga. Everyone uses some variant. It will be interesting to see the waves the new more sensitive testing will cause within the mma ranks. Apparently bellator doesnt test much if at all.
I presume chael is still fighting at metamoris
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Yes but why would Penn start lifting weights like he did if he didn't think strength would make him better? And if he lifted weights for strength, then certainly PED's would be the next logical step...
Technically he should have looked into an enhancer that jacks up his endurance. That was always his weak point.
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LOL @ all the virgins who think that the elite in ANY sport don't take some sort of hormone/PED.
The good ones just don't get caught. (It's not cheating until you get caught)
Chael was very outspoken and the shot callers (who ever they may be) shitcanned him because he outlived his usefulness.
It's actually cheating beforehand, but mindless cliches are always welcome.
Beside the point, though.
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Exactly! Just bc bj penn says he doesn't take PED's u guys take his word for it hahaha
Well, mike o Hearn is all natural bc he says so, all muscle mania competitors say they are natural , so they must be... Freakin gullible people
If Bj Penn says gravity suits work, then they work!
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Who listens to this garbage anyways??
I subscribe to him for the sole reason of crowbarring his name into getbig threads. 8)
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I think Chael was/is very entertaining and is good for the sport of MMA. There are not enough vocal guys that can add to the overall experience of watching MMA.
Here's another tidbit for those of you who are not too well versed on PED's and their involvement in the sport of MMA. I train every single week (2-3x/week) at Renzo Gracie's academy. We have about 15-20 professional MMA fighters, 65% of them are from the UFC, the rest are from either 1FC, Glory or Bellator. I've spoken to the vast majority of them and I'd say half of them have either used PED's in the not so distant past or are still using them and simply cycling them in such a way that they test negative come sampling time.
Who works out at our academy?? Georges St. Pierre, Chris Weidman, Gian Villante, Roy Nelson, Frank Mir, Frankie Edgar, Francis Carmont, Rafael Natal, Rousimar Palhares and a bunch of others I do not want to name because they are the main ones using. I speak to most and they do not hide the fact that half the locker room is on the stuff.
This shit is rampant in the sport of MMA. Some guys get popped and others don't.
I say, cut the bullshit and let them all use PED's. What we as fans like to see are super human fighters beating the living shit out of each other and doing things in that ring that no one else has ever ventured to try. Just as we like to see baseball players obliterate balls out of the park, we also like to see fighters perform like Vitor Belfort when he is on the gear. Everyone in professional sports uses steroids, from baseball players, football players, basketball players, soccer players to even members of the Olympic teams. Let's just even out the playing field and let everyone use the stuff at their own discretion and ideally with medical monitoring/surveillance to assure some level of physiological controls (3-6 month blood work) as to not completely shut down their pituitary gland and/or develop any preneoplastic, cardiac, renal or hepatic pathologies.
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100% spot on. There is nothing remotely "healthy" about professional sports. It's a gladiator thing. Professional athletes ultimately destroy their bodies over time for a paycheck and your entertainment pleasure. Ever hang with an ex-pro football player who didn't have major physical issues? And for a boxer or other kind of fighter, it's inevitable. PED's do have a place. I think it's equally about performance enhancing and physical recovery though. Damage has to be repaired somehow. Obviously, all of this should be done with real doctors and medical professionals supervising - not some "guru" or friend of a friend who has little if any real understanding of the effects drugs have on the body. By making PED's illegal, you end up with a mess.
I am friends with one of Lance Armstrong's former teammates. He did the Tour de France multiple times, and told me of the wear and tear racing 100+ miles a day for 3 weeks has on you. When he eventually decided to take EPO and transfusions, he said it was like the previous days efforts never happened. Recovery was miraculous. And then he raced through the Alps for another 6+ hours, day in and day out. The Tour de France is a pure entertainment spectacle, with big money, TV and contracts. It absolutely has nothing to do with clean living.
This role model stuff is best reserved for parents or family members. And even then, these things can be hit or miss. When I was a kid, one of our "role models" was a Catholic priest my parents respected deeply. But later, we found out what he really was all about.
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Fair point, OMR, but the baseball thing bums me out. To crush the old records (Maris, Aaron, etc.), when you're obviously juiced up, sucks for historians. As much as I loved the McGwire/Sosa battle at the time, it sucks in hindsight. The Cobbs,, Ruths, Williiamses, Mantles, and Mayses, those fuckers were legit. Shouldn't have to share the Hall with juicers.
