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Title: Alexander Overeem
Post by: a_pupil on September 06, 2014, 01:57:19 PM


Lol

A lot of people thought fedor was ducking him and he would destroy every hw in the ufc
Title: Re: Alexander Overeem
Post by: smoothasf on September 06, 2014, 02:40:52 PM
Overeem sucks , ubereem is unstoppable
Title: Re: Alexander Overeem
Post by: gmflex on September 06, 2014, 03:24:46 PM
Dana white will cut him if he loses again..
If he hasn't cut him already...
Not worth the $200,000+ he is getting paid just to show up.
Title: Re: Alexander Overeem
Post by: chixlegs on September 06, 2014, 03:44:44 PM
He's toast now that the fighters can't use TRT anymore.  He's soft.  Christ he barely got punched by Rothwell and it was over.  His test levels must be in his boots.

On an aside, that display from Tito Ortiz and Stefan Bonner was just bizarre.  The whole trash talking thing, it looked so staged and fake.  i can't believe people even pay to see Tito fight anymore.  That was all from Bellator, not UFC, I was watching them both last night.
Title: Re: Alexander Overeem
Post by: Mrdibbs on September 06, 2014, 03:45:34 PM
Overeem renegotiated before the fight. Did get the benefit of the doubt after the convincing Mir fight. I''ll laugh if he grinded out another 5 fight deal at 400k per fight. Sad to see him get put to sleep everytime though.

In mma its very hard to become (and stay champ without a chin though). That's why i also don't believe in Velasquez. You can technically be as good as you want. If a big heavyweight will take 4 to deliver one you''ll hit the pavement sooner or later.

Title: Re: Alexander Overeem
Post by: Hulkotron on September 06, 2014, 03:46:24 PM
"Alistair Overeem" = "I'll stare over him" = Falcon by KO within two rounds.
Title: Re: Alexander Overeem
Post by: Kwon_2 on September 06, 2014, 04:31:45 PM
Do you have the link?

LOL its just like Wrestling

Check out that masked fighter


Title: Re: Alexander Overeem
Post by: WalterWhite on September 06, 2014, 04:39:09 PM
LOL its just like Wrestling

Check out that masked fighter




Some guys just don't know when to retire. ::)

Title: Re: Alexander Overeem
Post by: TEMPER on September 06, 2014, 04:39:34 PM
LOL its just like Wrestling

Check out that masked fighter




lol I take it Bellator is owned by Vince McMahon?
Title: Re: Alexander Overeem
Post by: Costanza on September 06, 2014, 11:31:41 PM
Falcon would smash the steroid eating phaggot.
Title: Re: Alexander Overeem
Post by: kreator on September 07, 2014, 02:02:05 AM
low IQ related to watching this sport?
Title: Re: Alexander Overeem
Post by: gracie bjj on September 07, 2014, 02:48:21 AM
cant really blame guys like rampage and tito tho, if an orginization is gonna pay them big bucks to come fight why not? bellator and WSOF is for the guys who got CUT from the UFC or are newbs trying to work their way up to the UFC,the UFC is every fighters dream.tito still got some fight left in him as well as rampage, ofcoarse they aint what they where 10 yrs ago but who is?u guys think jon jones or cain valasquez r still gonna be fighting the way they do in 10 plus yrs from now? cause thats when tito had the belt,back in 99 to about to 2003,thats the longest anyones ever held the belt in the 205 lb class,i do take into consideration that tito took time off for acting tho while he had the belt which forced dana to give chuck the interim belt cause chuck was the #1 contender,then chuck lost to randy and tito lost to randy also.
Title: Re: Alexander Overeem
Post by: Radical Plato on September 07, 2014, 03:05:35 AM
Overeem renegotiated before the fight. Did get the benefit of the doubt after the convincing Mir fight. I''ll laugh if he grinded out another 5 fight deal at 400k per fight. Sad to see him get put to sleep everytime though.

In mma its very hard to become (and stay champ without a chin though). That's why i also don't believe in Velasquez. You can technically be as good as you want. If a big heavyweight will take 4 to deliver one you''ll hit the pavement sooner or later.


