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Title: Does Phil Heath plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: Dr Kincaid on September 22, 2014, 02:27:24 AM
Fuck i hope not.

He has become a Black Branch.
He should save face and retire now.
His gut is blown open the way the way Ronnie's looked in 2005-6.

Title: Re: Does Phil plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: Skorp1o on September 22, 2014, 02:41:44 AM
Phil is gone.

Sometimes the bodybuilding lifestyle makes you peak quick but then the drugs start to have an opposite effect on the physique. Things just don't look right anymore, when you're in the lower end of you single BF digits yet have one smooth plank instead of abs and stomach imploding from the sides in certain shots....etc. It's over.
Title: Re: Does Phil plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: willl on September 22, 2014, 02:44:00 AM
phil's gut is the single best thing that happened to him
good thing it happened so fast
Title: Re: Does Phil plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: Dr Kincaid on September 22, 2014, 03:07:26 AM
His gut is blow open the way Ronnie's looked in 2005-6.
In Ron case was okay cause the schmoe was offered other Ebony treats to distract the eye.
Phil was a  pretty boy but now is ugly in the pretty parts. Like a Black Branch.
Title: Re: Does Phil plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: denarii on September 22, 2014, 03:51:25 AM
His head and hands will be bigger that's for sure
Title: Re: Does Phil plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: gracie bjj on September 22, 2014, 03:55:37 AM
same thing that happened to victor is happening to phil,hes on a downward spiral and there is nothing he can do,once the receptors are burned out u r finished
Title: Re: Does Phil plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: Simple Simon on September 22, 2014, 03:56:38 AM
same thing that happened to victor is happening to phil,hes on a downward spiral and there is nothing he can do,once the receptors are burned out u r finished

Although Victor did look much improved on previous showings this year.
Title: Re: Does Phil plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: gracie bjj on September 22, 2014, 04:08:17 AM
Although Victor did look much improved on previous showings this year.

true,but I think victor adjusted a few things in his diet and training and it showed nicely,as far as drug usage tho vic is not responding the way he used to back in the day,that must be discouraging as hell.i think we r seeing phil going thru same thing
Title: Re: Does Phil plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: Royalty on September 22, 2014, 04:15:32 AM
true,but I think victor adjusted a few things in his diet and training and it showed nicely,as far as drug usage tho vic is not responding the way he used to back in the day,that must be discouraging as hell.i think we r seeing phil going thru same thing


Phil is in a better position than Victor. Phil is a 4-time Mr O.
Title: Re: Does Phil plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: affeman on September 22, 2014, 05:18:01 AM
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Title: Re: Does Phil plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: mesmorph78 on September 22, 2014, 05:20:31 AM
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/DE3C228B-7830-4FA3-8EDF-996D8B6C63FD_zps12x0agl8.jpg) (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/lucas78/media/DE3C228B-7830-4FA3-8EDF-996D8B6C63FD_zps12x0agl8.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Does Phil plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: Parker on September 22, 2014, 05:31:41 AM
Bigger chest to offset the blurry abs.
Title: Re: Does Phil plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: Mr.1derful on September 22, 2014, 06:02:43 AM
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/DE3C228B-7830-4FA3-8EDF-996D8B6C63FD_zps12x0agl8.jpg) (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/lucas78/media/DE3C228B-7830-4FA3-8EDF-996D8B6C63FD_zps12x0agl8.jpg.html)

Ramy looked like a water balloon in prejudging.
Title: Re: Does Phil plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: WannaBePro on September 22, 2014, 06:31:31 AM
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2011 phil looked amazing! I remember when he first came out to do his night show routine and my jaw fucking dropped. 2013 he was close to 2011. But now he looks like complete shit. So does Kai. Rhoden should have won this O. I don't care if Rhoden doesn't have the "size". He's got plenty of size and very good shape to boot! Dennis needs to figure out how to fill out, but even flat he looked more impressive to me than Phil and Kai. I understand why he didn't get top 3 spot: lack of calves, flat, some imbalances in body parts. At least his gut was in check and he towers over everyone else  ;D
Title: Re: Does Phil plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: Papper on September 22, 2014, 09:40:02 AM
Phil when he beat jay was the best version

He had ok abs at that point

2014 is worst showing yet. I hope everyone at least sees that
Title: Re: Does Phil plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: SF1900 on September 22, 2014, 09:45:06 AM
All the Phil fans are melting down at oppositional voices ha lol.
Title: Re: Does Phil plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: Papper on September 22, 2014, 09:55:45 AM
All the Phil fans are melting down at oppositional voices ha lol.

Much like their idol ☺
Title: Re: Does Phil plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: 240 is Back on September 22, 2014, 09:59:11 AM
Phil won't be competing in 5 years.  We now see that the "big gut, smaller arms/shoulders" look that many see after a decade of competition... he's starting to get it.

