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Title: NPC Patriots Mens Bodybuilding - Justin Rayner vs. Jacob Wilson
Post by: Ron on July 06, 2014, 12:21:56 AM

Great evening here in Las Vegas at the NPC Patriots contest at the Riviera Hotel.   A battle for the Men's Bodybuilding Light Heavyweight title was on the line as Justin Rayner and Jacob Wilson both looked incredible, three weeks out from the NPC USA.

Only one man got the title tonight...

Here is one pic (will post others later) of the battle between these two bodybuilders

What do you think?

Title: Re: NPC Patriots Mens Bodybuilding - Justin Rayner vs. Jacob Wilson
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on July 06, 2014, 01:17:47 AM
The dude in blue trunks was shredded. Really good condition
Title: Re: NPC Patriots Mens Bodybuilding - Justin Rayner vs. Jacob Wilson
Post by: OTHstrong on July 06, 2014, 01:41:34 AM
wow what a tough call here. The guy in blue is more detailed especially in the legs but the other dudes is just thick as fuck. Have to see back shots
Title: Re: NPC Patriots Mens Bodybuilding - Justin Rayner vs. Jacob Wilson
Post by: calfzilla on July 06, 2014, 01:55:20 AM
Guy in the blue for sure.
Title: Re: NPC Patriots Mens Bodybuilding - Justin Rayner vs. Jacob Wilson
Post by: falco on July 06, 2014, 04:23:40 AM
Mass vs conditioning.
Title: Re: NPC Patriots Mens Bodybuilding - Justin Rayner vs. Jacob Wilson
Post by: Sophus on July 06, 2014, 05:11:12 AM
wow what a tough call here. The guy in blue is more detailed especially in the legs but the other dudes is just thick as fuck. Have to see back glute shots
Title: Re: NPC Patriots Mens Bodybuilding - Justin Rayner vs. Jacob Wilson
Post by: Ron on July 06, 2014, 06:55:58 AM

Back Shot

Title: Re: NPC Patriots Mens Bodybuilding - Justin Rayner vs. Jacob Wilson
Post by: njflex on July 06, 2014, 07:14:44 AM
Back Shot


both are all delts from rear..blue trunks is harder all around tho and rear hams better too,,,from front both look ready for jr nat/jr usa's level,both need more lat and lower back thickness..both are good bbers..
Title: Re: NPC Patriots Mens Bodybuilding - Justin Rayner vs. Jacob Wilson
Post by: Man of Steel on July 06, 2014, 07:48:19 AM
Maybe they don't know about triceps.
Title: Re: NPC Patriots Mens Bodybuilding - Justin Rayner vs. Jacob Wilson
Post by: OTHstrong on July 06, 2014, 10:45:48 AM
Back Shot


oh shit, blue trunks all the way, hams and glutes seal the deal
Title: Re: NPC Patriots Mens Bodybuilding - Justin Rayner vs. Jacob Wilson
Post by: Parker on July 06, 2014, 10:50:42 AM
The dude in blue trunks was shredded. Really good condition
The guy in blue is shredded from upper body to lower quads. The other guy is in condition only to his abs. His quads are not in the same condition as his upper body. Also, his quads lack good separation and detail Like two different people.
Title: Re: NPC Patriots Mens Bodybuilding - Justin Rayner vs. Jacob Wilson
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 06, 2014, 11:39:42 AM
Dude on the left.
Title: Re: NPC Patriots Mens Bodybuilding - Justin Rayner vs. Jacob Wilson
Post by: OTHstrong on July 06, 2014, 11:41:22 AM
Dude on the left.
stage left or pic left?
Title: Re: NPC Patriots Mens Bodybuilding - Justin Rayner vs. Jacob Wilson
Post by: SF1900 on July 06, 2014, 11:41:37 AM
oh shit, blue trunks all the way, hams and glutes seal the deal

Calm down. Getting all excited over their glutes.  :-X
Title: Re: NPC Patriots Mens Bodybuilding - Justin Rayner vs. Jacob Wilson
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 06, 2014, 11:47:30 AM
stage left or pic left?

