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Title: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: 240 is Back on September 24, 2014, 08:44:10 PM
All of the offseason photos that appeared to show a slimmed down LeBron James were accurate, and the Cleveland Cavaliers superstar has a strict and lengthy diet to thank for it.

In an interview with CNN's Rachel Nichols that will air on Friday, James detailed his offseason weight loss, admitting: "I haven't been in this weight class." When asked to put a number on it, James said he's roughly 250 pounds, which he says is "a lot lighter than I've been playing at the last few years."

Media guides wouldn't necessarily back that up. The 2010-11 and 2013-14 Miami Heat media guides both listed James at 250 pounds, but there's nothing suggesting those are always completely accurate. The important thing is that "I feel good," in the words of James, and "that's not such a good thing for the competition."

So how'd he do it? From the interview:

The diet was strict, right?

Very strict. 67 days.

And what did you eat or not eat?

I'll tell you what I couldn't have. No carbs, no sugar, no dairy, no refined sugar. No nothing. Meat, fish, veggies, fruit.

What was the hardest thing to give up?

It was either pancakes or chocolate chip cookies and ice cream.

You can watch a four-minute clip of the interview below:
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: the trainer on September 24, 2014, 08:59:35 PM
He says he cannot have any carbs but he was eating fruits is lebron aware that fruits contain carbs.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: calfzilla on September 24, 2014, 09:36:36 PM
He says he cannot have any carbs but he was eating fruits is lebron aware that fruits contain carbs.

Nope. Most people aren't  :-\
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: ChopperRider on September 24, 2014, 09:41:36 PM
He says he cannot have any carbs but he was eating fruits is lebron aware that fruits contain carbs.

I asked him and he said.....you're a jism gulping fucking retard gimmick.

HTH.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: Mr.1derful on September 25, 2014, 05:23:58 AM
67 days of no PED's.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: SwolenUp on September 25, 2014, 06:07:17 AM
He says he cannot have any carbs but he was eating fruits is lebron aware that fruits contain carbs.

Well I be damn. I learn something new everyday. Now I know why I haven't been losing any weight on the Atkins Diet.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 25, 2014, 08:12:39 AM
He looks like he lost a lot of muscle. So many people diet down too hard and in the process lose muscle. I can't wait to see if the lost weigh translates into a better player or he's going to play like crap because of the lost muscle.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: Pray_4_War on September 25, 2014, 08:45:56 AM
67 days of no PED's.

Winner, winner.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: Nails on September 25, 2014, 09:02:41 AM
he was on the Phil Heath After Olympia diet
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 25, 2014, 10:33:49 AM
He looks like he lost a lot of muscle. So many people diet down too hard and in the process lose muscle. I can't wait to see if the lost weigh translates into a better player or he's going to play like crap because of the lost muscle.

I don't think a Keto diet is a good idea for a basketball player. Things like running a fast break or going up for a rebound, IMO, are glycogen energy system activities.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: Pray_4_War on September 25, 2014, 11:02:35 AM
God I fucking hate the smug look that Rachel Nichols always has on her stupid face.  Fat kunt.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: 240 is Back on September 25, 2014, 01:12:06 PM
Dwyane Wade was in the building earlier today running hard on the zero-gravity treadmill.

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Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on September 25, 2014, 01:23:17 PM
Dwyane Wade was in the building earlier today running hard on the zero-gravity treadmill.

Miami HEAT Media Day is tomorrow and Training Camp opens Saturday! Share this post to show your excitement for the upcoming season!

Why bother.  he'll play 23 games this season
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: calfzilla on September 25, 2014, 02:29:45 PM
God I fucking hate the smug look that Rachel Nichols always has on her stupid face.  Fat kunt.

I thought there are leaked iCloud nudes of her, where are they?
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: Smokincrazy on September 25, 2014, 02:33:18 PM
67 days of no PED's.
Very true. He is off growth.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: jude2 on September 25, 2014, 06:52:22 PM
Very true. He is off growth.
We have a few smart ones here.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: Pray_4_War on September 25, 2014, 06:53:35 PM
I thought there are leaked iCloud nudes of her, where are they?

I don't want to see that fugly pig naked.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on September 25, 2014, 08:19:08 PM
Smart of him to lighten up, that oughta add a few years to his prime
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: 240 is Back on September 25, 2014, 08:34:40 PM
Very true. He is off growth.

just a coincidence that a celeb sports GH doc in miami is busted, and lebron loses 40 pounds of muscle.  

And that Wade, Mr. GH Jaw himself, also chooses this exact time to lose 20 pounds...
http://www.hothothoops.com/2014/7/20/5921519/dwyane-wade-posts-before-and-after-pics-during-offseason-diet
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: visualizeperfection on September 25, 2014, 08:36:18 PM
just a coincidence that a celeb sports GH doc in miami is busted, and lebron loses 40 pounds of muscle. 

well cutting non fruit based carbs has known to instantly deteriorate ones body.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: POB on September 25, 2014, 09:07:44 PM
67 days of no PED's.

