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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: stilx on September 18, 2014, 03:57:45 PM
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Hey guys,
I've posted here a few times and always got a good response so Im hoping for the same again today.
Basically Ive been running roids for the last 18 months or so on and off and have gone from approx 235 to 275lb ( Im 6 ft 8!). Now although I get a lot of comments of being 'a big bloke' I wanna go to the next level where I scare people and everyone gasp's that Im HUGE!. Do I just increase the test ( been running approx 1g a week) or start with gh or other compounds?. Dont care what I have to take or how much it costs, I just want to be a monster!
Cheers.
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Seems u r doing it right in another 18 months u will b 40 more lbs bigger than u r now. Hopefully u r adding mostly muscle lbs
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Uhhhhhh no.....Gotta switch it up you can't just run the same thing forever. You should add in some deca or tren into it you'll get fucking HUGEEEEE trust me man tren is god run it at 75-100mg ED along with your test. If money isn't an option run tren for at least 12 weeks at 100mg a day if you can handle it and keep your test low at around 300-400/week but use test prop I promise you will be the biggest, strongest, leanest, most vascular mother fucker in your gym by far
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I don't think tren on a mass cycle is worth the sides. If pure mass is what you're after I would keep it simple & do:
1-6: 3000mg Test Cyp, 1000mg EQ, as much GH as you can afford. 10iu 3x a day is good.
7-12: 3000mg Test E, 1000mg Deca, GH
13-18: 3000mg Sus250, 1000mg Primo, GH
Add in 10iu Humalog 2-3x a day & skip the orals. Less sides, less loss of appetite, less toxicity etc.
I'd also add in 2.5mg femera 2x a week & keep dyazide on hand if you have BP problems.
No reason to get fancy if pure mass is what you're after. Take lots of gear, eat, train, sleep, repeat...
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The best gains are not going to come from AAS it will come from alot of HGH use and insulin loading. HGH blow steroids out of the water if your looking for lean muscle tissue. AAS can;t compete with HGH. one problem you might have are your proprotions usually alot of tall guys are not that impressive even at that weight another issue is you might not be lean enough. Once you get in nthe 5-7%BF range is when you can actually weigh less but look like you weigh alot more. I know a guy who is 5 ft 7In and he uses growth and minimal AAS but he stays so lean and everything he gains is pure lean muscle tissue no bloat or other bullshit and he looks like a human anatomy chart with crazy size and mass. He's not even that strong, I mean he is strong but nothing crazy. he might bench 3 plates for a few reps and at most squats maybe 3 to four plates a side but he looks crazy strong, veins shooting out everywhere it's about being lean and your conditioning.
I doubt all that weight you put on is lean muscle tissue not really possible. some of it might be but if you get 6-10 lbs a year of actual lean muscle tissue your doing good.
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I doubt all that weight you put on is lean muscle tissue not really possible. some of it might be but if you get 6-10 lbs a year of actual lean muscle tissue your doing good. [/b]
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^^^^^^^^^^ first comment was a little sarcastic but this nails it on the head
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I doubt all that weight you put on is lean muscle tissue not really possible. some of it might be but if you get 6-10 lbs a year of actual lean muscle tissue your doing good. [/b]
^^^^^^^^^^ first comment was a little sarcastic but this nails it on the head
I just tell it how it is! Ive been in this game forever and if your not putting on pure lean muscle tissue what's the point? You have to make every pound count.If you don;t follow my advice your going to have a sad thing coming to you. You will be trying to get rid of that water and fat weight for awhile if you don;t do your cycles right. I always tell guys to start at a low BF% too! Don;t just jump on your first cycle at 15-20% Bodyfat that is just stupid or jumping into it wild eyed because maybe you finally found a connection on some gear.
If you put on just 5-8 pounds a year of 100% solid muscle tissue your doing GREAT! believe me it will look like alot more! I am not as lean as my friend anymore and even when I was due to the fact he has 7 years on me I didn't have the muscle maturity he had but if it was bullshit water weight he wouldn;t count it just like doing pushups if it looks shitty and your kind of cheating we don't count it.
