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House panel: No administration wrongdoing in Benghazi attack
Source: San Francisco Gate
The House Intelligence Committee, led by Republicans, has concluded that there was no deliberate wrongdoing by the Obama administration in the 2012 attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, that killed Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans, said Rep. Mike Thompson of St. Helena, the second-ranking Democrat on the committee.
Among the Intelligence Committee's findings, according to Thompson:
-- Intelligence agencies were "warned about an increased threat environment, but did not have specific tactical warning of an attack before it happened."
-- "A mixed group of individuals, including those associated with al Qaeda, (Moammar) Khadafy loyalists and other Libyan militias, participated in the attack."
-- "There was no 'stand-down order' given to American personnel attempting to offer assistance that evening, no illegal activity or illegal arms transfers occurring by U.S. personnel in Benghazi, and no American was left behind."
-- The administration's process for developing "talking points" was "flawed, but the talking points reflected the conflicting intelligence assessments in the days immediately following the crisis."
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/House-panel-No-administration-wrongdoing-in-5663509.php?cmpid=twitter
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Yeah if there was illegal activity like arms transfers the reps are going to say there was. The fuckers are probably neck deep in this shit, and are covering ass.
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Yeah if there was illegal activity like arms transfers the reps are going to say there was. The fuckers are probably neck deep in this shit, and are covering ass.
So the attack Obama like crazy then agree with him and remove any wrong-doing? Did you ever think it was just a political stunt? like many had suggested? similar to this execeutive order bullshit. The IRS bullshit, the fucking sequester etc etc.
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So the attack Obama like crazy then agree with him and remove any wrong-doing? Did you ever think it was just a political stunt? like many had suggested? similar to this execeutive order bullshit. The IRS bullshit, the fucking sequester etc etc.
They are 2 sides of the same coin, to pretend they had no idea what was going on is ridiculous.
As far as executive orders are concerned, there are very specific restrictions in the constitution, that curtail them. The executive order has been abused for years and it needs to stop.
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They are 2 sides of the same coin, to pretend they had no idea what was going on is ridiculous.
As far as executive orders are concerned, there are very specific restrictions in the constitution, that curtail them. The executive order has been abused for years and it needs to stop.
Agreed.
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Bear in mind...this isn't he final report...it's a Democrat discussing what the final report could contain
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Bear in mind...this isn't he final report...it's a Democrat discussing what the final report could contain
Sure, but anyone who looked at the situation knew this would be the outcome.I would bet my life there will be nothing come of it.
Imagine if this shit happened everytime an embassy was attacked.
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So - did I miss something? The terrorists just took over Benghazi - was another youtube video released or something>?
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So - did I miss something? >?
yes, you always do. butt, that is one of the things we like about you.
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Sure, but anyone who looked at the situation knew this would be the outcome.I would bet my life there will be nothing come of it.
Imagine if this shit happened everytime an embassy was attacked.
well...given the fact that this was the first ambassador killed in 35 or so years and the President floated some stupid story about an internet video being the cause of it...I think the matter warranted a second...third and perhaps fourth look.
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Bear in mind...this isn't he final report...it's a Democrat discussing what the final report could contain
we will know it's true when Fox stops talking about it and moves on to something else.
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House panel: No administration wrongdoing in Benghazi attack
Source: San Francisco Gate
The House Intelligence Committee, led by Republicans, has concluded that there was no deliberate wrongdoing by the Obama administration in the 2012 attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, that killed Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans, said Rep. Mike Thompson of St. Helena, the second-ranking Democrat on the committee.
Among the Intelligence Committee's findings, according to Thompson:
-- Intelligence agencies were "warned about an increased threat environment, but did not have specific tactical warning of an attack before it happened."
-- "A mixed group of individuals, including those associated with al Qaeda, (Moammar) Khadafy loyalists and other Libyan militias, participated in the attack."
-- "There was no 'stand-down order' given to American personnel attempting to offer assistance that evening, no illegal activity or illegal arms transfers occurring by U.S. personnel in Benghazi, and no American was left behind."
-- The administration's process for developing "talking points" was "flawed, but the talking points reflected the conflicting intelligence assessments in the days immediately following the crisis."
