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Vote yes or no.
My vote is yes.
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Early stages it seems.
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No. He simply had an off show, for him. All Mr. O's of recent memory have had shows where they were not at their best. Typically, Phil comes in with very crisp conditioning. Any deviation is more notable for him, especially as champ. People get bored of champions that win year after year, almost hoping for a champions decline.
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No. He simply had an off show, for him. All Mr. O's of recent memory have had shows where they were not at their best. Typically, Phil comes in with very crisp conditioning. Any deviation is more notable for him, especially as champ. People get bored of champions that win year after year, almost hoping for a champions decline.
Hi phil.
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Midsection appeared to be showing signs.
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Midsection appeared to be showing signs.
Yeah there appears to be some growing outward from the obliques and abs.
Could have just been an off showing tho.
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Midsection appeared to be showing signs.
He was smooth as silk too. Someone actually posted a side by side with a prime Palumbo and it was scary how close they resembled each other. It's only a matter of time now.
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Without a doubt. He's showing all the signs already so I think he has maxed out his potential and it will all be backwards from here.
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Someone please post one of those heads reversed pics on Polumbo vs Heath! :)
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Definitely yes
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Phil winning his 9th Mr Olympia.
Going for the grainy look.
(http://i.imgur.com/vVsjW9D.jpg)
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I don't think Phil has palumboism, just a bad outing. In 2011 he looked incredible. 2012 he looked like crap, barely any ab separation and holding a bit of water. 2013 he looked good again, not as good as good as 2011, but good. And, of course, 2014 he looked even worse than 2012. I think he's just getting comfortable being the champ and isn't dieting (amongst other things) as hard as he did the first time he won, when he was hungry for the title.
I bet if he does next year what he did in 2011 he'd be his all-time best, unfortunately it seems the judges will reward him no matter what he looks like, and hence I don't expect him to come back looking anything close to his all-time best.
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Phil's been a pro for TEN YEARS now. Well, 9 and a half. He's been on Jay's super secret stack for a lot of that time - remember he crashed with Jay for a bit, learned the ropes, and voila, became a top pro overnight.
And he didn't have 15 years of natural "base" bodybuilding training, like you see with a kai or a ronnie. They took their natural ceiling to the max, THEN got on the pro stack. Phil went from 1st show to winning pro card in what, 18 months?
So yeah, at some point, his arms, shoulders, calves will peak, and his midsection will begin to expand. it's not a knock on phil, it's just science.
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Phil is done.
He just has more buffer material on his arms before the disease will fully devour him.
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Vote yes or no.
My vote is yes.
We're all born to die.
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No. He simply had an off show, for him. All Mr. O's of recent memory have had shows where they were not at their best. Typically, Phil comes in with very crisp conditioning. Any deviation is more notable for him, especially as champ. People get bored of champions that win year after year, almost hoping for a champions decline.
lol...
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I am sure he also didn't diet as hard. You can tell from his face he has that insulin bloat rather than lean sunken cheeks and jaw muscle striations.
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Also polumboism is not just bad dieting. It is actual skeletal deformity from hg a g insulin overuse.
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Also polumboism is not just bad dieting. It is actual skeletal deformity from hg a g insulin overuse.
Theres more to it than just skeletal deformity. Arms drastically shrink and there seems to be massive and permanent expansion of the waist. Muscle quality diminishes too.
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Early signs, that ceramic-like skin, disappearing abs, deflated limbs, bloated midsection with blown out obliques... He was able to recover somehow with SEO and other things for the Finals, but the future seems not bright for him...
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As long as his body keeps excepting NOLOTIL, he's able to "hide" the onset of Palumboism. Cutler had to quit altogether because the Nolotil and SEO oil turned on Cutler.
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NO
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Phil's been a pro for TEN YEARS now. Well, 9 and a half. He's been on Jay's super secret stack for a lot of that time - remember he crashed with Jay for a bit, learned the ropes, and voila, became a top pro overnight.
And he didn't have 15 years of natural "base" bodybuilding training, like you see with a kai or a ronnie. They took their natural ceiling to the max, THEN got on the pro stack. Phil went from 1st show to winning pro card in what, 18 months?
So yeah, at some point, his arms, shoulders, calves will peak, and his midsection will begin to expand. it's not a knock on phil, it's just science.
x2. Once his arms give out, hes done. Every other bodypart on Phil is average. Average chest, average back, average shoulders, average legs (quads, hams and calves). Once his arms loose his appeal, he's done for. I mean, you cant even compare Phils chest, back, shoulders and legs to someone like Ronnie lol. Its laughable. Other than his arms, he has a very "average" physique for a Mr. Olympia.
