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Title: 2014 Olympia - After 30 Years - Goodbye IFBB - no way Heath won!
Post by: Trev on September 23, 2014, 02:56:01 AM
I've been a fan and follower of the IFBB for 30 years now and after watching this year's Olympia I think its time to stop......

The IFBB has completely lost its way. All the true bodybuilding values have gone. Its just about politics now and promoting their favourite puppets. No way Heath won and no way he is worthy of being a 4 time Mr Olympia. There are no personalities and its just like a re-run each year. With all the drugs these day most of the top guys can't hold their conditioning so by the time the free posing comes along, they are all smooth and look like shit.

IFBB - Take a look at the line ups of the past, particularly the early and mid '90's and maybe consider saving the sport before its too late. I am seeing Arnold in November when he comes to the Uk and I will be giving him my opinion (and the opinion of most fans it seems!)


Title: Re: After 30 Years - Goodbye IFBB
Post by: _aj_ on September 23, 2014, 02:59:13 AM
Emergency IFBB meeting this week to consider your threat.
Title: Re: After 30 Years - Goodbye IFBB
Post by: BodyConnoisseur on September 23, 2014, 03:03:39 AM
Couldn't you make this politics argument since the days of Arnold?
Title: Re: After 30 Years - Goodbye IFBB
Post by: visualizeperfection on September 23, 2014, 03:05:16 AM
I dont think the OPEE fully comprehends that no one gives a fuck.
Title: Re: After 30 Years - Goodbye IFBB
Post by: calfzilla on September 23, 2014, 03:08:05 AM
At least the 212 were better judged.
Title: Re: After 30 Years - Goodbye IFBB
Post by: Simple Simon on September 23, 2014, 03:10:34 AM
Does Ron know about this?
Title: Re: After 30 Years - Goodbye IFBB
Post by: Hulkotron on September 23, 2014, 03:22:07 AM
Saw this on CNN just now.
Title: Re: After 30 Years - Goodbye IFBB
Post by: calfzilla on September 23, 2014, 03:25:13 AM
It's a conspiracy. Who does Ifbb dislike? gh15. Who does gh15 dislike?  Generation nothingness filt.
Therefore ifbb makes Philsuline mr Olympia.
Title: Re: After 30 Years - Goodbye IFBB
Post by: Bevo on September 23, 2014, 03:26:57 AM
Yes branch warren should have been mr Olympia
Title: Re: After 30 Years - Goodbye IFBB
Post by: BayGBM on September 23, 2014, 05:12:17 AM
I've been a fan and follower of the IFBB for 30 years now and after watching this year's Olympia I think its time to stop......

The IFBB has completely lost its way. All the true bodybuilding values have gone. Its just about politics now and promoting their favourite puppets. No way Heath won and no way he is worthy of being a 4 time Mr Olympia. There are no personalities and its just like a re-run each year. With all the drugs these day most of the top guys can't hold their conditioning so by the time the free posing comes along, they are all smooth and look like shit.

IFBB - Take a look at the line ups of the past, particularly the early and mid '90's and maybe consider saving the sport before its too late. I am seeing Arnold in November when he comes to the Uk and I will be giving him my opinion (and the opinion of most fans it seems!)

Couldn't you make this politics argument since the days of Arnold?

x2.  Nothing new here. Bodybuilding has not changed, but you have.  Congratulations Trev.  You have grown up.  :)

But after 30 years of muscle addiction are you really going to quit now?  I doubt it.  :-\
Title: Re: After 30 Years - Goodbye IFBB
Post by: Trev on September 23, 2014, 06:33:18 AM
x2.  Nothing new here. Bodybuilding has not changed, but you have.  Congratulations Trev.  You have grown up.  :)

But after 30 years of muscle addiction are you really going to quit now?  I doubt it.  :-\

Has changed - No one can say the top 10 was in the correct order. 212 class was better. I'll continue bodybuilding but I'll still to local NABBA shows in the Uk now. Ifbb is fucked up
Title: Re: After 30 Years - Goodbye IFBB
Post by: Royalty on September 23, 2014, 07:05:30 AM
Has changed - No one can say the top 10 was in the correct order. 212 class was better. I'll continue bodybuilding but I'll still to local NABBA shows in the Uk now. Ifbb is fucked up


None of the bodybuilders in the IFBB care about their own health. (Branch has been on huge doses for over 20 years)

How much less do they care about losing you as a fan/spectator?
Title: Re: After 30 Years - Goodbye IFBB
Post by: Simple Simon on September 23, 2014, 07:07:52 AM
I've been a fan and follower of the IFBB for 30 years now and after watching this year's Olympia I think its time to stop......

