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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: kiwiol on February 09, 2006, 08:15:36 AM
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At their very best, both these guys weighed around 260 @ 5'9''. They have similar strengths - Awesome quads and calves, wide rear lat spread etc. and being blocky even. So, at their peak, who's better? I think they both had/have great physiques - what do u bitches think?
(http://www.bodybuilders.com/franc102.jpg) (http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=26163&d=1071790752)
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Both no shredded glutes.
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Francois by far.
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Francois by far.
Ok "Sarcasm" ::) LOL. But seriously, why?
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they both look good in those pics
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Ok "Sarcasm" ::) LOL. But seriously, why?
thicker, more detailed back, smaller waist, way better arms, better quad sweep, thicker chest.
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thicker, more detailed back, smaller waist, way better arms, better quad sweep, thicker chest.
agree, way better midsection
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I agree Fancois by far
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remember this, Francois is the only white bb'er besides Yates to ever beat Flex Wheeler at his best, Jay could never come close to doing that.
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thicker, more detailed back, smaller waist, way better arms, better quad sweep, thicker chest.
At his best, Jay has a really thick back, but the same problem Mike had - not a very conditioned lower back. They both had good Xmas trees though. Also, Jay is way wider and his outer quad sweep probably seems better than mike's due to their taper. Mike had no taper in his quads - they were as wide at the bottom as they were at the top. But he was better conditioned than Jay though - looked liked he was carved outta stone in the 95 Arnold classic (that he won) a la Dorian
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At his best, Jay has a really thick back, but the same problem Mike had - not a very conditioned lower back. They both had good Xmas trees though. Also, Jay is way wider and his outer quad sweep probably seems better than mike's due to their taper. Mike had no taper in his quads - they were as wide at the bottom as they were at the top. But he was better conditioned than Jay though - looked liked he was carved outta stone in the 95 Arnold classic (that he won) a la Dorian
it's painfully obvious from the pictures above who was better even though the picture of Mike is a fourth of the size.
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remember this, Francois is the only white bb'er besides Yates to ever beat Flex Wheeler at his best, Jay could never come close to doing that.
Not really, Mike beat flex at the 95 Arnold when flex was actually subpar (compared to his best). In the 97 arnold classic, he beat mike even though mike was close to his all time best
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it's painfully obvious from the pictures above who was better even though the picture of Mike is a fourth of the size.
I agree. I personally like Mike's physique, though I think Jay looks awesome as well (especially in the off season - bloated face notwithstanding)
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That's Art Atwood on the left.
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Is this thread a joke? Francois hands down. Anyone with more than 200 posts can see that!
I like Jay. He's improved a lot over the years, but both at their peak (btw, I don't think we ever saw Francois at his peak) Mikey wins! Better back, better lines, better everything! Except colon, I guess. :-\
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"Better back, better lines, better everything! Except colon, I guess."
You'd like a part of that last sentence, huh....
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Is this thread a joke? Francois hands down. Anyone with more than 200 posts can see that!
I like Jay. He's improved a lot over the years, but both at their peak (btw, I don't think we ever saw Francois at his peak) Mikey wins! Better back, better lines, better everything! Except colon, I guess. :-\
Yes I think so too...even with Jay's improvments Mike could beat him.
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Mike would smoke Jay off the stage.
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vote for
jay
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"Better back, better lines, better everything! Except colon, I guess."
You'd like a part of that last sentence, huh....
Mike's colon... gay sex? Oh, I get it. Aren't you witty! Yawn.
You're not ready or comedy central, yet. :(
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Both no shredded glutes.
Thats the first thing you notice huh?.... ::)
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Mike was good but his torso too long. Jay would have edged him with both being at their best.
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mike... no question no competition...
one of my fav bb's
he could have been mr olympia
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At his best, Jay has a really thick back, but the same problem Mike had - not a very conditioned lower back.
Mike has one of the sickest lower backs ever IMO. I don't know what you are talking about. He has like two thick steelcords running up his back.
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Francios by a mile. He beats Cutler for the same reasons Ronnie does, more vascular, better shape to his muscles and infinitely more detailed.
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Francios by a mile. He beats Cutler for the same reasons Ronnie does, more vascular, better shape to his muscles and infinitely more detailed.
The jury has spoken.
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The jury has spoken.
And the judge..
You may all be seated.
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The jury has spoken.
I'm a felon, I can't be the jury.
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IN HIS PRIME, FRANCOIS WOULD BEAT CUTLER. FRANCOIS HAD THE BETTER GENETICS. IN MY OPINION, HE LOOKED BETTER THEN YATES. HE HAD BETTER LINES.
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Regardless.. Both can't win Mr. Olympia
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Francios by a mile. He beats Cutler for the same reasons Ronnie does, more vascular, better shape to his muscles and infinitely more detailed.
Fair enough, but what if Jay did a CC (Chris cormier - arms crossed overhead) onstage? Surely, that would give him a huge advantage? :D
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always been a big fan of Mikes.
he beats jay easily...better lines, shape
anybody heard how mike is doing?
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(http://anabolic-steroids.blogspot.com/Jay-Cutler-2005.jpg)
look at the big swollen head!
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I'm a Cutler fan but I agree with the majority...Mike hands down... Unreal potential
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There's actually 29 people in the NPC in N. CAROLINA? glad to see y'all are coming up!!
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Fair enough, but what if Jay did a CC (Chris cormier - arms crossed overhead) onstage? Surely, that would give him a huge advantage? :D
If Cutler threw down a double-C his head would shrink two hat sizes.