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Title: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Shockwave on October 06, 2014, 10:44:55 AM
And theyre treating him in isolation.


And that's all they said. One blurb in between Obamas hispanic voter issues and some dudes boat getting bitten by a shark.


One blurb, one line. No info. Anyone else know anything about it?
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: tu_holmes on October 06, 2014, 10:49:21 AM
Nothing on Foxnews.com

Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Shockwave on October 06, 2014, 11:07:53 AM
Apparently dudes in Nebraska.

They said hes the FIFTH american to be infected.


Theyre keeping this quiet, i only knew about 3 of them, the reporter, the liberian (whos apparently dying anyway, selfish fuck) and the doc.
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: headhuntersix on October 06, 2014, 11:11:11 AM
There was a doc and the nurse....reporter...dude from Liberia and this guy.  I guess its good that we can point out people at this point.
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on October 06, 2014, 11:13:33 AM
Open border ideology is great!! FORWARD!!!
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: 240 is Back on October 06, 2014, 11:26:00 AM
Open border ideology is great!! FORWARD!!!

I'm 100% fine with blaming the border and shitty laws on keeping the infected out - just as long as we are sure to lump in RINOs with piece of shit liberals.  I detest blaming obama for border policy when you have so many repubs on board too.
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 06, 2014, 11:30:48 AM
Obamabola is desperate to suppress any bad news on this before the mid terms
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: 240 is Back on October 06, 2014, 12:09:54 PM
Obamabola is desperate to suppress any bad news on this before the mid terms

but why is fox news willing to hide the story?  one quic mention then it's back to spring break high jinx and cracking on latte handshakes?

this could be THE biggest story in the last 100 years... why is fox supressing 5 cases of it, if that's what's happening?
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Necrosis on October 06, 2014, 01:05:24 PM
turns out it was just a case of the hot snakes, dude is fine.
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 06, 2014, 01:34:12 PM
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_SPAIN_EBOLA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-10-06-14-41-22

Now it is in spain. 
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Option D on October 06, 2014, 01:39:57 PM
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_SPAIN_EBOLA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-10-06-14-41-22

Now it is in spain. 

fucking obama
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 06, 2014, 01:42:02 PM
fucking obama


I know right?   F him! 
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 06, 2014, 02:01:46 PM
http://www.fireandreamitchell.com/2014/10/02/dumb-ass-obama-now-calling-ebola-ebolee-eboli-video



 ;D
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: tu_holmes on October 06, 2014, 02:02:42 PM
Is eboli a plural form?
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 06, 2014, 02:03:49 PM
Is eboli a plural form?

More like W by the hour . . . . .  :D
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: tu_holmes on October 06, 2014, 02:04:15 PM
More like W by the hour . . . . .  :D

Touché.
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Option D on October 06, 2014, 02:06:44 PM
More like W by the hour . . . . .  :D

you said that bush was awesome for 80% of his tenure.....so you love obama right
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 06, 2014, 02:09:52 PM
you said that bush was awesome for 80% of his tenure.....so you love obama right


No - im racist so even if Obama does 100% of things that are awesome, be it walk on water, solve cancer, stop the rising oceans, end poverty, etc - ill still hate him and give no credit since he is from Kenya and 1/2 black.  See how that works?    ;)  :D  ;D  >:(
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: tu_holmes on October 06, 2014, 02:09:56 PM
you said that bush was awesome for 80% of his tenure.....so you love obama right

George Obama-Bush

Does have a ring to it, huh?
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: dario73 on October 06, 2014, 03:11:44 PM
http://www.fireandreamitchell.com/2014/10/02/dumb-ass-obama-now-calling-ebola-ebolee-eboli-video



 ;D

HHEHEHEHEEH!!!

This is one of the comments made on that website:

Keep our Navy Corpsemen, in all 57 states, safe from Eboleeo that they may enjoy their dee cinco day quatro
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Shockwave on October 06, 2014, 03:42:35 PM
CDC director has now said "on theory it vould ne transmitted by sneezing, coughing, etc", basically admitting now that it could be transmitted via airborne driplets.

