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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2738653/Stunning-satellite-images-summer-ice-cap-thicker-covers-1-7million-square-kilometres-MORE-2-years-ago-despite-Al-Gore-s-prediction-ICE-FREE-now.html
derp
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Earth has various mechanism which keep it in a state of equilibrium.
Al Gore is such a bag of inane lies. A dirty profiteer like so many others.
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Hence the global warming panic on the left. They realize that the jig is up and they are desperate to codify anything into law before even the lowest information voters realize what a scam this is.
Fraud on this scale should be repaid with a bullet behind the ear.
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Getbig Idiocy reigns supreme once again. Its as if Science is a foreign language. Insane.
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Getbig Idiocy reigns supreme once again. Its as if Science is a foreign language. Insane.
Which side are you on?
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2738653/Stunning-satellite-images-summer-ice-cap-thicker-covers-1-7million-square-kilometres-MORE-2-years-ago-despite-Al-Gore-s-prediction-ICE-FREE-now.html
derp
Coach getting his daily dose of scientific info from Daily Mail, oh brother...
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Well, to be fair, its not global warming anymore, its climate change... that way, any climatic change can be leveraged through political fear mongering for their cronies financial gain.
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hey guys don't worry everything is fine
thanks coach for the update
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2738653/Stunning-satellite-images-summer-ice-cap-thicker-covers-1-7million-square-kilometres-MORE-2-years-ago-despite-Al-Gore-s-prediction-ICE-FREE-now.html
derp
Yes, no one saw this coming. I wonder how the antartic is doing? Could it be that the land mass around the artic has something to do with it? could it be more complex then Al Gore?
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Yes, no one saw this coming. I wonder how the antartic is doing? Could it be that the land mass around the artic has something to do with it? could it be more complex then Al Gore?
There go the moving goalposts again.
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Well, to be fair, its not global warming anymore, its climate change... that way, any climatic change can be leveraged through political fear mongering for their cronies financial gain.
Well put - the lie has been updated... made even more vague.
"We all are the relative of a relative!"
Plato/The Republic when he got asked about the impact of climate change on families.
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There go the moving goalposts again.
Moving what goal posts? we have less ice then ever, the ice sheet in the antartic is collapsing, the increased ice in the artic was predicted, just like temporary pauses and accelerations. The artic and antartic are very different and often behave in an inverse manner due to the land surrounding the antartic.
There is a total loss of ice on a massive scale, what you are doing effectively is going on about the snow in Denver and ignoring the record heat, droughts etc in australia. This article completely misses the overall point. Certain regions will show regional variation, the overall effect is key, there was a massive loss and for the first time ever it the ice sheet is collapsing. Continue with the non-sense but reality will smack you in the face soon enough. We are seeing vegetation move north that has never, ever grown there, we are seeing methane leaks in the oceans, we are currently in the 6th mass extinction event, honestly, humans might be fine but we will have to pay for this.
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For example
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/may/19/doubling-of-antarctic-ice-loss-revealed-by-european-satellite
the antartic is being decimated.
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looks like nasa is in on the hoax too :o
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2014-281
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Wiggs & his bunker is still "winning" ;D
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2738653/Stunning-satellite-images-summer-ice-cap-thicker-covers-1-7million-square-kilometres-MORE-2-years-ago-despite-Al-Gore-s-prediction-ICE-FREE-now.html
derp
Keep telling yourself that and keep fucking up the ozone layer you might be dead but your grandchildren will be around to suffer the consequences.
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coach gets punched out at the bar for shooting his mouth off about stuff he knows nothing about.
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Which side are you on?
The side with all the Evidence and Facts and the overwhelming Scientific Consensus. Only a moron would be on the "other side".
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The side with all the Evidence and Facts and the overwhelming Scientific Consensus. Only a moron would be on the "other side".
I take it you're on the AlGore side? LMAO.
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The side with all the Evidence and Facts and the overwhelming Scientific Consensus. Only a moron would be on the "other side".