There's no reversing it, particularly because Phil started so fast with the "super supplements".   He starts BBing and he's a pro in less than 2 years... he got on the gas fast and early, and has been running Jay's system since Jay taught him 5 years ago.   

Five years on the TOP PRO STACK when don't have a naturally developed bodybuilder base?   Now we see what happens.
Title: Re: Does Phil plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: 240 is Back on September 22, 2014, 10:06:19 AM
Phil will be very smart to focus on the "supplement game" and go out on top.   I said it the minute he walked out onto the Olympia stage... this could be it.  nobody has caught him (yet), but he's peaked and the decline is coming fast. 

Give it another year of stress - and running your own business is VERY VERY stressful - and hit body is going to age a great deal.  it's a fun idea to "Start my own supplement company!" but doing it while you're trying to fight aging, fight the problems that come with prolonged use (bigger belly and shrinking arms are obvious now)... it's TOUGH!

This will be the toughest year of Phil's bodybuilding career.  He's touchable now, and he'll soon realize that competing and getting 4th at the 2015 Olympia drops his company's value a TON... while retiring "ON TOP" to "focus on bringing this amazing supplement to the world!" might be the better move.  The toughest thing for an athlete is to realize when the best time to retire, in order to go out on top... in order to maximize post-competition value.

If Ronnie retires with win #8, he's the greatest ever.  Coming back to lose to "Jay" and then a pith 4th... not good moves.
Title: Re: Does Phil plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: el numero uno on September 22, 2014, 10:23:18 AM
Phil is insecure as hell, he won't retire before trying to shut up "the haters" at least a couple of times.
Title: Re: Does Phil plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: Neymar Barca on September 22, 2014, 10:32:30 AM
Phil will be very smart to focus on the "supplement game" and go out on top.   I said it the minute he walked out onto the Olympia stage... this could be it.  nobody has caught him (yet), but he's peaked and the decline is coming fast. 

Give it another year of stress - and running your own business is VERY VERY stressful - and hit body is going to age a great deal.  it's a fun idea to "Start my own supplement company!" but doing it while you're trying to fight aging, fight the problems that come with prolonged use (bigger belly and shrinking arms are obvious now)... it's TOUGH!

This will be the toughest year of Phil's bodybuilding career.  He's touchable now, and he'll soon realize that competing and getting 4th at the 2015 Olympia drops his company's value a TON... while retiring "ON TOP" to "focus on bringing this amazing supplement to the world!" might be the better move.  The toughest thing for an athlete is to realize when the best time to retire, in order to go out on top... in order to maximize post-competition value.

If Ronnie retires with win #8, he's the greatest ever.  Coming back to lose to "Jay" and then a pith 4th... not good moves.
yes you are right but look,Ronnie is a retarded mentality we all know that,he talked about finding a job as a pizza boy but he didnt mentioned that he already had 2 daughters with 2 different woman back then when he didnt have a job!so we all know what type of person he is! in his first training video from 1997 he drove some nice cars and talked how he wont ever quit his job as a police officer cause it is better then earning from ifbb...

and Phil Heath even if he retires TODAY he would be set for life,cause he is not stupid with money!now he is only "upgrading" his bank account!
hey he received 1 million dollar for signing for this company which have his name Gifted nutrition!dan solomon said it-it is the most lucrative signing in bodybuilding ever...before that he was receiving 500k a year from muscletech but i dont know is it before or after taxes,if it is after he was paid 250k a year which is nice
Title: Re: Does Phil plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: affeman on September 22, 2014, 10:37:53 AM
Phil looked like shit at Pre-Judging (food poisoning?) - At the finals on Saturday he was close to his all-time best again

(http://www.team-andro.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/191053/DSC_4392~6.jpg)
Title: Re: Does Phil plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: 240 is Back on September 22, 2014, 10:38:20 AM
yes you are right but look,Ronnie is a retarded mentality we all know that,he talked about finding a job as a pizza boy but he didnt mentioned that he already had 2 daughters with 2 different woman back then when he didnt have a job!so we all know what type of person he is! in his first training video from 1997 he drove some nice cars and talked how he wont ever quit his job as a police officer cause it is better then earning from ifbb...

and Phil Heath even if he retires TODAY he would be set for life,cause he is not stupid with money!now he is only "upgrading" his bank account!
hey he received 1 million dollar for signing for this company which have his name Gifted nutrition!dan solomon said it-it is the most lucrative signing in bodybuilding ever...before that he was receiving 500k a year from muscletech but i dont know is it before or after taxes,if it is after he was paid 250k a year which is nice

You definitely know your stuff!  Very accurate on the numbers there.

