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I say 10
Cementing him as the #2 BB of ALL time (which he already is. Met him in person, not at expos or public events, but personally twice now. Once off season once in last 2 weeks -- pre O mode. No stopping this guy. He is THAT far ahead of the competition.
And guess what? He'd challenge Ronnie back in that day
he'd challenge Dorian back in that day
He'd be 2 to Arnold back in that day
it's not about width. This guy is so aesthetic and out of everyone's league with perfect flow
Guess a #. I say TEN; minimum Seven
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Doesn't work that way. People thought Ronnie could win 5 more but injuries go up and drug response goes down. Phil can't continue to balloon up every year without his receptors just being thrashed in about 3-4 more years
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Doesn't work that way. People thought Ronnie could win 5 more but injuries go up and drug response goes down. Phil can't continue to balloon up every year without his receptors just being thrashed in about 3-4 more years
Im....im...im going to have to go with the white devil on this one..yup..yuuup.
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Doesn't work that way. People thought Ronnie could win 5 more but injuries go up and drug response goes down. Phil can't continue to balloon up every year without his receptors just being thrashed in about 3-4 more years
I disagree!
Phil trains LIGHT off video often
He's smart
he cycles as in CRUISES most of the year (no pro does thus anymore... His GENETICS and work ethic-'genetics!- are better.
Also 2014 Phil can stay 2014 Phil and win 10 nobody will touch that
But he will grow. U don't get Phil. Never ever seen as smart or as competitive since Arnold
He's also young
And u didn't guess a # of sandows by retirement blanco!
I say 10
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lol i swear to god i read this and thought you were talking about Phil Jackson.
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Phil is going for 10+, mark my words. Phil "The Gift" Heath ist the man, THE represantative the sport has been waiting for all those years. Phil is the man who took BB to the mainstream.
I mean look at that, a pro BB sharing a poster with David Guetta. Would have been unthinkable with these uncharismatic, dumb meathead like Yates or Coleman all those years b4 ;D
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He'll get to 7
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Im....im...im going to have to go with the white devil on this one..yup..yuuup.
Don't worry I'm not here to be derogatory! Here for discussion!
Please just guess a # of sandows though I'm really interested in that
And why!
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about threefiddy :-*
:-* ;D
Love u
that damned loch monster
At my tree fifty sandows
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I think he will win at least 4.
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Phil is going for 10+, mark my words. Phil "The Gift" Heath ist the man, THE the represantative the sport has been waiting for all those years. Phil is the man who took BB to the mainstream.
I mean look at that, a pro BB sharing a poster with David Guetta. Would have been unthinkable with these uncharismatic, dumb meathead like Yates or Coleman all those years b4 ;D
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=549477.0;attach=577824;image)
YES
Exactly bro
He is what we have been waiting for since dare i say OAK
He CAN take bb main stream
Can the organization and those behind scenes pull strings?
I have a funny fewling Phil can convince them of the direction to go
Starts wurh the Kai phase out
He looks like predator and is too much grapefruit and full potato
Oh and the only part that matters
Nobody want/ his physique
Everyone wants Phil's
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Doesn't work that way. People thought Ronnie could win 5 more but injuries go up and drug response goes down. Phil can't continue to balloon up every year without his receptors just being thrashed in about 3-4 more years
Phil won't get injured. Any small injuries, he'll work around, and he doesn't go heavy enough to tear anything. He'll win as many as he wants. The Q is, how long does he want to put his body thru the kind of chemical rigors that come with the sport at that level. Some people have an amazing ability to withstand it, that constitution, some don't. Some just see the growth of bones and organs and decide on a Plan B early. Others just stay on the gas.
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I think he will win at least 4.
Lol
Love the wording
At least four I agree...
At least seven is fact to me
God tells me in 10 years he'll have 14
I believe it
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Phil won't get injured. Any small injuries, he'll work around, and he doesn't go heavy enough to tear anything. He'll win as many as he wants. The Q is, how long does he want to put his body thru the kind of chemical rigors that come with the sport at that level. Some people have an amazing ability to withstand it, that constitution, some don't. Some just see the growth of bones and organs and decide on a Plan B early. Others just stay on the gas.