Started adderall, ::)
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: 240 is Back on September 25, 2014, 09:42:07 PM
Started adderall, ::)

ooh you might be on to something there.   has that look when he talks... super alert, and that look to his body too.   could be it. 

richard sherman approved.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: ChopperRider on September 25, 2014, 09:44:41 PM
I would like to see Lebron turn out to be a colossal failure in Cleveland......
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: Mobil on September 25, 2014, 10:23:38 PM
he was somewhat lean bullked up... he looks the same lean except skinny... just got off the juice and hgh
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: jude2 on September 26, 2014, 07:08:09 PM
just a coincidence that a celeb sports GH doc in miami is busted, and lebron loses 40 pounds of muscle.  

And that Wade, Mr. GH Jaw himself, also chooses this exact time to lose 20 pounds...
http://www.hothothoops.com/2014/7/20/5921519/dwyane-wade-posts-before-and-after-pics-during-offseason-diet
The NBA will really do their best to hide this, if their names are on the list. They don't want to be like the pro baseball.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: Hypertrophy on September 26, 2014, 07:14:35 PM
just a coincidence that a celeb sports GH doc in miami is busted, and lebron loses 40 pounds of muscle.  

And that Wade, Mr. GH Jaw himself, also chooses this exact time to lose 20 pounds...
http://www.hothothoops.com/2014/7/20/5921519/dwyane-wade-posts-before-and-after-pics-during-offseason-diet

THIS^^^^
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: njflex on September 26, 2014, 07:27:22 PM
remember jason giambi'bullshit story pituraty gland issue'loses weight due to it and has to take a break 'dl stint'yeah right he came off and it crushed his strenght/stamina/ability to stay the way he was ,he must have juiced hard for yrs..
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: Ron Jeremy on September 26, 2014, 07:55:22 PM
James is one ofthe greatest athletes to ever walk the earth. Period. Is it possible he has taken growth or peds? Of course. But, it is not a given like bodybuilding , powerlitting or even football. For most, if not all on this board, it is hard to comprehend possessing that kind of ability. How many of you midgets are 6'8", 250 with a 48 vertical (out of high school)?
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: jude2 on September 26, 2014, 08:02:12 PM
James is one ofthe greatest athletes to ever walk the earth. Period. Is it possible he has taken growth or peds? Of course. But, it is not a given like bodybuilding , powerlitting or even football. For most, if not all on this board, it is hard to comprehend possessing that kind of ability. How many of you midgets are 6'8", 250 with a 48 vertical (out of high school)?
He wish he was 250 coming out of high school.  GH is the PEDS of choice for basketball players, not for size but recovery.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: 240 is Back on September 26, 2014, 08:38:50 PM
i'm convinced Wade used GH.   we see how bodybiulders' hands grow.  We see Barry Bonds head and feet size increase.

And we see Wade's jaw growing.  In a huge way.  Asymmetrical manner as well.  Just as his body has become super muscular and stronger/faster - after knee injuries - as he passes age 30... just as he's better than he was a decade ago...

that jaw growth, sorry, I'm convinced.  And lebron blew up in muscle when he arrived in Miami too/ 
and the end of last season, he started shrinking.  Probably got OFF the gh when the MIAMI clinic with A-rod and frends got busted.  Come to think of it, they got busted right before the 2013 season.  Wade missed 1/3 of the season injured and sucked in the playoffs.  Lebron was completely tired and weak by playoffs.  Bosh had no muscle, no balls.  I'm betting the Big 3 lost their connect before the 2013 season, and that's why they lost so badly to the spurs. 
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: calfzilla on September 26, 2014, 09:36:18 PM
i'm convinced Wade used GH.   we see how bodybiulders' hands grow.  We see Barry Bonds head and feet size increase.

And we see Wade's jaw growing.  In a huge way.  Asymmetrical manner as well.  Just as his body has become super muscular and stronger/faster - after knee injuries - as he passes age 30... just as he's better than he was a decade ago...

that jaw growth, sorry, I'm convinced.  And lebron blew up in muscle when he arrived in Miami too/ 
and the end of last season, he started shrinking.  Probably got OFF the gh when the MIAMI clinic with A-rod and frends got busted.  Come to think of it, they got busted right before the 2013 season.  Wade missed 1/3 of the season injured and sucked in the playoffs.  Lebron was completely tired and weak by playoffs.  Bosh had no muscle, no balls.  I'm betting the Big 3 lost their connect before the 2013 season, and that's why they lost so badly to the spurs. 

Any good anti aging clinics in Cleveland?
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: tommywishbone on September 26, 2014, 09:43:02 PM
No reason for James to use drugs. Name one reason for James to use PED's. None. Zip. Nada.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: calfzilla on September 26, 2014, 09:45:01 PM
No reason for James to use drugs. Name one reason for James to use PED's. None. Zip. Nada.