Which i think is a no brainer considering how mamy people have been infected when they shouldn't have been.
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: 240 is Back on October 06, 2014, 04:12:33 PM
HHEHEHEHEEH!!!

Keep our Navy Corpsemen, in all 57 states, safe from Eboleeo that they may enjoy their dee cinco day quatro

I'll salute my latte to that comment!
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: 240 is Back on October 06, 2014, 04:14:23 PM
CDC director has now said "on theory it vould ne transmitted by sneezing, coughing, etc", basically admitting now that it could be transmitted via airborne driplets.

Which i think is a no brainer considering how mamy people have been infected when they shouldn't have been.

???

it's not airborne.  It travels on body fluids when expelled, but it's not airborne.

Tens of thousands in Africa have it (or, 6000 infected, 3100 dead as they're saying today LOL)... because they hold their dying loved ones for a week.  Very natural thing to do, particularly when nobody there tells you not to.  There are probably tens of thousands of dead people in their homes that nobody is reporting.  dying in fields, etc. 

But yes, it's not airborne.   We're talking about 1/2 the planet dying if this thing goes airborne.
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: MikMaq on October 07, 2014, 03:59:00 AM
but why is fox news willing to hide the story?  one quic mention then it's back to spring break high jinx and cracking on latte handshakes?

this could be THE biggest story in the last 100 years... why is fox supressing 5 cases of it, if that's what's happening?
It's called being held liable for any hysteria caused by panic.

Its a medical issue, so you can only claim so much before you get sued into oblivion.
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: muscleman-2013 on October 07, 2014, 05:03:12 AM
It's called being held liable for any hysteria caused by panic.

Its a medical issue, so you can only claim so much before you get sued into oblivion.

Really?  I doubt it.

Please sight an example...
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: MikMaq on October 07, 2014, 05:14:55 AM
Really?  I doubt it.

Please sight an example...
How could there be one, this is the first time something like this has happened.
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: MikMaq on October 07, 2014, 05:49:19 AM
CDC director has now said "on theory it vould ne transmitted by sneezing, coughing, etc", basically admitting now that it could be transmitted via airborne driplets.

Which i think is a no brainer considering how mamy people have been infected when they shouldn't have been.
http://io9.com/how-ebola-can-still-be-very-infectious-without-being-v-1642322295

This kinda explains it.

Really is bullshit that they are saying its hard to transmit.

Technically spit doesn't typically have the infection rate to be considered airborne

However because ebola is so infection, spit does in fact infect people.


Theorectical a pound of ebola shits could effect the entire planet.



This really reaffirms my point that is the ideal weapon for a group like ISIS.


Just think you survive ebola, your families wiped out, you see global agencies do nothing, how would you feel, if you could bring down a city with just a bloody tampon a bit of blood under your finger nail.

If you are intelligent enough to appreciate bad people do exist, and they do exist in Africa, it's quite logical to assume weaponized ebola is just around the corner.
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: muscleman-2013 on October 07, 2014, 06:30:18 AM
How could there be one, this is the first time something like this has happened.

Then you are just speculating.  And I could site a dozen reasons why your speculation is badly flawed.
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: muscleman-2013 on October 07, 2014, 06:31:38 AM
Yes I've said in another thread that there are plenty of doctors who say it can be spread through aerosol.
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Shockwave on October 07, 2014, 07:49:24 AM
http://io9.com/how-ebola-can-still-be-very-infectious-without-being-v-1642322295

This kinda explains it.

Really is bullshit that they are saying its hard to transmit.

Technically spit doesn't typically have the infection rate to be considered airborne

However because ebola is so infection, spit does in fact infect people.


Theorectical a pound of ebola shits could effect the entire planet.



This really reaffirms my point that is the ideal weapon for a group like ISIS.