GREAT question
why is Phil always smiling and looking so healthy (and no homo but handsome also)
Unlike Ruhl (:
Kai (being serious now Ruhl is just ... Ruhl)
Branch
Wolf even gets that weird redness but looks in OK health OFF season I sadly have to say he's at the end of competing. Now tho . Just have a feelin
Wolf #2 this year and man I WIsH he had had an oppurtunity to get one sandow pre Phil dynasty
But he wasnt there yet
He's such a nice person (In person)
And yes Phil trains smart and has MJ / Kobe / Oak like smarts and competitive insanely competitive
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2 more.
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2 more.
Nothing is obligating anyone to do this
But please elaborate with why...
Cause this seems outlandish to me.. 2? He has 2014 in his bag already so you're really saying 1?
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Phil is 34 right now and as we've seen the best in the world begin to break down even if they look INCREDIBLE now.
If Phil is smart he'll keep his body healthy, but everyone thought the same of Jay and he began to break down.
I think at 34 Phil can win another 3 titles if he stays healthy, but if history is any indicator his body will succumb to the toll of training, dieting, drugging, traveling, etc.....athletes don't last forever. It's always those late 30s that things begin to turn for even worldclass physiques.
He's in his prime right now and enjoying it, but the inevitable tipping point looms. I hope he stays healthy and exits on top with no serious injury.
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Phil is 34 right now and as we've seen the best in the world begin to break down even if they look INCREDIBLE now.
If Phil is smart he'll keep his body healthy, but everyone thought the same of Jay and he began to break down.
I think at 34 Phil can win another 3 titles if he stays healthy, but if history is any indicator his body will succumb to the toll of training, dieting, drugging, traveling, etc.....athletes don't last forever. It's always those late 30s that things begin to turn for even worldclass physiques.
He's in his prime right now and enjoying it, but the inevitable tipping point looms. I hope he stays healthy and exits on top with no serious injury.
34, i thought 32
well i said 7-10. i stay at ten, i really really really believe he could win 13-14 though (seriously)
i DO know the younger crop coming up
and i do NOT think they have IT
Phil as a NATURAL (true natural in D1 denver and then the couple years after) was MIND BLOWING
even jay cutler said "he's the future" (do the google search yourselves i'm in a rush to the gym then gotta get my fuck on and take a shower and stuff)
he's an inspiration to me, because i know for a FACT that he cruises- on scale, meaning his blasts are bigger than ours and his cruises are bigger than ours- but he does NOT blast alll year! HE is smart! i have spoken to him about training !
he said osmething like "muscle is all about time under tension"
meaning. 25 reps 50 reps FUCK BRO SCIENCE
on gear and training smart throw 8-12 reps for HYPERTROPHY 6 rep fort STRENGTH out window
TRAIN WITH YOUR MIND AND TRUST YOURSELF
NEVER LISTEN TO ANYBODY BECAUSE IN THIS INDUSTRY EVERYONE LIES ESPECAILLY FACELESS ONES ON INTERNET, AND MOST OF ALL WORK YOUR BUTT OFF
AND BLAST/CRUISE (DON'T "cycle". Avoid that part of the trial and error in this game. hrt doses can be great cruise doses and pose zero health risk only health benefits) AND DIET SMART
LASTLY, I FORGOT THIS, BUT I HAVE TO SAY IT: SMILE. ALL DAY. DON'T GET BIG AND BE MEAN. SMILE. PROVE EVERYONE WRONG. BE HAPPY. AND THE WAY TO BE HAPPIEST IS BY GIVING BACK. TO YOUR STATE COMMUNITY COUNTRY NEIGHBORHOOD DOG SHELTER WHATEVER. GIVE BACK WHENEVER YOU CAN. IT FEELS DAMNED GOOD
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Nothing is obligating anyone to do this
But please elaborate with why...
Cause this seems outlandish to me.. 2? He has 2014 in his bag already so you're really saying 1?
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In 2016, Phil suffers from a kidney infection which requires him to be put on dialysis, he had since become retired and pushes his brand, Gifted Nutrition. In 2017, Big Ramy becomes Mr. Olympia only to lose the title when he dies from cardiac arrest in early 2018. In 2018 the Mr. Olympia name is sold to the Arabic bodybuilding federation (AFI), as more men take up bodybuilding, it took a toll on the economical market and oil embargo in Saudi Arabia, oil prices spike due to increases in the amount synthol sold. In 2020, bodybuilding resumes under "Mr. World" (AFI Mr.World), but the contest fails when the winner of the pageant ("Bigger" Ramy) (PIP) dies of cardiac arrest on stage.