Coach > PhD Scientists
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Coach > PhD Scientists
I guess all of the scientists that oppose AlGores findings from his left-wing buddies have no PhD's? lol
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I guess all of the scientists that oppose AlGores findings from his left-wing buddies have no PhD's? lol
It does not mean you're right either. You're post implies that you think you're 100% right. Its about critical thinking. Its about weighing both sides. As of now, there are two sides to the debate. Hate to break it to you, but it doesn't mean you're side is correct. All it means is that more work needs to be done to better understand the issue.
But based on my debates with you, you are not too swift to realize that. :-\ :-\
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It does not mean you're right either. You're post implies that you think you're 100% right. Its about critical thinking. Its about weighing both sides. As of now, there are two sides to the debate. Hate to break it to you, but it doesn't mean you're side is correct. All it means is that more work needs to be done to better understand the issue.
But based on my debates with you, you are not too swift to realize that. :-\ :-\
Yes, i noticed you left a tad bitter. lol
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Yes, i noticed you left a tad bitter. lol
I did not leave nowhere a tad bitter. You just don't understand the process of science. You think science is "cut and dry."
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I did not leave nowhere a tad bitter. You just don't understand the process of science. You think science is "cut and dry."
Not true. When it comes to "climate change" (that's what they're calling it this week isn't it?) it's ALWAYS politically tied to the left and yes, it's always political. That being said, the left are propagandist and attempt to use scare tactics to raise taxes to fund their cause. They have little if any credibility.
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Not true. When it comes to "climate change" (that's what they're calling it this week isn't it?) it's ALWAYS politically tied to the left and yes, it's always political. That being said, the left are propagandist and attempt to use scare tactics to raise taxes to fund their cause. They have little if any credibility.
Prove it. Just saying it doesn't make it true. With science, we need something called, "evidence."
Also, denying climate change is politically tied to the right. What's your point?
So, are you saying all researchers who are "left" falsify all their data? Psychologists, engineers, biologists, chemists, physicists? It must be a HUGE conspiracy theory! You hit the nail on the head!
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Prove it. Just saying it doesn't make it true. With science, we need something called, "evidence."
Also, denying climate change is politically tied to the right. What's your point?
So, are you saying all researchers who are "left" falsify all their data? Psychologists, engineers, biologists, chemists, physicists? It must be a HUGE conspiracy theory! You hit the nail on the head!
There is evidence on the otherwise side as well. If "climate change" is politically movtivated on the right, it sure as hell isn't for raising taxes.
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There is evidence on the otherwise side as well. If "climate change" is politically movtivated on the right, it sure as hell isn't for raising taxes.
People have motivates far beyond then what we can imagine or know. Motives are not always externally motivated.
Until you can prove its politically motivated and ALL data is falsified, which means all these professors would lose their positions, you're just "pissing in the wind." A statement like that would need strong evidence that thousands and thousands of professors are purposely falsifying data. Do you really think I am just going to take your word for it? LMAO!!
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(http://toryardvaark.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/climate_scan_consesus.jpg)
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(http://www.icsusa.org/media/pictures/articles/2013-1-1p.png)
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There is evidence on the otherwise side as well. If "climate change" is politically movtivated on the right, it sure as hell isn't for raising taxes.
Yeah its motivated by the notion that there is no need to be responsible for the future. Because either god or the free market will save our asses no matter how badly we fuck with the economy.
Climate change isnt some complex thing to understand.
The process has been happening naturally since the beginning of time.
Its the reason we evolved in the first place.
Its the reason the vikings never took over north america.
Its the reason napoleon never made it to russia.
Its a naturally occurring process but when your dropping 1000000000000 tons of CO2 into the atmosphere its almost certain the rate of the natural process will behave unpredictably.
Its actually an incredible easy thing to understand, if you just focus on the topic for a 2-3 mins, no need for a PHD.
However that is beyond your gerbal-based attention span.
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Yeah its motivated by the notion that there is no need to be responsible for the future. Because either god or the free market will save our asses no matter how badly we fuck with the economy.
Climate change isnt some complex thing to understand.
The process has been happening naturally since the beginning of time.
Its the reason we evolved in the first place.
Its the reason the vikings never took over north america.
Its the reason napoleon never made it to russia.
Its a naturally occurring process but when your dropping 1000000000000 tons of CO2 into the atmosphere its almost certain the rate of the natural process will behave unpredictably.