Stronger, faster, better recovery  ???
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: visualizeperfection on September 26, 2014, 10:27:38 PM
No reason for James to use drugs. Name one reason for James to use PED's. None. Zip. Nada.

He plays a sport professionally...
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: tommywishbone on September 26, 2014, 10:57:32 PM
 :). Guys, I was making a joke. He makes $200,000,000 to play basketball. That alone is a damn good reason to use PED's. Yes, I fully believe he simply got off (for some reason) and lost all that muscle.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: Dave D on September 26, 2014, 11:24:35 PM
The NBA has testing for this gentlemen.  Personally I'd love if our players show the dedication to a summer workout program and shed 35 pounds of muscle. He's an example of hard work paying off.


*I also think it's safe to say that NBA players are some of the most conditioned athletes in the world.  The run nonstop from practice to games (look how at much retired vets like Jordan, Shaq, Magic and Barkley blow up once they finish playing).Let's not forget how much attention was paid to Lebrons road work during the season: riding a bicycle to and from home games, jogging from hotels to visiting arenas, and whatever else he did that I'm forgetting.   For most of these athletes keeping weight on during the season is the challenge, yet for the last two years James has been lauded for his in season extracurricular work outs.  Despite ALL this explosive cardiovascular training he manages to cut more weight in THE OFF SEASON!!!!

His training protocol must be INSANE; his off season workout is more intense than the 9 month NBA season.......... that just doesn't sound right.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: 240 is Back on September 27, 2014, 10:27:16 AM
Any good anti aging clinics in Cleveland?

Im' pretty sure most people in cleveland try to age as quickly as possible, so they can die and leave cleveland.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 27, 2014, 10:36:32 AM
He wish he was 250 coming out of high school.  GH is the PEDS of choice for basketball players, not for size but recovery.

Lebron at age 17. That don't look like 250.

(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l142/thinlizzy21/51919CFA-6668-4368-952A-AB49E3650347_zpsqxdnteyt.png) (http://s95.photobucket.com/user/thinlizzy21/media/51919CFA-6668-4368-952A-AB49E3650347_zpsqxdnteyt.png.html)
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: 240 is Back on September 27, 2014, 11:16:23 AM
lebron did weigh in at 240 entering the NBA draft.
http://www.nba.com/draft2003/profiles/JamesLeBron.html

he's been listed at 250?   he's 265 probably.  Well, now, he looks to be 230 lol.  maybe 225.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: Hulkotron on September 27, 2014, 05:35:52 PM
lol @ the guy who thinks LeBron doesn't use PED :D

lol @ thinking the NBA would publicly announce he failed a test
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: Dave D on September 27, 2014, 06:00:20 PM
Perhaps it's just AIDS?
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: 2Thick on September 28, 2014, 02:00:53 PM
lebron did weigh in at 240 entering the NBA draft.
http://www.nba.com/draft2003/profiles/JamesLeBron.html

he's been listed at 250?   he's 265 probably.  Well, now, he looks to be 230 lol.  maybe 225.

Brutal 14 inch arms. Monster 11 inch cankles. Epic 43 inch chest tapering down to 41 inch waste.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 28, 2014, 04:07:30 PM
Brutal 14 inch arms. Monster 11 inch cankles. Epic 43 inch chest tapering down to 41 inch waste.

And he has a lot more power than you will ever have. I worked with a guy that was 6'5" and 290lbs now. He played Division I basketball. He said you wouldn't believe how strong Charles Barkley was when he played against him in college.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: XFACTOR on September 28, 2014, 04:10:36 PM
Wait you guys are serious? You really think Bron uses peds?

Have any of you played ball?
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: Ron Jeremy on September 28, 2014, 04:45:57 PM
At 265, he is physically capable to play all 5 positions. With the addition of K. Love, maybe he will stay on the perimeter and guard only perimeter players. His talent was evident in high school and I don't think he is using ped's. Still, no one is above suspicion in this day and age. If bb players are using ped's, just imagine what football players are using. I would suspect anyone over 30 (except kickers, qb's) is most definitely looking for that edge.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: visualizeperfection on September 28, 2014, 04:59:39 PM
And he has a lot more power than you will ever have. I worked with a guy that was 6'5" and 290lbs now. He played Division I basketball. He said you wouldn't believe how strong Charles Barkley was when he played against him in college.

Sure you did, stud.


I'm sure you also know of a 275lb shredded monster from prison that never touched gear.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: Hulkotron on September 28, 2014, 05:01:00 PM
Sure you did, stud.


I'm sure you also know of a 275lb shredded monster from prison that never touched gear.

Haha yes.

"When I was locked up..."
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: 2Thick on September 29, 2014, 09:49:08 AM
And he has a lot more power than you will ever have. I worked with a guy that was 6'5" and 290lbs now. He played Division I basketball. He said you wouldn't believe how strong Charles Barkley was when he played against him in college.

