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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: old-school-lifter on September 09, 2014, 04:56:47 PM
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or was it the 91 Haney
or 83 Bannout
or 98 Ronnie
to me, Ronnie 99 will never be surpassed- size, shape and conditioning, no weak points.
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98 was better everyone knows this.
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'74 Arnold, then '98 Coleman
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93 yates ,74 arnold,sergio in 72 even tho he didnt win,he shoulda won i think even tho im a arnold fan
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93 yates 99 ronnie 91 haney (look at his side tri with dorian in dorians dvd) maybe 2011 heath. Different sizes and shapes and I am not joking with 2011 heath he was a fucking freak.
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Yes
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except for his oversized buttocks and general stomach distention ronal was perfect
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I think Rons best showing was 2001 AC
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8007/7354453220_7d1b697f77.jpg)
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I think Rons best showing was 2001 AC
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8007/7354453220_7d1b697f77.jpg)
he once said so himself that he thought it was his best show
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except for his oversized buttocks and general stomach distention ronal was perfect
Don't forget these ;D
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Don't forget these ;D
;D well yes but everything else was glory upon glory
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I think Rons best showing was 2001 AC
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8007/7354453220_7d1b697f77.jpg)
I think this and 98 are basically interchangeable.
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93/96ggp Dorian
98 Ronnaldo Coleman
74 Arnold Schwarzenegger.
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98 was better everyone knows this.
I've heard Ronnie say best "condition" ever in 1998 and 2001 AC. Do you think he just means conditioning or his physique as a whole? Because he has flip flopped on saying this between two contests (1998 Mr. Olympia & 2001 AC).
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lol really @ the question
74 arnold period
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I've heard Ronnie say best "condition" ever in 1998 and 2001 AC. Do you think he just means conditioning or his physique as a whole? Because he has flip flopped on saying this between two contests (1998 Mr. Olympia & 2001 AC).
I think as far as acual judging criteria goes, that 98 fits the best of any of them. His gut was under better control, and he was just as big and dry as 01.
I tend to think if 01 as trying to recreate 98.
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98 Coleman or 91 Haney
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Link won't imbed, but this guy was pretty good.
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That year Ronnie had remarked that he felt like he was gonna die. In a word diuretics.
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I love ronnie in this condition, when you say mountain of muscle ronnie is what comes to mind.
(http://monstersupplements.com/resource/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/RC2.jpg)
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93 yates 74 arnold, 83 bannout
flex wheeler 93 arnold
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Jay Cutler 2009 Olympia.
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to be fair, Ronnie's calves were huge in person
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Arnold Alois 1973.
Ronnie 1997 he took 9th for having Wolfs size calves that year, But the rest of him was probably the best ever
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93 yates 74 arnold, 83 bannout
flex wheeler 93 arnold
I would've mentioned Flex 93 ASC but thread title is Olympia stage ;D
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to be fair, Ronnie's calves were huge in person
Doesnt matter, its not how big they are by themselves, its how big they appear in proportion to the rest of him.
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98 or 99 it was still close between him and the other guys. 03 was a whole new standard for Pro BB at this time.
(http://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-9/10271634_10152349792699621_4060702886597941717_n.jpg)
(http://scontent-b-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/10155209_10152351698434621_8146314807090369330_n.jpg)
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Jay Cutler 2009 Olympia.
Good call, Jay was awesome that year.
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Flex 98 Arnold.
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Ronnie 2003, took the sport forward 10 years. No question. The other outstanding years were Dorian in 93 and Jay in 2009.
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'74 Arnold and '93 Yates are up there, not others... In terms of overall completness, Coleman at his best is the greatest...
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Doesnt matter, its not how big they are by themselves, its how big they appear in proportion to the rest of him.
Not a fan of big calves and Dorians matching his hams and quads looks blocky. Imo that's not a proportional look.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=318918.0;attach=358055;image)
To be fair his close stand doesn't help but still his calves almost overpower upper legs.
This looks proportional legs to me:
(http://i.imgur.com/1IlCU16.jpg)
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It is a matter of opinion but I am one of those that
believe a 1999 Olympia RC was the best bodybuilding
physique to ever grace a stage.
