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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Pneumothorax on September 20, 2014, 01:12:24 AM
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I was there not the greatest seats but Kai next to Phil, didn't seem like a stretch that Kai crushed him. Only bad pose for Kai was front abs, it showed his wide hips and gut.
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Team Andro pics.
You be the judge.
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Team Andro pics.
You be the judge.
Actually, those pics don't show a clear winner.
You can break each one down, and each has something over the other.
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Has Phil peaked in 2013? Kai had much more natural base and thus a way higher ceiling.
It makes sense.
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Are these the best 2 Bodybuilders in the world right now? :-\
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SEO in Kais Bis?
That peak.......
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Phil just can`t do the side chest pose.
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Actually, those pics don't show a clear winner.
You can break each one down, and each has something over the other.
Well, there is no need to get down to small details - Kai is better in bold strokes - he is bigger, better conditioned and has better aesthetics.
Phil's MM and FLS are ridiculously lousy for super HW, it's so obvious he tries to look bigger in these poses, but can't due to genetic flaws. Not with these clavicles and girly ribcage.
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Kai's midsection is gross. I don't understand the love for this guy. Must be a lot of farmers and vegetarians on getbig.
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Well, there is no need to get down to small details - Kai is better in bold strokes - he is bigger, better conditioned and has better aesthetics.
Phil's MM and FLS are ridiculously lousy for super HW, it's so obvious he tries to look bigger in these poses, but can't due to genetic flaws. Not with these clavicles and girly ribcage.
Aesthetically Phil is better, and has been.
Kai has a wide torso, and his waist is wide, sad that back in 2006-2007, he never looked like that. He has too much muscle for his 5'8 frame.
At this point and level, you have to focus on the small details, as that is what separates them.
You can't use broad strokes, because you have focus on the details---the devil is in the details.
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Kai's midsection is gross. I don't understand the love for this guy. Must be a lot of farmers and vegetarians on getbig.
Seriously.
Hate his structure and build.
Shit torso length, long legs, squatty midsection, looks like a squished frog from waist up.
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When you have so much controversy about both competitors sucking, this leads me to one conclusion: BOTH competitors suck.
When Ronnie dominated, there was no doubt he had the best physique on stage. You could not even argue the point.
The fact that Kai and Phil have so many flaws that either side can make a case just shows that both are pretty shitty bodybuilders.
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They both look like shit
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Heath looks smooth, no striations, midsection is horrible, lost those crispy details in the back...
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What a horrible pair of shitey wee physiques. :o :o
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Phil has the most awkward looking front lat spread I've ever seen. It's just terrible and those fucked up little pecs really ruin his front poses. And those arms look so much less impressive when he poses.
And his condition has been slipping every year.
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Aesthetically Phil is better, and has been.
Kai has a wide torso, and his waist is wide, sad that back in 2006-2007, he never looked like that. He has too much muscle for his 5'8 frame.
At this point and level, you have to focus on the small details, as that is what separates them.
You can't use broad strokes, because you have focus on the details---the devil is in the details.
Speaking of frames, it is Phil who has too much muscle for his small frame.
Everyone involved in bodybuilding says that since his first pro show. He got too much advances in his career. But from then onward Phils head and waist had also grown, while the rest of his body stays the same size, plus he didn't nail his conditioning that time. Phil loses wow-factor every year, while Kai keeps improving his weak spots - see conditioning, traps, waist control.
But it's all irrelevant, considering what the judging is in that so called sport. : )
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Both have awful, deteriorating midsections. Still, I don't see that grapefruit boy has anything like enough over Heath to win. When you have an established champ, you have to be a LOT better to dethrone him.
Disappointing this year. Need some new blood. Some new muscles to admire!
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Both have awful, deteriorating midsections. Still, I don't see that grapefruit boy has anything like enough over Heath to win. When you have an established champ, you have to be a LOT better to dethrone him.
Disappointing this year. Need some new blood. Some new muscles to admire!
Best post ever
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Actually, those pics don't show a clear winner.
You can break each one down, and each has something over the other.
