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Routine traffic stop-->struggle-->death
http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/23/us/texas-police-chief-killed/index.html?c=homepage-t
(CNN) - A police chief in a small Texas town was shot multiple times during a traffic stop Saturday afternoon and later died, authorities said.
Michael Pimentel served in Elmendorf, a suburb southeast of San Antonio with about 1,500 residents.
According to Rosanne Hughes, spokeswoman of the Bexar County Sheriff's Office, Pimentel pulled over a vehicle in a residential area. There was a struggle and Pimentel was shot, Hughes said.
The chief was flown by helicopter to University Hospital in San Antonio, where he died of his wounds, according to Hughes.
The Bexar County Sheriff's Office took 24-year-old Joshua Manuel Lopez into custody and he will face charges of capital murder of a police officer, said Hughes.
According to Hughes, Lopez had an active misdemeanor warrant for graffiti at the time he was pulled over.
At a press conference, Sheriff Susan L. Pamerleau expressed her department's condolences and said "even on a quiet, peaceful day in a small town, it can turn deadly in an instant."
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24-year-old Joshua Manuel Lopez into custody
nuff said
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Looks like racial profiling doesn't always go as planned.........
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Looks like racial profiling doesn't always go as planned.........
He had a warrant for his arrest, genius and was trying to take him into custody. Typical that you would side with the animals.
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Routine traffic stop-->struggle-->death
http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/23/us/texas-police-chief-killed/index.html?c=homepage-t
(CNN) - A police chief in a small Texas town was shot multiple times during a traffic stop Saturday afternoon and later died, authorities said.
Michael Pimentel served in Elmendorf, a suburb southeast of San Antonio with about 1,500 residents.
According to Rosanne Hughes, spokeswoman of the Bexar County Sheriff's Office, Pimentel pulled over a vehicle in a residential area. There was a struggle and Pimentel was shot, Hughes said.
The chief was flown by helicopter to University Hospital in San Antonio, where he died of his wounds, according to Hughes.
The Bexar County Sheriff's Office took 24-year-old Joshua Manuel Lopez into custody and he will face charges of capital murder of a police officer, said Hughes.
According to Hughes, Lopez had an active misdemeanor warrant for graffiti at the time he was pulled over.
At a press conference, Sheriff Susan L. Pamerleau expressed her department's condolences and said "even on a quiet, peaceful day in a small town, it can turn deadly in an instant."
Good to see the Police taking hard core crime seriously. Grafitti is no joke.
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Looks like racial profiling doesn't always go as planned.........
Sure.....I will bet he's just a poor unfortunate "undocumented migrant" (illegal alien) who came here to study astrophysics under the Dream Act.
A Liberals wet dream...
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Killing a cop in Texas.....he'll never see the light of day again.
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Good thing he didn't defend himself better.
It would be horrible to be branded a racist by doing so.
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Killing a cop in Texas.....he'll never see the light of day again.
Dead in 10 to 12 years = death penalty... lethal injection..
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Killing a cop in Texas.....he'll never see the light of day again.
Perfectly stated. This wetback's nightmare is only beginning......
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He had a warrant for his arrest, genius and was trying to take him into custody. Typical that you would side with the animals.
End thread
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Dead in 10 to 12 years = death penalty... lethal injection..
it's a cop, dead in 5 at most. They'll fast track this guy.
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The suspect's parents will be on the news, via a translator, discussing how he was trying to turn his life around and better himself for his 6 children.... with one more to be due next month.
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Good thing he didn't defend himself better.
It would be horrible to be branded a racist by doing so.
yep
i wonder how many white folks will take to the streets and riot
about the injustice of illegal immigrants killing cops
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You live by the sword you die by the sword
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Soon his last words will be published here. Some interesting reading.
http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/death_row/dr_executed_offenders.html
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Good to see the Police taking hard core crime seriously. Grafitti is no joke.
So then, it's "art"? What about when it's on your property?
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So then, it's "art"? What about when it's on your property?
Exactly.
