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Title: 02-01-06: Court - Charges Upgrade / Stun Gun
Post by: Ron on February 01, 2006, 11:32:59 AM

Both Craig Titus, Kelly Ryan and Anthony Gross appeared live in person at the court today in the morning.

Kelly's charge was upgraded to murder. Also, kidnapping too.

The new evidence presented, which some of us already knew, was that there was a taser stun gun used on Melissa.  Then they say she was drugged and suffocated.

Title: Charges upgraded
Post by: pumpster on February 01, 2006, 12:39:28 PM
Charges upgraded against bodybuilding duo in Las Vegas slaying
 
LAS VEGAS -- Professional bodybuilders Craig Titus and Kelly Ryan were charged Wednesday with using a stun gun, drugging and suffocating their live-in personal assistant before her dead body was found in Ryan's burned-out Jaguar.

They remained shackled to other Clark County jail inmates as they sat two rows apart.
Titus' rippling arm muscles stretched the fabric of his blue jail uniform. He offered a one-word reply when he and Ryan stood and Las Vegas Justice of the Peace Joe M. Bonaventure asked each if they understood the charges.
"Absolutely," Titus said.
"Yes, sir," Ryan said.

Daskas declined Wednesday to describe a motive for the slaying. The complaint accuses Titus and Ryan of using a Taser stun gun, administering morphine or a related drug, and asphyxiating or suffocating James with a fabric or wire around her neck.

Their lawyers have maintained Titus and Ryan are innocent of the charges.
"On behalf of our client, he is 100 percent not guilty," Boston-based lawyer Steven Boozang said as he and Las Vegas lawyer Richard Schonfeld met reporters outside the courtroom.
Ryan's lawyer, Tom Pitaro, was not immediately available for comment.
Bonaventure, who had planned to consider bail for Ryan, scheduled a formal bail hearing Feb. 10, and a preliminary hearing March 29.

An alleged accomplice in the case, Anthony Gross, also appeared in court Wednesday, although charges against him remained the same.
Gross, 23, was arrested Dec. 21 and has pleaded not guilty to accessory to murder and third-degree arson. He remains under house arrest after posting $13,000 bail.
His lawyer, Louis Palazzo, noted Wednesday that Gross remained in Las Vegas and cooperated with police when he was interviewed after James' body was found.
Gross told authorities he bought a can of gasoline and followed in his pickup while Titus allegedly drove the Jaguar to a remote spot outside Las Vegas, took the gas and set the car afire. Gross told police he drove Titus back to Las Vegas, but they did not discuss what happened.
Titus and Ryan were arrested Dec. 23 in Stoughton, Mass., near Boston, and returned last week to Clark County jail.

Boozang has denied the couple fled Las Vegas to avoid charges after being interviewed by police in the case. He said they had intended to spend the Christmas holidays with friends in the Boston area, and left town before charges were filed and arrest warrants were issued Dec. 20.

A Clark County prosecutor, Robert Daskas, called it premature to say whether authorities would seek the death penalty based on upgraded charges including murder and kidnapping against Ryan, and kidnapping against Titus. Titus, 41, who made his first appearance in a Las Vegas court, previously faced murder, accessory to murder and third-degree arson charges.

Ryan, 33, had appeared Tuesday on accessory and arson charges in the slaying of 28-year-old Melissa James, a former fitness instructor who moved last year from Lambertville, N.J. to live with Titus and Ryan. Her charred body was found Dec. 14 in the trunk of Ryan's burned Jaguar off a desert highway outside Las Vegas.

Neither Titus, nor his wife, Ryan, was asked Wednesday to enter a plea to the amended complaint.
Titus won a 1996 bodybuilding championship and competed in Mr. Olympia events. Ryan is a past Fitness America and Fitness International winner and Fitness Olympia runner-up.
Title: Re: Charges upgraded
Post by: rocket on February 01, 2006, 02:02:16 PM
Hmm, finally a real development. 

So Kelly is now a full partner of this enterprise in the eyes of the law
Title: Re: 02-01-06: Titus & Ryan appearance
Post by: Lift Studios on February 01, 2006, 05:34:09 PM
Definitely interesting when you look at at today's court document. "Air Taser" gun being used as well as the added count of kidnapping...