My buddy like I said is 5 ft 7 IN and uses high quality USA HGH sometimes it's seros,sometimes it's genos or humatrope but it's always the real shit 191-AA and he uses minimal primarily highly anabolic compounds but small doses.a cycle for him is 400mg of test cyp and 400mg of EQ along with the HGH. since he stays so lean and all the muscle he has gained has been pure lean muscle mass even at 175 lbs he looks crazy
(he is the guy everybody looks up to and asks for advice and he is so cool to people and loves to help people out, he is not a jerk to anybody! he has a great job but if he wanted to personal train he would be booked all day,This was the first NPC bodybuilder I met actually first bodybuilder I ever met at all I was young when I met him just 19 and he mentored me for free till i was in my mid 20's and they sold the gym. he gave me alot of knowledge) !Our gym got shutdown so we don't train much anymore as we signed up at diffrent gyms after LA fitness bought out bally fitness in OR.
Also like I said he dosn't lift crazy amounts of weight he lifts with extreme strict form(no bullshit reps) and he always is contracting the target muscle. He never really trys to show off most of the time he just benches starting at 135 and goes up to 275lbs but I have seen him do some heavy sets but still he can't bench anything crazy maybe 315 for 5-8 reps at MOST and he only squats starts at 135 lbs and works up to around 350-400 lbs but everything is so strict, however he looks like he can bench way more then he actually can, he looks like he can lift super heavy in all lifts but he really isn;t that strong compared to some other guys I know but look wise and if people just looked at them he def looks stronger and is just freaky looking.
I know another 22 year old kid I met in May and he is a powerlifter but he could easily jump into bodybuilding if he wanted to and this kid is so fucking strong. Right now he is benching 525 for 2 reps on his own and one rep with just the most slight assistance his squat is close to 800lbs and his deadlift is about the same and even though he is about 205lbs maybe 210lbs some days, the kid is ripped too! I could prep him and get him a pro card in 2 years at the most, but my friend I was talking about earlier actually looks like he would be stronger due to how lean he is and the muscle maturity plus just not over-bulking and doing everything perfect.
Bottom line is steroids are not magic and can only do so much. The magic is in the HGH and insulin combo along with AAS use. No way in hell can AAS make you grow the kind of muscle tissue HGH can and you get way more muscle fibers when you use HGH. So to be at the top your going to have to incorporate HGH and insulin or just HGH if you don't want to fuck with insulin. But the HGH/slin synergistic effect is crazy.
I think stilx overbulked and put on a poor quality of muscle mass you gained 40 pounds and there is just no way that can be all muscle. with just AAS I bet at most if it was your first cycle you might have gotten 10-12 lbs of actual lean muscle tissue the rest is water weight and fat. I would lay off the juice get lean as you can and do it the right way from here on out. It is a common mistake alot of us have done it. I over-bulked more then once and I paid for it.
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Correct!!! My thoughts were on my first cycle was im on test and im gonna eat everything in sight to gain mass so it will all b muscle lol
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Heres another thing to think about for most people. How big are u? Are u shredded? Are u bigger than arnold did arnold have hgh.
Use what u need.
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Hey guys,
Ive been looking through my training diary and its actually almost 2 years to the day since I started pinning. Im not sure how much of my weight gain is pure muscle but Ive def gone from 235lb to 273lb (this morning). Id estimate by Bf% at 15%. 50" chest, 18" arms and 37" waist.
As far as the hgh goes what would be a good starting point?. When could I expect to see results?
Thanks.
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Hey guys,
Ive been looking through my training diary and its actually almost 2 years to the day since I started pinning. Im not sure how much of my weight gain is pure muscle but Ive def gone from 235lb to 273lb (this morning). Id estimate by Bf% at 15%. 50" chest, 18" arms and 37" waist.
As far as the hgh goes what would be a good starting point?. When could I expect to see results?
Thanks.
Pics?
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Arnold did pretty well without the sacred HGH Insulin combo.
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Some huge units in the late 80's with no GH or skin, just good old gear and food... Ellwood and Ian Harrison were both over 6ft and around the 260+ mark even or even heavier, and that's contest weight
There's tons of growth left in you on plain old steroids, of all the guys telling you otherwise, put your hand up if you've ever been 270/280.... I have and GH wasn't needed
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Thanks for Local hero!. Would you advise me to stay around 1g a week (currently test E) or start to up the dose?. Cheers.