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The suspect's parents will be on the news, via a translator, discussing how he was trying to turn his life around and better himself for his 6 children.... with one more to be due next month.
u know the routine,his pastor of the church will b there also saying he was a active member at the church ::) anyone that shoots a cop is not a nice guy period,that action speaks for itself, i dont always agree with cops n the shit they pull sometime but killing one is crazy,especially in texas,they r prolly barbecuing his ass now as we talk n r getting ready to feed him to their dogs,texas dont play
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Good to see the Police taking hard core crime seriously. Grafitti is no joke.
If he was wanted for vandalsim, he should have just went with the police officer to the station...... got booked and finger printed. If there was a bail set, it would've been low. He could've been out within a couple hours. Eventually, he would've been fined and given community service.
but instead, he murdered the cop.
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Good thing he didn't defend himself better.
It would be horrible to be branded a racist by doing so.
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The most important thing is that he was tolerant and respected their right as disenfranchised peoples to shoot him.
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Typical filth. Hope he has a nice time in the slammer.
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The most important thing is that he was tolerant and respected their right as disenfranchised peoples to shoot him.
Hahaha
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If this article read: Police Chief pulls over a person, a struggle ensued, and the suspect was shot and killed, all the comments would be the same.....except slanted in favor of the cop.
Guess the police chief of that Podunk town likes.....pardon me -liked to take matters into his own hands and pull over easy prey.
Perhaps the next one of his inbred family that takes the job will be a bit more respectful of human rights....
Not happy to hear that anyone gets killed, but in a case where it's a pig versus a human, if one has to go, I would like it to end this way every time. Call it a character flaw of mine....
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If this article read: Police Chief pulls over a person, a struggle ensued, and the suspect was shot and killed, all the comments would be the same.....except slanted in favor of the cop.
Guess the police chief of that Podunk town likes.....pardon me -liked to take matters into his own hands and pull over easy prey.
Perhaps the next one of his inbred family that takes the job will be a bit more respectful of human rights....
Not happy to hear that anyone gets killed, but in a case where it's a pig versus a human, if one has to go, I would like it to end this way every time. Call it a character flaw of mine....
Hahaha, I grew up in Louisiana and Texas. The gun totting folks down there are more dangerous than the police since no one sees anything if your ass gets capped. I can only assume the b e a n e r was carrying cocaine. They make runs through Florida, Louisiana and Texas for their Mexican distributors.
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If this article read: Police Chief pulls over a person, a struggle ensued, and the suspect was shot and killed, all the comments would be the same.....except slanted in favor of the cop.
Guess the police chief of that Podunk town likes.....pardon me -liked to take matters into his own hands and pull over easy prey.
Perhaps the next one of his inbred family that takes the job will be a bit more respectful of human rights....
Not happy to hear that anyone gets killed, but in a case where it's a pig versus a human, if one has to go, I would like it to end this way every time. Call it a character flaw of mine....
WTF are you talking about?
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Joshua Manuel Lopez. Welcome to Death Row, bitch.
(http://media2.newsobserver.com/smedia/2014/08/24/13/52/590-g7QP1.AuSt.55.jpeg)
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If this article read: Police Chief pulls over a person, a struggle ensued, and the suspect was shot and killed, all the comments would be the same.....except slanted in favor of the cop.
Guess the police chief of that Podunk town likes.....pardon me -liked to take matters into his own hands and pull over easy prey.
Perhaps the next one of his inbred family that takes the job will be a bit more respectful of human rights....
Not happy to hear that anyone gets killed, but in a case where it's a pig versus a human, if one has to go, I would like it to end this way every time. Call it a character flaw of mine....
On a troll scale maybe like a 1.5 out of 10.
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If this article read: Police Chief pulls over a person, a struggle ensued, and the suspect was shot and killed, all the comments would be the same.....except slanted in favor of the cop.
Guess the police chief of that Podunk town likes.....pardon me -liked to take matters into his own hands and pull over easy prey.
Perhaps the next one of his inbred family that takes the job will be a bit more respectful of human rights....