Calm down, Tiger. It ain't that serious. Have a sandwich and a glass of milk.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: Ronnie Rep on September 29, 2014, 10:24:08 AM
All of the offseason photos that appeared to show a slimmed down LeBron James were accurate, and the Cleveland Cavaliers superstar has a strict and lengthy diet to thank for it.

In an interview with CNN's Rachel Nichols that will air on Friday, James detailed his offseason weight loss, admitting: "I haven't been in this weight class." When asked to put a number on it, James said he's roughly 250 pounds, which he says is "a lot lighter than I've been playing at the last few years."

Media guides wouldn't necessarily back that up. The 2010-11 and 2013-14 Miami Heat media guides both listed James at 250 pounds, but there's nothing suggesting those are always completely accurate. The important thing is that "I feel good," in the words of James, and "that's not such a good thing for the competition."

So how'd he do it? From the interview:

The diet was strict, right?

Very strict. 67 days.

And what did you eat or not eat?

I'll tell you what I couldn't have. No carbs, no sugar, no dairy, no refined sugar. No nothing. Meat, fish, veggies, fruit.

What was the hardest thing to give up?

It was either pancakes or chocolate chip cookies and ice cream.

You can watch a four-minute clip of the interview below:

I believe 2 years ago Udonis Haslem said Lebron was 270 he saw him on the scale. I am curious to see if Lebron is quicker at a lighter weight. It may have an effect on his rebounding at a lighter weight, banging inside.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: Rudee on September 29, 2014, 11:20:07 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=551244.0;attach=580414;image)

Looks like he's been training calves with Wolf.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: 240 is Back on October 19, 2014, 01:40:58 PM
Brand new Beats 2 commercial.  Filmed in Akron.  Love it.


Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 19, 2014, 02:53:19 PM
I would like to see Lebron turn out to be a colossal failure in Cleveland......

Fuck Lebron James.  He  is a great player but I can't stand him.  Everything about him rubs me the wrong way.  I'm an NBA fan so I tried to get behind this dude but I just can't.  Total douche.  He contradicts himself more than Obama.  Ring chasing bitch.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: That_Dude on October 19, 2014, 03:08:12 PM
I don't mind LeBron but this weight loss is clearly due to him coming off of the juice.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: Quickerblade on October 19, 2014, 06:35:12 PM
I don't mind LeBron but this weight loss is clearly due to him coming off of the juice.

Definately.

I like to see how super he is now without HGH and Test.

Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: Lustral on October 19, 2014, 06:43:39 PM
Fuck Lebron James.  He  is a great player but I can't stand him.  Everything about him rubs me the wrong way.  I'm an NBA fan so I tried to get behind this dude but I just can't.  Total douche.  He contradicts himself more than Obama.  Ring chasing bitch.

Nba or heat fan? Don't get why a pro athlete wanting success bothers you. Try following a football team (soccer) and see what it feels like when every good player is sapped into three or four teams ( barcelona, real madrid, maybe man u bayern chelsea etc fill last 2 spots depending on when it is).

Our best player (suarez) left in summer and while it sucks and we loved him you can't begrudge him. Crazy pay, better chance of winning and also spanish speaking country. These guys get 15 years max why not make most of it.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 19, 2014, 07:45:47 PM
Nba or heat fan? Don't get why a pro athlete wanting success bothers you. Try following a football team (soccer) and see what it feels like when every good player is sapped into three or four teams ( barcelona, real madrid, maybe man u bayern chelsea etc fill last 2 spots depending on when it is).

Our best player (suarez) left in summer and while it sucks and we loved him you can't begrudge him. Crazy pay, better chance of winning and also spanish speaking country. These guys get 15 years max why not make most of it.

Hell no I'm not a Heat fan. 

I'm not mad at Lebron for wanting success, I just don't respect how he chooses to get it.  Bailing on his team(twice) for greener pastures.  Stacking the odds in his favor.  Conspiring with other players, circumventing the salary cap, holding teams hostage, being the defacto GM.   A player of his talent level should not need 2 other All-Star starters with him to win.

His rings are cheap.  Any rings he wins in Cleveland are going to be cheap.  They were not earned in the same manner that real NBA legends won theirs.  Seriously, fuck him.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: 240 is Back on February 11, 2015, 05:42:57 PM
Very true. He is off growth.

;)

He's been "reborn and revitalized these last 14 games" according to the ESPN announcer.

They're up 20, early in 2nd quarter against the Heat, on a 12-game winning streak.

Someone found GH in his stocking.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: calfzilla on February 11, 2015, 05:49:11 PM
;)

He's been "reborn and revitalized these last 14 games" according to the ESPN announcer.

They're up 20, early in 2nd quarter against the Heat, on a 12-game winning streak.

Someone found GH in his stocking.

I'm sure he just started eating fructose again  ::)
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: Pray_4_War on February 11, 2015, 06:44:41 PM
Sweet Potato diet.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: ritch on February 11, 2015, 07:35:22 PM
why the hell does he need to be that lean?
he looks better in the before pic.