Title: Re: Does Phil plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: njflex on September 22, 2014, 10:43:03 AM
Ramy looked like a water balloon in prejudging.
ramy looks ridiculous here,,how is his waist so small relative to hold that leg mass,those things sweep like 2 pillars.
Title: Re: Does Phil plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: Dr Kincaid on September 23, 2014, 02:33:48 AM
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Put a fork in him he's done.
Title: Re: Does Phil plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: Cleanest Natural on September 23, 2014, 04:16:06 AM
Phil is gone.

Sometimes the bodybuilding lifestyle makes you peak quick but then the drugs start to have an opposite effect on the physique. Things just don't look right anymore, when you're in the lower end of you single BF digits yet have one smooth plank instead of abs and stomach imploding from the sides in certain shots....etc. It's over.
this
Title: Re: Does Phil plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: Simple Simon on September 23, 2014, 04:17:21 AM
this
Get in touch with him Sev, he needs your help for next year.
Title: Re: Does Phil plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: HonestBob on September 23, 2014, 04:56:26 AM
You definitely know your stuff!  Very accurate on the numbers there.



I was told Heath was on USD700k with muscletech by a friend who is a mid tier, but mid-upper level sponsored, pro.
Title: Re: Does Phil plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: Yanin on September 23, 2014, 10:12:35 AM
Funny how his body has changed from year to year yet he continues to win
Title: Re: Does Phil Heath plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: Ron on September 23, 2014, 10:20:17 AM

There is no question that Phil Heath will be back next year to defend his title.  He wants that 5th one.   Afterwards, it is anyone's guess.

But Phil will not let anyone beat him next year either.
Title: Re: Does Phil plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: SF1900 on September 23, 2014, 10:21:06 AM
Phil is gone.

Sometimes the bodybuilding lifestyle makes you peak quick but then the drugs start to have an opposite effect on the physique. Things just don't look right anymore, when you're in the lower end of you single BF digits yet have one smooth plank instead of abs and stomach imploding from the sides in certain shots....etc. It's over.

And Phil is only 34. This is the time that muscle maturity sets in and you start to make real gains. Instead, he is already regressing at 34. Just shows that he does not have the foundation for bodybuilding. He's ALL drugs. Hell, Dexter is still going to strong, so is Tony Freeman. Ronnie Coleman won his last Mr. O when he was 41.
Title: Re: Does Phil Heath plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: 240 is Back on September 23, 2014, 10:32:00 AM
There is no question that Phil Heath will be back next year to defend his title.  He wants that 5th one.   Afterwards, it is anyone's guess.

But Phil will not let anyone beat him next year either.


are you saying Phil told you, with a wink and a nod, that it'd be one more title, then sail off into the sunset on top?

Michael Jordan did the same thing - told one person he was going to play one more year then kept it a secret from everyone else.  He had to tell just a single person. 

After this close call, I could see him wanting to do that... one more for the 5th, then get out before the signs get too bad.
Title: Re: Does Phil Heath plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: Parker on September 23, 2014, 10:40:20 AM
I'll predict that Phil will get the ab thing correct, and will come in sharper. Why? Well, to shut up the haters, of course!
I think that the running of his business will take it's toll on him, and he will have to start picking which one he wants to put his time into.
Title: Re: Does Phil Heath plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: ENZO on September 23, 2014, 10:42:28 AM
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Title: Re: Does Phil Heath plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: Hulkotron on September 23, 2014, 11:17:43 AM
Would be great to deliver pizzas with Big Ron.
Title: Re: Does Phil Heath plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: Papper on September 23, 2014, 11:39:46 AM
All things point to it. Except the fact that it is so far a one time occurence.

But to list..

Smaller arms
Shot gut coming out to the sides
Diffuse conditioning
Face growing stronger and head appearin larger
That certain melting look
Aged look
Legs less full (not sure if phil displayed this tho)

But who cares, he is locked for another win. Just needs to set the alarm and show up.
Title: Re: Does Phil Heath plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: anabolichalo on September 23, 2014, 11:41:25 AM
i asked the most supreme bber i know what he thinks today


he said phil deservedly won as always and will continue doing so
Title: Re: Does Phil plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: Neymar Barca on September 23, 2014, 11:46:06 AM
You definitely know your stuff!  Very accurate on the numbers there.


are you beeing sarcastic,why my numbers arent accurate please,i listen to radio show on rx and md so if dan solomon said that is the most lucrative sponshorship deal in bodybuilding that phil signed why we cant believe that? also on rx aceto who is freind with cutler,said that phil was on 500k  year with muscle tech! you think palumbo doesnt know the numbers lololol
Title: Re: Does Phil Heath plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: Iceman1981 on September 23, 2014, 01:52:12 PM
I'm a fan of Phil, but I think he knows he's almost maxed out when it comes to mass. All he has to do is stay at this weight while bringing great conditioning and no one will beat him until he retires. Just my opinion.
Title: Re: Does Phil Heath plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: Papper on September 23, 2014, 02:08:59 PM
I'm a fan of Phil