The IFBB has completely lost its way. All the true bodybuilding values have gone. Its just about politics now and promoting their favourite puppets. No way Heath won and no way he is worthy of being a 4 time Mr Olympia. There are no personalities and its just like a re-run each year. With all the drugs these day most of the top guys can't hold their conditioning so by the time the free posing comes along, they are all smooth and look like shit.

IFBB - Take a look at the line ups of the past, particularly the early and mid '90's and maybe consider saving the sport before its too late. I am seeing Arnold in November when he comes to the Uk and I will be giving him my opinion (and the opinion of most fans it seems!)



Phil just got the news
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=442502.0;attach=486061;image)
Title: Re: After 30 Years - Goodbye IFBB
Post by: the trainer on September 23, 2014, 07:11:37 AM
I've been a fan and follower of the IFBB for 30 years now and after watching this year's Olympia I think its time to stop......

The IFBB has completely lost its way. All the true bodybuilding values have gone. Its just about politics now and promoting their favourite puppets. No way Heath won and no way he is worthy of being a 4 time Mr Olympia. There are no personalities and its just like a re-run each year. With all the drugs these day most of the top guys can't hold their conditioning so by the time the free posing comes along, they are all smooth and look like shit.

IFBB - Take a look at the line ups of the past, particularly the early and mid '90's and maybe consider saving the sport before its too late. I am seeing Arnold in November when he comes to the Uk and I will be giving him my opinion (and the opinion of most fans it seems!)




(http://soepic.pl/stor/items/1358389523890.jpg)
Title: Re: After 30 Years - Goodbye IFBB
Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 23, 2014, 07:30:36 AM
I've been a fan and follower of the IFBB for 30 years now and after watching this year's Olympia I think its time to stop......

The IFBB has completely lost its way. All the true bodybuilding values have gone. Its just about politics now and promoting their favourite puppets. No way Heath won and no way he is worthy of being a 4 time Mr Olympia. There are no personalities and its just like a re-run each year. With all the drugs these day most of the top guys can't hold their conditioning so by the time the free posing comes along, they are all smooth and look like shit.

IFBB - Take a look at the line ups of the past, particularly the early and mid '90's and maybe consider saving the sport before its too late. I am seeing Arnold in November when he comes to the Uk and I will be giving him my opinion (and the opinion of most fans it seems!)




I'm wondering which guys do you think should've beaten Phil in the last four years?

While not the greatest bber of all time, IMO, he's been the best of this current bunch.
Title: Re: 2014 Olympia - After 30 Years - Goodbye IFBB - no way Heath won!
Post by: Ron on September 23, 2014, 10:40:37 AM

So because it is split 50-50 on how should of won the Olympia (Phil Heath vs. Kai Greene) and you didn't get your way, the IFBB has lost its way.  Um no... many who were there saw Phil win over Kai.  Phil's back was incredible.  And while this may not have been Phil at his best, Kai was thick, but started off slow (and then gained sharpness). 

Title: Re: 2014 Olympia - After 30 Years - Goodbye IFBB - no way Heath won!
Post by: Parker on September 23, 2014, 10:45:10 AM
I've been a fan and follower of the IFBB for 30 years now and after watching this year's Olympia I think its time to stop......

The IFBB has completely lost its way. All the true bodybuilding values have gone. Its just about politics now and promoting their favourite puppets. No way Heath won and no way he is worthy of being a 4 time Mr Olympia. There are no personalities and its just like a re-run each year. With all the drugs these day most of the top guys can't hold their conditioning so by the time the free posing comes along, they are all smooth and look like shit.

IFBB - Take a look at the line ups of the past, particularly the early and mid '90's and maybe consider saving the sport before its too late. I am seeing Arnold in November when he comes to the Uk and I will be giving him my opinion (and the opinion of most fans it seems!)



News flash, Dorian Yates won with one good arm in the 90s. Let me repeat that, one good arm.
Title: Re: 2014 Olympia - After 30 Years - Goodbye IFBB - no way Heath won!
Post by: Papper on September 23, 2014, 12:00:31 PM
Since phil now has 4 sandows.. beating jay. I am not recognizing the mr o as a real title anymore.

it is not even plausable to award him the highest title in the world with that 2014 package.