I don't know, Velasquez has been in there with some big big hitters.  It helps if you can avoid getting hit hard, which he does well.  And Dos Santos could knock almost anyone out if he lands a good shot, regardless of how good their chin was.
Title: Re: Alexander Overeem
Post by: gracie bjj on September 07, 2014, 03:45:02 AM
Overeem renegotiated before the fight. Did get the benefit of the doubt after the convincing Mir fight. I''ll laugh if he grinded out another 5 fight deal at 400k per fight. Sad to see him get put to sleep everytime though.

In mma its very hard to become (and stay champ without a chin though). That's why i also don't believe in Velasquez. You can technically be as good as you want. If a big heavyweight will take 4 to deliver one you''ll hit the pavement sooner or later.



i hear u about the glass jaw n all but some fighters like bellator champ eddie alvarez gets dropped in almost everyone of his fights but RECOVERS quick,thats the key word here,RECOVER. CAIN doesnt have the greatest jaw maybe but like u said in the HW division anyone can get dropped just like that,cain knocked dossantos on his ass multiple times in their last 2 fights, it doesnt mean dos has a glass jaw its just them guys hit so hard. TITO has been known to get rocked also but he RECOVERED really well, its all about RECOVERING fast enough before the other guy can swarm u n put u out before u can RECOVER,then its a problem,but if u can RECOVER SUPER FAST u will b ok
Title: Re: Alexander Overeem
Post by: Royalty on September 07, 2014, 04:13:39 AM
That was a bizarre dance that Ben Rothwell did in the Octogon after the fight.
Title: Re: Alexander Overeem
Post by: bigmc on September 07, 2014, 04:15:04 AM
hw much is tito getting a fight at bellator

I heard 50k must be more than that
Title: Re: Alexander Overeem
Post by: Radical Plato on September 07, 2014, 04:44:39 AM
That was a bizarre dance that Ben Rothwell did in the Octogon after the fight.
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Title: Re: Alexander Overeem
Post by: Royalty on September 07, 2014, 04:50:41 AM
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HaHa yes!!
Title: Re: Alexander Overeem
Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 07, 2014, 04:56:28 AM

HaHa yes!!

Exhibit A of why white guys shouldn't dance.
Title: Re: Alexander Overeem
Post by: Mrdibbs on September 07, 2014, 05:33:12 AM
I don't know, Velasquez has been in there with some big big hitters.  It helps if you can avoid getting hit hard, which he does well.  And Dos Santos could knock almost anyone out if he lands a good shot, regardless of how good their chin was.

He was in there with heavy handed guys yes. If he can execute his swarming strategy without taking any shots hell be fine (Silva, dos santos 2 and 3). He was in a whole world of trouble against Kongo (but recovered). The first junior fight in my opinion shows what kindoff wood he's made of. Heavy's like Fedor and JDS (carwin for as long as it lasted) will keep coming at you untill they die. Jon Jones, same wood. Bloody/broken nosed, gassed, they have a supreme survival instinct which i have yet to see in Cain.

I put cain in the same category as Overeem and Arlovski; great technical strikers but not that survival instinct. They get clocked>they give up or can't anymore.

I bet that if he was a little more active he wouldn't be champ anymore.
Title: Re: Alexander Overeem
Post by: Mrdibbs on September 07, 2014, 05:35:19 AM
i hear u about the glass jaw n all but some fighters like bellator champ eddie alvarez gets dropped in almost everyone of his fights but RECOVERS quick,thats the key word here,RECOVER. CAIN doesnt have the greatest jaw maybe but like u said in the HW division anyone can get dropped just like that,cain knocked dossantos on his ass multiple times in their last 2 fights, it doesnt mean dos has a glass jaw its just them guys hit so hard. TITO has been known to get rocked also but he RECOVERED really well, its all about RECOVERING fast enough before the other guy can swarm u n put u out before u can RECOVER,then its a problem,but if u can RECOVER SUPER FAST u will b ok

Very true, don't think Cain has that. Add Nick Diaz to that list as well. The way he got dropped against Daley and came back, man.
Title: Re: Alexander Overeem
Post by: Marty Champions on September 07, 2014, 06:26:40 AM
"Alistair Overeem" = "I'll stare over him" = Falcon by KO within two rounds.

no its "all lies stare over him" referrring to his denying of steroids
Title: Re: Alexander Overeem
Post by: gracie bjj on September 07, 2014, 06:53:33 AM
He was in there with heavy handed guys yes. If he can execute his swarming strategy without taking any shots hell be fine (Silva, dos santos 2 and 3). He was in a whole world of trouble against Kongo (but recovered). The first junior fight in my opinion shows what kindoff wood he's made of. Heavy's like Fedor and JDS (carwin for as long as it lasted) will keep coming at you untill they die. Jon Jones, same wood. Bloody/broken nosed, gassed, they have a supreme survival instinct which i have yet to see in Cain.