Its actually an incredible easy thing to understand, if you just focus on the topic for a 2-3 mins, no need for a PHD.
However that is beyond your gerbal-based attention span.
Well there you have it. I'm sure your simplistic findings are in print as we speak in every global warming/climate change, winter, fall, spring and summer journal as we speak. Congrats, you just ended all of the scientific (and political) debate on either side. Prepare for your Nobel Peace Prize on climate change. It's in the mail.
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Well there you have it. I'm sure your simplistic findings are in print as we speak in every global warming/climate change, winter, fall, spring and summer journal as we speak. Congrats, you just ended all of the scientific (and political) debate on either side. Prepare for your Nobel Peace Prize on climate change. It's in the mail.
If you want to prove global warming is fake, go back to school and get a PhD and do your own research. Just stating that liberals are yucky and you hate them does not make global warming false. It doesn't make it true either.
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If you want to prove global warming is fake, go back to school and get a PhD and do your own research. Just stating that liberals are yucky and you hate them does not make global warming false. It doesn't make it true either.
Ok, here's a stone cold fact. Whether you or anyone else thinks this is real or not is irrelevant. Nothing will happen to me, my kid, my kids kids, their kids, their kids kids and on and on and on. Many many many many generations will pass before this shit will be relevant. Come talk to me 200 years from now ::)
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Well there you have it. I'm sure your simplistic findings are in print as we speak in every global warming/climate change, winter, fall, spring and summer journal as we speak. Congrats, you just ended all of the scientific (and political) debate on either side. Prepare for your Nobel Peace Prize on climate change. It's in the mail.
My simplistic explanation is so someone like yourself can understand something.
This isn't some new thing, this is atleast been a topic of a discussion for like a decade now.
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Ok, here's a stone cold fact. Whether you or anyone else thinks this is real or not is irrelevant. Nothing will happen to me, my kid, my kids kids, their kids, their kids kids and on and on and on. Many many many many generations will pass before this shit will be relevant. Come talk to me 200 years from now ::)
We can never predict the future and you're way of thinking is simplistic and idiotic. It doesn't matter if 100 generations will pass before it happens. Or a 1000. If we can prevent something, whether its global warming or any other disaster, we have a responsibility to do so as humans who inhabit the earth.
You only care about you and your family. That is fine. Other people think more globally and long-term about things. If I had the opportunity to prevent something from happening 1000 generations from now, youre damn straight I would take action. Global warming (or any other disaster) may or may not keep occurring 100 generations from now. However, that doesn't stop passionate people who feel a responsibility toward the place they live. That's the difference between you and them.
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My simplistic explanation is so someone like yourself can understand something.
This isn't some new thing, this is atleast been a topic of a discussion for like a decade now.
It's been a topic among the left for 50 fuckkng years. Same ole same ole exept in like 1977 it was "we're all going to freeze to death" now it's "we're going to fry" make up your minds. Damn.
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We can never predict the future and you're way of thinking is simplistic and idiotic. It doesn't matter if 100 generations will pass before it happens. Or a 1000. If we can prevent something, whether its global warming or any other disaster, we have a responsibility to do so as humans who inhabit the earth.
You only care about you and your family. That is fine. Other people think more globally and long-term about things. If I had the opportunity to prevent something from happening 1000 generations from now, youre damn straight I would take action. Global warming (or any other disaster) may or may not keep occurring 100 generations from now. However, that doesn't stop passionate people who feel a responsibility toward the place they live. That's the difference between you and them.
Beyond my grand kids and God willing my great grand kids and great great grand kids. No ones input from today will make a damn bit of difference because we will all be dead. Harsh yes but it's the truth.
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It's been a topic among the left for 50 fuckkng years. Same ole same ole exept in like 1977 it was "we're all going to freeze to death" now it's "we're going to fry" make up your minds. Damn.
You realize that scientists rarely ever make up their minds. The process of science is about learning and discovering new things. You can't tell a scientists to "make up their mind." It does not work that way. What you believe one minute, can be false the next minute. If scientists just made up their mind and stopped at that, we would never discover anything new.
You really know nothing about the process of science.