In 1998 he was very conditioned but he was just a bit flat
according to McGough.
In 99 he was fuller which made him appear like an anatomy chart.
In 2001 (ASC) he had paper thin skin but lost a good 10+ pounds of muscle
to reach that condition but fuller than 1998.
My personal preference would be a 1973 Arnold but being realistic here.
1999 vs 2001
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This picture comparing Kai Greene and Ronnie 2001
really shows Ronnie's incredible condition in 2001.
You will have to see it full size to see how much thinner
Ronnie's onion skin is compared to one of Kai's best
conditions to appreciate how ripped he was.
Not one of RC's best poses but he is skinless almost.
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3761363&d=1317749838)
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Flex 98 Arnold.
New camcorder footage from the 98 Arnold.
This or the 1993 ASC are considered his best.
He was 232 in 98 compared to 218 in 1993.
Flex said he was 238 but I don't think so.
He didn't start hitting the oil in the shoulders heavy
until 1999 trying to size up with Ronnie.
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It is a matter of opinion but I am one of those that
believe a 1999 Olympia RC was the best bodybuilding
physique to ever grace a stage.
In 1998 he was very conditioned but he was just a bit flat
according to McGough.
In 99 he was fuller which made him appear like an anatomy chart.
In 2001 (ASC) he had paper thin skin but lost a good 10+ pounds of muscle
to reach that condition but fuller than 1998.
My personal preference would be a 1973 Arnold but being realistic here.
1999 vs 2001
In 1998 he was very conditioned but he was just a bit flat
according to McGough.
He never said that.
In 2001 (ASC) he had paper thin skin but lost a good 10+ pounds of muscle
to reach that condition but fuller than 1998.
He didn't lose 10+ pounds of muscle in 2001 compared to 1999 , that's not accurate. he weighed less than 1999 but he was full , hard and dry.
2005: Flex: Who else during your time do you think should have won but didn't?
Shawn: I thought you should have won in 1999, because Ronnie had lost something from 1998. I felt for you, when you took the medal off and shook your finger at the crowd. I could see it wasn't Ronnie you were trying to slight. It was the fact that you improved on flaws that Ronnie hadn't. In '98, Ronnie owned it, gyno included. He should have been marked down, but he had taken his physique to another level. In '99, he lost something. Just like you were at your best in '93. Sometimes we hit our peak and it's hard to get that back. That trophy should have been yours. Not because you were a better bodybuilder, but because you were better than Ronnie on that day.
People like the way Ronnie looked better in 1999 but it's blatantly obvious he wasn't as good in 99 as he was in 98/01 specifically because his conditioning was lacking. If Ronnie 1999 Mr Olympia competed against Ronnie 1998/2001 he would have lost to both versions.
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I've heard Ronnie say best "condition" ever in 1998 and 2001 AC. Do you think he just means conditioning or his physique as a whole? Because he has flip flopped on saying this between two contests (1998 Mr. Olympia & 2001 AC).
His physique as a whole. more specifically because of his conditioning was dead on the money in both contests.
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This picture comparing Kai Greene and Ronnie 2001
really shows Ronnie's incredible condition in 2001.
You will have to see it full size to see how much thinner
Ronnie's onion skin is compared to one of Kai's best
conditions to appreciate how ripped he was.
Not one of RC's best poses but he is skinless almost.
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3761363&d=1317749838)
I'm pretty sure that pic of Ronnie is from the 2000 Mr. Olympia.
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Here you go chief...
Peter Mcgough around 8 minutes.
99 was Ronnie's best Olympia
in 98 he was a bit flat - hard, dry all that stuff
but a tad flat.
And Flex winning in 99 is laughable. He's lucky Cormier
didn't get 2nd. Peter says right here 99 was better and Ronnie got straight 1's.
As far as 2001 ASC goes I'm cool with someone liking that look better.
Hell, I'm cool if you like Kenny Jones better. It's just a subjective opinion no matter how
much you believe your right.
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I'm pretty sure that pic of Ronnie is from the 2000 Mr. Olympia.
If your right then Ronnie is a greater freak than I thought because he was 265?
for that show and he looks skinless in that pic.
While we are calling stuff out.