Also, why restrict carbs in an athlete??? At his height and shit, would take a very lazy life style to get fat. Talk about worrying for nothing...
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: Earl1972 on February 11, 2015, 08:01:00 PM
Hell no I'm not a Heat fan. 

I'm not mad at Lebron for wanting success, I just don't respect how he chooses to get it.  Bailing on his team(twice) for greener pastures.  Stacking the odds in his favor.  Conspiring with other players, circumventing the salary cap, holding teams hostage, being the defacto GM.   A player of his talent level should not need 2 other All-Star starters with him to win.

His rings are cheap.  Any rings he wins in Cleveland are going to be cheap.  They were not earned in the same manner that real NBA legends won theirs.  Seriously, fuck him.

how did the other legends earn their rings?

you didn't realize jordan had two hall of famers like pippen and rodman?  or the best coach?

how about magic having kareem and worthy?

or bird having mchale and parrish?

it amazes me how lebron is supposed to be the only player to win all by himself, it's not his fault nobody wanted to go to cleveland back in 2010

E
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: Hulkotron on February 11, 2015, 08:04:57 PM
I don't think there are too many teams in the history of the NBA that have won a title with fewer than two hall-of-famers in their primes on the roster, or at least two HOFers and another all-star caliber guy.

Shaq and Kobe couldn't drag the Lakers kicking and screaming to a title in 2003, for example.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: Pray_4_War on February 11, 2015, 09:44:06 PM
how did the other legends earn their rings?

you didn't realize jordan had two hall of famers like pippen and rodman?  or the best coach?

how about magic having kareem and worthy?

or bird having mchale and parrish?

it amazes me how lebron is supposed to be the only player to win all by himself, it's not his fault nobody wanted to go to cleveland back in 2010

E

Good God! Are you guys that fucking stupid?

Jordan was the superstar.  The Bulls drafted Pippen who eventually matured into a great player.  They got Rodman (a role player who didn't score) to replace Horace Grant...who they drafted.

The Lakers had an aging Kareem.  They weren't a great team so they had a #1 pick and drafted Magic.  They later drafted Worthy who eventually developed into a great player.

The Celtics drafted Bird, traded for Parish (who up to that point hadn't been great), and drafted Mchale.  Bird was great from day one, the other two eventually developed into great players.

Do you see the pattern?  

Now.  Can you not tell the difference between teams making smart moves, drafting the right guys and developing players... and what Lebron did?  Twice.  Jumping to greener pastures, Twice.  Playing GM and conspiring with other established all-star players, each one the #1 option on their own team.  Creating top heavy teams, often playing for less than their full market value in order to circumvent the intended restrictions of the salary cap.  Putting themselves in a position where they have an overwhelming talent advantage over the entire league. Twice.  Are you that simple minded that you can't make a distinction between these two methods of forming a winning team?  Lebron James himself, out loud, in his own words identified this kind of behavior as ring chasing.  When he realized he wasn't going to win in Cleveland he did it anyway.  when he realized the window in Miami was closing, he did it again.

Cheap fucking rings, borderline cheating, diminished legacy.  Period.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: Pray_4_War on February 11, 2015, 10:01:56 PM

I don't think there are too many teams in the history of the NBA that have won a title with fewer than two hall-of-famers in their primes on the roster, or at least two HOFers and another all-star caliber guy.

Shaq and Kobe couldn't drag the Lakers kicking and screaming to a title in 2003, for example.

Shaq was a 24 year old superstar in 1996 when he signed as a free agent.  Kobe was a 17 year old fucking high school kid who the Lakers drafted and he eventually, developed into a superstar.  They actually did drag the Lakers kicking and screaming to a title, 3 times, back to back to back, with nothing else on the roster but role players.  They eventually lost in the finals in 2003 (their 4th NBA Finals in 5 years) after the Lakers signed two Hall of Famers on the ass end of their careers, to come in and play.  It was a simple case of the physical and mental fatigue that every great team in history deals with after going to the Finals year after year after year.  That as well as the fact that they lost Rick Fox, Horace Grant, and Karl Malone to injuries by the time the Finals Started.

Regardless, their title runs were in no way similar to what Lebron did in Miami.

Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: Hulkotron on February 11, 2015, 10:25:28 PM
Shaq was a 24 year old superstar in 1996 when he signed as a free agent.  Kobe was a 17 year old fucking high school kid who the Lakers drafted and he eventually, developed into a superstar.  They actually did drag the Lakers kicking and screaming to a title, 3 times, back to back to back, with nothing else on the roster but role players.  They eventually lost in the finals in 2003 (their 4th NBA Finals in 5 years) after the Lakers signed two Hall of Famers on the ass end of their careers, to come in and play.  It was a simple case of the physical and mental fatigue that every great team in history deals with after going to the Finals year after year after year.  That as well as the fact that they lost Rick Fox, Horace Grant, and Karl Malone to injuries by the time the Finals Started.

Regardless, their title runs were in no way similar to what Lebron did in Miami.



2004 was the year they lost with Malone/Payton in the Finals.  

