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Title: Lower Testosterone Levels Helped in the Development of Civilization
Post by: wolfrittner on August 02, 2014, 03:33:33 AM
http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/8362/20140802/lower-testosterone-levels-helped-develop-civilization.htm
Drop in testosterone levels accelerated human prosperity, a new study suggests.
It might be a man's world, but femininity laid the foundation for modern civilization, a new study has found. 
How about that?
Title: Re: Lower Testosterone Levels Helped in the Development of Civilization
Post by: Frank Clairmonte on August 02, 2014, 03:39:31 AM
 ::)
Title: Re: Lower Testosterone Levels Helped in the Development of Civilization
Post by: Mr Anabolic on August 02, 2014, 05:00:12 AM
This has validity.  Less androgens = less primitive emotions = critical thinking. 

Title: Re: Lower Testosterone Levels Helped in the Development of Civilization
Post by: BigRo on August 02, 2014, 05:02:20 AM
Yeah makes sense really however much alpha males want to feel like testosterone is god.
Title: Re: Lower Testosterone Levels Helped in the Development of Civilization
Post by: wolfrittner on August 02, 2014, 05:48:28 AM
Basically once the testosterone was lowered humans started to think with there brains not with der dicks! (as much) :D
Title: Re: Lower Testosterone Levels Helped in the Development of Civilization
Post by: Rascal full on August 02, 2014, 06:11:48 AM
Not thinking about sex 24 hours a day frees up important time to invent stuff and move society forward. If I take too much test all I want to do is party and chat up women.

Business suffers.
Title: Re: Lower Testosterone Levels Helped in the Development of Civilization
Post by: Simple Simon on August 02, 2014, 06:13:30 AM
Christian Bale said "the bigger my muscles got the dumber I became."
Title: Re: Lower Testosterone Levels Helped in the Development of Civilization
Post by: the trainer on August 02, 2014, 06:14:41 AM
So what you guys are saying is that you need to look like this in order to be  a smart thinker.

(http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2011/01/19/31499512/progresspic/1PVqyPmGqh4HPqlUwCHpNZayXEDH1598.jpeg)
Title: Re: Lower Testosterone Levels Helped in the Development of Civilization
Post by: scottt on August 02, 2014, 06:45:33 AM
Bullshit
Title: Re: Lower Testosterone Levels Helped in the Development of Civilization
Post by: deceiver on August 02, 2014, 06:45:37 AM
So what you guys are saying is that you need to look like this in order to be  a smart thinker.

(http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2011/01/19/31499512/progresspic/1PVqyPmGqh4HPqlUwCHpNZayXEDH1598.jpeg)

No, you just need to be born with it. No way around it.

Also implication that low testosterone is associated with higher IQ is pretty far fetched. Men are smarter than women. On average we may be equal but men vary more than women in terms of IQ.
Title: Re: Lower Testosterone Levels Helped in the Development of Civilization
Post by: falco on August 02, 2014, 09:39:37 AM
So what you guys are saying is that you need to look like this in order to be  a smart thinker.

(http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2011/01/19/31499512/progresspic/1PVqyPmGqh4HPqlUwCHpNZayXEDH1598.jpeg)

The guy in the pic probably has supraphisiologic levels of test due to the presence of ginecomastya.
Title: Re: Lower Testosterone Levels Helped in the Development of Civilization
Post by: 240 is Back on August 02, 2014, 09:52:14 AM
So what you guys are saying is that you need to look like this in order to be  a smart thinker.

(http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2011/01/19/31499512/progresspic/1PVqyPmGqh4HPqlUwCHpNZayXEDH1598.jpeg)

steroids aren't for me... but if I had that kinda breast fat, I'd be seeing the doc lol.
Title: Re: Lower Testosterone Levels Helped in the Development of Civilization
Post by: SF1900 on August 02, 2014, 10:14:39 AM
I always love peoples reactions to science.

When the data fits with their already preconceived notions, ideals, beliefs or values, then the data is "spot on."

When the data conflicts with their already preconceived notions, ideals, beliefs or values, then the data is "bullshit," "ridiculous," and "science does not know anything."

 ::) ::)

I am not saying it necessarily applies to this subject, but just in general.