Those 2003 pics are morphed to hell.
Especially the hands on hip MM.
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Here you go chief...
Peter Mcgough around 8 minutes.
99 was Ronnie's best Olympia
in 98 he was a bit flat - hard, dry all that stuff
but a tad flat.
About what time do you know?
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I'm a Ronnie '03 fan.
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Here you go chief...
Peter Mcgough around 8 minutes.
99 was Ronnie's best Olympia
in 98 he was a bit flat - hard, dry all that stuff
but a tad flat.
I remember seeing this video. Peter is right in that Ronnie being fuller in 1999 he had better detail and I also noticed he had better/deeper separation.
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If your right then Ronnie is a greater freak than I thought because he was 265?
for that show and he looks skinless in that pic.
While we are calling stuff out.
Those 2003 pics are morphed to hell.
Especially the hands on hip MM.
I have the magazine and that pic is in the 2000 Mr. Olympia coverage.
LOL I hate when MD chopp pics. It's not like Ronnie needs to be photoshopped. Here is the original.
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About what time do you know?
Around 8 minutes.
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I remember seeing this video. Peter is right in that Ronnie being fuller in 1999 he had better detail and I also noticed he had better/deeper separation.
At the expense of dryness and hardness which exactly why 2001 is considered his best because he was , hard , dry and full. 99 he was fuller but not as hard or as dry
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I have the magazine and that pic is in the 2000 Mr. Olympia coverage.
LOL I hate when MD chopp pics. It's not like Ronnie needs to be photoshopped. Here is the original.
I believe you. I didn't think he was that peeled in 2000. Cool...
Good website by the way.
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At the expense of dryness and hardness which exactly why 2001 is considered his best because he was , hard , dry and full. 99 he was fuller but not as hard or as dry
Can't go wrong with 2001 AC lol, but I prefer the fuller look while still being conditioned rather than being insanely conditioned, but smaller. Just like Phil 2013 compared to 2011. Just my preference.
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At the expense of dryness and hardness which exactly why 2001 is considered his best because he was , hard , dry and full. 99 he was fuller but not as hard or as dry
I agree... just like the overall look, flow and separation of 99 better.
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Can't go wrong with 2001 AC lol, but I prefer the fuller look while still being conditioned rather than being insanely conditioned, but smaller. Just like Phil 2013 compared to 2011. Just my preference.
The AC in my opinion is his best because he's just as conditioned as 98 but he retained his ' fullness ' a tad more which is why they said he looked bigger than his 245-247 lbs suggested. But the point stands if 99 competed against 98/01 he would lose to both.
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I agree... just like the overall look, flow and separation of 99 better.
I think Ronnie looks better fuller , he could carry a good amount of size well but his conditioning ( and later his lines ) suffered for it. If 99 had 01/98s conditioning I would say it was his best.
Quote Peter McGough Flex Magazine Jan 2001
RONNIE COLEMAN : ( 264lbs As big as a house , but holding water. In '98 , he was shredded and bone dry at 250 pounds. Last year ( 1999 ) he was 257 pounds but NOT as sharp as '98. This year ( 2000 ) at 264 pounds , he's not as sharp as 99 , which would seem to say that Ronnie is better at a lighter weight .
You could see his decline in conditioning as the years progressed.
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The AC in my opinion is his best because he's just as conditioned as 98 but he retained his ' fullness ' a tad more which is why they said he looked bigger than his 245-247 lbs suggested. But the point stands if 99 competed against 98/01 he would lose to both.
Firstly, title says "best physique to ever step on the Olympia stage?" - I've now said this two or three times.
Secondly, I don't need an old English schmoe to tell me what the best look is. I can decide for myself. We are treating this like the best physique is something objective. It isn't. A lot of people said Arnold 74 which I find ridiculous but that is up to them. I stick with Haney 91, Dorian 93 (though his 96 gp look was great, not sure on O) and Ronnie 99.
I used to think Ronnie 03 just cos everyone said it and he was 287lbs (therefore better than 250 or whatever in 99) but his back had such crisp detail even in 02 that was lost in 2003. 2005 was better than 2003 imo, hard as mayor of bodybuilding in front row with 2003 size and a smaller waist and a quad sweep that could eclipse the sun.