Just think you survive ebola, your families wiped out, you see global agencies do nothing, how would you feel, if you could bring down a city with just a bloody tampon a bit of blood under your finger nail.

If you are intelligent enough to appreciate bad people do exist, and they do exist in Africa, it's quite logical to assume weaponized ebola is just around the corner.
Yeah, i thought of that, considerinf that shit smell is particulates inside your nose, so theoritically ebola infected shit could transmit the virus.

I waz wondeong for w long time, as it seems they said it transmits similar.to AIDs (blood, bodily fluids, etc)...., yet people arent catching AIDs just from interacting with AIDs patients.

I know its a a bit different but something stinks here. This shit is waaayyyyy more infectious than they want to admit.
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Necrosis on October 07, 2014, 07:53:55 AM
Yeah, i thought of that, considerinf that shit smell is particulates inside your nose, so theoritically ebola infected shit could transmit the virus.

I waz wondeong for w long time, as it seems they said it transmits similar.to AIDs (blood, bodily fluids, etc)...., yet people arent catching AIDs just from interacting with AIDs patients.

I know its a a bit different but something stinks here. This shit is waaayyyyy more infectious than they want to admit.

People with HIV aren't acutely sick, ie not coughing, puking, shitting themselves. You are confused, it's not airborne, in any way, shape of form.
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: headhuntersix on October 07, 2014, 08:03:17 AM
Yet...but the with the Spain case the nurse apparently took all precautions with the patient and still got it. It doesn't help that for the last 15 years we've been over exposed to zombie flicks.  This is not good regardless. If people want to overreact and wear masks...let em.
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Shockwave on October 07, 2014, 08:26:17 AM
People with HIV aren't acutely sick, ie not coughing, puking, shitting themselves. You are confused, it's not airborne, in any way, shape of form.
Really? Because the CDC director has now admitted it could be contracted through airborne particulates and its spreading in ways everyone has said it wouldnt. I didnt just pull that shit out of the air.

I know you implicitly trust what youre told but youve never worked for the government.

Theyll keep that shit under wraos as long as lossible, and they need to, because otherwise idiots will start rioting and panicking.

You keep saying "your wrong, its not like that. It doesnt spread like that", except that medical professionals followig their protocols are getting infected when they shouldn't. A few, ok, someone screwed up. But how manu docs and workers have gotten infected when they shouldnt?

Something is operating in a way they didnt think it would. Its transmitting in a way that they didnt predict or foresee, Nd thats probably why the CDC reluctantly admitted it could be airborne from coughs and sneezes (not traditional airborne, but particulate airborne)
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: headhuntersix on October 07, 2014, 08:33:45 AM
That's why the spain case is troubling.....until or or unless they discover she did not
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: headhuntersix on October 07, 2014, 08:37:21 AM
The spread of Ebola across Europe is "quite unavoidable", a health chief has warned as four people were hospitalised after a Spanish nurse became the first person known to have contracted the virus outside Africa.
 
The World Health Organisation's European director Zsuzsanna Jakab has said while more cases will spread in Europe, the continent should be well prepared to control the disease.....

Atleast the Euro's are being up front about this...unlike the douchbag in the WH. Obama has far to much faith in the gov system to prevent this.
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Necrosis on October 07, 2014, 08:47:51 AM
Really? Because the CDC director has now admitted it could be contracted through airborne particulates and its spreading in ways everyone has said it wouldnt. I didnt just pull that shit out of the air.

I know you implicitly trust what youre told but youve never worked for the government.

Theyll keep that shit under wraos as long as lossible, and they need to, because otherwise idiots will start rioting and panicking.

You keep saying "your wrong, its not like that. It doesnt spread like that", except that medical professionals followig their protocols are getting infected when they shouldn't. A few, ok, someone screwed up. But how manu docs and workers have gotten infected when they shouldnt?