Stopped reading right here
Title: Re: Does Phil Heath plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: Cleanest Natural on September 23, 2014, 03:05:26 PM
I'm a fan of Phil, but I think he knows he's almost maxed out when it comes to mass. All he has to do is stay at this weight while bringing great conditioning and no one will beat him until he retires. Just my opinion.
great opinion..already maxed out a few yeArs ago
Title: Re: Does Phil Heath plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: Rascal full on September 23, 2014, 03:30:52 PM
Bodybuilding is a disgrace giving the Olympia to this clown. What's the point of watching something that is blatantly fixed? Like watching a boxing match where one guy wins every round but the judges still give it to the other, more marketable guy. BULLSHIT.  
Title: Re: Does Phil Heath plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: old-school-lifter on September 23, 2014, 05:21:50 PM
as I predicted b4 the O
phil's regression would begin to become more evident this year

his best was 2011

as sev's pics show
its been downhill from there- he cant up the dose any more, it wont help him, he's burnt out and its all downhill from here
you can see in sev's pics, phil is actually getting narrower each year in FLS
Title: Re: Does Phil Heath plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: 240 is Back on September 23, 2014, 05:30:23 PM
are you beeing sarcastic,why my numbers arent accurate please,i listen to radio show on rx and md so if dan solomon said that is the most lucrative sponshorship deal in bodybuilding that phil signed why we cant believe that? also on rx aceto who is freind with cutler,said that phil was on 500k  year with muscle tech! you think palumbo doesnt know the numbers lololol

nope, i wasn't being sarcastic.  youre numbers are definitely accurate.   it was a brave move for phil to jump from a guaranteed half-mil a year to a supplement company startup.   For him to bring home half a mil in profit from a supp company would be amazing.
Title: Re: Does Phil Heath plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: Dr Kincaid on September 24, 2014, 01:15:15 AM
nope, i wasn't being sarcastic.  youre numbers are definitely accurate.   it was a brave move for phil to jump from a guaranteed half-mil a year to a supplement company startup.   For him to bring home half a mil in profit from a supp company would be amazing.

Very brave move, more than likely comes from listening to much to other people tell you about all the positive things to be gained from a supp line/ be your own boss/blah blah blah.
All for there own gain. ;)
I feel sorry for Phil & more sorry for the "sport".
I think training to win the O requires 100% dedication, Eat sleep shit Rocky 3 vibe.
I am sure Phil can see this now.
Must be panicked knowing what the next 12 months entail for his business, what maybe required to be competitive next year and leaving the sport losing the title. :P







 

 
Title: Re: Does Phil plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: Bevo on September 24, 2014, 01:23:42 AM
All the Phil fans are melting down at oppositional voices ha lol.

Kai fans are melting even more cause he didn't win
Title: Re: Does Phil plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: Simple Simon on September 24, 2014, 01:25:43 AM
Kai fans are melting even more cause he didn't win
Anyone who is a "fan" of a bodybuilder needs to get out more.
Title: Re: Does Phil plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: Zillotch on September 24, 2014, 01:26:49 AM
His head and hands will be bigger that's for sure

He's got a gigantic fucking nose. Gross looking human.
Title: Re: Does Phil plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: Bevo on September 24, 2014, 01:28:41 AM
Anyone who is a "fan" of a bodybuilder needs to get out more.

True I'm only a fan of Amanda Latona
Title: Re: Does Phil Heath plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: B R on September 24, 2014, 01:45:01 AM
He'll win again in 2015 and Flex, probably deservedly, will win the 212.
Title: Re: Does Phil Heath plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: stavios on September 24, 2014, 05:33:49 AM
There is no question that Phil Heath will be back next year to defend his title.  He wants that 5th one.   Afterwards, it is anyone's guess.

But Phil will not let anyone beat him next year either.


he just proved to everybody that he doesn't dominate shit.

a shredded Ramy would fuck him up so badly that he would look like an amateur next to him
Title: Re: Does Phil Heath plan on coming in bigger in 2015
Post by: 240 is Back on September 24, 2014, 06:23:14 AM
Very brave move, more than likely comes from listening to much to other people tell you about all the positive things to be gained from a supp line/ be your own boss/blah blah blah.
All for there own gain. ;)
I feel sorry for Phil & more sorry for the "sport".
I think training to win the O requires 100% dedication, Eat sleep shit Rocky 3 vibe.
I am sure Phil can see this now.
Must be panicked knowing what the next 12 months entail for his business, what maybe required to be competitive next year and leaving the sport losing the title. :P

Jumping from a guaranteed half a mil, to a supp field startup... VERY brave move. 

As there are more and more HINTS that 2015 Olympia will be Phil's LAST contest... Maybe it's starting to MAKE SENSE now. 

Take a million cash to start this new company, expect a win next year, and get out while health is still intact.