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x2. Once his arms give out, hes done. Every other bodypart on Phil is average. Average chest, average back, average shoulders, average legs (quads, hams and calves). Once his arms loose his appeal, he's done for. I mean, you cant even compare Phils chest, back, shoulders and legs to someone like Ronnie lol. Its laughable. Other than his arms, he has a very "average" physique for a Mr. Olympia.
not only that, but we all know people are PUNISHED when they fall off. Everyone LOVES a story at the O, cause there usually isn't one.
"Phil is off, phil is off!" Those words would echo about 50,000 times.
This will be the most stressful year of Phil's life. Scrape by on the O, really lose a lot of respect from the fans for instigating a confrontation with Kai. And starting a new business, that's huge. And facing the expanding stomach and shrinking arms. And it's been ten years on a modern pro stack - HOW MANY bodybuilders can do that these days?
Who turned pro in 2005/2006 with phil? How many guys from that time period have run ALL OUT for almost a decade now? how many have burned out?
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bertil fox kills him at his best.
on stage I mean.
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bertil fox kills him at his best.
on stage I mean.
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/w_C6w6l_ees/0.jpg)
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Midsection appeared to be showing signs.
This.
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bertil fox kills him at his best.
on stage I mean.
Naughty humor - you need sensitivity training asap. >:(
:D
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bertil fox kills him at his best.
on stage I mean.
Beef it Betil.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=162370.0;wap2
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Of course yes.
Typical symptom showing now.
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(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/w_C6w6l_ees/0.jpg)
:D :D
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Beef it Betil.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=162370.0;wap2
Thanks for posting this. So much exaggerated bullshit in that thread , it should continue dieing in the null void
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I wonder to what extent Kai psyched him out. Could that affect his physique that quick?
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I wonder to what extent Kai psyched him out. Could that affect his physique that quick?
definitely. has phil ever been in a fight? I mean sure, basketball practice scrapping, yeah... but with arms like that, playing sports, I bet Phil didn't have to fend off too many bullies in school.
Kai was homeless in NYC... methinks it made his skin a little thicker.
kai ourweighed phil by 15 pounds, at least.... and REMEMBER... Big/strong isn't scared of Big/strong. Big/Strong is scared of CRAZY.
Kai is big/strong, and he is crazy as fck. Phil KNOWS that kai could have bodyslammed him, and at worst, he's look at ejection... although if they let phil cross the line that much, they might just keep Kai in the show lol.
Kai would lose 100k in prize money, but wow, the endorsements? The craziest man in BBing... Urf'ing the reigning Mr O in Vegas with NBC and the world watching... major possibilities there. Rematch City!
Phil knows this. It all went thru his head when Kai squared up. The super nervous smile, staring to the judges, pointing to tattle... he was scared, as any of us would have been. That blood rose, his testes recoiled, and his face changed. Major cortisol spike. And Kai? LOL he thrived on it... he was leaner, meaner and sporting half a boner after the near-fight. After 5 years of hearing Phil trashing him to FANS about the grapefruit, no doubt kai would LOVE to break phil's nose.
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Kai is an idiot. He keeps coming in heavier, and loses, but he expects for there to be a different result each time. He needs to be conditioned. How many Olympias does he want to lose until he gets this?
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Didnt Phil Heath say he was a Black Belt in Martial Arts ??? or was that his StepSON ?
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240 yeah you could see it. Phil was shit scared but also conscious of his stage appearance so tried to laugh it off. But yeah I think it fucked him up somewhat.
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Stage 1 2014
Stage 2 2015
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Vote yes or no.
My vote is yes.
He has a new version of it called Heathism.
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Maybe he can sort out that fucking gut next year but I doubt it. All drugs son!
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Kai is an idiot. He keeps coming in heavier, and loses, but he expects for there to be a different result each time. He needs to be conditioned. How many Olympias does he want to lose until he gets this?
no coming back, it'd be worse while going like this gets worse and worse .. either way he maxed out a few years ago like Philsulin
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I would say he probably has stage one. Reduced lats insertions, larger rin cage, shrinking biceps fullness, loss of abs definition and Polumboism of the nose.
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I don't think Phil has palumboism, just a bad outing. In 2011 he looked incredible. 2012 he looked like crap, barely any ab separation and holding a bit of water. 2013 he looked good again, not as good as good as 2011, but good. And, of course, 2014 he looked even worse than 2012. I think he's just getting comfortable being the champ and isn't dieting (amongst other things) as hard as he did the first time he won, when he was hungry for the title.
I bet if he does next year what he did in 2011 he'd be his all-time best, unfortunately it seems the judges will reward him no matter what he looks like, and hence I don't expect him to come back looking anything close to his all-time best.
So out of 4 Olympia wins he looked Good in one 2011 & reasonable in 2013,
Probably says more about judging standards & keeping with the current Olympia
Winner.