Not happy to hear that anyone gets killed, but in a case where it's a pig versus a human, if one has to go, I would like it to end this way every time. Call it a character flaw of mine....
so you condone murder?
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If this article read: Police Chief pulls over a person, a struggle ensued, and the suspect was shot and killed, all the comments would be the same.....except slanted in favor of the cop.
Guess the police chief of that Podunk town likes.....pardon me -liked to take matters into his own hands and pull over easy prey.
Perhaps the next one of his inbred family that takes the job will be a bit more respectful of human rights....
Not happy to hear that anyone gets killed, but in a case where it's a pig versus a human, if one has to go, I would like it to end this way every time. Call it a character flaw of mine....
The police protect those they don't even know. You know, strangers.
That would include you because it rarely gets any more strange that what you just said above. You remind me of an idiot I met during the Rodney King riots in LA. He said that "we" (i.e., Caucasians) deserve to be murdered and raped by "them" (i.e. Negroes) because "we" were basically evil and had oppressed "them" for years.
I asked (not "axed") him if he was okay with seeing his wife and young daughter raped by peeps of color and then watching them kill his family and then him for the sins of "whitey". He said yes.
He was full of shit.
And with regard to your comment on the taking of this officer's life, so are you.
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Seņor Lopez is in mucho trouble.
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so you condone murder?
No, I do not. I also do not condone police brutality. One thing I do condone is a person who defends himself when attacked...
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The police protect those they don't even know. You know, strangers.
That would include you because it rarely gets any more strange that what you just said above. You remind me of an idiot I met during the Rodney King riots in LA. He said that "we" (i.e., Caucasians) deserve to be murdered and raped by "them" (i.e. Negroes) because "we" were basically evil and had oppressed "them" for years.
I asked (not "axed") him if he was okay with seeing his wife and young daughter raped by peeps of color and then watching them kill his family and then him for the sins of "whitey". He said yes.
He was full of shit.
And with regard to your comment on the taking of this officer's life, so are you.
Oh, you still believe that "protect and serve" bullshit? hahahaha....Good luck with that. The only thing they are interested in protecting is their own asses.
As far as the King case, do you believe Rodney deserved to get beaten by half a dozen armed cops? That's not the way it's supposed to happen. Luckily someone recorded it.....modern technology doing its job for once. Opened people's eyes to the cowardly actions of the world's biggest gang.
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No, I do not. I also do not condone police brutality. One thing I do condone is a person who defends himself when attacked...
The guy was wanted on a warrant.... I'm guessing that he was desperate to avoid jail. He probably freaked out when he got pulled over, and grabbed a gun from his glove compartment.
The case doesn't sound like a police brutality situation.
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Oh, you still believe that "protect and serve" bullshit? hahahaha....Good luck with that. The only thing they are interested in protecting is their own asses.
As far as the King case, do you believe Rodney deserved to get beaten by half a dozen armed cops? That's not the way it's supposed to happen. Luckily someone recorded it.....modern technology doing its job for once. Opened people's eyes to the cowardly actions of the world's biggest gang.
Yup, I do believe that. Cops are good people and criminals are not. As for King, no he didn't deserve that beating and LA didn't deserve the rioting either. No TV. No appliances. No peace.
King should've been caught, cuffed and booked like any other suspect. Nothing more. But you already knew that.
No shit.
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He had a warrant for his arrest, genius and was trying to take him into custody. Typical that you would side with the animals.
Saw a case from 11 Aug I think where black cop killed unarmed white kid. No marches on that.
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No, I do not. I also do not condone police brutality. One thing I do condone is a person who defends himself when attacked...
Yes, because this guy...
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...attacked this guy ::)
(http://a57.foxnews.com/global.fncstatic.com/static/managed/img/876/493/Lopez640082414.jpg?ve=1&tl=1)
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Yes, because this guy...
(http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/5314207c8b2449be222ad547071297a1b6af4d4b/c=242-0-849-607&r=x223&c=200x220/local/-/media/KENS/KENS/2014/08/23/1408827453000-2014823PIMENTEL.jpg)
...attacked this guy ::)
(http://a57.foxnews.com/global.fncstatic.com/static/managed/img/876/493/Lopez640082414.jpg?ve=1&tl=1)
People believe what they want to.
