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Title: Obama: FLY Illegals Straight to U.S., So They Don’t Have to Cross Border
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 27, 2014, 12:32:28 PM
Change we can believe in and all that....

UNREAL: Obama Wants to FLY Illegals Straight to US… So They Don’t Have to Cross Border

The New York Times is reporting an Obama administration plan that would cut out the smugglers and coyotes as the middle men of the illegal immigration business, and take over operations themselves.  The plan would involve allowing Central Americans to apply for refugee status and then fly them directly to the United States, bypassing the the dangerous trip through Mexico and the border altogether.

Read more: http://conservativetribune.com/obama-to-fly-illegals-to-us-skip-crossing-border/
Title: Re: Obama: FLY Illegals Straight to U.S., So They Don’t Have to Cross Border
Post by: Kazan on July 27, 2014, 12:51:52 PM
This is just a brilliant plan, really wish I would have voted for him now  ::)
Title: Re: Obama: FLY Illegals Straight to U.S., So They Don’t Have to Cross Border
Post by: 240 is Back on July 27, 2014, 01:23:43 PM
Hey, if they travel in the desert, and die of heat - their deaths are on his hands. 

Which uber-liberal said that? 
Title: Re: Obama: FLY Illegals Straight to U.S., So They Don’t Have to Cross Border
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 27, 2014, 01:34:53 PM
He is a national threat
Title: Re: Obama: FLY Illegals Straight to U.S., So They Don’t Have to Cross Border
Post by: Kazan on July 27, 2014, 02:15:23 PM
Hey, if they travel in the desert, and die of heat - their deaths are on his hands. 

Which uber-liberal said that? 

The simple fact that he is inviting them in, well if they die in the desert, he sent to invitation. Personally I don't care if they die in the desert or the shit hole country they are leaving. There are legal means to enter this country.....

I all for the Doomsday wall

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Title: Re: Obama: FLY Illegals Straight to U.S., So They Don’t Have to Cross Border
Post by: headhuntersix on July 27, 2014, 02:50:32 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Obama: FLY Illegals Straight to U.S., So They Don’t Have to Cross Border
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 27, 2014, 02:53:50 PM
;D

haha... That's the point I'm at. Can't make sense of anything. All I can do is laugh at the insanity.  ;D
Title: Re: Obama: FLY Illegals Straight to U.S., So They Don’t Have to Cross Border
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on July 28, 2014, 07:55:15 AM
He is a national threat
Title: Re: Obama: FLY Illegals Straight to U.S., So They Don’t Have to Cross Border
Post by: avxo on July 29, 2014, 12:24:35 AM
The title of this post sure demands your attention. And it's not surprising; short, sweet and shocking nuggets like that "sell". After all, who's gonna bother reading the actual article? Most won't, and of those that do, few wiill read more than a few sentences. The folks at the Conservative Tribute know this, which is why their articles are structured and written as they are. Which is why I wasn't that surprised when the post here opened with a statement that this was "an Obama administration plan that would cut out the smugglers and coyotes as the middle men of the illegal immigration business, and take over operations themselves."

Strong words...

The Conservative Tribune post mentioned that their commentary was in response to reporting by the New York Times and handily provided a link to said reporting. When I read someone's commentary in response to an article - especially someone who has a clear partisan bias - I prefer to not just take their word that they are describing the article they are commenting on accurately or objectively. Also, since they provided me with a link, it'd be impolite to not actually click it. So off I went to read the New York Times piece.

Not surprisingly, the statements made by the Conservative Tribute were not accurately describing the issue. They didn't quite distort things, but they manipulated it just enough as to make what the NYT reported and what they wrote two very different things. How so?

First, remember that the Conservative Tribute said that it was commenting on an "an Obama administration plan that would cut out the smugglers and coyotes as the middle men of the illegal immigration business, and take over operations themselves." Or where they?

The NYT article was about a plan that, if approved, "would direct the government to screen thousands of children and youths in Honduras to see if they can enter the United States as refugees or on emergency humanitarian grounds." In other words, this plan involves checking whether Hondurans likely to make the trip to attempt to enter the country illegally actually qualify to enter the coutry legally instead. So, the outrage here is that the Administration appears to want to screen these people before they embark on the trip and attempt to enter into the country without going through immigration.

This is something very different than the story the Conservative Tribute headline sold...

Let's be clear. I don't particularly like this plan; I think that it's misguided and does little to help address the very real problem of illegal immigration. Nor am I posting to voice my support of said plan or to defend it or the Administration.

I am, however, posting to suggest that if you are going to be outraged about something, then you may not want to rely on what partisan hacks write since their goal is to agitate the mindless partisan lackeys that pay them any attention rather than to inform you of facts and let you form an opinion on the merits of an issue.
Title: Re: Obama: FLY Illegals Straight to U.S., So They Don’t Have to Cross Border
Post by: whork on July 29, 2014, 03:09:46 AM
Change we can believe in and all that....

UNREAL: Obama Wants to FLY Illegals Straight to US… So They Don’t Have to Cross Border

The New York Times is reporting an Obama administration plan that would cut out the smugglers and coyotes as the middle men of the illegal immigration business, and take over operations themselves.  The plan would involve allowing Central Americans to apply for refugee status and then fly them directly to the United States, bypassing the the dangerous trip through Mexico and the border altogether.

Read more: http://conservativetribune.com/obama-to-fly-illegals-to-us-skip-crossing-border/

Can you read Roger?
Title: Re: Obama: FLY Illegals Straight to U.S., So They Don’t Have to Cross Border
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 30, 2014, 07:58:16 AM
I think Obama is creating his own laws for immigration so he doesn't get deported back to Kenya. Haha.
Title: Re: Obama: FLY Illegals Straight to U.S., So They Don’t Have to Cross Border
Post by: avxo on July 30, 2014, 09:49:49 AM
I think Obama is creating his own laws for immigration so he doesn't get deported back to Kenya. Haha.

Careful. If you start thinking all of a sudden you may sprain something. You need to do a warm-up first and take it slow.
Title: Re: Obama: FLY Illegals Straight to U.S., So They Don’t Have to Cross Border
Post by: 240 is Back on July 30, 2014, 11:36:07 AM
I think Obama is creating his own laws for immigration so he doesn't get deported back to Kenya. Haha.

careful... repubs might hear obama is an illegal and be forced to hide from impeaching him.

wussies!
Title: Re: Obama: FLY Illegals Straight to U.S., So They Don’t Have to Cross Border
Post by: James28 on July 30, 2014, 12:17:29 PM
Guess now's my time if I ever had designs on living in America. My education,  money, ability to support myself, employability,  ability to buy my own healthcare plans, being a native English speaker, lack of any criminal record and willingness to work were always counting against me.  :-\
Title: Re: Obama: FLY Illegals Straight to U.S., So They Don’t Have to Cross Border
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 30, 2014, 01:38:30 PM
Can you read Roger?

Just a little bit better than Coach.  :D