Something is operating in a way they didnt think it would. Its transmitting in a way that they didnt predict or foresee, Nd thats probably why the CDC reluctantly admitted it could be airborne from coughs and sneezes (not traditional airborne, but particulate airborne)

Good point about the governmet, what I am saying is that it's not airborne by definition. In fact recent studies looked at this as you can imagine

Sci Rep. 2014 Jul 25;4:5824. doi: 10.1038/srep05824.
Evaluation of transmission risks associated with in vivo replication of several high containment pathogens in a biosafety level 4 laboratory.
Alimonti J1, Leung A1, Jones S2, Gren J3, Qiu X2, Fernando L2, Balcewich B4, Wong G5, Ströher U1, Grolla A2, Strong J6, Kobinger G7.
Author information
Abstract
Containment level 4 (CL4) laboratories studying biosafety level 4 viruses are under strict regulations to conduct nonhuman primate (NHP) studies in compliance of both animal welfare and biosafety requirements. NHPs housed in open-barred cages raise concerns about cross-contamination between animals, and accidental exposure of personnel to infectious materials. To address these concerns, two NHP experiments were performed. One examined the simultaneous infection of 6 groups of NHPs with 6 different viruses (Machupo, Junin, Rift Valley Fever, Crimean-Congo Hemorrhagic Fever, Nipah and Hendra viruses). Washing personnel between handling each NHP group, floor to ceiling biobubble with HEPA filter, and plexiglass between cages were employed for partial primary containment. The second experiment employed no primary containment around open barred cages with Ebola virus infected NHPs 0.3 meters from naïve NHPs. Viral antigen-specific ELISAs, qRT-PCR and TCID50 infectious assays were utilized to determine antibody levels and viral loads. No transmission of virus to neighbouring NHPs was observed suggesting limited containment protocols are sufficient for multi-viral CL4 experiments within one room. The results support the concept that Ebola virus infection is self-contained in NHPs infected intramuscularly, at least in the present experimental conditions, and is not transmitted to naïve NHPs via an airborne route.

it can't live in the air, or without significant droplets to accumulate on, so you are correct particulate airborne is possible, but that's not airborne. It could mutate and already has, I would imagine that we would have seen this type of transmission in monkeys as far more are infected thus more chance for mutation, it has not. It has become more virulent and less lethal for some reason. I wouldn't let anyone with a bloody nose sneeze on me.
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Necrosis on October 07, 2014, 08:52:18 AM
The spread of Ebola across Europe is "quite unavoidable", a health chief has warned as four people were hospitalised after a Spanish nurse became the first person known to have contracted the virus outside Africa.
 
The World Health Organisation's European director Zsuzsanna Jakab has said while more cases will spread in Europe, the continent should be well prepared to control the disease.....

Atleast the Euro's are being up front about this...unlike the douchbag in the WH. Obama has far to much faith in the gov system to prevent this.


If it was air then you would see people not in direct contact getting infected, the fact that the mistakes or mystery infections is in workers, makes sense and further refutes the airborne idea. They made a mistake or got lazy and got infected, perhaps there are formites they never accounted for.

Without a large vector population (monkeys and bats) I don't think it will be as bad as Africa, those people are living in near perfect conditions for infection including eating bush meat.
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: MikMaq on October 07, 2014, 11:17:55 AM
Yeah, i thought of that, considerinf that shit smell is particulates inside your nose, so theoritically ebola infected shit could transmit the virus.

I waz wondeong for w long time, as it seems they said it transmits similar.to AIDs (blood, bodily fluids, etc)...., yet people arent catching AIDs just from interacting with AIDs patients.

I know its a a bit different but something stinks here. This shit is waaayyyyy more infectious than they want to admit.
It is just like aids, mucus membranes in body come in contact with the virus.

What they are not telling you, is that you can drink a liter of spit from someone with aids and not catch the virus.

Because it has a low infection rate .

However ebola is extremely infectious.

A drop of spit will give you the virus.

Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: 240 is Back on October 07, 2014, 01:31:32 PM
it'd be a worldwide crisis no matter who is in congress...

and any repub in congress that isn't introducing legislation to lock down the border/planes can STFU about criticizing obama for not doing enough to stop it.  More of the "you go ahead and bomb syria, we'll support/condemn after we see the results".