There are links to the case document at:

http://www.titusandryan.com
Title: Current Pics From Court Today!!!
Post by: WeightPSHR on February 01, 2006, 05:34:39 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/02/01/wrestlers.charged.ap/index.html
Title: Re: Current Pics From Court Today!!!
Post by: buffalo on February 01, 2006, 05:50:00 PM
they are both so done, it's not even funny.....

premeditation, torture (use of a stun gun), asphyxiation due to strangulation
drugging in order to subdue, kidnapping


death penalty can be considered in order for these charges
Title: Re: 02-01-06: Titus & Ryan appearance
Post by: buffalo on February 01, 2006, 05:57:03 PM
anthony gross is like 100 young guys who looked up to Craig Titus and who Craig used (like he does so well).....
I am glad the kid has a good attorney who (as the attorney himself said) "I will not allow my client (Gross) to be made a scapegoat in this case"...which is another thing Craig does best
I can only imagine that as the trial comes out that C & K will try to claim that they used the stun gun, morphine, & coat hanger in self defense against Melissa......


the irony of the video clip is that Craig is still trying to play the Big Dawg In Charge by whispering to Kelly about 4 rows back in the courtroom..."Don't say nothin"

Title: Re: Current Pics From Court Today!!!
Post by: gh15 on February 01, 2006, 08:53:30 PM
i told you to never doubt me.

the murderer: death chamber (will be executed before 2020)
the ugly wife: 10-20 years

Title: Re: Current Pics From Court Today!!!
Post by: NubianMuscle on February 01, 2006, 09:15:52 PM
I didnt think it was possible, but Kelly's face looks even worse then it did the last time she was photographed.  I think she's melting.

CNN cropped the AP photo. Here is the original AP photo which shows more detail.

Kelly's face seems to have some bad skin blotches on the left side.

Click on the thumbnail below to enlarge.
Title: Re: Current Pics From Court Today!!!
Post by: gh15 on February 01, 2006, 09:22:02 PM
CNN cropped the AP photo. Here is the original AP photo which shows more detail.
Kelly's face seems to have some bad skin blotches on the left side.
Click on the thumbnail below to enlarge.

it's not only the face...it's the overall look. very skinny, very transexualy, no muscle what so ever since no hormones in the system...there you have it, the ugly wife.
Title: Re: Current Pics From Court Today!!!
Post by: bigdumbbell on February 01, 2006, 09:32:57 PM
it's not only the face...it's the overall look. very skinny, very transexualy, no muscle what so ever since no hormones in the system...there you have it, the ugly wife.
and even uglier inside
Title: Re: Current Pics From Court Today!!!
Post by: onlyme on February 01, 2006, 09:51:11 PM
charged with kidnapping too.  does this mean that Melissa was still alive when they caught the Jag on fire.  Or can you kidnap a dead person.
Title: Re: Current Pics From Court Today!!!
Post by: bigdumbbell on February 01, 2006, 10:20:54 PM
charged with kidnapping too.  does this mean that Melissa was still alive when they caught the Jag on fire.  Or can you kidnap a dead person.

it's the act of kidnapping that is illegal not where
Title: Re: Current Pics From Court Today!!!
Post by: midknight on February 02, 2006, 12:29:02 PM
it's not only the face...it's the overall look. very skinny, very transexualy, no muscle what so ever since no hormones in the system...there you have it, the ugly wife.

it's the look of death.... row
Title: Re: Current Pics From Court Today!!!
Post by: pumpster on February 02, 2006, 01:31:35 PM
FYI anyone would like like shit after this ordeal and time in jail, that hasn't occurred to you?

It's true, it's the look of death & guilt. OJ had the same look until the Dream Team took over.
Title: Re: Current Pics From Court Today!!!
Post by: WeightPSHR on February 02, 2006, 03:17:39 PM
Can you imagine what is going through both of their minds? Being apart from each other, not knowing if the other is going to roll on you....that has got to keep you up at night.  You don't know to love or hate your spouse.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/grisly-murder-sees-bodybuilder-finally-hit-headlines/2006/02/02/1138836369470.html
Title: Re: Current Pics From Court Today!!!
Post by: Norton on February 02, 2006, 03:52:43 PM
CNN cropped the AP photo. Here is the original AP photo which shows more detail.
Kelly's face seems to have some bad skin blotches on the left side.
Click on the thumbnail below to enlarge.