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Firstly, title says "best physique to ever step on the Olympia stage?" - I've now said this two or three times.
Secondly, I don't need an old English schmoe to tell me what the best look is. I can decide for myself. We are treating this like the best physique is something objective. It isn't. A lot of people said Arnold 74 which I find ridiculous but that is up to them. I stick with Haney 91, Dorian 93 (though his 96 gp look was great, not sure on O) and Ronnie 99.
I used to think Ronnie 03 just cos everyone said it and he was 287lbs (therefore better than 250 or whatever in 99) but his back had such crisp detail even in 02 that was lost in 2003. 2005 was better than 2003 imo, hard as mayor of bodybuilding in front row with 2003 size and a smaller waist and a quad sweep that could eclipse the sun.
Firstly, title says "best physique to ever step on the Olympia stage?" - I've now said this two or three times.
These threads tend to diverge and go off on tangents. I personally think 1998 was his best because he was dead-on the money. 2003 he looked insane but his lines were awful , his gut was crazy and his conditioning paled in comparison to 98 and 99
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These threads tend to diverge and go off on tangents. I personally think 1998 was his best because he was dead-on the money. 2003 he looked insane but his lines were awful , his gut was crazy and his conditioning paled in comparison to 98 and 99
Good I just want your opinion and not Mc Gough's. His writing style is horrendous, he has a selective memory (ignores all his bullshit predictions that never came through) and .... his writing style is horrendous. My 10 year old son has a better grasp of the English language yet Mc Gough holds himself as some wordsmith, a literary pioneer. He's just a schmoe battling his sexual desires and erections to get a few words on the page before he can jerk off to men in thongs.
98/99 were both amazing (no homo), 2003 was crazy but when I look back his back lacked that insane level of detail that made the mass all the more extraordinary. That was Ron's thing - huge, conditioned and crazy separation. As he got to insane sizes he still came in ripped and and obviously huge but some detail was lost. His quads looked like turnips in 03 and 04, in 05 they were great.
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98 > 99 > 01 > 03.
I have SPOKEN!
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Freakiest maybe , best physique ever on the Olympia stage ? not even close .
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mC1TEdZ4gks/SvaAHtWwaKI/AAAAAAAABrs/0cGoNayuskQ/s400/1999-mr-olympia-255_20090921_175074.JPG)
(http://muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=40971&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)
(http://musclemecca.com/imported-images/2008/11/169mavk-1.jpg)
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Freakiest maybe , best physique ever on the Olympia stage ? not even close .
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mC1TEdZ4gks/SvaAHtWwaKI/AAAAAAAABrs/0cGoNayuskQ/s400/1999-mr-olympia-255_20090921_175074.JPG)
(http://muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=40971&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)
(http://musclemecca.com/imported-images/2008/11/169mavk-1.jpg)
why not post his back shots, fdb and front relaxed while tensed? I don't like ronnie's fls if wondering think he should drop chest a bit. Most muscular also missing though not sure if that was mandatory at start of his reign.
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Here you go chief...
Peter Mcgough around 8 minutes.
99 was Ronnie's best Olympia
in 98 he was a bit flat - hard, dry all that stuff
but a tad flat.
And Flex winning in 99 is laughable. He's lucky Cormier
didn't get 2nd. Peter says right here 99 was better and Ronnie got straight 1's.
As far as 2001 ASC goes I'm cool with someone liking that look better.
Hell, I'm cool if you like Kenny Jones better. It's just a subjective opinion no matter how
much you believe your right.
Wonder if he left out Dorian Yates on purpose when talking about those who won the Mr. Olympia several times.
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I think Ronnie looks better fuller , he could carry a good amount of size well but his conditioning ( and later his lines ) suffered for it. If 99 had 01/98s conditioning I would say it was his best.
Quote Peter McGough Flex Magazine Jan 2001
RONNIE COLEMAN : ( 264lbs As big as a house , but holding water. In '98 , he was shredded and bone dry at 250 pounds. Last year ( 1999 ) he was 257 pounds but NOT as sharp as '98. This year ( 2000 ) at 264 pounds , he's not as sharp as 99 , which would seem to say that Ronnie is better at a lighter weight .