At least bodybuilding doesn't have to deal with this shit; no one ever gets popped here. IFBB keeps its "athletes" clean.
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I would guess that Mark Hunt and Roy Nelson are both natural.
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U really are naive, must be a 20 yr old pimple faced dork that still buys muscle tech products thinking he can turn into Phil Heath
That right I registered on get big when I was 10years old. I used to train with a lot of mma fighters when I was younger, I knew very few clean ones. People usually start mma cause they were insecure just pike bodybuilders, pair that with the competitiveness and peds go hand in hand.
Even 180ib Royce Gracie tested postive, Ken shamrock, Randy couture (trt), big foot, endless more if you even knew your ass from your elbow you'd know this and exactly how.it's done to pass the tests.
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That right I registered on get big when I was 10years old. I used to train with a lot of mma fighters when I was younger, I knew very few clean ones. People usually start mma cause they were insecure just pike bodybuilders, pair that with the competitiveness and peds go hand in hand.
Even 180ib Royce Gracie tested postive, Ken shamrock, Randy couture (trt), big foot, endless more if you even knew your ass from your elbow you'd know this and exactly how.it's done to pass the tests.
Doesn't matter who u know, the question remains and I'm asking u , do YOU know for sure Bj Penn is clean???
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I disagree with you. I think it's rationalization when you say all sports are using steroids to justify your use. I'm saying the majority in sport don't and it's cheating when everyone isn't on them. Kids look up to athletes. The last thing I want is high school kids and college kids shooting a syringe in their ass to play a game.
Right now law suits are flying over heart attacks and strokes regarding hormone replacement with what amounts to ridiculously low doses. What are we encouraging here?
It's a risk to health. It's like the rationalization argument that your uncle Fred smoked for 65 years and he's still kicking. Is smoking a risk to health? It sure is.
Where are you training with Renzo? Back in the day he was mainly in NY but he came into the Red Bank, NJ school from time to time to teach with Craig Kukuk.
High school kids are already shooting up steroids and taking orals. Hell, high school kids are using heroin.
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I don't have a problem with chael using ped's.
what I have a problem with is that he ran his mouth about Wanderlei being a steroid user in Pride.
I think chael's a bitch.
i.e. somebody who runs his mouth and tries to make up for his lack of ability by talking. when it comes time to put up or shut up, he fails, consistently.
I'm all for using PED's in every sport.
some people's (lame) argument is that "well, if you NEED trt, maybe your body can't take it and you need to retire"...
well... the same can (and should) be said for guys needing their ACL's or rotator cuffs repaired... or hands repaired.
get rid of TRT, you should get rid of ALL surgically repaired athletes.
nobody wants to see skinny (or fat) and slow guys fight... the same way nobody wants to watch 135lb guys fight.
we want to see big, strong, fast, and aggressive 220lb men try to knock each other out or rip their arms out of the socket for 15mins.
the same way we want to watch big, strong, and fast football players running and hitting as hard as they can for 60mins.
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dude's a bum.
he talked shit about Brazilians and called himself 'American gangster'... but he's an embarrassment to white American men.
he tried to discredit Wanderlei's wins in Pride saying he was on PED's and whatnot..
well, he's the fuckin pussy testing positive for the very shit he cried about.
not to mention... what a piece of shit he was as a fighter. "WEC Champ".. woopiddy-fucken-do. way to win the belt in the Busch-league against a guy who was fucked up out of his mind on Roofies, buddy.
then what? he gets title fight after title fight in the UFC and TANKS in every fight except the Anderson fight (in which he failed the test), and he couldn't finish the fight (and got finished by Anderson)... hell, he even landed 200 or 300+ strikes on Anderson and couldn't finish him. (btw, in case you didn't know, that's an enormous amount of landed strikes).
so he was a good talker and hyped his fights? so what... I want to see a good fight between good fighters. not some bum talk shit about the other fighter for weeks and when it comes time, gets embarrassed on live PPV.
I should start an online petition for Chael to stop calling himself an "American Man"... dudes an embarrassment.
you lose some cash in the clink on his rematch, or what ???
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you lose some cash in the clink on his rematch, or what ???
Definitely anti-Chael. Dude insulted an entire Third World country, how cool is that?
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Sonnen would be a great fit in the WWE...hell, half his interviews are riffs on old wrestling promos.