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about 25 sandows
greatest bb ever and no one will ever be better
width ain't a thing
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In 2016, Phil suffers from a kidney infection which requires him to be put on dialysis, he had since become retired and pushes his brand, Gifted Nutrition. In 2017, Big Ramy becomes Mr. Olympia only to lose the title when he dies from cardiac arrest in early 2018. In 2018 the Mr. Olympia name is sold to the Arabic bodybuilding federation (AFI), as more men take up bodybuilding, it took a toll on the economical market and oil embargo in Saudi Arabia, oil prices spike due to increases in the amount synthol sold. In 2020, bodybuilding resumes under "Mr. World" (AFI Mr.World), but the contest fails when the winner of the pageant ("Bigger" Ramy) (PIP) dies of cardiac arrest on stage.
just no. fuck off.
negativity only goes well when it's mixed with humor and good writing.
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all contest, whether its on the pro level or just state competitions r all determined by how deep the class is that year.just like the nationals,some guys place 5th one year n then comeback the next and win the whole show,reason being the year he placed 5th how a sick class with awesome guys that year,the following year it wasnt deep at all. arnold had lou and franco chasing him,zane had robby and mentzer,haney had gaspari,labrada,taylor ect,yates had flex,levrone,nasser,ronnie had pretty much same guys as yates chasing him. heath has some really good guys chasing him n once phils body does a victor martinez n the receptors shut down its all over,hes getting up there in age as well so we shall see
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all contest, whether its on the pro level or just state competitions r all determined by how deep the class is that yearcock goes into the head judge.just like the nationals,some guys place 5th one year n then comeback the next and win the whole show,reason being the year he placed 5th how a sick class with awesome guys going in deep under coverthat year,the following year it wasnt deep at all. arnold had lou and franco chasing him,zane had robby and mentzer,haney had gaspari,labrada,taylor ect,yates had flex,levrone,nasser,ronnie had pretty much same guys as yates chasing him. heath has some really good guys chasing him n once phils body does a victor martinez n the receptors shut down its all over,hes getting up there in age as well so we shall see
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Ronnie won his first at 34. Phil isn't Jay, he wasn't juicing at 17-18 he started a little later. I can't see anyone at the top now beating him, Wolf should have last year (and come at least 2nd in 2007 behind Victor) and they didn't even put him second so they clearly won't give it to him no matter what he looks like. Ramy needs more quality and to be more ripped to beat Phil, maybe downsize his quads a bit too, if it's judged on Physique alone.
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For some reason I have 7 in my head could be less could be more. Who knows life is funny anything can happen.
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this fella might have something to say about any '10 sandows'
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Phil absolutely destroys Kai Greene but I think you guys need to cool it on mocking Kai so much
just because he sold his body for cash doesnt mean he's not a frightening mountain of mass and power
in real life none of you would have the ballz to go up to him and make grapefruit towel jokes
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I guess the main question is who will beat him? There seems to be him, Kai, maybe wold and Big Ramse but that's about it. Everyone else is a second tier compared to them. Who is the heir apparent? Who's the 25 year old who will be Mr. O in 4 years?
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Ronnie won his first at 34. Phil isn't Jay, he wasn't juicing at 17-18 he started a little later. I can't see anyone at the top now beating him, Wolf should have last year (and come at least 2nd in 2007 behind Victor) and they didn't even put him second so they clearly won't give it to him no matter what he looks like. Ramy needs more quality and to be more ripped to beat Phil, maybe downsize his quads a bit too, if it's judged on Physique alone.
AGREED with everything except the statement that Wolf should have beat Phil last year... Sorry but I respect your opinion on this, and you CLEARLY know what you're talking about here, because I actually believe in 2007 he possibly should have won it all. Then Victor... I spoke with him at evas... that knee injury really took a number on him then the restaraunt being taken and the money and the child support... God speed to victor. Terrible circumstances to an actually great person and muscle maker grill was amazing anda staple of ny and nj . even competitor evas suported him and vice versa. vic was ALWAYS in evas when i worked there. this is one reason i've met every pro but rami. and i don't know if we speak teh same langu'age literally . he is at 18 year old arnold stage now with english right? he'll get better he's smart
the threat lis if ifbb doesn't get smarter...
well let's put it this way. Rami IS ON SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN EVERYONE ELSE
and the middle east is a HUGE market. with some talent. and rami is a straight male. that i know. he does no g4p.