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/House-panel-No-administration-wrongdoing-in-5663509.php?cmpid=twitter
Case closed.
Sfgate.com is an incontrovertible source of news. Glad to see another "fake" scandal go by the wayside.
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um... you guys expected a different result?
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um... you guys expected a different result?
well, yes!
there are several more panels to spend our $$ and make 'breaking news' on FOX- we can only hope something will be found or Steve Doucy will be at a loss for words
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Wait though, what about Obama calling off help as he watched them die in real time? Why didn't he send in team america?
I am still not convinced, there just has to be something there.
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This is not the final report...this is a leak from a democrat on the panel. Let's wait until the final report is released and we'll see exactly how things are worded and what specific allegations are addressed.
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must have missed the part where the repubs waited for the final report before accusing everyone under the sun :D :D :D
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must have missed the part where the repubs waited for the final report before accusing everyone under the sun :D :D :D
shit man, ouch. great point.
the report will be clean. repubs milked it, but yeah. Whatever went on in benghazi (glen beck was very clear about it), nobody wants that on the world stage. So obama will get away with it.
NOW MSNBC will stop mocking the story, and they'll have a trophy to hold up, 24/7. totally cool.
NOW FOX will get silent on the issue, since it'll make their viewers upset. Totally cool.
These "media outlets" are just private companies that can cover any topic they wish, and ignore/downplay any stories they want. Just as BET has every right to declare a new record is wack or is the hottest joint of 2014... MSN and FOX and CNN have every right to suddenly deem benghazi as non-newsworthy, or as a victory to talk about nonstop.
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must have missed the part where the repubs waited for the final report before accusing everyone under the sun :D :D :D
LOL!
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This is not the final report...this is a leak from a democrat on the panel. Let's wait until the final report is released and we'll see exactly how things are worded and what specific allegations are addressed.
Translation : hoping against hope for some tiny misspelling to be overlooked so it can render the entire report a biased cover up.
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Translation : hoping against hope for some tiny misspelling to be overlooked so it can render the entire report a biased cover up.
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must have missed the part where the repubs waited for the final report before accusing everyone under the sun :D :D :D
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yeah, that's the line of the month right there. I still think obama let it happen. but the repubs WERE very quick to make accusations for 2 years without a final report- much the way many accused Bush of inaction on the first 9/11, without a report. I still think BOTH presidents sat on their hands and let things unfold. Obama didn't send bad guys into the embassy any more than Bush ordered 911... but did both men just kinda, stand still and let the incidents unfold? yes, that's what it looks like. That whole "Can't blame me!" thing is shallow when a person has the power and technology and ability and DUTY to act to stop an attack mid-stream.
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"Let's wait for the final report" will be the temporary mantra until it comes out and is replaced by sound of crickets on the far right every time the word Benghazi is brought up.
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if someone has the time some of 33's posts on the topic are funny./ Coach too. He was calling him a murderer, claiming he watched them die in real time, called of a strike, knew about it before hand, refused extra support, purposely lied about the reason etc.
None of it is true, NONE.
Fucking delusional morons are destroying the earth.
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does this report say anything about a tape being the cause?
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if someone has the time some of 33's posts on the topic are funny./ Coach too. He was calling him a murderer, claiming he watched them die in real time, called of a strike, knew about it before hand, refused extra support, purposely lied about the reason etc.
None of it is true, NONE.
Fucking delusional morons are destroying the earth.
Fox news smart
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does this report say anything about a tape being the cause?
No, they are hosting another panel where they will tease apart this ever important piece of info. Won't cost too much, another few million of tax payers money.
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does this report say anything about a tape being the cause?
he can cite the tape as cause as something like "we had multiple information sources coming in at the same time, we learned later the tape wasn't the case, etc" in order to get out of that lie. We all know it was a lie, but the motivation behind the attack, well, that goes into CT territory, ala glen beck.
But PURPOSEFUL INACTION - That is impeachable. Shrugging off 4 men begging for backup during a 7 hour firefight - THAT is something to look at. So he could go to a Jay-Z party. I still think that's what happened.