Look at those fish lips.

They'll never taste freedom again.
Title: Re: Current Pics From Court Today!!!
Post by: JKDMan on February 02, 2006, 04:04:03 PM
With all the obvious premeditation regarding this murder, they're both screwed. No freedom for these two for a very long time, if ever.
Title: Re: Current Pics From Court Today!!!
Post by: gh15 on February 02, 2006, 04:20:24 PM
FYI anyone would like like shit after this ordeal and time in jail, that hasn't occurred to you?
It's true, it's the look of death & guilt. OJ had the same look until the Dream Team took over.

wrong wrong wrong WRONG

simpson did not have the same look. simpson after few years in jail can still walk into  a county bodybuilding competition and win it. he is BLACK and not only black but marvelous genetics kinda black..he's a murderer too but thats a diff story. simpson did not need hormones at the dose the murderer and his ugly wife used. simpson used a lot less and grew a hell of a lot better. simpson not even once in his trial or time in jail looked skinny and had no muscle. simpson like ronnie...those guys have the hormonized look with out the hormones!!  very bad comparison. simpson might looked tired and feeling like shit but he looked jacked day in day out. genetically jacked. line backer for god sake...this is not some skinny wanna be bodybuilder who take roids...this is years and years of genetically blessed body.
Title: Re: 02-01-06: Titus & Ryan appearance
Post by: Junior III on February 02, 2006, 04:25:41 PM
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anthony gross is like 100 young guys who looked up to Craig Titus and who Craig used (like he does so well).....I am glad the kid has a good attorney who (as the attorney himself said) "I will not allow my client (Gross) to be made a scapegoat in this case"...
Amen to that!  Craig got his flunkie (Gross) to help dispose of another of CT's flunkies (Melissa James).  What the hell was Gross thinking?  If they (CT/KR) could do it to her (MJ), they (CT /KR) could do it to him (Gross), too.
Title: Re: Current Pics From Court Today!!!
Post by: New York on February 02, 2006, 05:33:15 PM
Look at those fish lips.
They'll never taste freedom again.
Well.. you can rest assured that they'll be tasting something in the joint!
Title: Craig looks good!
Post by: badamo on February 02, 2006, 05:39:07 PM
This is the best he has looked since he lost the 1995 USA to Phil Hernon.
Title: Re: Charges upgraded
Post by: newmom on February 02, 2006, 06:05:31 PM
im sure ill get thumped for this..but honestly pumpster I thought she didnt look bad considering...
Title: Re: Craig looks good!
Post by: x ADRENALINE x on February 02, 2006, 06:18:35 PM
ya right he looks worn out and very scared.
Title: Re: Craig looks good!
Post by: gh15 on February 02, 2006, 06:25:24 PM
This is the best he has looked since he lost the 1995 USA to Phil Hernon.
how do you establish that the murderer looks good? i see a vein in the arm on a 5'8 195 pounder at around 9-10%. the guard next to him looks way bigger and not so far behind bodyfat wise. the murderer hasnt been in prison more than a month or 2.. guess going down from 21 inch arms to 19 inch arms super fast is good. dont forget what he had on him before! you are talkin about pro bodybuilder here that looks right now like a regular guy that works out with somewhat big arms. wait another 12 months and see what happens.
Title: Re: Charges upgraded
Post by: gh15 on February 02, 2006, 06:50:37 PM
im sure ill get thumped for this..but honestly pumpster I thought she didnt look bad considering...

100 pounds of skin and bones would probably look decent if the ugly wife had face to go with it. the ugly wife looks sickly skinny (similat to cancer pacient that is about to pass away) and her face is horrible; from the squared jaw to the twisted nose to the disgusting lips. body you can change if you know the right tricks..face is yours to keep! horrible
Title: Re: Charges upgraded
Post by: hmmrgrrrl on February 02, 2006, 07:00:37 PM
Considering what she had supposedly put herself through pre-arrest and the burdensome road she has been on since the arrest, I think she looks remarkably well.  Remember; no makeup, no blow-dryer, no skincare products, no nutritious foods,  etc.  I surmise her self-esteem is suffering as well.  
Title: Re: Craig looks good!
Post by: hmmrgrrrl on February 02, 2006, 07:07:27 PM
To the general public who knows nothing about bodybuilding, Craig looked quite impressive in the court room.  It's not every day that you see a muscular, vascular, and clean shaven inmate appearing before the judge!
Title: Re: Craig looks good!
Post by: gh15 on February 02, 2006, 08:00:06 PM
To the general public who knows nothing about bodybuilding, Craig looked quite impressive in the court room.  It's not every day that you see a muscular, vascular, and clean shaven inmate appearing before the judge!