In 2000 they had a fellow named Glen Rice scoring 16 points/game.
2001 and 2002 you can make a case that it was Shaq/Kobe and role-players (and '03 but they didn't win then), which is why I said "aren't too many" not "literally zero" so I'm not sure what you're trying to argue with me about.

Even in '01 and '02 they had other guys who were former all-stars (Horace Grant, Ron Harper, Mitch Richmond, JR Rider).  They may not have put up all-star numbers that late in their careers with Shaq and Kobe hoisting 50 shots a night but it's not like there wasn't talent on the team outside the top two guys.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: Quickerblade on February 11, 2015, 10:28:05 PM
Shaq was a 24 year old superstar in 1996 when he signed as a free agent.  Kobe was a 17 year old fucking high school kid who the Lakers drafted and he eventually, developed into a superstar.  They actually did drag the Lakers kicking and screaming to a title, 3 times, back to back to back, with nothing else on the roster but role players.  They eventually lost in the finals in 2003 (their 4th NBA Finals in 5 years) after the Lakers signed two Hall of Famers on the ass end of their careers, to come in and play.  It was a simple case of the physical and mental fatigue that every great team in history deals with after going to the Finals year after year after year.  That as well as the fact that they lost Rick Fox, Horace Grant, and Karl Malone to injuries by the time the Finals Started.

Regardless, their title runs were in no way similar to what Lebron did in Miami.



I remember that, the pistons did a number on them. Malone was officially done by the time he was a laker.
Gary payton was OK, he followed shaq to miami and finally won a championship thanks to Alonzo and Wade.
Shaq was pathetic and useless by the time he was in Miami. He was getting 4 fouls within 3 mins. Lazy fat fuck..

It was all Alonzo and Wade.  If you watch a full miami game you will see how shit shaq was.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: Pray_4_War on February 11, 2015, 11:01:47 PM
2004 was the year they lost with Malone/Payton in the Finals.  

In 2000 they had a fellow named Glen Rice scoring 16 points/game.
2001 and 2002 you can make a case that it was Shaq/Kobe and role-players (and '03 but they didn't win then), which is why I said "aren't too many" not "literally zero" so I'm not sure what you're trying to argue with me about.

Even in '01 and '02 they had other guys who were former all-stars (Horace Grant, Ron Harper, Mitch Richmond, JR Rider).  They may not have put up all-star numbers that late in their careers with Shaq and Kobe hoisting 50 shots a night but it's not like there wasn't talent on the team outside the top two guys.

Yes, I'm aware of that because I was there.  It was the 2003-04 season that they lost in the Finals.  They lost with a 40 year old (literally) Karl Malone who had gotten injured before the finals even started.  He played on one leg here and there until he finally had to shut it down.  Gary Payton was out of favor with Phil by the Finals because of his unwillingness to play a role and play withing the triangle.

Glen Rice was a role player on the 1999-2000 team.  16 points as a spot up shooter who played zero defense.  He made 5.3 field goals per game that year.  5 buckets.  The rest of the "former all-stars" were at the end of their careers or literally in their last year.  Old ass, veterans trying to play a role and pick up a ring.

Yes old ass former allstars on the ass end of their careers joined Shaq and Kobe.  Shaq and Kobe did not split town and join other 20 something year old current all-star players who were all #1 option players on their own teams.  They didn't do it once, let alone twice.

You are missing the entire point of what I'm saying.  God you are dense.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: Hulkotron on February 11, 2015, 11:09:29 PM
Yes, I'm aware of that because I was there.  It was the 2003-04 season that they lost in the Finals.  They lost with a 40 year old (literally) Karl Malone who had gotten injured before the finals even started.  He played on one leg here and there until he finally had to shut it down.  Gary Payton was out of favor with Phil by the Finals because of his unwillingness to play a role and play withing the triangle.

Glen Rice was a role player on the 1999-2000 team.  16 points as a spot up shooter who played zero defense.  He made 5.3 field goals per game that year.  5 buckets.  The rest of the "former all-stars" were at the end of their careers or literally in their last year.  Old ass, veterans trying to play a role and pick up a ring.

Yes old ass former allstars on the ass end of their careers joined Shaq and Kobe.  Shaq and Kobe did not split town and join other 20 something year old current all-star players who were all #1 option players on their own teams.  They didn't do it once, let alone twice.

You are missing the entire point of what I'm saying.  God you are dense.

I wasn't even talking to you queerbait, you're the one who jumped all over me for making a factual statement.  

lol @ "I was there" like that makes you some bigshot or authority  :D

FYI 16 points on five baskets is really impressive and valuable.  You don't seem to know much about the sport.

Eat a fat dick
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on February 11, 2015, 11:54:44 PM
Yes anyone who continues to berate Hulkotron can eat a dick. In fact you can eat Knoogers dick as well.

Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: visualizeperfection on February 12, 2015, 12:52:01 AM
Basketball is a horrid sport. I wish basketball players and their fans nothing but the worst.