the threat is if the ifbb doesn't smarten up and main stream the sport (if this happens it will be Phil 1 Wolf 2 for a few years then rami develops and eventually gets gift of 1 OR phil gets injured (god forbid.. knock on wood.. ) and rami takes it. in hypothetical main stream situyation. first th;ing is they have to fix the pro tan situation and the trunks. ghave to go bakc to 74
have to take out pre judging
have to take out all judges
replace with a different style. consult oak.
actually, s hit.. put it in oaks hands.
look at what musscle pharm just did w the arnoldl line... it's HUGE and he hasn't competeted since..........
no flash in the pan there no ZYZZ. oak lives on forever and knew what he was doing and is an icon. too bad the game changed due to political and dark influences like underground g4p and lack of sponsors becauyse sponsors don't wanna touch a sport with g4p and those trunks and that pro tan. it's a vicous cycle
need to end it. need to appeal to main stream heterosexual males (and STILL the gay guys will love it) and MOST IMPORTANTLY the straight females
make a special shout out to the LGBT community to get the lesbians involved too
If they don't, a middle east take over will happen to IFBB.
TRUST ME. Rami is very smart. Watch. his camp is on point. he is on point . he does NO drugs. No alcoho0l. i have heard he is VERY smart. he also found a new exotic -- like an untouched before exotic not a mix -- in conjunction with something analgous to the GREAT REVEAL of IGFLR3 a few years back in \conjunction with slin and hgh
this isn't genetics. it i's partially. but rami is on someth;ing that everyone else will find in a few years
and PHIL DOESN'T NEED
PHIL IS THE GIFT. THE FUTURE. LET'S MAINSTREAM THE SPORT SO IT DOESN't GET TAKEN TO THE MIDDLE EAST.
THEN WE WON'T HAVE TO JOKE ABOUT CNN BREAKING HEADLINE NEWS
IT WILL BE REAL.
BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE ACTUALLY INTERESTED IN OAK BACK IN HIS COMPETITION DAYS LOOK AT HIS MOVIE CAREER THEN NOW.... CNN WAS BREAKING HEADLINES ON HIS WINS LOL.
PHIL NEEDS TO SPEAK UP. A SPONSOR NEEDS TO STEP UP WITH LEVERAGE MONEY. SAYING I WILL GIVE YOU X AMOUNT IF YOU CHANGE SPORT. IT'S ALREADY POLITICAL. THE FACT THAT THE UNDERGROUND G4P RUNS IT IS AWFUL. THE SPONSORS SHOULD BE REAL. FUCK THIS SUCK A DICK TO MAKE IT TO THE TOP SHIT. THAT's FOR HOLLYWOOD STARLETS.
TIME TO TAKE BACK BODYBUILD. OR ELSE IT GETS TAKEN TO MIDDLE EAST.
WATCH
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Phil absolutely destroys Kai Greene but I think you guys need to cool it on mocking Kai so much
just because he sold his body for cash doesnt mean he's not a frightening mountain of mass and power
in real life none of you would have the ballz to go up to him and make grapefruit towel jokes
i actually would
i genuinely do not like kai
i have met him a few times back in 2009-2012
i hate the way he speaks it's very pretentious
he makes ZERO eye contact with people when he speaks also
and his physique SUCKS even in real life. He is VERY big but that isn't the fucking goal anabolic and you know this more than anyone. you area ALLL about aesthetics and you cycle SO smart. Kai cycles SO dumb. He did this all wrong. he could have gotten a JOB to pay for his shit like PHIL did. Like Oak did (real estate) like nubret did (side job as a top server at VERY fancy LA restaraunt) .
i would NEVER wanna look like kai
forget race comparisons
imagine all skin is same. blue in this hypothetical. we're all blue. da ba dee da ba die da da ba dee da ba BLUE da be dee da ba die
I"M BLUE
anyone who didn't get that reference must go sit in the basement rocking chair and hum christmas carols off pitch
i wanna look like phil fuck yes. but i wanna keep my height. i really just wanna look like arnold.