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No, they are hosting another panel where they will tease apart this ever important piece of info. Won't cost too much, another few million of tax payers money.
sounds good we can add that to the millions lost in GDP from the admin dragging their feet on drilling wells, fracking and the XL pipeline.
seems like the govt is intent on wasting money and prohibiting productivity all over the place
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sounds good we can add that to the millions lost in GDP from the admin dragging their feet on drilling wells, fracking and the XL pipeline.
seems like the govt is intent on wasting money and prohibiting productivity all over the place
Right, because a false investigation is the exact same thing as legitamate scientific concerns over complex issues like wetlands, well water and environmental damage..
this was a farce. the other is not.
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Right, because a false investigation is the exact same thing as legitamate scientific concerns over complex issues like wetlands, well water and environmental damage..
this was a farce. the other is not.
sane comments like yours will just upset some of the fox news/breitbart crowd.
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Right, because a false investigation is the exact same thing as legitamate scientific concerns over complex issues like wetlands, well water and environmental damage..
this was a farce. the other is not.
hahaha legitamate concerns?
you do know the admins was sued by the companies applying for drilling permits for intentionally dragging their feet right?
You do know the admin lost, right?
hahah what a fucktard you are
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hahaha legitamate concerns?
you do know the admins was sued by the companies applying for drilling permits for intentionally dragging their feet right?
You do know the admin lost, right?
hahah what a fucktard you are
There are many environmental concerns that are not legal concerns, do you not know how to determine that?
Why are they dragging their feet again?
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There are many environmental concerns that are not legal concerns, do you not know how to determine that?
Why are they dragging their feet again?
it was determined that there was no legitamate reason for the admin to drag their feet....
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it was determined that there was no legitamate reason for the admin to drag their feet....
and so, we are drilling now?
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and so, we are drilling now?
would that make intentionally stalling applications and creating more red tape acceptable in your mind?
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it was determined that there was no legitamate reason for the admin to drag their feet....
Depending on what "reasons" are held as legitamate in court however.
Renewables make so much more sense, look at Germany, long term it makes more sense.
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Depending on what "reasons" are held as legitamate in court however.
Renewables make so much more sense, look at Germany, long term it makes more sense.
hahahah that doesnt make what the obama admin did fucking acceptable.
I completely agree with you by the way that renewable energy is the way we need to go but we certainly arent there yet.
both can and should be developed, the admin should not be picking the winners and losers especially in terms of a private market place
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do you think the govt should be able to tax you if you use renewable energy?
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do you think the govt should be able to tax you if you use renewable energy?
If they are providing infrastructure etc of course.
If you mean like a solar panel at my house then no.
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Fear of ‘Another Benghazi’ Drove White House to Airstrikes in Iraq
New York Slimes ^ | 8/8/2014 | MARK LANDLER, ALISSA J. RUBIN, MARK MAZZETTI and HELENE COOPER
Posted on August 9, 2014 at 1:30:16 PM EDT by mojito
On Wednesday evening, moments after finishing a summit meeting with African leaders at the State Department, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff delivered a stark message to President Obama as they rode back to the White House in Mr. Obama’s limousine.
The Kurdish capital, Erbil, once an island of pro-American tranquillity, was in the path of rampaging Sunni militants, the chairman, Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, told the president. And to the west, the militants had trapped thousands of members of Iraqi minority groups on a barren mountaintop, with dwindling supplies, raising concerns about a potential genocide.
With American diplomats and business people in Erbil suddenly at risk, at the American Consulate and elsewhere, Mr. Obama began a series of intensive deliberations that resulted, only a day later, in his authorizing airstrikes on the militants, as well as humanitarian airdrops of food and water to the besieged Iraqis.
Looming over that discussion, and the decision to return the United States to a war Mr. Obama had built his political career disparaging, was the specter of an earlier tragedy: the September 2012 attack on the diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, which killed four Americans, including Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens....
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
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if someone has the time some of 33's posts on the topic are funny./ Coach too. He was calling him a murderer, claiming he watched them die in real time, called of a strike, knew about it before hand, refused extra support, purposely lied about the reason etc.