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High school kids are already shooting up steroids and taking orals. Hell, high school kids are using heroin.
High School kids were shooting up steroids and taking orals in the early 80s also...Guys at my gym talk about how when they were in high school, this guy and that guy were using...And these guys are pretty old so their high school days were early 80s...
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sonnen is a pure wordsmith
fighting need guys who can rock a mic
either articulate like sonnen
or bad ass like diaz
he will be back when the shit storm dies down
i agree with omr just let the guys juice up
they will try and get in the lightest weight class they can
so its not like they will all end up coming in at 5 ft 4 200 pounds plus
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being good on the mic is one thing, but he's not an exciting fighter to watch.
since his lose to Anderson he's 3 and 3... with a submission over Brian Stann (woopiddy-do.. there's a top 10 fighter, right?), a decision over Bisping (in which even he said he thought he lost... besides, it's Bisping... woopiddy do, again), and a choke over Shogun (another with a benzo/sedative problem, who hasn't been the same fighter since Pride, much less multiple knee injuries).
then he actually makes it to the 2nd round (barely) in the rematch with Anderson, followed by 2 first round ko's.
how does this guy deserve all the title shots he gets?
his other ufc win was over trevor prangley back around '06.. with losses to sobral and horn. (both of whom submitted Chael.. the supposedly great wrestler)... he couldn't finnish dan miller, okami, or marquart and won via decision. (against at least 2 of whom were also PED users)
chael is the skinny Brock Lesnar, except Brock's fights are actually exciting.
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being good on the mic is one thing, but he's not an exciting fighter to watch.
since his lose to Anderson he's 3 and 3... with a submission over Brian Stann (woopiddy-do.. there's a top 10 fighter, right?), a decision over Bisping (in which even he said he thought he lost... besides, it's Bisping... woopiddy do, again), and a choke over Shogun (another with a benzo/sedative problem, who hasn't been the same fighter since Pride, much less multiple knee injuries).
then he actually makes it to the 2nd round (barely) in the rematch with Anderson, followed by 2 first round ko's.
how does this guy deserve all the title shots he gets?
his other ufc win was over trevor prangley back around '06.. with losses to sobral and horn. (both of whom submitted Chael.. the supposedly great wrestler)... he couldn't finnish dan miller, okami, or marquart and won via decision. (against at least 2 of whom were also PED users)
chael is the skinny Brock Lesnar, except Brock's fights are actually exciting.
he is a very boring fighter lay and pray
but he is very charismatic
the type of athlete that can be a cross over and draw more fans into the sport
a lot of these guys can hardly string a sentence together
like it or not the media side of the business matters as much as the fights
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being good on the mic is one thing, but he's not an exciting fighter to watch.
since his lose to Anderson he's 3 and 3... with a submission over Brian Stann (woopiddy-do.. there's a top 10 fighter, right?), a decision over Bisping (in which even he said he thought he lost... besides, it's Bisping... woopiddy do, again), and a choke over Shogun (another with a benzo/sedative problem, who hasn't been the same fighter since Pride, much less multiple knee injuries).
then he actually makes it to the 2nd round (barely) in the rematch with Anderson, followed by 2 first round ko's.
how does this guy deserve all the title shots he gets?
his other ufc win was over trevor prangley back around '06.. with losses to sobral and horn. (both of whom submitted Chael.. the supposedly great wrestler)... he couldn't finnish dan miller, okami, or marquart and won via decision. (against at least 2 of whom were also PED users)
chael is the skinny Brock Lesnar, except Brock's fights are actually exciting.
I remember back in 2010 when Chael talked all that crap about Lesnar.
Lesnar was asked about Chael's comments on the Jim Rome show. Brock said that he had no idea who Chael was. It was classic!
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bj penn is using TRT, do some research fellas n u will c, so is frank mir as well as others
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bj penn is using TRT, do some research fellas n u will c, so is frank mir as well as others
Bigfoot too
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Lol so the last of the guys who swore against trt are on too. Like I said they all juice
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Lol so the last of the guys who swore against trt are on too. Like I said they all juice
I would bet $1000 that Roy Nelson does not use any form of steroids.