but i would trade my body for phils any day despite the hgihgt difference (he's 5'10 i believe or 5'9 based of meeting him and i am 188 cm which is what US calls "LEGIT SIX FOOT TWO. OR BAREFOOT SIX FOOT TWO"
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kai is a scary looking SOB tho
:D
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kai's main and most MASSIVE flaw is the fact his legs are too long for his torso
i CRINGE when clueless neophytes talk about how "insanely low" kai's lat inserts are
no they arent, he just looks like a guy with medium lat tie in depth but a part of his back missing and legs stretched out up to the lats
fucking ridiculous look
the short torso also makes his gut protrude even more pronounced
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kai's main and most MASSIVE flaw is the fact his legs are too long for his torso
i CRINGE when clueless neophytes talk about how "insanely low" kai's lat inserts are
no they arent, he just looks like a guy with medium lat tie in depth but a part of his back missing and legs stretched out up to the lats
fucking ridiculous look
the short torso also makes his gut protrude even more pronounced
Spot on, its his big disadvantage, even as an amateur his waist still had that look. And at close to 300lbs its super hard to keep it small, Kai is doing what he can. For example long torso BB Dennis Wolf, his long torso is helping him hide his gut. Check when he is relaxed, his gut is disgusting, like a big blob, alien stuff.
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Spot on, its his big disadvantage, even as an amateur his waist still had that look. And at close to 300lbs its super hard to keep it small, Kai is doing what he can. For example long torso BB Dennis Wolf, his long torso is helping him hide his gut. Check when he is relaxed, his gut is disgusting, like a big blob, alien stuff.
yup
nothing gets by us armchair bodybuilding analysts
;D
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kai's main and most MASSIVE flaw is the fact his legs are too long for his torso
i CRINGE when clueless neophytes talk about how "insanely low" kai's lat inserts are
no they arent, he just looks like a guy with medium lat tie in depth but a part of his back missing and legs stretched out up to the lats
fucking ridiculous look
the short torso also makes his gut protrude even more pronounced
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ugh. i've been waiting for someone else to say this. check my post history i went into my disagreement with people's assesment re: kai's "GREAT STRUCTURE" before...... like yesterday ..
ALSO his traps SUCK and his legs fuck up his whole flow
he played size game
he lost
he should have relaxed at the end of his G4P days
then he was looking OK and w hair.
now... he fucked up mang. looks TERRIBLE. Palumboism is REALLY KICKING IN ON KAI. So is predator face (that started whenever he jstarted size game and his damned skull grew probably same guru who gave him the fucked up info told him to grow that damned pony tail
now he looks like THE PREDATOR as in predator vs alien, which i think he was going for based on his nick name
and that proves all the more reason why KAI IS ABOUT TO BE PHASED OUT OF IFBB
Kai and Rami are HEAVILY tied into the future of this sport, if they let kai get 2nd this year on gift,..,.. and Rami makes move to take competition to middle east and mainstream where money and new copounds are at,
game changes . game over
if they play this SMART and mainstream it and phase kai out (rightfully as his physique is in the shitter) and do good trunks and change pro tan and appeal to wider demographic meaning straight men and straight WOPMEN
they win win win , fox coverage cnn breaking news REALLY
look at uFc
once upon a time it was NOTHING but niche
someone needs to step the fuck up
or rami takes it all away from US trust me mark my words a
remember these words ppl
thi sis not theory, this is sourced
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Phil has maxed out
his receptors
his physiqe hasnt changed since 2011
its regression from this year on
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Phil has maxed out
his receptors
his physiqe hasnt changed since 2011
its regression from this year on
he looks bigger than ever in that ice dowsing video
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hopefully phil wont have VICTORAWFERISM and start to shrink
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yes phils huge when he's blasting but my point is since 2011 he hasnt improved
he hasnt got bigger or got better quality or condition
he's stayed the same and its only a matter of time before he starts to regress ala everyone else
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AGREED with everything except the statement that Wolf should have beat Phil last year... Sorry but I respect your opinion on this, and you CLEARLY know what you're talking about here, because I actually believe in 2007 he possibly should have won it all. Then Victor... I spoke with him at evas... that knee injury really took a number on him then the restaraunt being taken and the money and the child support... God speed to victor. Terrible circumstances to an actually great person and muscle maker grill was amazing anda staple of ny and nj . even competitor evas suported him and vice versa. vic was ALWAYS in evas when i worked there. this is one reason i've met every pro but rami. and i don't know if we speak teh same langu'age literally . he is at 18 year old arnold stage now with english right? he'll get better he's smart
I think Wolf and Heath should be 1 and 2. I'm a Wolf fan so i think he should be 1 but no problem with Heath winning. It's close between them. Kai didn't come in good enough condition last year, lets face it he doesn't out mass Wolf, Wolf has a better structure and Wolf comes in ripped, Kai is too soft.
Ramy, lets see at the Olympia but so far he's not yet at those guys level. Maybe 2-3 years and he will be unbeatable.