You seriously can't be this science illiterate. YOU HAVE TO BE TROLLIN' Please tell me you're trollin'
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Beyond my grand kids and God willing my great grand kids and great great grand kids. No ones input from today will make a damn bit of difference because we will all be dead. Harsh yes but it's the truth.
Really? Then how come we are still pondering and using ideas from philosophers who lived 500+ years ago? In fact, many philosophers who have stated things in the past were remarkable accurate. The input from the Ancient Greeks continues to influence all different branches of academia in the 21st century.
How do you explain this? ??? ???
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You realize that scientists rarely ever make up their minds. The process of science is about learning and discovering new things. You can't tell a scientists to "make up their mind." It does not work that way. What you believe one minute, can be false the next minute. If scientists just made up their mind and stopped at that, we would never discover anything new.
You really know nothing about the process of science.
You seriously can't be this science illiterate. YOU HAVE TO BE TROLLIN' Please tell me you're trollin'
I understand nothing is absolute but there has to be some level of commonsense. Unfortunately science does not teach commonsense.
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Really? Then how come we are still pondering and using ideas from philosophers who lived 500+ years ago? In fact, many philosophers who have stated things in the past were remarkable accurate. The input from the Ancient Greeks continues to influence all different branches of academia in the 21st century.
How do you explain this? ??? ???
I get that. But as much as you might deny it, this is mostly about political persuasion rather than science, why else would AlGore be the talking head for the "global warming" science community?? I'll pick this up tomorrow. Going to bed.
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I get that. But as much as you might deny it, this is mostly about political persuasion rather than science, why else would AlGore be the talking head for the "global warming" science community?? I'll pick this up tomorrow. Going to bed.
So, now youre saying that political persuasion wont matter in the long run because we will all be dead? What about the constitution? The constitution is the backbone of the USA. We didn't disregard it because its a few hundred years old.
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I understand nothing is absolute but there has to be some level of commonsense. Unfortunately science does not teach commonsense.
Are you saying that scientists do not have common sense because they cannot agree upon something? You realize that great ideas often come about when scientists disagree with each other. Many different disciplines are riddled with scientists who disagreed with each other; thus causing one scientists to develop his own theory, and someone else then disagreed with him and built on his theory, etc.
Common sense has little to do with anything, though common sense is helpful. But really all that matters is EVIDENCE. What you can prove with EXPERIMENTATION. Do you expect a scientist to say, "Well, I am right because that's common sense?" Seriously? Other scientists would say, "Prove it."
Are you done? lol Seriously, and I am not being mean, but I feel like I am arguing with a 7th grader about the basic tenets of science. They teach this stuff in junior highschool. You really lack an understanding of anything that is science. When I was teaching my little cousin about science, we had a similar conversation. I had to explain similar things that I am explaining to you, i.e., the process of science, etc.
ps - I believe you meant to write some level of "CONSENSUS." Not, some level of "COMMON SENSE." The latter makes absolutely no sense.
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We can never predict the future and you're way of thinking is simplistic and idiotic. It doesn't matter if 100 generations will pass before it happens. Or a 1000. If we can prevent something, whether its global warming or any other disaster, we have a responsibility to do so as humans who inhabit the earth.
You only care about you and your family. That is fine. Other people think more globally and long-term about things. If I had the opportunity to prevent something from happening 1000 generations from now, youre damn straight I would take action. Global warming (or any other disaster) may or may not keep occurring 100 generations from now. However, that doesn't stop passionate people who feel a responsibility toward the place they live. That's the difference between you and them.
That's nice but the effects are already happening. Mega droughts, vegetation migration, mass extinction of animals.
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I understand nothing is absolute but there has to be some level of commonsense. Unfortunately science does not teach commonsense.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
This is the quote of the decade "unfortunately science does not teach commonsense".
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On getbig, the meltdowns are always real.
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Coach getting his daily dose of scientific info from Daily Mail, oh brother...
I think it has more to do with picking on the democrats / Gore..
Obama should be next in 3,2,1
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That's nice but the effects are already happening. Mega droughts, vegetation migration, mass extinction of animals.
I realize that. I was just making the point that, in my opinion, we have a responsibility toward the place we inhabit.
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My question is this. Why is Getbig so stupid on issues where the evidence is overwhelming on one side and an insanely broad consensus has been reached?