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Why didn't seņor Lopez just shoot to wound? He could have shot the cop in the leg to stop the threat, he didn't have to kill him.
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Why didn't seņor Lopez just shoot to wound? He could have shot the cop in the leg to stop the threat, he didn't have to kill him.
I see what you did here.
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Why didn't seņor Lopez just shoot to wound? He could have shot the cop in the leg to stop the threat, he didn't have to kill him.
I think Seņor Lopez should have used non-lethal force, perhaps a Taser or pepper spray
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The guy was wanted on a warrant.... I'm guessing that he was desperate to avoid jail. He probably freaked out when he got pulled over, and grabbed a gun from his glove compartment.
The case doesn't sound like a police brutality situation.
Could be. He also could have been pulled over and been treated harshly. Cops are known to do that on occasion.
He was wanted on a graffiti warrant? Don't the Texas cops have better things to do than to go after spray paint vandals?
As I said earlier, what happened happened. Not glad it did.....especially over something so stupid as a spray can or two, but in most cases, it most likely would have ended up with the evil artist on the way to the morgue.
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Could be. He also could have been pulled over and been treated harshly. Cops are known to do that on occasion.
He was wanted on a graffiti warrant? Don't the Texas cops have better things to do than to go after spray paint vandals?
As I said earlier, what happened happened. Not glad it did.....especially over something so stupid as a spray can or two, but in most cases, it most likely would have ended up with the evil artist on the way to the morgue.
People shouldn't be arrested for vandalism warrants?
I'm trying to understand where you are coming from on this one.
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Yup, I do believe that. Cops are good people and criminals are not. As for King, no he didn't deserve that beating and LA didn't deserve the rioting either. No TV. No appliances. No peace.
King should've been caught, cuffed and booked like any other suspect. Nothing more. But you already knew that.
No shit.
Glad you still believe..... Tell Santa and the Easter Bunny I said hey.......
"Cops are good people" is a statement that can be disproven at least a few times a week in the pages of every newspaper in every state, and Internet news sources.
You will continue to believe their bullshit until they prove otherwise.....either to you personally, or they fuck over someone close to you who is not a liar or mental case. Then you will think otherwise........
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Yes, because this guy...
(http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/5314207c8b2449be222ad547071297a1b6af4d4b/c=242-0-849-607&r=x223&c=200x220/local/-/media/KENS/KENS/2014/08/23/1408827453000-2014823PIMENTEL.jpg)
...attacked this guy ::)
(http://a57.foxnews.com/global.fncstatic.com/static/managed/img/876/493/Lopez640082414.jpg?ve=1&tl=1)
Were you there? How do you know what actually happened? The answer: You don't.
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Were you there? How do you know what actually happened? The answer: You don't.
Were you there? How do you know what actually happened? The answer: You don't, either.
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Glad you still believe..... Tell Santa and the Easter Bunny I said hey.......
"Cops are good people" is a statement that can be disproven at least a few times a week in the pages of every newspaper in every state, and Internet news sources.
You will continue to believe their bullshit until they prove otherwise.....either to you personally, or they fuck over someone close to you who is not a liar or mental case. Then you will think otherwise........
There are over 700,000 cops in the US. You are basing your biases on a tiny sample that is not representative of the whole, also known as a confirmation bias.
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People shouldn't be arrested for vandalism warrants?
I'm trying to understand where you are coming from on this one.
They should leave people the fuck alone........
Things must be real slow in town when the Chief of Police is pulling people over.
As far as "where I'm coming from".....I'm coming from "I don't care what happened." I don't care that the cop got shot. I wouldn't care if the graffiti artist was shot. Don't care about either......
I posted that in most cases, the arrestee is the one who ends up beaten or killed. This time it didn't quite work that way. Chalk it up as part of the job.
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There are over 700,000 cops in the US. You are basing your biases on a tiny sample that is not representative of the whole, also known as a confirmation bias.