RICK PERRY IS RIGHT...> WASHINGTON needs to do something about it - that includes congressional act. LET OBAMA say NO to anything congress issues on the matter... every death is on HIS hands then.  But congress intro'ing bills on all this trivial shit, but complaining obama isn't doing enough to stop it?  STFU already. 
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Shockwave on October 07, 2014, 01:40:41 PM
it'd be a worldwide crisis no matter who is in congress...

and any repub in congress that isn't introducing legislation to lock down the border/planes can STFU about criticizing obama for not doing enough to stop it.  More of the "you go ahead and bomb syria, we'll support/condemn after we see the results".

RICK PERRY IS RIGHT...> WASHINGTON needs to do something about it - that includes congressional act. LET OBAMA say NO to anything congress issues on the matter... every death is on HIS hands then.  But congress intro'ing bills on all this trivial shit, but complaining obama isn't doing enough to stop it?  STFU already. 

wat

Srsly, you try and introduce the same hypocrisy angle into every thread, even one that has nothing to do with that.

No ones biting bro.
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: 240 is Back on October 07, 2014, 02:18:11 PM
wat

Srsly, you try and introduce the same hypocrisy angle into every thread, even one that has nothing to do with that.

No ones biting bro.

I'm serious here.  Congress is SUING obama for using executive action too much.  He's NOT doing one on Ebola.  So why not a congressional act closing the border/air/boat/foot travel to ALL people from Africa and other affected areas?

Perry was right.  Perry didn't say "obama".  He cited Washington, and he's correct.  WHy this isn't the #1 item every congressmen is working on today, is beyond me.  Redskins name change more important?
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on October 07, 2014, 02:56:44 PM
wat

Srsly, you try and introduce the same hypocrisy angle into every thread, even one that has nothing to do with that.

No ones biting bro.

Agreed its getting old man...
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: MikMaq on October 07, 2014, 02:57:38 PM
I'm serious here.  Congress is SUING obama for using executive action too much.  He's NOT doing one on Ebola.  So why not a congressional act closing the border/air/boat/foot travel to ALL people from Africa and other affected areas?

Perry was right.  Perry didn't say "obama".  He cited Washington, and he's correct.  WHy this isn't the #1 item every congressmen is working on today, is beyond me.  Redskins name change more important?
Shuck the fuck up, I don't give a fuck about your monkey in office.


This is somethign bigger you dumb  fuck, all your political power in washington got small shit on Ebola.

If he strenghtens border control the markets goto shit, if he has an open border the virus spreads.

Do you honestly think your little intellect has some reverence on the situation.
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Option D on October 07, 2014, 02:59:06 PM
Really? Because the CDC director has now admitted it could be contracted through airborne particulates and its spreading in ways everyone has said it wouldnt. I didnt just pull that shit out of the air.



woah...so youre saying the CDC director said it could spread similar to the movie outbreak?

i havent seen it but ill take a deeper look
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 07, 2014, 03:00:51 PM
woah...so youre saying the CDC director said it could spread similar to the movie outbreak?

i havent seen it but ill take a deeper look


Mobacca passes that shit every time she takes a No. 2   ;)
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Option D on October 07, 2014, 03:03:59 PM
Mobacca passes that shit every time she takes a No. 2   ;)

cool story bro
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Option D on October 07, 2014, 03:05:45 PM
Really? Because the CDC director has now admitted it could be contracted through airborne particulates and its spreading in ways everyone has said it wouldnt. I didnt just pull that shit out of the air.

I know you implicitly trust what youre told but youve never worked for the government.

Theyll keep that shit under wraos as long as lossible, and they need to, because otherwise idiots will start rioting and panicking.

You keep saying "your wrong, its not like that. It doesnt spread like that", except that medical professionals followig their protocols are getting infected when they shouldn't. A few, ok, someone screwed up. But how manu docs and workers have gotten infected when they shouldnt?