the murderer DOES NOT look impressive nor does he look muscular. he does look clean shaven and he does seem to have a vein or 2 in the 18-19 inch arms. nothing to write home about.
Title: Re: Charges upgraded
Post by: gh15 on February 02, 2006, 08:07:19 PM
Considering what she had supposedly put herself through pre-arrest and the burdensome road she has been on since the arrest, I think she looks remarkably well.  Remember; no makeup, no blow-dryer, no skincare products, no nutritious foods,  etc.  I surmise her self-esteem is suffering as well.  


the ugly wife does not look well nor does she look normal. she looks like  a 45 year old prostitute that been on hard narcotics for quite some time. no make up will help face like this, her hair is ruined from years over years of using primo and winstrol at high doses, and her wrinkles are shining from a distance. i also start suspecting she has the hiv virus. the ugly wife looks HORRIFIC and scared to death!
Title: Re: Charges upgraded
Post by: fitfan8869 on February 02, 2006, 08:10:45 PM
100 pounds of skin and bones would probably look decent if the ugly wife had face to go with it. the ugly wife looks sickly skinny (similat to cancer pacient that is about to pass away) and her face is horrible; from the squared jaw to the twisted nose to the disgusting lips. body you can change if you know the right tricks..face is yours to keep! horrible

I agree with you.  Without all her makeup, you can really get a feel for how much plastic surgery she has had.  It is truely unbelievable.  It does not even look like the Kelly that was on stage at last years Arnold Classic.  I bet if you simply showed that picture to people they would not guess it is her. 
Title: Re: Craig looks good!
Post by: buffalo on February 02, 2006, 09:10:45 PM
he looks like a hobo meth head to me, but I bet if you asked Craig if he looked good he would say "ABSOLUTELY"
Title: Re: Craig looks good!
Post by: Earl1972 on February 02, 2006, 10:02:09 PM
he does look clean shaven and he does seem to have a vein or 2 in the 18-19 inch arms. nothing to write home about.

that's about 6 inches more than the average man's arm

E
Title: Re: Craig looks good!
Post by: gh15 on February 02, 2006, 10:26:53 PM
that's about 6 inches more than the average man's arm
E

thats 18-19 inches which is about 3-4 inches bigger than the average man arm. it is something to write home about going into your first competition, but for a pro bodybuilder under atleast 20 years of HEAVY hormone use it is nothing to write home about. very average look. thick average guy that is deflating
Title: Re: 02-01-06: Court - Charges Upgrade / Stun Gun
Post by: sonofa__dick on February 03, 2006, 02:48:19 AM
gh15, did titus mouthfuck your girlfriend or what? youre like a bitter old man
Title: Re: Charges upgraded
Post by: bigdumbbell on February 03, 2006, 04:18:00 AM
im sure ill get thumped for this..but honestly pumpster I thought she didnt look bad considering...
who cares how good trashy people look

besides, they look like carnival workers now    lol

2 for the sideshow?
Title: Re: 02-01-06: Court - Charges Upgrade / Stun Gun
Post by: TrophyWife on February 03, 2006, 04:41:07 AM
Looks like Kelly has a little gray showing on those roots..........
Title: Re: 02-01-06: Court - Charges Upgrade / Stun Gun
Post by: LLES on February 03, 2006, 08:12:01 AM
gh15, did titus mouthfuck your girlfriend or what? youre like a bitter old man