You could see his decline in conditioning as the years progressed.
The same can be said about almost every pro-bodybuilder from 1994 and onwards (trying to compete with the likes of Yates).
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The same can be said about almost every pro-bodybuilder from 1994 and onwards (trying to compete with the likes of Yates).
dorian never really sacrificed his conditioning for mass though. Only time it was questionable was 94 and 97 when he was injured. And 97 he was still in condition, he just looked torn up.
Ronnies condition went downhill more and more the heavier he got.
Only in 94 was he watery.
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dorian never really sacrificed his conditioning for mass though. Only time it was questionable was 94 and 97 when he was injured. And 97 he was still in condition, he just looked torn up.
Ronnies condition went downhill more and more the heavier he got.
Only in 94 was he watery.
05 he looked better conditioned that 00-04.
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05 he looked better conditioned that 00-04.
Yes, but thats because he tried to come in smaller and tighter than 04. And there was no going back, when he tried to recreate his 98 form post 06 O loss (07 maybe?) He just looked like ass.
He basically cast aside his shape and conditioning for myscular bulk, and the judges rewarded that because they had never seen that amount of muscle... unfortunately imo he was just a freak shadow of his former self.
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Freakiest maybe , best physique ever on the Olympia stage ? not even close .
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mC1TEdZ4gks/SvaAHtWwaKI/AAAAAAAABrs/0cGoNayuskQ/s400/1999-mr-olympia-255_20090921_175074.JPG)
(http://muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=40971&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)
(http://musclemecca.com/imported-images/2008/11/169mavk-1.jpg)
I have to agree. There's a long list of competitors that I believe looked better
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Yes, but thats because he tried to come in smaller and tighter than 04. And there was no going back, when he tried to recreate his 98 form post 06 O loss (07 maybe?) He just looked like ass.
He basically cast aside his shape and conditioning for myscular bulk, and the judges rewarded that because they had never seen that amount of muscle... unfortunately imo he was just a freak shadow of his former self.
06 he had lat issues but tell me Cutler won on Sat finals - he didn't. I dunno, 05 look was good, aesthetic. But freaky.
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06 he had lat issues but tell me Cutler won on Sat finals - he didn't. I dunno, 05 look was good, aesthetic. But freaky.
well, yeah, i wont argue that... but it was just a shadow of 98-99. Basically he regressed continously after he upped the dose.
05 was acceptable and he soundly beat the competition, but it was far inferior to 98-99 and even 03. Its just thay his competition was pretty much non existant at that point either.
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;D
WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH
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well, yeah, i wont argue that... but it was just a shadow of 98-99. Basically he regressed continously after he upped the dose.
05 was acceptable and he soundly beat the competition, but it was far inferior to 98-99 and even 03. Its just thay his competition was pretty much non existant at that point either.
I said earlier 99 was his best. But I liked 05 look, could've been lighting though.
Bit off the convo but Cutler looked sensational in 01.
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;D
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Arnold Alois 1973.
Ronnie 1997 he took 9th for having Wolfs size calves that year, But the rest of him was probably the best ever
QFT
WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH H
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Yeah but those arnold pics were taken in a schmoe's bedroom with overhead lighting. I look great in gym mirrors and feel suicidal when I look in home mirror.
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IMO, from the 90s up till now
98/01ASC Coleman
93 Yates
93 Wheeler
92 Levrone
99 Cormier
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I said earlier 99 was his best. But I liked 05 look, could've been lighting though.
Bit off the convo but Cutler looked sensational in 01.
No i agree, my point was he was just a shadow of 98/99.
Cutler did look great in 01 but hes another one who ruined himself trying to play the size game IMO.
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No i agree, my point was he was just a shadow of 98/99.
Cutler did look great in 01 but hes another one who ruined himself trying to play the size game IMO.
From 03 (ie every show after that bar maybe 03 Arnold and 09 O) he looked worse, ruined his lines.
I think 240-260 is max 99.9999% of people of normal height can look good as bodybuilders. If you get 300lb 5ft10 bbbers in 2050 they will look shit, just bigger, softer versions of 90s pros.