I put cain in the same category as Overeem and Arlovski; great technical strikers but not that survival instinct. They get clocked>they give up or can't anymore.

I bet that if he was a little more active he wouldn't be champ anymore.

i guess u can look at that in a positive for cain tho that he never had to fight a fight where he was down on the rds and make a comeback,cain was injured in the first fight against dossantos, reason i believe him is because cain destroyed dos santos in the 2nd and 3rd fight without it even being close. everyone always said chuck had a great jaw n he got clocked by franklin n he was out cold,same with rashad,he clocked chuck n knocked him out cold, point is if u get hit good enough it dont matter who u r u wont b able to bounce back n recover.even anderson silva couldnt fight back against chris weidman in the first fight when he got caught on the chin,anderson was out when he hit the ground. randy and vitor who r known for their fighting spirit both been knocked out cold in their careers, no chance to fight back out cold. all im saying is it can happen to anybody
Title: Re: Alexander Overeem
Post by: hardgainerj on September 07, 2014, 07:51:05 AM
i hear u about the glass jaw n all but some fighters like bellator champ eddie alvarez gets dropped in almost everyone of his fights but RECOVERS quick,thats the key word here,RECOVER.
thats doesnt last forever wanderleri and big nog can get kod by the wind now
Title: Re: Alexander Overeem
Post by: The Scott on September 07, 2014, 07:53:36 AM
low IQ related to watching this sport?
 

Hey!  It's still  real to me, dammit!   ;D
Title: Re: Alexander Overeem
Post by: the trainer on September 07, 2014, 10:12:50 AM
I think overeem should go fight in japan cause they dont test for steroids over there so he could go back into beast mode and kick some ass.
Title: Re: Alexander Overeem
Post by: Hulkotron on September 07, 2014, 10:18:46 AM
no its "all lies stare over him" referrring to his denying of steroids

Okay but in general a short man will be savagely beaten by a taller man
Title: Re: Alexander Overeem
Post by: _bruce_ on September 07, 2014, 10:46:50 AM
Overeem should take Alphaville's advice...
Title: Re: Alexander Overeem
Post by: Mrdibbs on September 07, 2014, 03:10:52 PM
i guess u can look at that in a positive for cain tho that he never had to fight a fight where he was down on the rds and make a comeback,cain was injured in the first fight against dossantos, reason i believe him is because cain destroyed dos santos in the 2nd and 3rd fight without it even being close. everyone always said chuck had a great jaw n he got clocked by franklin n he was out cold,same with rashad,he clocked chuck n knocked him out cold, point is if u get hit good enough it dont matter who u r u wont b able to bounce back n recover.even anderson silva couldnt fight back against chris weidman in the first fight when he got caught on the chin,anderson was out when he hit the ground. randy and vitor who r known for their fighting spirit both been knocked out cold in their careers, no chance to fight back out cold. all im saying is it can happen to anybody

You're absolutely right, out cold you can't do jack shit. Can happen to any fighter (look at pacquiao).

It's the reacting to being rocked and wobbled is what makes me doubt Cain. Maybe he knew he wasn't going to do more with his injury and that's why it seemd he gave up. Well'' see sooner or later.
Title: Re: Alexander Overeem
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 07, 2014, 03:15:34 PM
Overeem's time has come and gone. Nobody wants to see him fight anymore. He is done.
Title: Re: Alexander Overeem
Post by: tommywishbone on September 07, 2014, 03:22:46 PM
I don't know, Velasquez has been in there with some big big hitters.  It helps if you can avoid getting hit hard, which he does well.  And Dos Santos could knock almost anyone out if he lands a good shot, regardless of how good their chin was.

And Velasquez was not knocked out by JDS. It was a huge overhand right from JDS that landed above CV's left ear.  I watch Valasquez train often and have spoken with him many times. He said he was wide awake and aware of everything that was happening after JDS hit him but his equilibrium was totally wrecked and he couldn't tell left from right or up from down.  Velasquez has a chin.