Standards have gone out the window!
Title: Re: 2014 Olympia - After 30 Years - Goodbye IFBB - no way Heath won!
Post by: njflex on September 23, 2014, 12:16:25 PM
THE MRO HAS NEVER BEEN FAIR ALWAYS SOME CONTRAVERSY.BREAK DOWN EACH WINNER ALL THERE WINS I'M SURE THEY WON SOME THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE,,
Title: Re: 2014 Olympia - After 30 Years - Goodbye IFBB - no way Heath won!
Post by: visualizeperfection on September 23, 2014, 01:05:53 PM
Since phil now has 4 sandows.. beating jay. I am not recognizing the mr o as a real title anymore.

it is not even plausable to award him the highest title in the world with that 2014 package.

Standards have gone out the window!

I love jay.


But lets be real.


Phils worst is better O is better than Jay's worst O.

Jays best is only a little bit better than Phils best (so far).
Title: Re: 2014 Olympia - After 30 Years - Goodbye IFBB - no way Heath won!
Post by: Papper on September 23, 2014, 02:02:22 PM
I love jay.


But lets be real.


Phils worst is better O is better than Jay's worst O.

Jays best is only a little bit better than Phils best (so far).

Well yes.. jays best is better than heaths best.

jays worst towards the end is worse than phils worst but the gap is closing this year. Jay never showed a gut like phils except for some rare pics.

I agree jay should have maybe two titles.

But jay is solid, big, proportioned and complete. He had conditioning issues and a blocky waist as his drawbacks. But he had a mr o type herculean physique for a long time.. I can see that they rewarded that.

Dont get me started on phil.

Title: Re: After 30 Years - Goodbye IFBB
Post by: Alpine on September 23, 2014, 02:23:21 PM
Emergency IFBB meeting this week to consider your threat.

SOLID FUCKING GETBIG GOLD.

Get this man a smoked turkey leg.
Title: Re: After 30 Years - Goodbye IFBB
Post by: Papper on September 23, 2014, 02:29:49 PM
Emergency IFBB meeting this week to consider your threat.

 ;D
Title: Re: After 30 Years - Goodbye IFBB
Post by: Papper on September 23, 2014, 02:30:37 PM
Couldn't you make this politics argument since the days of Arnold?

Definitely.

But who really beat Arnold?
Title: Re: 2014 Olympia - After 30 Years - Goodbye IFBB - no way Heath won!
Post by: Mr.Mojo on September 23, 2014, 02:43:59 PM
Mr.O  1982  Casey Viator was for me the winner, instead they placed him behind Dickerson and Zane
Mr.O  1980  Danny Padilla placed 10th, only overlooked ?
Mr.O  1981  Padilla placed 4th, he looked better than the winner Franco Columbu
Mr.O  1979  Mentzer vs. Zane
Mr.O  1980  Arnold the winner, one of the most controversial and debated competitions in bodybuilding history
Mr.O  1985  Beckles second at twice Haney’s age, he should have won
Mr.O  2002  Gunter Schlierkamp 5th  must be a joke

Just a few, cant remember all of them and its just my opinion...dont crucify me.

Mr.O 2014  Phil Heath is not a champ and the way he acts multiplys the dislike
Title: Re: 2014 Olympia - After 30 Years - Goodbye IFBB - no way Heath won!
Post by: Papper on September 23, 2014, 02:56:27 PM
I always thought 1980 was a questionable win for Arnold. then I realized, Arnold only looked worse compared to his own best.

I don't see how the smaller Mentzer beat him with a flatter chest, worse arms and shoulder and and no better legs or at least not much better.

But Platz looked awesome in the movie.
Title: Re: 2014 Olympia - After 30 Years - Goodbye IFBB - no way Heath won!
Post by: Mr.1derful on September 23, 2014, 04:07:54 PM
I've been a fan and follower of the IFBB for 30 years now and after watching this year's Olympia I think its time to stop......

The IFBB has completely lost its way. All the true bodybuilding values have gone. Its just about politics now and promoting their favourite puppets. No way Heath won and no way he is worthy of being a 4 time Mr Olympia. There are no personalities and its just like a re-run each year. With all the drugs these day most of the top guys can't hold their conditioning so by the time the free posing comes along, they are all smooth and look like shit.

IFBB - Take a look at the line ups of the past, particularly the early and mid '90's and maybe consider saving the sport before its too late. I am seeing Arnold in November when he comes to the Uk and I will be giving him my opinion (and the opinion of most fans it seems!)