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;D well yes but everything else was glory upon glory
Holy fuck! When you see him now sometimes it's easy to forget just what a freak he was.
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for the record, as far as 99 O. vs 98 O goes, Peter McGough has publicly stated on video (and in his article of the best Mr. O physiques ever)
that Ronnie's 99 olympia was better than his 98 olympia physique:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=418439.0
however, he does feel that the AC Ronnie was better than either.
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from the above post:
Hulkster Somewhat Justified - McGough says 1999 Coleman's best Olympia but..
He says Coleman 2001 AC is his best physique.
Around 8:10 he states it very clearly and there
are many that feel the same. Hulkster always stated that McGough
placed 1999 ahead of 1998 as far as advancing the sport
and I have to give him credit-he was right that in what McGough was saying.
PS I am always right 8)
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Freakiest maybe , best physique ever on the Olympia stage ? not even close .
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mC1TEdZ4gks/SvaAHtWwaKI/AAAAAAAABrs/0cGoNayuskQ/s400/1999-mr-olympia-255_20090921_175074.JPG)
(http://muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=40971&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)
(http://musclemecca.com/imported-images/2008/11/169mavk-1.jpg)
Whenever I see Dexter now I instantly see a Ninja Turtle :D
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WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH H
Franco was so much better there (mid 70's) than he was in 1981.
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Good I just want your opinion and not Mc Gough's. His writing style is horrendous, he has a selective memory (ignores all his bullshit predictions that never came through) and .... his writing style is horrendous. My 10 year old son has a better grasp of the English language yet Mc Gough holds himself as some wordsmith, a literary pioneer. He's just a schmoe battling his sexual desires and erections to get a few words on the page before he can jerk off to men in thongs.
98/99 were both amazing (no homo), 2003 was crazy but when I look back his back lacked that insane level of detail that made the mass all the more extraordinary. That was Ron's thing - huge, conditioned and crazy separation. As he got to insane sizes he still came in ripped and and obviously huge but some detail was lost. His quads looked like turnips in 03 and 04, in 05 they were great.
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mc gough = schmoe who uses endless cliches
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from the above post:
PS I am always right 8)
LMAO you're never right. You're the guy who claimed Ronnie 99 was harder & drier than he was in 98 and in 01 , as usual you were dead wrong 8) ;)
You can't even get the basics right poor fella :-\
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Photoshoot just after the 1999 Mr. Olympia:
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Whenever I see Dexter now I instantly see a Ninja Turtle :D
WHEELER looked like a work of art in top form,but look at how slender through torso he is compared to coleman's thickness in same area,,wheeler had better structured abs and longer torso,ronnie was short torso'ed
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WHEELER looked like a work of art in top form,but look at how slender through torso he is compared to coleman's thickness in same area,,wheeler had better structured abs and longer torso,ronnie was short torso'ed
Coleman had an extremely short torso.
Believe it or not, theres actually a pic from 96 where him and yates are standing next to each other, and yates hips are actually narrower than ronnies.
I think that may have been part of the issue with yates bulging obliques, his hips were so narrow that when he relaxed his stomach they hung over the sides and made him look bloated. When he tensed them though, his hips/waist were actually pretty small, especially early in his career.
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Coleman had an extremely short torso.
Believe it or not, theres actually a pic from 96 where him and yates are standing next to each other, and yates hips are actually narrower than ronnies.
I think that may have been part of the issue with yates bulging obliques, his hips were so narrow that when he relaxed his stomach they hung over the sides and made him look bloated. When he tensed them though, his hips/waist were actually pretty small, especially early in his career.
THATS what made yates signature poses standout he had small hips,slenderish not meaty bulging quads like the norm and those ridiculous calves ,gave him a good look with the sick hanging lats ..
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narrow waist LMAO ::)
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narrow waist LMAO ::)
Thanks for helping validate my point.
Here, despite being much closer to the camera, his hips are as narrow as Kevins. And when he lets his stomach relax, his obliques hang over his hips and make him look bloated. When he tensed them up, his waist became fairy narrow, as can be seen in any comparison where hes actually flexing.
Appreciate the help Hulkster.
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Thanks for helping validate my point.