Something is operating in a way they didnt think it would. Its transmitting in a way that they didnt predict or foresee, Nd thats probably why the CDC reluctantly admitted it could be airborne from coughs and sneezes (not traditional airborne, but particulate airborne)

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/220046-cdc-airborne-ebola-possible-but-unlikely

The Ebola virus becoming airborne is a possible but unlikely outcome in the current epidemic, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Director Tom Frieden said Tuesday.

The outbreak involves Ebola Zaire, a strain that is passed through bodily fluids, not the air. But some experts have expressed fear about viral mutations due to the unprecedented — and rising — number of Ebola cases.

Frieden sought to allay those fears during a call with reporters.

"The rate of change [with Ebola] is slower than most viruses, and most viruses don't change how they spread," he said. Frieden is unofficially spearheading the U.S. response to Ebola.

"That is not to say it's impossible that it could change [to become airborne]," he continued. "That would be the worst-case scenario. We would know that by looking at ... what is happening in Africa. That is why we have scientists from the CDC on the ground tracking that."

A change in the way Ebola spreads would make the virus significantly more dangerous. The disease kills roughly half the people it infects, and lacking a vaccine or cure, its traceable chain of transmission through bodily fluids is one reason officials believe they can contain it.

Still, there is almost no precedent for a human virus mutating to become transmissible in a different way, a key piece of evidence in weighing whether that kind of shift is likely for Ebola.

"We have so many problems with Ebola, let’s not make another one that, of course, is theoretically possible but is pretty way down on the list of likely issues," infectious diseases expert William Schaffner of Vanderbilt University told Scientific American.

Frieden touted new progress against Ebola in West Africa and Dallas, where a Liberian man remains in critical condition, but warned that "globally, this is going to be a long, hard fight."

The Dallas patient interacted with 10 definite and 38 possible interlocturos who are now being monitored, he said. None have shown symptoms.

Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: MikMaq on October 07, 2014, 03:16:17 PM
I honestly think understanding the risk is generational.


Just as the 2008 crisis made most sense to people that grew up in the 1930s, having family members effected by past pandemics helps.

My grandmother spent 3 years in hospital with Tuberculosis. It shaped the lives of my entire family.

If you can appreciate how normal pandemics were pre-Penicillin.

It was quite normal for 10 percent of a generation to be wiped out at a planetary level.
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Shockwave on October 07, 2014, 04:41:52 PM
woah...so youre saying the CDC director said it could spread similar to the movie outbreak?

i havent seen it but ill take a deeper look

It was in an article on zero hedge.

He said it could theoretically be transfered via coughs/sneezes putting mucus into the air, hence close vontact transmission, not just 'hanging' in the air.
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: 240 is Back on October 07, 2014, 05:04:06 PM
sounds like the texas dude has been in critical condition for a few days.  any news on him?  probably doesn't look good.  "experimental treatment"?
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Shockwave on October 07, 2014, 05:42:30 PM
sounds like the texas dude has been in critical condition for a few days.  any news on him?  probably doesn't look good.  "experimental treatment"?
Nah. Hes done last i heard.

I feel no sympathy for him, endangering his family and children, and exposing an entire continent to a possible outbreak because hes fucking stupid and selfish.
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: 240 is Back on October 07, 2014, 06:29:08 PM
Nah. Hes done last i heard.

I feel no sympathy for him, endangering his family and children, and exposing an entire continent to a possible outbreak because hes fucking stupid and selfish.

yes, he's a prick.  he shuold have landed and gone right to hospital.   Just don't land in TX... they didn't admit him 3x when he tried. 

I would have lived in a shelter or just gone to media and explained or called CDC right away.   But the "leaving liberia and traveling to USA" was his ONLY hope for survival.  They refused his sister and brothers in law... both died as a result.  He would be dead already in Liberia.  Faced with death, many of us would have come to USA also.  But his actions once here, inexcusable, I agree.
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Shockwave on October 07, 2014, 06:54:42 PM
yes, he's a prick.  he shuold have landed and gone right to hospital.   Just don't land in TX... they didn't admit him 3x when he tried. 