The judging needs to be addressed as this year the comparison rounds were far to
Short with very few comparisons.
Who wouldn't of wanted to see side by side comparison of ramy & the top 4.
As a competitor & judge I saw it as very flawed.
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I would say he probably has stage one. Reduced lats insertions, larger rin cage, shrinking biceps fullness, loss of abs definition and Polumboism of the nose.
there are stages now? haha
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Olympia 2015 he will be mistaken for a black Greg Kovacs.
*Except a dwarfy undead version.
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idiots. to answer, no phil doesnt have palumboism
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there are stages now? haha
There have always been stages. Palumbism is a 4 stage disorder. The 4th stage being the end game.
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No. Like a couple of other posts have already said, just a bad outing. He looked much better at the finals as seen here with his posing routine.
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There have always been stages. Palumbism is a 4 stage disorder. The 4th stage being the end game.
This is stage 4. No turning back at this point.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ibi7uKNILk0/UpVzW_9ze-I/AAAAAAAATmo/a2yfyBQPOi4/s1600/Greg+Kovacs+worst+physique.png)
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There have always been stages. Palumbism is a 4 stage disorder. The 4th stage being the end game.
My bad I guess i'm not as familiar with the disorder as I should be.
But from what I do know after this stage 4 you take the dirt nap that Kovacs did. Phil still has another 5 years till it really gets noticeable..
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This is stage 4. No turning back at this point.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ibi7uKNILk0/UpVzW_9ze-I/AAAAAAAATmo/a2yfyBQPOi4/s1600/Greg+Kovacs+worst+physique.png)
No way, that's stage 3....the midsection is noticeably thicker and the peripheral limbs are beginning to atrophy, but the muscle bellies haven't begun shortening.
This is the reference point for stage 4 Palumboism, characterized by muscle shortening throughout all muscle groups:
(http://i.imgur.com/fxgpTiW.jpg?1)
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definitely. has phil ever been in a fight? I mean sure, basketball practice scrapping, yeah... but with arms like that, playing sports, I bet Phil didn't have to fend off too many bullies in school.
Kai was homeless in NYC... methinks it made his skin a little thicker.
kai ourweighed phil by 15 pounds, at least.... and REMEMBER... Big/strong isn't scared of Big/strong. Big/Strong is scared of CRAZY.
Kai is big/strong, and he is crazy as fck. Phil KNOWS that kai could have bodyslammed him, and at worst, he's look at ejection... although if they let phil cross the line that much, they might just keep Kai in the show lol.
Kai would lose 100k in prize money, but wow, the endorsements? The craziest man in BBing... Urf'ing the reigning Mr O in Vegas with NBC and the world watching... major possibilities there. Rematch City!
Phil knows this. It all went thru his head when Kai squared up. The super nervous smile, staring to the judges, pointing to tattle... he was scared, as any of us would have been. That blood rose, his testes recoiled, and his face changed. Major cortisol spike. And Kai? LOL he thrived on it... he was leaner, meaner and sporting half a boner after the near-fight. After 5 years of hearing Phil trashing him to FANS about the grapefruit, no doubt kai would LOVE to break phil's nose.
great acurrate posts here
Phil pussied out- he tried to point to Kai to blame kai for it but it was phil who instigated the whole thing
believe me, Kai was going to punch him but kai had the nerve to hold back
Kai would KO phil
Kai can actually fight @ that size
phil would be so slow lifting that big arm- he's literally musclebound
Kai has martial arts training and street fighting background
phil is a college b. ball player from a middle class background
Phil pussied out
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No way, that's stage 3....the midsection is noticeably thicker and the peripheral limbs are beginning to atrophy, but the muscle bellies haven't begun shortening.
This is the reference point for stage 4 Palumboism, characterized by muscle shortening throughout all muscle groups:
(http://i.imgur.com/fxgpTiW.jpg?1)
Damn, didn't think anyone can look worse than Kovacs in that picture. :-X :-X
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great acurrate posts here
Phil pussied out- he tried to point to Kai to blame kai for it but it was phil who instigated the whole thing
believe me, Kai was going to punch him but kai had the nerve to hold back
Kai would KO phil
Kai can actually fight @ that size
phil would be so slow lifting that big arm- he's literally musclebound
Kai has martial arts training and street fighting background
phil is a college b. ball player from a middle class background
Phil pussied out
If Kai was willing to push it to the edge - at the O, with 100k on the line - imagine what happens if Phil makes a grapefruit joke when they're both at an expo in Orlando or Idaho.
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Phil winning his 9th Mr Olympia.
Going for the grainy look.
(http://i.imgur.com/vVsjW9D.jpg)
I will buy this if it lives in an aquarium.