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I don't think tren on a mass cycle is worth the sides. If pure mass is what you're after I would keep it simple & do:
1-6: 3000mg Test Cyp, 1000mg EQ, as much GH as you can afford. 10iu 3x a day is good.
7-12: 3000mg Test E, 1000mg Deca, GH
13-18: 3000mg Sus250, 1000mg Primo, GH
Add in 10iu Humalog 2-3x a day & skip the orals. Less sides, less loss of appetite, less toxicity etc.
I'd also add in 2.5mg femera 2x a week & keep dyazide on hand if you have BP problems.
No reason to get fancy if pure mass is what you're after. Take lots of gear, eat, train, sleep, repeat...
I love your style Qwert!
This is a Great cycle but its really hard to afford 30 iu of gh...
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I love your style Qwert!
This is a Great cycle but its really hard to afford 30 iu of gh...
Well, he did say "Dont care what I have to take or how much it costs, I just want to be a monster!"
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Thanks for Local hero!. Would you advise me to stay around 1g a week (currently test E) or start to up the dose?. Cheers.
Didn't you say you wanted to be HUGE? 1g isn't going to cut it anymore, if you want actual muscle mass & not fat/water. You're maxed out on that dose & need more. Especially different compounds & none AAS ones.
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"The best way to look like you've gained 10 pounds of muscle is to lose 10 pounds of fat"
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"The best way to look like you've gained 10 pounds of muscle is to lose 10 pounds of fat"
exactly. get lean.
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People start AAS cycles while they are fat becouse they think; steroids are magic and they will be burn fat and build muscles together ::) ::)
But about steroids and their possibility to burn fat i noticed one thing... when you one time go very low with body fat and melt off first thing your viscelar/resistant fat from younger age; AAS will be help you with not getting this fat again, even only test. Of course if You train hard and don't eat 10k cals a day... :) :)
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This stuff isn't rocket science. Find a "program" that works for you and eat as much clean good food as you can and you will get big!
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This stuff isn't rocket science. Find a "program" that works for you and eat as much clean good food as you can and you will get big!
Actually, if you eat as much food as you can, even if it's ultra clean food, you will get FAT.
There's nothing more sad in BB than 'you have to pack in the food to get big' mentality.
You have to eat ENOUGH to get big, any more & you will get FAT.
Bulking is STUPID.
Eating too much food is STUPID.
Packing in the food is STUPID.
Find out what your daily calorie needs are for your program & DO NOT go over them.
Mind you, this is only if you care about lean muscle gains & not mass of any kind gains.
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Hey guys,
I've posted here a few times and always got a good response so Im hoping for the same again today.
Basically Ive been running roids for the last 18 months or so on and off and have gone from approx 235 to 275lb ( Im 6 ft 8!). Now although I get a lot of comments of being 'a big bloke' I wanna go to the next level where I scare people and everyone gasp's that Im HUGE!. Do I just increase the test ( been running approx 1g a week) or start with gh or other compounds?. Dont care what I have to take or how much it costs, I just want to be a monster!
Cheers.
250 test/ 1g tren / 400 mast
growth hormone as much as you can afford
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250 test/ 1g tren / 400 mast
growth hormone as much as you can afford
With all due respect, this a pathetic GH15 wannabe cycle & terrible advices.
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With all due respect, this a pathetic GH15 wannabe cycle & terrible advices.
Who is GH15?
after googling, it seems to be somewhat of a forum.
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Who is GH15?
after googling, it seems to be somewhat of a forum.
Lol
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Who is GH15?
after googling, it seems to be somewhat of a forum.
Yes....somewhat
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Equipona?
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Conned BLP into spending 1000s on GH to change his shitty genetics to win a local show a morona
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Conned BLP into spending 1000s on GH to change his shitty genetics to win a local show a morona
Met BLP at the Toronto Pro. Very humble guy but doesnt know his bodybuilding...needs to get back to the basics.
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Met BLP at the Toronto Pro. Very humble guy but doesnt know his bodybuilding...needs to get back to the basics.
BLP is a really good guy, but he still hasn't realized that he can't change his poor genetics with more GH/drugs. This is where GH15 came in. He preys on the weak & desperate & makes them believe you can change your genetics by taking more GH, more tren, more mastron etc.