Pic left. He's big and full with just right amount of conditioning.
Title: Re: NPC Patriots Mens Bodybuilding - Justin Rayner vs. Jacob Wilson
Post by: OTHstrong on July 06, 2014, 11:51:03 AM
Pic left. He's big and full with just right amount of conditioning.
there is no such a thing brother  ;)
Title: Re: NPC Patriots Mens Bodybuilding - Justin Rayner vs. Jacob Wilson
Post by: jude2 on July 06, 2014, 05:40:45 PM
The guy in the blue trunks.
Title: Re: NPC Patriots Mens Bodybuilding - Justin Rayner vs. Jacob Wilson
Post by: Lustral on July 06, 2014, 05:44:47 PM
I'd say guy on left as we see it, though blue is more shredded.
Title: Re: NPC Patriots Mens Bodybuilding - Justin Rayner vs. Jacob Wilson
Post by: AbrahamG on July 06, 2014, 09:09:52 PM
Ultimately, like most things in life, it's gonna boil down to cock size.  The head judge should reserve the right to order their trunks removed and complete the quarter turns one final time.  The only real question would be whether they should have "X" amount of seconds backstage for fluffing?
Title: Re: NPC Patriots Mens Bodybuilding - Justin Rayner vs. Jacob Wilson
Post by: OTHstrong on July 06, 2014, 10:25:35 PM
well Ron, who won?
Title: Re: NPC Patriots Mens Bodybuilding - Justin Rayner vs. Jacob Wilson
Post by: Dr.J on July 06, 2014, 10:42:55 PM
This is a no brained here....blue all the anyway every which way all day every day.
Title: Re: NPC Patriots Mens Bodybuilding - Justin Rayner vs. Jacob Wilson
Post by: kyomu on July 07, 2014, 12:34:38 AM
Judges may give it to Blue trunks.
But I vote for the other. Because Bodybuilding is the muscle.
Title: Re: NPC Patriots Mens Bodybuilding - Justin Rayner vs. Jacob Wilson
Post by: tommywishbone on July 07, 2014, 12:36:54 AM
Black trunks. Blues' fighting but he's losing.
Title: Re: NPC Patriots Mens Bodybuilding - Justin Rayner vs. Jacob Wilson
Post by: bloated on July 07, 2014, 01:41:35 AM
Great evening here in Las Vegas at the NPC Patriots contest at the Riviera Hotel.   A battle for the Men's Bodybuilding Light Heavyweight title was on the line as Justin Rayner and Jacob Wilson both looked incredible, three weeks out from the NPC USA.

Only one man got the title tonight...

Here is one pic (will post others later) of the battle between these two bodybuilders

What do you think?..what i Think? poor baldie guys of peace :-[


Title: Re: NPC Patriots Mens Bodybuilding - Justin Rayner vs. Jacob Wilson
Post by: Ron on July 07, 2014, 11:41:15 AM

Blue Trunks (Jacob) won, but it was a battle.  First time in a while we all were like - wow, both were easily the best two bodybuilders in the contest, and in the same class. 

Both will be competing at the NPC USAs, and both are going to get better in three weeks time.

This was just a warm up for them!

Title: Re: NPC Patriots Mens Bodybuilding - Justin Rayner vs. Jacob Wilson
Post by: Dr.J on July 07, 2014, 01:35:53 PM
Blue Trunks (Jacob) won, but it was a battle.  First time in a while we all were like - wow, both were easily the best two bodybuilders in the contest, and in the same class. 

Both will be competing at the NPC USAs, and both are going to get better in three weeks time.

This was just a warm up for them!



In 3 weeks the bulkier guy should get as lean as the other guy...then he will be a force to be reckon with.
Title: Re: NPC Patriots Mens Bodybuilding - Justin Rayner vs. Jacob Wilson
Post by: njflex on July 07, 2014, 01:47:30 PM
In 3 weeks the bulkier guy should get as lean as the other guy...then he will be a force to be reckon with.
he's got that dense muscle look that will look crazy dialed in a bit better.kinda your look  :-*....the other guy has crazy condition but would be suited frame wise as a heavy weight..
Title: Re: NPC Patriots Mens Bodybuilding - Justin Rayner vs. Jacob Wilson
Post by: OTHstrong on July 08, 2014, 04:38:20 PM
Judges may give it to Blue trunks.
But I vote for the other. Because Bodybuilding is the muscle.
shreddedness should always come first, it only makes sense, what is unseen counts for nothing, which means the bigger guy is not displaying his hams, glutes, lower back, obliques and striations that the other guy is, that is giving up A LOT in return for size, NO WAY.
Title: Re: NPC Patriots Mens Bodybuilding - Justin Rayner vs. Jacob Wilson
Post by: calfzilla on July 08, 2014, 07:03:47 PM
shreddedness should always come first, it only makes sense, what is unseen counts for nothing, which means the bigger guy is not displaying his hams, glutes, lower back, obliques and striations that the other guy is, that is giving up A LOT in return for size, NO WAY.