I would have lived in a shelter or just gone to media and explained or called CDC right away.   But the "leaving liberia and traveling to USA" was his ONLY hope for survival.  They refused his sister and brothers in law... both died as a result.  He would be dead already in Liberia.  Faced with death, many of us would have come to USA also.  But his actions once here, inexcusable, I agree.
Bullshit man, he was in quarantine, contacted people with ebola, lied on the questionairre to board the plane.

He should have never gotten on the plane. Hea not even a fucking citizen.

Dude lied and endangered countless others. Fuck him.
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: MikMaq on October 08, 2014, 06:47:23 AM
Nah. Hes done last i heard.

I feel no sympathy for him, endangering his family and children, and exposing an entire continent to a possible outbreak because hes fucking stupid and selfish.
I bet huge sums of money, that CIA-Homeland security will ensure he dies.

Just think what will happen if people start getting the idea that coming to america will solve your problem.
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Archer77 on October 08, 2014, 06:55:42 AM
Nah. Hes done last i heard.

I feel no sympathy for him, endangering his family and children, and exposing an entire continent to a possible outbreak because hes fucking stupid and selfish.

I have mixed emotions about this guy.  In general terms, I understand he must be feeling a tremendous amount of fear.  The fear of death is probably the most intense emotion anyone can feel.  My empathy for his plight really has nothing to do with him at all really but with the emotions he must be feeling.  On the flip side, the idiot was selfish and willingly put others in danger to save his own ass.  What would I have done in his position?  I would have died in Liberia.
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Post by: 240 is Back on October 08, 2014, 07:08:41 AM
Bullshit man, he was in quarantine, contacted people with ebola, lied on the questionairre to board the plane.

He should have never gotten on the plane. Hea not even a fucking citizen.

Dude lied and endangered countless others. Fuck him.

I said it was a dick move. 

I'm also saying that when facing an absolute sure death, many people would do the same thing.

He was a complete dick to those around him, way more than he needed to be.  But getting on a plane from liberia to seek medical attention elsewhere, I bet many would do that.  Suck, and selfish as shit, but people do that when they're facing death.
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Archer77 on October 08, 2014, 07:13:03 AM
I said it was a dick move. 

I'm also saying that when facing an absolute sure death, many people would do the same thing.

He was a complete dick to those around him, way more than he needed to be.  But getting on a plane from liberia to seek medical attention elsewhere, I bet many would do that.  Suck, and selfish as shit, but people do that when they're facing death.

Is a man who would choose to risk many lives for his own worth helping?  Is he not committing attempted murder?
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Option D on October 08, 2014, 07:14:19 AM
Like a drunk driver?
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Post by: 240 is Back on October 08, 2014, 07:30:44 AM
What would I have done in his position?  I would have died in Liberia.

I can't criticize what others do when faced with death - people take their own lives, people do amazing things and amazingly selfish things. Tough to judge that until we've been there.

that being said... the dude knew in the USA, he'd get the best medical care in the world.  He knew his kids were in USA.  He knew he'd be dead inside a week in liberia, guarateed... covered in body fluids from 2 that died, hospitals refusing patients, it was over for him.

IF nobody came in contact with his body fluids, then nobody would be infected.  And we haven't heard of anyone catching it from him yet.  Incredibly selfish and stupid, yes.  But for HIM, for his life, for his family, it was the right move.  Sure a fck wasn't cool for the person sitting next to him in coach for a 9 hour flight lol, not a bit cool there.

I think they should heal him then give him 5 years in prison for putting others at risk.  He gets to live, reunited with his family but yes, charge him for risking health of others, lying on forms, etc.
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Archer77 on October 08, 2014, 07:33:40 AM
Like a drunk driver?