If you have great genetics for BB, you will grow on test, deca & dbol & not even crazy dosages. If you have poor genetics like BLP, no amount of GH or gear will turn you into a pro like physique.
I wish him the best & I wish he'd post here, but I think he's been brain washed by GH15. Oh well....
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BLP is a really good guy, but he still hasn't realized that he can't change his poor genetics with more GH/drugs. This is where GH15 came in. He preys on the weak & desperate & makes them believe you can change your genetics by taking more GH, more tren, more mastron etc.
If you have great genetics for BB, you will grow on test, deca & dbol & not even crazy dosages. If you have poor genetics like BLP, no amount of GH or gear will turn you into a pro like physique.
I wish him the best & I wish he'd post here, but I think he's been brain washed by GH15. Oh well....
your wrong , anyone can be a pro - more tren more gh more insulin more food and more training will get you there
ive seen guys with crap genetics turn pro
Ive read a little of what GH15 has said, some of it is very very true im telling you now as a pro it is.
some of it was garbage.
the difference is - guys with worse genetics av to take MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE EAT MORE MORE MORE
there health will suffer and they will never be a TOP pro or at olympia.
the guys that take the hormones well ( genetics if you want to call it that) will still take large amounts but less then the guy with average genetics, - he will grow twice as quick have better shape and his health will be better.
thats it - and it is 100% TRUE IVE SEEN IT 100000000 OF TIMES.
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now literally anyone on this planet can be 200- 220lbs ripped to fuk fitness/muscle model look anyone.
GET IT !!!!!!!!!!! ANYONE CAN DO THAT WITH TREN/GH/PROP/MAST/CLEN/T3
ONE MORE TIME ANYONE ON THIS PLANET WHO IS A MALE CAN GET TO 200-220LBS HEIGHT RELATIED AND CAN GET TO 6% BODFAT.
NOW GETTING TO THE 230-260 RANGE IS A DIFFERNE T BALL GAME
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Mazfit... Which country do you claim to have turned pro in, why no pro status on here?
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ALL im going to say is ive turned pro and won pro cards with 2 different fedirations one very big in the uk the other the main bodybuilding fed.
the one that happened in london was muscle model category
the other traditional..
my realname isnt maz or mazfit - there is a muscle/fitness model that goes by mazfit ( google images ) i kmnow of him but i dont think hte competes,. hes not me.
No more hints or clues., maybe i am p=ussy for not giving more but srteroids and the liek are still frowned upon deals ect will be ripped up, -0 everyoner in this industry is on huge amounts of drugs, but the moment someone addmits it and there name is tarnuished goodbye.
i dont care about pro status on here, i dont usually every go on forums, but my day job means im beghind a computer 8 hours a day, so my thoughts are i would help the kids here no lies no bullshit, if you dont liek what i got to sday dfont listen, but ive been in the game long enought TO SEE WHAT WORKS
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and what works is to get big - CALORES not fukin clean callories you think we get huge omn fkin chicken and brocoli ha no - yes that is in the diety eggs, chicken, steak, rice, veg, tuna, salmon yes
but also, buregers, pizza, icecream, cookies, chineese, indian, curries and lots of tren for the olders lots of tren and hgh
but the mian dfactor is drugs lots of ddrugs, lots of growth, peptides, and later on insulin used right.
the guys at the top big roland elhisabbie mamadoh rami - Myostatin durgs
i swear on my mother and grandmas life, i can get myostatin drugs i can get them here in the UK - but at £500 ( aroun $800.00 for us - for a 2-3 week supply - how can we afford once u get to olympia and some arab millionair sponsors you then u get the drugs you guys dont even know about
this cult is so dark so secrete there are things you would be very shocked at you can see the difference bettween TOP TOP Pros - yes we look good but compared to olymmpia ? and its not genetics we weigh the same some of us, but the look of the muscle, thats drugs we dont know eno9ugh about due to the costings.
you already know abiout the gay stuff that goes on in both fitness and bodybuilding.
i know sso many fitness models that have done gay shit to get a
fuoooking two page spread in MUSCLE AND FICTION.
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Funnily wnouigh i was just talking to my trainer/source about how some of the guys went from 0- hero and olympia in 3-4 years heres what he said about 5 months ago
(http://s30.postimg.org/wwk76jkgt/image_2.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/wwk76jkgt/)