Good point. Now if they guy in the blue trunks was a shredded stick then yeah I would give it to the other guy, be he has a good amount of mass, just not as much as the less shredded but bigger guy.
Title: Re: NPC Patriots Mens Bodybuilding - Justin Rayner vs. Jacob Wilson
Post by: jude2 on July 08, 2014, 07:14:06 PM
The guy in the blue trunks.
Now I see why so many have trouble with BB contest placements.
Title: Re: NPC Patriots Mens Bodybuilding - Justin Rayner vs. Jacob Wilson
Post by: Core on July 08, 2014, 07:16:02 PM
Pic left. He's big and full with just right amount of conditioning.
I'm with coach here the other guy may be more ripped but the black trunk guy is in sick shape too, he's just thicker and bigger all around and 10x wider than heath. I give the nod to black trunks personally, although his leg conditioning isn't so hot he's just way bigger than the blue trunks guy and overall it's about the balance between size and condition. Blue trunks looks a little small. They both look great though no doubt about it.
Title: Re: NPC Patriots Mens Bodybuilding - Justin Rayner vs. Jacob Wilson
Post by: OTHstrong on July 08, 2014, 10:40:06 PM
I'm with coach here the other guy may be more ripped but the black trunk guy is in sick shape too, he's just thicker and bigger all around and 10x wider than heath. I give the nod to black trunks personally, although his leg conditioning isn't so hot he's just way bigger than the blue trunks guy and overall it's about the balance between size and condition. Blue trunks looks a little small. They both look great though no doubt about it.
I bet you in off season they are similar size, the difference in conditioning also means the guy in the blue trunks lost volume going from lean to shredded, a sacrifice needed to get those extra lines and striations. Or look at it this way had the guy in black trunks had gone the distance he would have been smaller to get there, so bottom line a lot harder to get to the stage the blue trunks displayed, hence more impressive.
Title: Re: NPC Patriots Mens Bodybuilding - Justin Rayner vs. Jacob Wilson
Post by: kyomu on July 09, 2014, 01:46:00 AM
shreddedness should always come first, it only makes sense, what is unseen counts for nothing, which means the bigger guy is not displaying his hams, glutes, lower back, obliques and striations that the other guy is, that is giving up A LOT in return for size, NO WAY.
Then my buddy Paco should have been Mr.O numerous times. And I dont agree.
Because, there were guys way more complete than Paco.

Look at the back of black trunks, way more complete than Blue.
If you have enough separation, then you must seek for the most completely developed body.
Even if you are shredded to the bone,you shouldnt beat somebody(enough separation, no need to be shredded) more complete than you.

Bodybuilding is about "How developed your entire body muscle."
Title: Re: NPC Patriots Mens Bodybuilding - Justin Rayner vs. Jacob Wilson
Post by: OTHstrong on July 09, 2014, 02:21:33 AM
Then my buddy Paco should have been Mr.O numerous times. And I dont agree.
Because, there were guys way more complete than Paco.

Look at the back of black trunks, way more complete than Blue.
If you have enough separation, then you must seek for the most completely developed body.
Even if you are shredded to the bone,you shouldnt beat somebody(enough separation, no need to be shredded) more complete than you.

Bodybuilding is about "How developed your entire body muscle."
no offence but your buddy paco has no flow
Title: Re: NPC Patriots Mens Bodybuilding - Justin Rayner vs. Jacob Wilson
Post by: njflex on July 09, 2014, 07:54:53 AM
I bet you in off season they are similar size, the difference in conditioning also means the guy in the blue trunks lost volume going from lean to shredded, a sacrifice needed to get those extra lines and striations. Or look at it this way had the guy in black trunks had gone the distance he would have been smaller to get there, so bottom line a lot harder to get to the stage the blue trunks displayed, hence more impressive.
I value your opinion greatly here,and due to you being up close and personal at many shows I know you look at all avenues when critiqueting.yes both could be same offseason size/weight but still look different even puffy /smooth,what comes down in the end is the condition 'stage day'the thicker guy holds a more dense look but condition is not on par,the blue trunk guy structurally and you could see it from the back has a longer torso of back to fill and he definitely can get bigger and be a heavyweight '10l15 lbs stage weight and same condition he would look great.
Title: Re: NPC Patriots Mens Bodybuilding - Justin Rayner vs. Jacob Wilson
Post by: OTHstrong on July 09, 2014, 03:52:06 PM
I value your opinion greatly here,and due to you being up close and personal at many shows I know you look at all avenues when critiqueting.yes both could be same offseason size/weight but still look different even puffy /smooth,what comes down in the end is the condition 'stage day'the thicker guy holds a more dense look but condition is not on par,the blue trunk guy structurally and you could see it from the back has a longer torso of back to fill and he definitely can get bigger and be a heavyweight '10l15 lbs stage weight and same condition he would look great.
Yes good point. As for stage up close, pics never ever do anyone justice when in condition, so if it is close in picture, in real life it is NOT CLOSE at all. When on a stage a guy comes out and you are like, wow this guy is shredded then the next dude comes out totally peeled and its like the first guy means nothing. Under those 1000 watt stage lights CONDITIONING rules everything.
Title: Re: NPC Patriots Mens Bodybuilding - Justin Rayner vs. Jacob Wilson
Post by: njflex on July 09, 2014, 08:30:49 PM
Yes good point. As for stage up close, pics never ever do anyone justice when in condition, so if it is close in picture, in real life it is NOT CLOSE at all. When on a stage a guy comes out and you are like, wow this guy is shredded then the next dude comes out totally peeled and its like the first guy means nothing. Under those 1000 watt stage lights CONDITIONING rules everything.
8),,correct..