Here, despite being much closer to the camera, his hips are as narrow as Kevins. And when he lets his stomach relax, his obliques hang over his hips and make him look bloated. When he tensed them up, his waist became fairy narrow, as can be seen in any comparison where hes actually flexing.
Appreciate the help Hulkster.
Dorian's Front Relaxed was awesome when flexed like the pic below, but I don't know why he didn't do it more often and instead looked like the pic above.
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narrow waist LMAO ::)
Same contest ;)
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Same contest ;)
His lats look amazing in that shot. What was his main exercise for lats? Good ol' heavy barbell rows?
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His lats look amazing in that shot. What was his main exercise for lats? Good ol' heavy barbell rows?
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In that clip, he does every back exercise except barbell rows, but in this one he says they're the bread and butter move for mid and lower lat thickness.
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In that clip, he does every back exercise except barbell rows, but in this one he says they're the bread and butter move for mid and lower lat thickness.
guess he wants them to fail
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His lats look amazing in that shot. What was his main exercise for lats? Good ol' heavy barbell rows?
He has talked before about his heavy rows (where hes bent like 45*), but he really credits going heavy on a pullover machine for his lats... you can see it in blood and guts.
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His lats look amazing in that shot. What was his main exercise for lats? Good ol' heavy barbell rows?
Steroids and genetics
Its the main exercise for all pros
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Steroids and genetics
Its the main exercise for all pros
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No
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Dorian's Front Relaxed was awesome when flexed like the pic below, but I don't know why he didn't do it more often and instead looked like the pic above.
I agree, and i dont know why he stood like that all the time... i think he actually just stood relaxed when he looked like that, it was usually when waiting for a callout or waiting for the winner announcement.
I guess when he wasnt actively being judged he saw no reason in trying to stand their tensing everything, lol. Only answer that makes any sense to me.
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His lats look amazing in that shot. What was his main exercise for lats? Good ol' heavy barbell rows?
Genetics was his main exercise.
Please don't tell me you still believe in certain "magic" exercises and that by copying them your muscle will develop just like the pro who uses it....oh brother. ??? ::)
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Steroids and genetics
Its the main exercise for all pros
QFT.
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This picture comparing Kai Greene and Ronnie 2001
really shows Ronnie's incredible condition in 2001.
You will have to see it full size to see how much thinner
Ronnie's onion skin is compared to one of Kai's best
conditions to appreciate how ripped he was.
Not one of RC's best poses but he is skinless almost.
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3761363&d=1317749838)
are you sure that Ronnie's skin is thinner than Kai's? Couldn't his bodyfat percentage just be a little lower?
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Case closed. I haven't seen an Olympia where it was so convincing who was going to win
(http://www.gallery.marocbodybuilding.com/images/img_1350296330.jpg)
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Case closed. I haven't seen an Olympia where it was so convincing who was going to win
Then you didn't see 1993 and 1995
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are you sure that Ronnie's skin is thinner than Kai's? Couldn't his bodyfat percentage just be a little lower?
you make a lot of sense
"thick skin"
"holding water"
all eufenism for fat
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I still prefer the 2003 Mr.O version of Ronnie.
now THAT was a look that will be hard to duplicate for many years.
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I still prefer the 2003 Mr.O version of Ronnie.
now THAT was a look that will be hard to duplicate for many years.
It was the ultimate "Holy Sh!t!!" Physique.
(http://www.ambal.ru/02618326315.jpg)
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Case closed. I haven't seen an Olympia where it was so convincing who was going to win
(http://www.gallery.marocbodybuilding.com/images/img_1350296330.jpg)
Branch came 2nd that year, should say it all.
Ronnie 03, Yates 93... nearly all Haney years, Heath 2013... so many years people were better and more dominant. Chris Dickerson hardly won in a vintage field.
As to what flaws in Jay pose at top of page, try biceps being completely mismatched. And wide waist.
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jay was wide/great delts/chest/traps, due to his arms he should have never did the crab pose,he looked like a totally different bodybuilder when he he did it,looked smallish..strange..
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It was the ultimate "Holy Sh!t!!" Physique.
(http://www.ambal.ru/02618326315.jpg)
X2.