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Title: Steroids result in permanent gains
Post by: Lord Chronos on September 15, 2014, 05:59:44 AM


Whilst its clear steroids give permanent size gain, this recent animal study shows that satellite cells are permanently recruited into muscles. Training months or years later resulted in a significantly better response than those which had not been exposed to steroids.

http://www.powermyself.com/blog/?p=328[/url]

http://jp.physoc.org/content/early/2013/10/28/jphysiol.2013.264457.abstract (http://jp.physoc.org/content/early/2013/10/28/jphysiol.2013.264457.abstract)
Title: Re: Steroids result in permanent gains
Post by: _aj_ on September 15, 2014, 06:01:10 AM
And apparently brain damage...

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=550305.0
Title: Re: Steroids result in permanent gains
Post by: Dr.J on September 15, 2014, 08:15:41 AM
Nothing is permanent,  nothing.
Title: Re: Steroids result in permanent gains
Post by: FermiDirac on September 15, 2014, 08:17:10 AM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-v_5UUVyoANs/UhtiR0pp6CI/AAAAAAAAKJI/C-g-7V9bXIQ/s1600/4.jpg)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-fQmIXMyaujQ/UVs2SWP9cAI/AAAAAAAAAK4/UR6XI19frlg/s1600/mustafa-mohammad.jpg)

 ::)

Permanent gains of peace
Title: Re: Steroids result in permanent gains
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on September 15, 2014, 08:18:09 AM
There is certainly a residual effect(assuming the persons kidneys still function and they are able to eat and train still). Even when they are 'off' they retain more muscle than a lifetime natty
Title: Re: Steroids result in permanent gains
Post by: Natural Beast on September 15, 2014, 08:58:06 AM
i believe that... litte bit of that steroid mass stays...
Title: Re: Steroids result in permanent gains
Post by: oldgolds on September 15, 2014, 09:01:05 AM

Whilst its clear steroids give permanent size gain, this recent animal study shows that satellite cells are permanently recruited into muscles. Training months or years later resulted in a significantly better response than those which had not been exposed to steroids.

http://www.powermyself.com/blog/?p=328[/url]

http://jp.physoc.org/content/early/2013/10/28/jphysiol.2013.264457.abstract (http://jp.physoc.org/content/early/2013/10/28/jphysiol.2013.264457.abstract)

Nope....I've seen too many guys stop the drugs and shrink to nothing, while still training/eating..
Title: Re: Steroids result in permanent gains
Post by: MAXX on September 15, 2014, 09:32:03 AM
maybe but the hormonal shutdown makes it not worth it in terms of keeping gains anyways
Title: Re: Steroids result in permanent gains
Post by: Man of Steel on September 15, 2014, 10:48:23 AM

Whilst its clear steroids give permanent size gain

Yes, exactly correct.
Title: Re: Steroids result in permanent gains
Post by: funk51 on September 15, 2014, 11:10:13 AM

Whilst its clear steroids give permanent size gain, this recent animal study shows that satellite cells are permanently recruited into muscles. Training months or years later resulted in a significantly better response than those which had not been exposed to steroids.

http://www.powermyself.com/blog/?p=328[/url]

http://jp.physoc.org/content/early/2013/10/28/jphysiol.2013.264457.abstract (http://jp.physoc.org/content/early/2013/10/28/jphysiol.2013.264457.abstract)
so your saying your musclememory is enhanced because you stretched the muscle past the point you could achieve naturally when you factor in genetics and other stimuli? sounds reasonable.
Title: Re: Steroids result in permanent gains
Post by: thebrink on September 15, 2014, 07:44:38 PM
i believe that... litte bit of that steroid mass stays...

Without a doubt , but usually only from a trained body. Beginners wouldn't see much after results.
Title: Re: Steroids result in permanent gains
Post by: Master Blaster on September 15, 2014, 08:57:46 PM
the effect is small, i believe
Title: Re: Steroids result in permanent gains
Post by: Desolate on September 15, 2014, 09:04:36 PM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-v_5UUVyoANs/UhtiR0pp6CI/AAAAAAAAKJI/C-g-7V9bXIQ/s1600/4.jpg)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-fQmIXMyaujQ/UVs2SWP9cAI/AAAAAAAAAK4/UR6XI19frlg/s1600/mustafa-mohammad.jpg)

 ::)

Permanent gains of peace

LOL.

Hilarious! :D

We should put up all of these before and after pics.

The Kevin Levrone and Paul Dillet ones are hilarious as well. :D
Title: Re: Steroids result in permanent gains
Post by: Griffith on September 16, 2014, 06:26:45 AM
There is certainly a residual effect(assuming the persons kidneys still function and they are able to eat and train still). Even when they are 'off' they retain more muscle than a lifetime natty

Yes, I agree.
Title: Re: Steroids result in permanent gains
Post by: Pet shop boys on September 16, 2014, 06:34:49 AM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-v_5UUVyoANs/UhtiR0pp6CI/AAAAAAAAKJI/C-g-7V9bXIQ/s1600/4.jpg)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-fQmIXMyaujQ/UVs2SWP9cAI/AAAAAAAAAK4/UR6XI19frlg/s1600/mustafa-mohammad.jpg)

 ::)

Permanent gains of peace


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Title: Re: Steroids result in permanent gains
Post by: anabolichalo on September 16, 2014, 06:41:13 AM
i came off steroids once for a few weeks and lost all my gains
Title: Re: Steroids result in permanent gains
Post by: dustin on September 16, 2014, 07:05:41 AM
It does recruit satellite cells and you'll be able to have the luxury of muscle memory, but don't forget that the anabolic environment needs to be there to facilitate that growth. No steroids, no anabolism. You'll be back to your natural max again, but once you're back on the juice you'll pop right back up.

I came off for nearly two years and had catastrophic results. It was a period of mental growth as my physique diminished and I was left to pick up the pieces of my ego. But it was good in hindsight. I trained hard, got in good cardiovascular shape and held off the juice until right after my daughter was born... I actually went home after the deliver to let the dogs out and pinned a whole 3ml syringe of test, trend and NPP. I blew up and put on 20lbs of muscle and was much leaner than when I last came off and looked my best.

20lbs of that sort of quality size would take years, but I juiced for years and my muscles inflated back up. It's only leased muscle. No anabolics, no size. It's as simple as that. This is why I don't advocate abusing or rushing things. It'll come with time as long as you're consistent and determined. If you have setbacks, don't load up another syringe lol. Just wait it out and train hard and consistently.
Title: Re: Steroids result in permanent gains
Post by: njflex on September 16, 2014, 07:21:29 AM
It does recruit satellite cells and you'll be able to have the luxury of muscle memory, but don't forget that the anabolic environment needs to be there to facilitate that growth. No steroids, no anabolism. You'll be back to your natural max again, but once you're back on the juice you'll pop right back up.

I came off for nearly two years and had catastrophic results. It was a period of mental growth as my physique diminished and I was left to pick up the pieces of my ego. But it was good in hindsight. I trained hard, got in good cardiovascular shape and held off the juice until right after my daughter was born... I actually went home after the deliver to let the dogs out and pinned a whole 3ml syringe of test, trend and NPP. I blew up and put on 20lbs of muscle and was much leaner than when I last came off and looked my best.

20lbs of that sort of quality size would take years, but I juiced for years and my muscles inflated back up. It's only leased muscle. No anabolics, no size. It's as simple as that. This is why I don't advocate abusing or rushing things. It'll come with time as long as you're consistent and determined. If you have setbacks, don't load up another syringe lol. Just wait it out and train hard and consistently.
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