Title: Re: Lower Testosterone Levels Helped in the Development of Civilization
Post by: noc on August 02, 2014, 10:30:16 AM
You must be at the forefront then 'wolfrittner' you boring kraut  ;D
Title: Re: Lower Testosterone Levels Helped in the Development of Civilization
Post by: Hulkotron on August 02, 2014, 11:11:01 AM
I always love peoples reactions to science.

When the data fits with their already preconceived notions, ideals, beliefs or values, then the data is "spot on."

When the data conflicts with their already preconceived notions, ideals, beliefs or values, then the data is "bullshit," "ridiculous," and "science does not know anything."

 ::) ::)

I am not saying it necessarily applies to this subject, but just in general.



Here is a tangentially related anecdote to explain why your data are wrong.

 :D
Title: Re: Lower Testosterone Levels Helped in the Development of Civilization
Post by: Natural Man on August 02, 2014, 11:22:39 AM
civilizations exist to disapear...
Title: Re: Lower Testosterone Levels Helped in the Development of Civilization
Post by: MikMaq on August 02, 2014, 02:27:42 PM
If test is associated with manlyness your a moron.

A true alpha male is based on the idea of more empathetic understanding of people. An alpha knows how to read other people, and push them just enough to manipulate the situation into them being the lead.

The fact that our ability for logic and reason increased as test levels decreased is another obvious side of it.

Woman are horrid for logic and reasoning abilities.
Title: Re: Lower Testosterone Levels Helped in the Development of Civilization
Post by: Simple Simon on August 02, 2014, 02:30:33 PM
If test is associated with manlyness your a moron.

A true alpha male is based on the idea of more empathetic understanding of people. An alpha knows how to read other people, and push them just enough to manipulate the situation into them being the lead.

The fact that our ability for logic and reason increased as test levels decreased is another obvious side of it.

Woman are horrid for logic and reasoning abilities.

What if they have high test?
Title: Re: Lower Testosterone Levels Helped in the Development of Civilization
Post by: Natural Man on August 02, 2014, 02:32:21 PM
peace is only preparation of the next war, a never ending war between all living things.
Title: Re: Lower Testosterone Levels Helped in the Development of Civilization
Post by: MikMaq on August 02, 2014, 02:33:24 PM
What if they have high test?
it has nothing to do with test levels.
 
the notion that high test levels are good is utter nonsense for the brain.

Test lowers anxiety, and that alone is something not good for higher intelligence.

Womans brains are wired completely differently from mens, if this isnt obvious your likely not aware of the biological differences from one person to another.
Title: Re: Lower Testosterone Levels Helped in the Development of Civilization
Post by: Simple Simon on August 02, 2014, 02:35:39 PM
it has nothing to do with test levels.
 
the notion that high test levels are good is utter nonsense for the brain.

Test lowers anxiety, and that alone is something not good for higher intelligence.

Womans brains are wired completely differently from mens, if this isnt obvious your likely not aware of the biological differences from one person to another.
Fuckin hell, chill out, I wasnt serious.
Title: Re: Lower Testosterone Levels Helped in the Development of Civilization
Post by: _aj_ on August 02, 2014, 04:12:05 PM
Just more PC bullshit from the matriarchy designed to pave the way for a feminized world.

Fact, testosterone and MEN brought civilization and everything from fire all the way to computers. Women gave us: crying, PMS, purse-fights, and lastly, feminized men, the worst thing imaginable.
Title: Re: Lower Testosterone Levels Helped in the Development of Civilization
Post by: Natural Man on August 02, 2014, 04:13:48 PM
Just more PC bullshit from the matriarchy designed to pave the way for a feminized world.

Fact, testosterone and MEN brought civilization and everything from fire all the way to computers. Women gave us: crying, PMS, purse-fights, and lastly, feminized men, the worst thing imaginable.
women lead the world, like it or not, one day you ll understand when you grow up.
Title: Re: Lower Testosterone Levels Helped in the Development of Civilization
Post by: MikMaq on August 02, 2014, 04:47:18 PM
Just more PC bullshit from the matriarchy designed to pave the way for a feminized world.

Fact, testosterone and MEN brought civilization and everything from fire all the way to computers. Women gave us: crying, PMS, purse-fights, and lastly, feminized men, the worst thing imaginable.
Connecting testosterone to masculinity is the type of crap bitches get on with.