Well then.....call me confirmed.
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i read title as "texas COO killed"
i thought wow this could be a juicy mob story
sadly no :-\
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Were you there? How do you know what actually happened? The answer: You don't, either.
Yeah, no shit...... We agree that neither one of us was there. Hooray for progress...
However, one of us posted an assumption that the older cop in no way, shape or form could have attacked the big, bad spray paint monster. I believe that was you....
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Yeah, no shit...... We agree that neither one of us was there. Hooray for progress...
However, one of us posted an assumption that the older cop in no way, shape or form could have attacked the big, bad spray paint monster. I believe that was you....
Oh, really?
Guess the police chief of that Podunk town likes.....pardon me -liked to take matters into his own hands and pull over easy prey.
Perhaps the next one of his inbred family that takes the job will be a bit more respectful of human rights....
in a case where it's a pig versus a human, if one has to go, I would like it to end this way every time
One thing I do condone is a person who defends himself when attacked...
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Yeah, no shit...... We agree that neither one of us was there. Hooray for progress...
However, one of us posted an assumption that the older cop in no way, shape or form could have attacked the big, bad spray paint monster. I believe that was you....
And you made sweeping generalizations about police officers that have nothing to do with the individuals involved in this case. These sweeping generalization are the basis of your entire position.
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Oh, really?
Check mate. We can all go home now.
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Glad you still believe..... Tell Santa and the Easter Bunny I said hey.......
"Cops are good people" is a statement that can be disproven at least a few times a week in the pages of every newspaper in every state, and Internet news sources.
You will continue to believe their bullshit until they prove otherwise.....either to you personally, or they fuck over someone close to you who is not a liar or mental case. Then you will think otherwise........
Out of valid ammo, eh? Unless of course you count the one thing you're full of. What a lonely boy.
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So a civilian killed a cop, well that's one less criminal on the streets. ;D
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Oh, really?
What did those other statements have to do with your incorrect assumption? Stop grasping at straws.....
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And you made sweeping generalizations about police officers that have nothing to do with the individuals involved in this case. These sweeping generalization are the basis of your entire position.
If you call an opinion about how I feel about police action is a "sweeping generalization," then well swept I am.....
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Out of valid ammo, eh? Unless of course you count the one thing you're full of. What a lonely boy.
Out of valid ammo? Why do you have to mock the recently deceased like that? Your chief deserves better.....
Actually, I did something that may be foreign to you......I logged out for a bit to engage in real life.
Additionally....not lonely or full of shit. Everything I posted may not be to your liking, but it's the way I think.....and it's the way a lot of people think. You just may not know it. Anyway, you know what they say about opinions, right?
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probably ran out of helicopters the other day in Ferguson
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Did a white cop shoot a black guy?
I don't care about facts.
Yours sincerely,
Al Sharpton
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let me know if you fellas want any assistance figuring this one out ;D
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Out of valid ammo? Why do you have to mock the recently deceased like that? Your chief deserves better.....
Actually, I did something that may be foreign to you......I logged out for a bit to engage in real life.
Additionally....not lonely or full of shit. Everything I posted may not be to your liking, but it's the way I think.....and it's the way a lot of people think. You just may not know it. Anyway, you know what they say about opinions, right?
You really are a simple minded inbred, aren't you? My words were directed at your total inability to proffer anything other than hatred and distrust of police officers, not your being able to "engage in real life".
I am fast becoming jaded here due in part to people such as yourself. As for the way you "think", I suspect it to be more the way you feel. As for opinions, Bette Davis once said that when a man gives his opinion he's being a man but when a woman gives hers she's being a bitch.
To that I would had this. When a libtard gives theirs its because they want it made law so that others are forced to accept it. There may well come a day in your imitation of life when you need the help of LEO. If so, I hope they don't make it in time. You deserve that.
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You really are a simple minded inbred, aren't you? My words were directed at your total inability to proffer anything other than hatred and distrust of police officers, not your being able to "engage in real life".