That being said some of the lowly bottom tit nobodies need to take heed when addressing hulkotron directly, its completely unacceptable and all around unwise. I have prayed for all you individually and hope their are no serious consequences to your reckless behavior.



Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: Ronnie Rep on February 12, 2015, 05:27:07 AM
I remember that, the pistons did a number on them. Malone was officially done by the time he was a laker.
Gary payton was OK, he followed shaq to miami and finally won a championship thanks to Alonzo and Wade.
Shaq was pathetic and useless by the time he was in Miami. He was getting 4 fouls within 3 mins. Lazy fat fuck..

It was all Alonzo and Wade.  If you watch a full miami game you will see how shit shaq was.
Absolutely, Shaq was just trying to collect rings on Wade and Zo's back.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: King Shizzo on February 12, 2015, 05:37:19 AM
Pray 4 War making solid arguments. Never liked Lebron myself. Primadonna
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: Pray_4_War on February 12, 2015, 09:31:49 AM
I wasn't even talking to you queerbait, you're the one who jumped all over me for making a factual statement.  

lol @ "I was there" like that makes you some bigshot or authority  :D

FYI 16 points on five baskets is really impressive and valuable.  You don't seem to know much about the sport.

Eat a fat dick

I actually am a bigshot authority when it comes to Laker basketball.  True story.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: 240 is Back on February 12, 2015, 11:36:24 AM
Ryen rusillo just CALLED OUT LEBRON for Jan 2015 HGH use.

He is joking about "going down to miami, shooting up for 2 weeks, and now he's superman".

He's playing that "well, MAYBE that's what happened, maybe he's just rested, maybe he was just sore" kinda game.  But he's introducing that narrative.  You'd have to figure that's how these sports pundits could accuse him of the obvious, without putting themselves at risk. 

Will ANYONE be surprised when tiger comes back in 3-4 months... jacked again... and hitting the ball awesome once again?
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: Rudee on February 12, 2015, 12:29:11 PM
Sweet Potato and Squirrel Egg diet of peace.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: Quickerblade on February 12, 2015, 12:51:02 PM
Ryen rusillo just CALLED OUT LEBRON for Jan 2015 HGH use.

He is joking about "going down to miami, shooting up for 2 weeks, and now he's superman".

He's playing that "well, MAYBE that's what happened, maybe he's just rested, maybe he was just sore" kinda game.  But he's introducing that narrative.  You'd have to figure that's how these sports pundits could accuse him of the obvious, without putting themselves at risk. 

Will ANYONE be surprised when tiger comes back in 3-4 months... jacked again... and hitting the ball awesome once again?

I will never be surprised, I encourage HGH use, athletes deserve the right to recover quickly.
If HGH was a tablet nobody will care, any injectable scares mainstream fans cause they are fat fucks.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: Earl1972 on February 12, 2015, 01:16:56 PM
Good God! Are you guys that fucking stupid?

Jordan was the superstar.  The Bulls drafted Pippen who eventually matured into a great player.  They got Rodman (a role player who didn't score) to replace Horace Grant...who they drafted.

The Lakers had an aging Kareem.  They weren't a great team so they had a #1 pick and drafted Magic.  They later drafted Worthy who eventually developed into a great player.

The Celtics drafted Bird, traded for Parish (who up to that point hadn't been great), and drafted Mchale.  Bird was great from day one, the other two eventually developed into great players.

Do you see the pattern?  

Now.  Can you not tell the difference between teams making smart moves, drafting the right guys and developing players... and what Lebron did?  Twice.  Jumping to greener pastures, Twice.  Playing GM and conspiring with other established all-star players, each one the #1 option on their own team.  Creating top heavy teams, often playing for less than their full market value in order to circumvent the intended restrictions of the salary cap.  Putting themselves in a position where they have an overwhelming talent advantage over the entire league. Twice.  Are you that simple minded that you can't make a distinction between these two methods of forming a winning team?  Lebron James himself, out loud, in his own words identified this kind of behavior as ring chasing.  When he realized he wasn't going to win in Cleveland he did it anyway.  when he realized the window in Miami was closing, he did it again.

Cheap fucking rings, borderline cheating, diminished legacy.  Period.

if lebron took your stupid advice and stayed with the cavs he would have zero titles because he would've had zero help, the only reason they have kyrie is because he left and they went back to being the WORST team in the league

i see the pattern, the cavs franchise couldn't draft another hall of fame player so lebron was forced to try and win a title all by himself, which he did as well as he could leading them to the finals and the best record in the league, guys like kobe couldn't even get his team to the playoffs without shaq or pau

you're blaming lebron for the cavs being a perennial losing franchise, as if it's his job to draft players and evaluate talent

who on the cavs "eventually" develop into a good player that would've helped lebron win a title?

his rings are worth just as much as anybody's, keep hating lebron because that's the "cool" thing to do all because he was smart enough to get out of a bad situation

we are all a witness, people like you refuse to acknowledge it because you hate to see somebody surpass your childhood heroes