Please accept a complimentary crying towel courtesy of Gifted Nutrition.
Title: Re: 2014 Olympia - After 30 Years - Goodbye IFBB - no way Heath won!
Post by: 6 Reps on September 23, 2014, 08:48:27 PM
You know what I think the letters "IFBB" stand for:

I Fuck Body Builders

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2014 Olympia - After 30 Years - Goodbye IFBB - no way Heath won!
Post by: The Ugly on September 23, 2014, 08:51:59 PM
Happens every year, dudes bitching about the judges. Not saying there aren't legitimate gripes some years, but how can you possibly be surprised?
Title: Re: 2014 Olympia - After 30 Years - Goodbye IFBB - no way Heath won!
Post by: The Grim Lifter on September 24, 2014, 05:19:37 AM
The problem is Kai is bigger than Phil, condition similar and neither structure is as good as greats past.

Haney outsized everyone in his day
Dorian at least outsized and out conditioned the competition
Ronnie outsized everyone and early on outsized and outconditioned Nasser

Phil doesn't
Title: Re: 2014 Olympia - After 30 Years - Goodbye IFBB - no way Heath won!
Post by: rudylrichards on September 24, 2014, 01:09:05 PM
Mr.O  1985  Beckles second at twice Haney’s age, he should have won
What are you smoking  ???  I've never heard anyone say that! Should they have factored in his age & given him points for that ?  Beckles had great bicep peaks, that was it. Haney had great chest, back, much bigger with a smaller waist than Beckles & he beat him in every single pose, even front double bicep.

Besides, there was not proof of Beckles age, he didn't even know how old he was.
Title: Re: 2014 Olympia - After 30 Years - Goodbye IFBB - no way Heath won!
Post by: rudylrichards on September 24, 2014, 01:10:59 PM
So because it is split 50-50 on how should of won the Olympia (Phil Heath vs. Kai Greene) and you didn't get your way, the IFBB has lost its way.  Um no... many who were there saw Phil win over Kai.  Phil's back was incredible.  And while this may not have been Phil at his best, Kai was thick, but started off slow (and then gained sharpness). 


X2, except it was more like a 60/40 split for Phil.
Title: Re: 2014 Olympia - After 30 Years - Goodbye IFBB - no way Heath won!
Post by: GraniteCityDon on September 24, 2014, 02:17:39 PM
Bertil, IMO, dominated the O in 83 and was shafted purely for political reasons. Worst i have seen:

Above comp

Jay beating Victor in 07

Ronnie beating Jay in 01


Title: Re: 2014 Olympia - After 30 Years - Goodbye IFBB - no way Heath won!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 24, 2014, 02:36:39 PM
Bertil, IMO, dominated the O in 83 and was shafted purely for political reasons. Worst i have seen:

Above comp

Jay beating Victor in 07

Ronnie beating Jay in 01




LMAO ' dominated '

Bertil looked great in a couple of poses , people talk about Heath being narrow? Here he is being dominated by a but who weighs 188lbs
Title: Re: 2014 Olympia - After 30 Years - Goodbye IFBB - no way Heath won!
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on September 24, 2014, 03:20:53 PM
Heath won, that is not in question.  The question is how did anyone get allowed to win when they failed to look good.
Title: Re: 2014 Olympia - After 30 Years - Goodbye IFBB - no way Heath won!
Post by: Benito Mutumbo on September 24, 2014, 07:44:16 PM
Another lowlife of this was Freddy Smalls.  The worst competitor ever on the Olympia stage.
His posing routine was horrific.
Title: Re: 2014 Olympia - After 30 Years - Goodbye IFBB - no way Heath won!
Post by: Trev on September 26, 2014, 05:19:17 AM
So because it is split 50-50 on how should of won the Olympia (Phil Heath vs. Kai Greene) and you didn't get your way, the IFBB has lost its way.  Um no... many who were there saw Phil win over Kai.  Phil's back was incredible.  And while this may not have been Phil at his best, Kai was thick, but started off slow (and then gained sharpness). 



Not the case, its all politics now and the IFBB just want their Pretty Boy yes man puppet in the number one spot. The judging criteria has been getting lost for years and now the physiques are not judged properly at all. My result would see Shawn Rhoden up there so its nothing to do with the top 2 result this year its just the constant supporting of who takes the most drugs. Its bodybuilding not gut building  -  Most of the top 10 look like shit!