I beg to differ , they clearly show Phil is better
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I beg to differ , they clearly show Phil is better
you pointed out phils abs last year, what do you say about them now? getting worse year by year, even has a gut now. kid is burned out.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10665673_728927903823136_1447118131772695970_n.jpg?oh=47b7bcc3ab8c1820cf637b1a1b86959a&oe=54909653&__gda__=1418113893_fc149130d21162bb6164fc2d7db038fe)
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you pointed out phils abs last year, what do you say about them now? getting worse year by year, even has a gut now. kid is burned out.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10665673_728927903823136_1447118131772695970_n.jpg?oh=47b7bcc3ab8c1820cf637b1a1b86959a&oe=54909653&__gda__=1418113893_fc149130d21162bb6164fc2d7db038fe)
haha, will be quite sad if a Mr. Olympia has abs like that. Anyone who has a gut should automatically be relegated out of the top 6. There is no excuse for a bodybuilder having a gut, supposedly a Mr. Olympia.
If anything, they should give the title to Dexter.
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Aesthetically Phil is better, and has been.
Kai has a wide torso, and his waist is wide, sad that back in 2006-2007, he never looked like that. He has too much muscle for his 5'8 frame.
At this point and level, you have to focus on the small details, as that is what separates them.
You can't use broad strokes, because you have focus on the details---the devil is in the details.
The devil is in Phil's pregnant gut.
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you pointed out phils abs last year, what do you say about them now? getting worse year by year, even has a gut now. kid is burned out.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10665673_728927903823136_1447118131772695970_n.jpg?oh=47b7bcc3ab8c1820cf637b1a1b86959a&oe=54909653&__gda__=1418113893_fc149130d21162bb6164fc2d7db038fe)
He's never had fantastic abs he does look off from last year but he's not competing against himself from last year , only the soft Kai this year and he's better than him by far
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Actually, those pics don't show a clear winner.
You can break each one down, and each has something over the other.
Exactly, Kai is not a clear winner at all... What are these clowns talking about? ::)
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Speaking of frames, it is Phil who has too much muscle for his small frame.
Everyone involved in bodybuilding says that since his first pro show. He got too much advances in his career. But from then onward Phils head and waist had also grown, while the rest of his body stays the same size, plus he didn't nail his conditioning that time. Phil loses wow-factor every year, while Kai keeps improving his weak spots - see conditioning, traps, waist control.
But it's all irrelevant, considering what the judging is in that so called sport. : )
No, people started saying that on here back in 2007...and they have been wrong ever since. How can Phil's waist have grown but everything else stays the same, when he incrementally gets bigger? That makes no sense.
Kai still hasn't improved his flat traps from the back. It is Kai who has made the bigger advances in weight
Look for Phil and Kai pics from the 2006 Colorado Pro. Phil got first, Kai got 14th, and has come a long way in terms of size and placings.
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They both are not worthy. As time goes by, standards just get worse. And it looks like Kai tore his left bicep at one time. Nobody ever mentions the gap he has there compared to his full right one. I noticed this years ago.
Anyway, things just keep devolving year by year. I am dissapoint.
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They both are not worthy. As time goes by, standards just get worse. And it looks like Kai tore his left bicep at one time. Nobody ever mentions the gap he has there compared to his full right one. I noticed this years ago.
Anyway, things just keep devolving year by year. I am dissapoint.
Kai has bicep peaks, but sometimes they look "odd". He has them since he started, you can see them in his younger days---even in his grapefruit gifs.
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haha, will be quite sad if a Mr. Olympia has abs like that. Anyone who has a gut should automatically be relegated out of the top 6. There is no excuse for a bodybuilder having a gut, supposedly a Mr. Olympia.
If anything, they should give the title to Dexter.
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Some more comparisons.
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Relaxed.
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Rhoden is definitely bigger this year looks good, needs to dry out for the finals. Kai's physique does not flow, doesn't matter if Phil is off Kai ain't beating him. I could see Rhoden beating him before Kai.
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You can clearly see Phil is the hardest with the most cuts and definiton. Just look at Phils legs compared to Kai and Shawn. Thats a big difference. Phils gut and abs is becoming horrible though.