I was thinking the same thing. Either that or he's pissed that Craig & Kelly woudn't swing with him.
Title: Re: 02-01-06: Court - Charges Upgrade / Stun Gun
Post by: Razzor on February 03, 2006, 10:04:53 PM
probably not morphine, but valium, both him and Matt, preferred to shoot that up....
Title: Re: 02-01-06: Court - Charges Upgrade / Stun Gun
Post by: gh15 on February 03, 2006, 10:36:00 PM
gh15, did titus mouthfuck your girlfriend or what? youre like a bitter old man

my wife wouldnt fuck the murderer he's a)got no money  b)has no brain and c) got no muscle as of today

but! if somone would gang bang the murderer id be willing to join in with out a doubt. i would be a homo for a day. he needs to be happy his life will last till 2020 cuz we would have finished his sorry little ass way before. he's quite lucky!
Title: Re: 02-01-06: Court - Charges Upgrade / Stun Gun
Post by: pumpster on February 03, 2006, 11:36:55 PM
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wrong wrong wrong WRONG
simpson did not have the same look. simpson after few years in jail can still walk into  a county bodybuilding competition and win it.
You're way off on a tangent. I was referring to his facial expression when first pleading, in relation to her pic. Much the same lifeless expression of resignment seen with anyone in court, particularly when guilty. No one is gonna look good in this context.

Nothing to do with physique.
Title: Re: 02-01-06: Court - Charges Upgrade / Stun Gun
Post by: bigdumbbell on February 04, 2006, 05:05:44 AM
You're way off on a tangent. I was referring to his facial expression when first pleading, in relation to her pic. Much the same lifeless expression of resignment seen with anyone in court, particularly when guilty. No one is gonna look good in this context.
Nothing to do with physique.

his murmur has more to do with his case than hers

she acts like she's still brainwashed
Title: Re: Current Pics From Court Today!!!
Post by: gh15 on February 05, 2006, 02:52:39 AM
So your saying simpson wasn't a roided up midget?

ofcourse he used. dianabol, var, primo good stuff but not at the doses of that murderer maniac and his ugly wife. you ever seen it...when you get to a gym with your 18-19 inch arm after injecting so much hormones into your body and then  this black bro next to you that never touched hormones compare his arms to yours and they are both same size?...very common sight, it's called black genetics! i have seen black guy at 150 pounds looking bigger than 200 pound guys. genetics! but  yes simpson juiced in some form or another like any other athlete in usa.
Title: Re: 02-01-06: Court - Charges Upgrade / Stun Gun
Post by: pumpster on February 05, 2006, 08:08:36 AM
You have no idea whether he used anything. While he was with the 49ers I asked him; he said he barely even lifted weights. Don't know if that was true, but he wasn't small at 210, 6'1", in shape.

This pic says a lot..
Title: Re: 02-01-06: Court - Charges Upgrade / Stun Gun
Post by: Junior III on February 08, 2006, 08:18:47 AM
You have no idea whether he used anything.
And you have no idea either, unless you've been to his home and checked through his shit to make sure there were no syringes, vials, pills, etc.

How many guys/gals that use lie?
Title: Re: 02-01-06: Court - Charges Upgrade / Stun Gun
Post by: tommywishbone on February 08, 2006, 10:00:26 AM
The lady seated in the above photo, looks exactly like Kelly will look in 10 years. Weird.
Title: Re: 02-01-06: Court - Charges Upgrade / Stun Gun
Post by: pumpster on February 08, 2006, 10:16:39 AM
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And you have no idea either, unless you've been to his home and checked through his shit to make sure there were no syringes, vials, pills, etc.
That smells like GED, the logic of someone who didn't finish high school. I never said I knew, ony recounted what I'd been told. Other than that, all you can do is go with probabilities that aren't a sure thing. Unlike you, I don't presume in the absence of proof.
Title: Re: 02-01-06: Court - Charges Upgrade / Stun Gun
Post by: Junior III on February 08, 2006, 11:30:19 AM
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I never said I knew, ony recounted what I'd been told.
If you re-read my post, you'll see that all I was saying is that:

1. Obviously nobody (i.e. neither you nor me, nor anyone) knows if someone is using for sure.....

2. Drug users and/or BBs often LIE when asked about DRUG USE.

No need for insults.
Title: Re: 02-01-06: Court - Charges Upgrade / Stun Gun
Post by: pumpster on February 08, 2006, 11:44:40 AM
I already read your angry misinterpretations.
Some are naturals, that's my guess.
Title: Re: 02-01-06: Court - Charges Upgrade / Stun Gun
Post by: shockandawe on February 08, 2006, 01:29:24 PM
You know the photo of Craig looking back at Kelly that is on Pumpster's post on the first page?? (sorry, my computer isn't attaching it in a "quote" mode)
Check out the chick sitting down in the prison line in court. She's just a little more haggard than Kelly, and no money for plastic surgery either... and they could be sisters! SAD SAD SAD SAD SAD! KR looks like a common trailer court drug user now. She used to be so perky and cute and had actual fire in her eyes before Craig. God, what must her parents be thinking?
(KR's mom: "Where's my bottle of sleeping pills so I can take an overdose and not have to see my completely ruined daughter - whom I warned about Craig back in 1999 - looking like death?")  SADto the tenth power.  :'(
Title: Re: 02-01-06: Court - Charges Upgrade / Stun Gun
Post by: pumpster on February 09, 2006, 05:51:37 AM
 A former Lambertville woman was immobilized with a stun gun, drugged and suffocated before her body was found in the trunk of a burning Jaguar near Las Vegas, and now the husband-and-wife bodybuilders accused of her murder could both face the death penalty since charges against them have been upgraded, according to Las Vegas authorities.
   
   The use of a deadly weapon could result in a doubling of whatever sentence is ultimately handed down, Clark County Public Information Officer Michael Sommermeyer said Feb. 2. If the suspects are found guilty and sentenced to life, they would face two life terms.
   Prosecutor Robert Daskas has not determined yet whether to seek the death penalty, according to Mr. Sommermeyer.

   The criminal complaint alleges the pair of professional bodybuilders killed Miss James, their live-in personal aide, "by applying an 'Air Taser' gun and/or asphyxiating and/or suffocating and/or administering morphine and/or a related drug."

   The accused were being held in the Clark County Detention Center in downtown Las Vegas. A bail hearing is scheduled for tomorrow (Feb. 10). A preliminary hearing is scheduled for March 29.

   Mr. Titus told investigators he and Miss James had had an affair. Ms. Ryan claimed Miss James embezzled funds and also took her red 2003 Jaguar without permission although no complaints were filed with police.

   Miss James had been scheduled to return to New Jersey Dec. 14 to visit her mother, Maura James of West Amwell, for Christmas. She never arrived. Instead, police found her body that morning stuffed in the trunk of Ms. Ryan's Jaguar on the side of a remote highway. A cloth bound her neck, and duct tape was wrapped around her face. Miss James moved to Las Vegas last year to work for the couple.

   The couple's status among the elite of the bodybuilding world has drawn much media attention. Following the case are the Associated Press, Court TV, Fox News, "CBS 48 Hours" and "Dateline NBC." The victim's mother appeared on Court TV's "Catherine Crier Live" last week.
   
Title: Re: 02-01-06: Court - Charges Upgrade / Stun Gun
Post by: midknight on February 09, 2006, 09:19:07 AM
I can't get over how stupid, the "don't say nothin" comment was made in front of lawyers, cameras and judge etc... Talk about self incriminating. Titus defense lawyers should just shut him up if they want any kind of fair trail.  :P
Title: Re: 02-01-06: Court - Charges Upgrade / Stun Gun
Post by: buffalo on February 09, 2006, 03:24:12 PM
Craig's ARROGANCE  is waaaaaay bigger than his pea-brain
Title: Re: Charges upgraded
Post by: ARMZ on February 09, 2006, 04:12:26 PM
100 pounds of skin and bones would probably look decent if the ugly wife had face to go with it. the ugly wife looks sickly skinny (similat to cancer pacient that is about to pass away) and her face is horrible; from the squared jaw to the twisted nose to the disgusting lips. body you can change if you know the right tricks..face is yours to keep! horrible


Yeah, but at least her nails look good!
Title: Re: 02-01-06: Court - Charges Upgrade / Stun Gun
Post by: onlyme on February 27, 2006, 12:55:04 AM
Interesting

http://videos.caught-on-video.com/search/vs/0/513DC6A2-FF6A-40F9-9893-589AC926FCCE.htm
Title: Re: 02-01-06: Court - Charges Upgrade / Stun Gun
Post by: buffalo on February 27, 2006, 06:26:08 AM
yeah...very interesting.  Hence the multiple taser shots within a few minutes...she kept getting up and then maybe on the last shot...Craig finally just strangled her.  They may have thought hotting her once or twice would have killed her, but it didn't