I am fast becoming jaded here due in part to people such as yourself. As for the way you "think", I suspect it to be more the way you feel. As for opinions, Bette Davis once said that when a man gives his opinion he's being a man but when a woman gives hers she's being a bitch.
To that I would had this. When a libtard gives theirs its because they want it made law so that others are forced to accept it. There may well come a day in your imitation of life when you need the help of LEO. If so, I hope they don't make it in time. You deserve that.
I distrust cops......so what? I have my reasons. I also don't want to change any "laws." There are too many already....that's a big part of the problem. Another part of the problem is people like you - willing to do everything a man in a stupid looking uniform tells you to without question. I don't know what a "libtard" is, but I'm guessing it's better than being a sheep who says "yes, sir and no, sir" to people you believe have authority. Have some self respect, for fuck's sake. As far as you getting jaded due to "people like me" goes, I couldn't care less. If dealing with people who think differently than you do upsets you so much, perhaps an Internet forum is not for you. Go seek out your own kind.....share the same boring opinions on the same boring subjects.....
There will never be another day in my life that I will seek assistance from a cop, so your ill wishes towards my situation of woe has no merit.......
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I distrust cops......so what? I have my reasons. I also don't want to change any "laws." There are too many already....that's a big part of the problem. Another part of the problem is people like you - willing to do everything a man in a stupid looking uniform tells you to without question. I don't know what a "libtard" is, but I'm guessing it's better than being a sheep who says "yes, sir and no, sir" to people you believe have authority. Have some self respect, for fuck's sake. As far as you getting jaded due to "people like me" goes, I couldn't care less. If dealing with people who think differently than you do upsets you so much, perhaps an Internet forum is not for you. Go seek out your own kind.....share the same boring opinions on the same boring subjects.....
There will never be another day in my life that I will seek assistance from a cop, so your ill wishes towards my situation of woe has no merit.......
Reading your responses, You sound like a guy that wants to kill a cop--- but you don't have the balls to do it
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"Cops are good people." ;D hahhahahahhahhahahahhaha!
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Reading your responses, You sound like a guy that wants to kill a cop--- but you don't have the balls to do it
Well, you are wrong. I do not want to kill anyone.
And speaking of balls, you seem the type that would offer to lick the nuts of the next cop that pull you over......just because.
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Routine traffic stop-->struggle-->death
http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/23/us/texas-police-chief-killed/index.html?c=homepage-t
(CNN) - A police chief in a small Texas town was shot multiple times during a traffic stop Saturday afternoon and later died, authorities said.
Michael Pimentel served in Elmendorf, a suburb southeast of San Antonio with about 1,500 residents.
According to Rosanne Hughes, spokeswoman of the Bexar County Sheriff's Office, Pimentel pulled over a vehicle in a residential area. There was a struggle and Pimentel was shot, Hughes said.
The chief was flown by helicopter to University Hospital in San Antonio, where he died of his wounds, according to Hughes.
The Bexar County Sheriff's Office took 24-year-old Joshua Manuel Lopez into custody and he will face charges of capital murder of a police officer, said Hughes.
According to Hughes, Lopez had an active misdemeanor warrant for graffiti at the time he was pulled over.
At a press conference, Sheriff Susan L. Pamerleau expressed her department's condolences and said "even on a quiet, peaceful day in a small town, it can turn deadly in an instant."
A great tragedy :-(
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Well, you are wrong. I do not want to kill anyone.
And speaking of balls, you seem the type that would offer to lick the nuts of the next cop that pull you over......just because.
Why, because I posted a CNN story about a traffic stop that turned into murder??
You're the one with all the hateful responses in this thread. You have some issues that need to be worked out. You are carrying hate/anger.
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Threads like these always point out human hypocrisy. This why I like them so much. People who rail against the system and rant about inequality and prejudice will demonstrate their own like sins readily.
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The Police Force is the most sophisticated organised crime syndicate ever invented. Hope this helps.
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The Police Force is the most sophisticated organised crime syndicate ever invented. Hope this helps.