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No pics of Wolf or Dex?
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Seems Phil's got an umbilical hernia.
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Sadly these days because of HGH and Slin abuse, this is the aesthetics of bodybuilding...
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Neither look like they should be the poster boy for the IFBB. If Rhoden dries out he can best these two thick bellys tonight....he has the most aesthetic physique.
Big Shamey wasted a year of training. Branch deserves a top 6 for his spot on conditioning. If Dennis was serious he would get those calf implants done and over with. Do it now and let the news get out there and it will be a no issue by 2015 and the Sandow is his.
Sorry NBC, this is what our glorious sport has slipped to....a little bit of WWE mixed with 95% efforts.
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Phil is going to win no matter what! He's the worst Mr O in history.
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haha, will be quite sad if a Mr. Olympia has abs like that. Anyone who has a gut should automatically be relegated out of the top 6. There is no excuse for a bodybuilder having a gut, supposedly a Mr. Olympia.
If anything, they should give the title to Dexter.
He looks like SHITE...
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Phil and Roelly should share "The worst gut" title.
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Kai has bicep peaks, but sometimes they look "odd". He has them since he started, you can see them in his younger days---even in his grapefruit gifs.
You may be right Parker, I've always wondered. There is a marked difference though, which is clearly illustrated in this pic...
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And as far as shape goes, Shawn is the clear winner.
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Calm down, Nancy. I never said Ronnie Coleman should be excluded from that. It should go for EVERYONE!
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Looks like this is the worst Phil has ever looked. Doesn't look good for "The Gift Nutrition". Those new supps he using were suppose to bring in a bigger better Phil Heath.
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Kai doesn't look like this just standing there
when he's not in shape.
(http://www.flexonline.com/sites/flexonline.com/files/styles/gallery_slide_612xany/public/media/2014%20Olympia/Mens%20Open%20Bodybuilding%20-%202014%20Olympia/IMG_5211.jpg?itok=DD6xyjr0)
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Kai doesn't look like this just standing there
when he's not in shape.
(http://www.flexonline.com/sites/flexonline.com/files/styles/gallery_slide_612xany/public/media/2014%20Olympia/Mens%20Open%20Bodybuilding%20-%202014%20Olympia/IMG_5211.jpg?itok=DD6xyjr0)
I hope his hair doesn't get caught in his ass crack
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Roelly thought he was guest posing.
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Winklaar's belly is beyond disgusting.
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They both are not worthy. As time goes by, standards just get worse. And it looks like Kai tore his left bicep at one time. Nobody ever mentions the gap he has there compared to his full right one. I noticed this years ago.
Anyway, things just keep devolving year by year. I am dissapoint.
Good point about the bicep. He mentioned a torn bicep in Generation Iron
and then one arm tied behind his back.
It made me wonder if he was referring to himself tearing his bicep at some
point.
Vince Taylor tore his bicep but you could never tell by looking at his arms.
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Phil has better lines on his legs, Kai has better lines on all other places.
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and the dog variety at that.
Wow they look really bad.
They both look like shit
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Too close to call between Phil and Kai, I give Kai a slight edge, but Phil gets it in the end I bet due to not having the grapefruit dark cloud.
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Actually looks good for being in a motorcycle crash.
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Actually looks good for being in a motorcycle crash.
Not sure how motorcycle accident and distended gut correlate to each other.
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you pointed out phils abs last year, what do you say about them now? getting worse year by year, even has a gut now. kid is burned out.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10665673_728927903823136_1447118131772695970_n.jpg?oh=47b7bcc3ab8c1820cf637b1a1b86959a&oe=54909653&__gda__=1418113893_fc149130d21162bb6164fc2d7db038fe)
He's not burned out he's showing the effect of slin and GH use just like all the rest who have been on it for years. BTW and nothing personal but he looks terrible.
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Phil looks like shit
Looks like he's shutting down already
Kai is easily better. Last year was close but kai won
Now he wins clearly when phil is off
But phil will probably win anyway
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Are these the best 2 Bodybuilders in the world right now? :-\
dude Kai looks FANTASTIC.