Female bodybuilders have tests level way higher than a mans, and they aint  the  least bit masculine in their way of thinking.
Title: Re: Lower Testosterone Levels Helped in the Development of Civilization
Post by: Shockwave on August 02, 2014, 07:02:58 PM
women lead the world, like it or not, one day you ll understand when you grow up.
wat
Title: Re: Lower Testosterone Levels Helped in the Development of Civilization
Post by: Bertha Butt on August 02, 2014, 10:37:11 PM
Men are smarter than women. On average we may be equal but men vary more than women in terms of IQ.

That's a contradiction... I agree men vary more. So yes, some are smarter than most women. But that also implies some men are far more stupid than most women.
 :D
Title: Re: Lower Testosterone Levels Helped in the Development of Civilization
Post by: Bertha Butt on August 02, 2014, 10:46:16 PM
A true alpha male is based on the idea of more empathetic understanding of people. An alpha knows how to read other people, and push them just enough to manipulate the situation into them being the lead.

Oh, please! A true alpha that needs manipulation of others so he can be alpha/leader?  ::)

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The fact that our ability for logic and reason increased as test levels decreased is another obvious side of it.

Woman are horrid for logic and reasoning abilities.

Doesn't sound very logic... Women should be better at logic and reasoning because they usually have lower test levels, but since the are women they are not better at it.  ???

Must be because I'm female, because I fail to see the logic here.  ;D
Title: Re: Lower Testosterone Levels Helped in the Development of Civilization
Post by: Papper on August 02, 2014, 10:51:56 PM
steroids aren't for me... but if I had that kinda breast fat, I'd be seeing the doc lol.

This.. I'd turn to anything to get rid of that mirror image
Title: Re: Lower Testosterone Levels Helped in the Development of Civilization
Post by: Rami on August 02, 2014, 11:02:50 PM
Civilization is a curse. It's not like it was something positive. Merely a dysfunctioning sidestep and a waste of time, at best.
Title: Re: Lower Testosterone Levels Helped in the Development of Civilization
Post by: honest on August 02, 2014, 11:37:51 PM
No doubt, the weak amongst us have created a playing field where the inferior can survive better, but the dragon slaying alphas have also adapted and still stalk their prey just in boardrooms now other than in the wild, the values of higher natural testosterone combined with intelligence still command the same respect that they did hundreds of years ago, they have just adapted to life.
Title: Re: Lower Testosterone Levels Helped in the Development of Civilization
Post by: deceiver on August 03, 2014, 02:09:59 AM
That's a contradiction... I agree men vary more. So yes, some are smarter than most women. But that also implies some men are far more stupid than most women.
 :D

Yes, it does mean so. It depends on a metric you choose to compare the genders. I explained pretty clearly that I meant which gender has bigger "max" of intelligence.
Title: Re: Lower Testosterone Levels Helped in the Development of Civilization
Post by: MAXX on August 03, 2014, 02:13:05 AM
Oh, please! A true alpha that needs manipulation of others so he can be alpha/leader?  ::)

Doesn't sound very logic... Women should be better at logic and reasoning because they usually have lower test levels, but since the are women they are not better at it.  ???

Must be because I'm female, because I fail to see the logic here.  ;D
estrogen prevents females to think as logically as men.

high estrogen = emotional thinking

but it's also true that women has smaller brains then men on average. just how it is.
Title: Re: Lower Testosterone Levels Helped in the Development of Civilization
Post by: Tapeworm on August 03, 2014, 06:34:14 AM
Zenobia.  Marie Curie.  Clara Barton.  Um, Marie Curie.
Title: Re: Lower Testosterone Levels Helped in the Development of Civilization
Post by: Griffith on August 03, 2014, 06:50:50 AM
women lead the world, like it or not, one day you ll understand when you grow up.

What makes you say that?

Look at most businesses and governments across the world and the percentage ratio of men to women.

Also, look at the greatest inventions, top scientists, innovators etc.
Title: Re: Lower Testosterone Levels Helped in the Development of Civilization
Post by: Archer77 on August 03, 2014, 11:13:42 AM
This makes perfect sense.   Less testosterone means less aggression, more sociability and greater impulse control.