None of it is true, NONE.
Fucking delusional morons are destroying the earth.
What did you expect? Now all you hear is crickets from them.
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What did you expect? Now all you hear is crickets from them.
So again - what was o-fagget doing that night?
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So again - what was o-fagget doing that night?
So a spontaneous attack can not occur while he is doing something?he could of been taking a shit, it wouldn't have mattered where Obama was, none of this had to do with him, that's the issue. Knowing you this issue is all about Obama, what he was doing, where he was as if it matters. That is Hilary's point, what does it fucking matter?
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So a spontaneous attack can not occur while he is doing something?he could of been taking a shit, it wouldn't have mattered where Obama was, none of this had to do with him, that's the issue. Knowing you this issue is all about Obama, what he was doing, where he was as if it matters. That is Hilary's point, what does it fucking matter?
Anninversay of 9/11 and the embassy is under attack and gaybama goes off to a fundraiser w Jay Z - nice
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So again - what was o-fagget doing that night?
Sowing Jungle Fever in your diseased brain? Same as he does every night.
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lurker do you or did you ever believe that the attack was the result of a youtube clip?
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lurker do you or did you ever believe that the attack was the result of a youtube clip?
Hell yeah man. Just the other day I saw some dumb ass youtube clip and it caused me to go outside and grab my neighbors baby stroller and whip ass up and down the block. (Baby still inside). Damn youtube. WTF was God thinking when he created this?
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Hell yeah man. Just the other day I saw some dumb ass youtube clip and it caused me to go outside and grab my neighbors baby stroller and whip ass up and down the block. (Baby still inside). Damn youtube. WTF was God thinking when he created this?
hahahah I almost spit out some food imaging you walkind up and down the block swinging a stroller.
seriously though, I think anyone looking at this and thinking that it clears the admin from any wrong doing in the event or the "cover up" is just willfully ignorant.
Seriously did you ever buy the idea that the attack was the result of a youtube clip?
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Would youtube cause you to do this? No.
Would youtube cause me to do this? No.
But seeing how I personally feel that "those" people as an entire race have something wrong with their brain development and maturity, it might very well be so. Provided of course that youtube is even allowed in their country and they sat around for 9 hours waiting for the clip to load with their shitty dial up service.
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Would youtube cause you to do this? No.
Would youtube cause me to do this? No.
But seeing how I personally feel that "those" people as an entire race have something wrong with their brain development and maturity, it might very well be so. Provided of course that youtube is even allowed in their country and they sat around for 9 hours waiting for the clip to load with their shitty dial up service.
well muslim isnt a race so Im not sure what you mean there.
so youre saying you believe the admin line that this was a spontaneous attack generated by a youtube video?
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White House Official: We're Striking Iraq Because We Don't Want 'Another Benghazi'
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The 2012 attack on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya may have inspired President Barack Obama to launch airstrikes in Iraq last week against jihadists affiliated with Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIS or ISIL).
A New York Times article about the leadup to the military operations in Iraq published Friday included a quote from someone described as a "senior administration official, speaking on the condition of anonymity to describe the White House’s internal deliberations" who said the Benghazi attacks were a key factor in the decisionmaking process.
"The situation near Erbil was becoming more dire than anyone expected," the official said. "We didn’t want another Benghazi."
Four Americans were killed in the Benghazi attacks including U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stephens. In his public statements over the past few days, Obama has said the military operations in Iraq have two goals — preventing "genocide" against members of the Yazidi religious minority and protecting diplomatic personnel in the Iraqi city of Erbil.
According to the Times, Obama began discussing military operations when he heard Islamic State fighters were approaching Erbil because he was concerned about "American diplomats and business people" in the city. In a statement made on the White House's south lawn Saturday, Obama cited his desire to protect Americans working at the U.S. Consulate, which is located in Erbil, when he said he could not commit to a specific timetable for military operations in Iraq.
"We're not moving our embassy any time soon, we're not moving our consulate any time soon," said Obama.
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/white-house-launched-iraq-strikes-to-stop-another-benghazi-2014-8#ixzz3A5SF4GOt