And no these aren't
the two best as of yesterday are... well let me give you three
KAI, SHAWN, BONAC
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I am a Kai fan but I wonder if Kai's color hurts him vs say Phil or Rhoden
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Kai wins
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Kay slightly ahead
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Kai needs to dry out!!!
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Jesus. I can barely stand bb anymore. Everyone looks fn stupid. On the front lat spread their most predominant feature is their protruding bellies. Both look retarded.
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Not sure how motorcycle accident and distended gut correlate to each other.
Look at him overall. People said he wouldn't be able to compete due to the accident.
Yes, he has a gut, and yes he's out of his usual condition, but he does look good for being completely effed up.
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honestly both their fls look bottom tier, kai looks spindly in the arms and something funky going on in one of them, phil is so narrow he actually looks narrower hitting it especially with his smaller delts
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you pointed out phils abs last year, what do you say about them now? getting worse year by year, even has a gut now. kid is burned out.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10665673_728927903823136_1447118131772695970_n.jpg?oh=47b7bcc3ab8c1820cf637b1a1b86959a&oe=54909653&__gda__=1418113893_fc149130d21162bb6164fc2d7db038fe)
people have posted this photo all over Phil's Facebook profile. He won't recover.
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people have posted this photo all over Phil's Facebook profile. He won't recover.
He will just respond with:
#haters
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Damn, Roelly looks like shit here. What the hell happened since his recent Chicago Pro win ???
http://www.flexonline.com/videos/general-news/2014-chicago-pro-champion-roelly-winklaar
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I was there not the greatest seats but Kai next to Phil, didn't seem like a stretch that Kai crushed him. Only bad pose for Kai was front abs, it showed his wide hips and gut.
Agreed. Just watched the prejudging. Kai is the clear winner (though politically he cannot win).
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Look at him overall. People said he wouldn't be able to compete due to the accident.
Yes, he has a gut, and yes he's out of his usual condition, but he does look good for being completely effed up.
They should have to answer questions like Miss America to make up for their lacking in the bikini portion of this pageant.
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Look at him overall. People said he wouldn't be able to compete due to the accident.
Yes, he has a gut, and yes he's out of his usual condition, but he does look good for being completely effed up.
From this perspective, yes, it's good that he continues to compete. I like him, at last years Olympia he made great showing, was dry and big, even his ugly midsection was sort of shaded by everything else that looked great. He deserved to be in top 6, but they decided to give it to old man Cutler before his leaving.
But he needs to make decisions with eyes wide open (jokes aside). Yesterday he looked like shit. If you're not ready, skip the competition, like Beyeke and McMillan did.
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Too close to call between Phil and Kai, I give Kai a slight edge, but Phil gets it in the end I bet due to not having the grapefruit dark cloud.
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Or the radical ponytail... ::)
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Roelly looks great here. Next to Ramy no less
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=550830.0;attach=579594;image)
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well since 2003 the Olympia has been judged on the biggest,most muscular and best conditioned BB
and in 2012 and even more so in 2014 this was Kai
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Roelly looks great here. Next to Ramy no less
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=550830.0;attach=579594;image)
When Roelly is in shape, he can hold his own. He can hold his own with the best in terms of arms. And he probably has the freakiest triceps to date.
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Emotionally, Phil's a child and his physique is deteriorating steadily.
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Roelly looks great here. Next to Ramy no less
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=550830.0;attach=579594;image)
Great abs during his mandatories, until he starts with the free posing... :-\
(http://www.flexonline.com/sites/flexonline.com/files/styles/gallery_slide_612xany/public/media/IFBB/2013%20Olympia%20Weekend/2013%20Mr.%20Olympia/IMG_8610.jpg?itok=RidcGN-d)
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Great abs during his mandatories, until he starts with the free posing... :-\
(http://www.flexonline.com/sites/flexonline.com/files/styles/gallery_slide_612xany/public/media/IFBB/2013%20Olympia%20Weekend/2013%20Mr.%20Olympia/IMG_8610.jpg?itok=RidcGN-d)
and he should fix that gyno