Why would you put your stock in 1-2 percent deniers vs 98-99 percent evidence based data supporters? ???
Getbig stupidity never ceases to amaze me.
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Are you saying that scientists do not have common sense because they cannot agree upon something? You realize that great ideas often come about when scientists disagree with each other. Many different disciplines are riddled with scientists who disagreed with each other; thus causing one scientists to develop his own theory, and someone else then disagreed with him and built on his theory, etc.
Common sense has little to do with anything, though common sense is helpful. But really all that matters is EVIDENCE. What you can prove with EXPERIMENTATION. Do you expect a scientist to say, "Well, I am right because that's common sense?" Seriously? Other scientists would say, "Prove it."
Are you done? lol Seriously, and I am not being mean, but I feel like I am arguing with a 7th grader about the basic tenets of science. They teach this stuff in junior highschool. You really lack an understanding of anything that is science. When I was teaching my little cousin about science, we had a similar conversation. I had to explain similar things that I am explaining to you, i.e., the process of science, etc.
ps - I believe you meant to write some level of "CONSENSUS." Not, some level of "COMMON SENSE." The latter makes absolutely no sense.
Totally irrelevant because there is a 98 percent consensus. There is no debate.
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I realize that. I was just making the point that, in my opinion, we have a responsibility toward the place we inhabit.
I agree.
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Totally irrelevant because there is a 98 percent consensus. There is no debate.
I agree. I was just trying to pander to Coach, ya know. :-\ :-\
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My question is this. Why is Getbig so stupid on issues where the evidence is overwhelming on one side and an insanely broad consensus has been reached?
Why would you put your stock in 1-2 percent deniers vs 98-99 percent evidence based data supporters? ???
Getbig stupidity never ceases to amaze me.
The answer is simple...
Money and politics.
Too many shitbag politicians use it as a way to fund their cronies through fear mongering, and when that kind of shit blows open, it automatically marginalizes the science behind it, especially in cases like the one where the group had faked the data....
These small events make people instantly sideline it as bullshit political agendas to line politicians friends pockets.
It makes everything suspect to people and therefore they put it all in the same category....
Phoney science driven by and for one purpose - Money and power.
Whether its true or not, thats how it becomes viewed by those who are skeptical. They see it as a fraud that politicians have discovered tbey can leverage to line thwir pockets and their friends pockets... because they do.
You can thank the politicians and the phoney 'green energy' companies (i know there are legit ones) for marginalizing climate science IMHO
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The answer is simple...
Money and politics.
Too many shitbag politicians use it as a way to fund their cronies through fear mongering, and when that kind of shit blows open, it automatically marginalizes the science behind it, especially in cases like the one where the group had faked the data....
These small events make people instantly sideline it as bullshit political agendas to line politicians friends pockets.
It makes everything suspect to people and therefore they put it all in the same category....
Phoney science driven by and for one purpose - Money and power.
Whether its true or not, thats how it becomes viewed by those who are skeptical. They see it as a fraud that politicians have discovered tbey can leverage to line thwir pockets and their friends pockets... because they do.
You can thank the politicians and the phoney 'green energy' companies (i know there are legit ones) for marginalizing climate science IMHO
Put all that aside and examine the raw data in a meta-analysis and there is only one conclusion. Its hilarious to think people actually believe there is a giant conspiracy among scientists. The aggregate data is bulletproof.
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(http://www.icsusa.org/media/pictures/articles/2013-1-1p.png)
So what? The whole world were once convinced the earth was flat. Just because everyone believe something doesn't make it true. I mean, look at this religion bullshit
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So what? The whole world were once convinced the earth was flat. Just because everyone believe something doesn't make it true. I mean, look at this religion bullshit
The whole word was not convinced the earth was flat, and the ones that were convinced believed with lack of evidence. The same is true of religion, believing blindly with a lack of evidence.
Guess what, the same is essentially true with climate change deniers (a little worse actually) , believing the opposite conclusion in lieu of mountains of evidence.
Ignorance is simply believing something without any knowledge on the subject. Stupidity is believing something despite the overwhelming evidence and consensus. Why you want to be either is beyond me.
It makes no difference though, because the good thing about Science is that its true whether you believe it or not.