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being good on the mic is one thing, but he's not an exciting fighter to watch.
since his lose to Anderson he's 3 and 3... with a submission over Brian Stann (woopiddy-do.. there's a top 10 fighter, right?), a decision over Bisping (in which even he said he thought he lost... besides, it's Bisping... woopiddy do, again), and a choke over Shogun (another with a benzo/sedative problem, who hasn't been the same fighter since Pride, much less multiple knee injuries).
then he actually makes it to the 2nd round (barely) in the rematch with Anderson, followed by 2 first round ko's.
how does this guy deserve all the title shots he gets?
his other ufc win was over trevor prangley back around '06.. with losses to sobral and horn. (both of whom submitted Chael.. the supposedly great wrestler)... he couldn't finnish dan miller, okami, or marquart and won via decision. (against at least 2 of whom were also PED users)
chael is the skinny Brock Lesnar, except Brock's fights are actually exciting.
Why you gotta slam Stann, though? Dude brings it. Unleashes the dogs, which is what we want, no? Plus, he's a gentleman and a patriot.
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I would bet $1000 that Roy Nelson does not use any form of steroids.
I don't know man...What about this guy?
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Shitcanned. Even lost his broadcasting gig. Damn.
great news
Could not have happened to a bigger, more phony asshole.
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Was great seeing him humble Anderson Silva in the first fight.
The look on Silvas face when he got tagged was priceless.
One can only wish Chael the best in his next endeavor.
;D
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I think Chael was/is very entertaining and is good for the sport of MMA. There are not enough vocal guys that can add to the overall experience of watching MMA.
Here's another tidbit for those of you who are not too well versed on PED's and their involvement in the sport of MMA. I train every single week (2-3x/week) at Renzo Gracie's academy. We have about 15-20 professional MMA fighters, 65% of them are from the UFC, the rest are from either 1FC, Glory or Bellator. I've spoken to the vast majority of them and I'd say half of them have either used PED's in the not so distant past or are still using them and simply cycling them in such a way that they test negative come sampling time.
Who works out at our academy?? Georges St. Pierre, Chris Weidman, Gian Villante, Roy Nelson, Frank Mir, Frankie Edgar, Francis Carmont, Rafael Natal, Rousimar Palhares and a bunch of others I do not want to name because they are the main ones using. I speak to most and they do not hide the fact that half the locker room is on the stuff.
This shit is rampant in the sport of MMA. Some guys get popped and others don't.
I say, cut the bullshit and let them all use PED's. What we as fans like to see are super human fighters beating the living shit out of each other and doing things in that ring that no one else has ever ventured to try. Just as we like to see baseball players obliterate balls out of the park, we also like to see fighters perform like Vitor Belfort when he is on the gear. Everyone in professional sports uses steroids, from baseball players, football players, basketball players, soccer players to even members of the Olympic teams. Let's just even out the playing field and let everyone use the stuff at their own discretion and ideally with medical monitoring/surveillance to assure some level of physiological controls (3-6 month blood work) as to not completely shut down their pituitary gland and/or develop any preneoplastic, cardiac, renal or hepatic pathologies.
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WTF? ::)
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I would bet $1000 that Roy Nelson does not use any form of steroids.
I heard roy thought he was buying some sust n the shady dealer sold him estrogen instead :D, that explains roys gyno n smooth appearance. roy is still as tough as they come tho in that cage
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Why you gotta slam Stann, though? Dude brings it. Unleashes the dogs, which is what we want, no? Plus, he's a gentleman and a patriot.
sure, he's a great guy, and he fights hard, but his skill-set wasn't exactly great. during his career, I wouldn't have had in him the top 7 of the division... he took out Leben, so that's saying something, but leben wasn't exactly a well rounded fighter either... although he was exciting to watch. I'd pay $50 to watch Leben fight anybody, but wouldn't pay $5 to watch Chael fight even Petis.
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sure, he's a great guy, and he fights hard, but his skill-set wasn't exactly great. during his career, I wouldn't have had in him the top 7 of the division... he took out Leben, so that's saying something, but leben wasn't exactly a well rounded fighter either... although he was exciting to watch. I'd pay $50 to watch Leben fight anybody, but wouldn't pay $5 to watch Chael fight even Petis.
true about leban,u know when u watched leban fight someone was getting ko,d.whether it was him or his opponant,leban always looked like he fought while he was on exctasy or some good acid
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and a choke over Shogun (another with a benzo/sedative problem, who hasn't been the same fighter since Pride, much less multiple knee injuries).
chael is the skinny Brock Lesnar, except Brock's fights are actually exciting.
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if brock was able to take a punch hed still b a contender, when he got hit he buckled fast ???