E

Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: Earl1972 on February 12, 2015, 01:18:41 PM
Shaq was a 24 year old superstar in 1996 when he signed as a free agent.  Kobe was a 17 year old fucking high school kid who the Lakers drafted and he eventually, developed into a superstar.  They actually did drag the Lakers kicking and screaming to a title, 3 times, back to back to back, with nothing else on the roster but role players.  They eventually lost in the finals in 2003 (their 4th NBA Finals in 5 years) after the Lakers signed two Hall of Famers on the ass end of their careers, to come in and play.  It was a simple case of the physical and mental fatigue that every great team in history deals with after going to the Finals year after year after year.  That as well as the fact that they lost Rick Fox, Horace Grant, and Karl Malone to injuries by the time the Finals Started.

Regardless, their title runs were in no way similar to what Lebron did in Miami.



they signed phil jackson and won titles, the lakers had lebron's coach and fired his ass because he was no phil

E
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: Earl1972 on February 12, 2015, 01:20:45 PM
Pray 4 War making solid arguments. Never liked Lebron myself. Primadonna

what's wrong?  he doesn't beat up his smaller white teammates like jordan?

or he isn't hated by his teammates like kobe?

E
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: Pray_4_War on February 12, 2015, 02:10:19 PM


his rings are worth just as much as anybody's.


E



Absolute nonsense.  Keep dreaming.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on February 12, 2015, 02:57:36 PM
ooh you might be on to something there.   has that look when he talks... super alert, and that look to his body too.   could be it.  

richard sherman approved.

Lebron has classic symptoms of ADHD. He can't sit still and he can't stop biting his fingernails(anxiety)...I'd bet the house that Adderall is one of the drugs he leans on...






Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on February 12, 2015, 03:02:14 PM
There is some clinic in Germany that has these recovery chambers.  They charge a shit load of money and all major athletes use them.  They swear it cuts recovery time in half for most surgeries.  maybe they have a south florida clinic now
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: Quickerblade on February 12, 2015, 07:25:17 PM
There is some clinic in Germany that has these recovery chambers.  They charge a shit load of money and all major athletes use them.  They swear it cuts recovery time in half for most surgeries.  maybe they have a south florida clinic now

Is it where kobe went and Arod followed.

Lebron is on potent GH and I applaud it, his eclipsing the NBA.

skip bayless said "his on the red meat diet" Skip knows the truth.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: 240 is Back on February 12, 2015, 07:33:03 PM
There is some clinic in Germany that has these recovery chambers.  They charge a shit load of money and all major athletes use them.  They swear it cuts recovery time in half for most surgeries.  maybe they have a south florida clinic now

they DID have a south FL clinic.  A-rod went there.  Tiger went there in 2008.  Most of the HEAT guys went there, supposedly.  They did the legal blood mixing thing there, and that's what everyone claims they got.  BUT they also busted the place forr illegal HGH sales, and Arod took all the hate for it.

It makes perfect sense.  A-roid gets caught, rats, the place gets busted.  Tiger suddenly sucks.  The HEAT lose all steam mid-season and get beaten senseless in the Finals.   All the Heat players "go paleo" and lose 25 pounds of muscle each in the same summer lol. 

makes perfect sense.  Wouldn't shock me to see what other MLB, NFL, MLS guys all suddenly took a shit when the place closed.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: Earl1972 on February 12, 2015, 08:02:05 PM
Absolute nonsense.  Keep dreaming.

i don't have to dream, it's reality no matter how much it bothers for you to know he's a champion

why not enjoy the greatness that we are all witnessing?  we might never see it again when he's gone

E
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: Pray_4_War on February 12, 2015, 11:32:01 PM
i don't have to dream, it's reality no matter how much it bothers for you to know he's a champion

why not enjoy the greatness that we are all witnessing?  we might never see it again when he's gone

E

You might not belive me but I actually like Lebron as a player.  I do enjoy him, but I just can't sit here and pretend that what he did wasn't taking a shortcut.

...and now he's done it again.  Lebron James: Player, Coach, GM, Growth Hormone enthusiast.
Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: Kwon_2 on February 13, 2015, 01:13:41 AM
Nice interviewer

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Title: Re: LeBron James: 67 days of very strict dieting
Post by: Quickerblade on February 13, 2015, 01:24:11 AM
i don't have to dream, it's reality no matter how much it bothers for you to know he's a champion

why not enjoy the greatness that we are all witnessing?  we might never see it again when he's gone

E

My man Pray4War does not hate lebron, he just is not a fan of him joining his mates in Miami.

Of course we all will miss Lebron, the guy is God sent with a lifetime GH prescription.

After Lebron who do we have?? Blake griffin? just a poor version of Shawn Kemp, Chris Paul is fucken boring, Kevin Durant is not a superstar, personality of a fucken goldfish, dont believe the hype.

I enjoy Lebron, I dont buy his shoes etc, I just appreciate the guy.