Not in this case. This was a traffic stop. The guy had a warrant out for his arrest. A misdemeanor. He was probably facing community service. But he lost his cool.
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The Police Force is the most sophisticated organised crime syndicate ever invented. Hope this helps.
I'm generally distrustful of the police but I always try to look at each incident involving police officers independently and objectively
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I'm generally distrustful of the police but I always try to look at each incident involving police officers independently and objectively
I don't. This is the problem with the leftist viewpoint, they fail to hold groups accountable for their actions. Imagine we did this with NAZISM, we just held the few bad apples accountable and allowed NAZISM to continue, this would only exacerbate the problem,. The group culture needs to be confronted and put an end to scapegoating individuals. The GROUP creates bad apples because of the group culture, decent people leave the group once they realise the culture is bad.
We currently have the same issue with Islamic apologists, claiming ISLAM is a peaceful religion, these fuckwits obviously haven't read the KORAN and the regular pronouncements calling for death to infidels. Just like NAZISM, terrorism in the name of Allah will never change until the ideology and the culture that produces it is confronted. The Police are hated for a reason, it's not just so called hardcore criminals that despise them, but the average Joe on the street does now too. The problem with being a policeman is you are trained to ignore your own ethics and morality and enforce the morality of a legal system which may in itself be unethical or unjust. They become extreme conformists. The Nazis were great conformists, that's why they had no guilt when caught for their crimes, they claimed they were just taking orders.
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I don't. This is the problem with the leftist viewpoint, they fail to hold groups accountable for their actions. Imagine we did this with NAZISM, we just held the few bad apples accountable and allowed NAZISM to continue, this would only exacerbate the problem,. The group culture needs to be confronted and put an end to scapegoating individuals. The GROUP creates bad apples because of the group culture, decent people leave the group once they realise the culture is bad.
We currently have the same issue with Islamic apologists, claiming ISLAM is a peaceful religion, these fuckwits obviously haven't read the KORAN and the regular pronouncements calling for death to infidels. Just like NAZISM, terrorism in the name of Allah will never change until the ideology and the culture that produces it is confronted. The Police are hated for a reason, it's not just so called hardcore criminals that despise them, but the average Joe on the street does now too. The problem with being a policeman is you are trained to ignore your own ethics and morality and enforce the morality of a legal system which may in itself be unethical or unjust. They become extreme conformists. The Nazis were great conformists, that's why they had no guilt when caught for their crimes, they claimed they were just taking orders.
Nazi's cooked people in giant ovens.
Red Herring.
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Not in this case. This was a traffic stop. The guy had a warrant out for his arrest. A misdemeanor. He was probably facing community service. But he lost his cool.
Or he was a drug mule for the Mexican cartels and absolutely couldn't afford to get pulled over and taken in....
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Cops killed a guy because of two soda cans so a guy killed a cop for whatever also. Another day in America.
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Threads like these always point out human hypocrisy. This why I like them so much. People who rail against the system and rant about inequality and prejudice will demonstrate their own like sins readily.
yes agreed 100% thanks for making this point!!!
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Nazi's cooked people in giant ovens.
Red Herring.
Only a tiny minority did. And the point is, it's the culture that counts. Nobody cares that there are good police on the job, when there are police abusing their powers, murdering citizens, using brutality and violence to deal with peaceful demonstrators, using their power to endorse corruption etc etc. The nature of the work means they all should be good. If the Police as a whole refuse to eliminate corruption and police abusing their powers they will continue to be distrusted and despised by the public. Same goes with Islam, if the moderates can't reel in the extremists, they too will continue to be mistrusted and despised. Nobody cares about the peaceful within a group, it's the violent and corrupt that control the agenda. The current solution is to scapegoat individuals, which is a classic way of avoiding responsibility and the problem persisting.
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Cops killed a guy because of two soda cans so a guy killed a cop for whatever also. Another day in America.
to robbery was just a method to get the cops over there so he could commit suicide by getting shot.
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The Police Force is the most sophisticated organised crime syndicate ever invented. Hope this helps.
Truth