If I know I possess a disease that is highly likely to harm other people and I choose to spread it anyway I've committed a crime. It is illegal for a person with AIDS to knowingly engage in sex with another person without informing them of their condition.
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Archer77 on October 08, 2014, 07:34:51 AM
I can't criticize what others do when faced with death - people take their own lives, people do amazing things and amazingly selfish things. Tough to judge that until we've been there.

that being said... the dude knew in the USA, he'd get the best medical care in the world.  He knew his kids were in USA.  He knew he'd be dead inside a week in liberia, guarateed... covered in body fluids from 2 that died, hospitals refusing patients, it was over for him.

IF nobody came in contact with his body fluids, then nobody would be infected.  And we haven't heard of anyone catching it from him yet.  Incredibly selfish and stupid, yes.  But for HIM, for his life, for his family, it was the right move.  Sure a fck wasn't cool for the person sitting next to him in coach for a 9 hour flight lol, not a bit cool there.

I think they should heal him then give him 5 years in prison for putting others at risk.  He gets to live, reunited with his family but yes, charge him for risking health of others, lying on forms, etc.

You can criticize but you can also empathize.  He put the lives of others and their families at risk.  The man is a criminal.
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Shockwave on October 08, 2014, 07:43:52 AM
I can't criticize what others do when faced with death - people take their own lives, people do amazing things and amazingly selfish things. Tough to judge that until we've been there.

that being said... the dude knew in the USA, he'd get the best medical care in the world.  He knew his kids were in USA.  He knew he'd be dead inside a week in liberia, guarateed... covered in body fluids from 2 that died, hospitals refusing patients, it was over for him.

IF nobody came in contact with his body fluids, then nobody would be infected.  And we haven't heard of anyone catching it from him yet.  Incredibly selfish and stupid, yes.  But for HIM, for his life, for his family, it was the right move.  Sure a fck wasn't cool for the person sitting next to him in coach for a 9 hour flight lol, not a bit cool there.

I think they should heal him then give him 5 years in prison for putting others at risk.  He gets to live, reunited with
his family but yes, charge him for risking health of others, lying on forms, etc.
Dick move? The dude didnt have the flu or some shit, he had ebola, the deadliest disease known to man. He knowingly lied to break quarantine and flew to the US and possibly could have murdered his while fucking family because of his own idiocy and selfishness.

The right move for his family? Are you fucking loco? Bringing ebola int9 contact with his family so he can desperatley cling to life is thenright move for his family? The right move was to STAY THE FUCK AWAY and keep it away from them, not bring it to their FUCKING HOME.

If i knew i was infected with fucking ebola i wouldnt put my FAMILY at risk nor countless thousands of others, id suck it up, cry like a bitch, and die like a man before id risk the lives of my wife and son.

I dont give a shit if youre dying or not, anone who would do that is a piece of fucking shit.

'Dick move', GMAFB. He was dead already and all he did was possibly murder his entire family and bring Ebola outside of a quarantine zone.

He should have been shot on site.
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: 240 is Back on October 08, 2014, 07:53:31 AM
If i knew i was infected with fucking ebola i wouldnt put my FAMILY at risk nor countless thousands of others, id suck it up, cry like a bitch, and die like a man before id risk the lives of my wife and son.

I dont give a shit if youre dying or not, anone who would do that is a piece of fucking shit.

He's a piece of shit, agreed.  I said he should get prison time.

Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: headhuntersix on October 08, 2014, 10:55:08 AM
Well he's dead so...fuck him I guess. I think this thing is being underreported in Africa and only going to get worse.  Time to MOAB these people and move on.
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Option D on October 08, 2014, 11:16:53 AM
1 down... 316 million to go
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Archer77 on October 08, 2014, 11:19:56 AM
1 down... 316 million to go

What do you mean?
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Option D on October 08, 2014, 11:34:36 AM
What do you mean?

Satire for the fear mongering idiots that forcast an "outbeak" type of situation for the US. Based soely on their dislike of President Obama.
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Option D on October 08, 2014, 11:35:49 AM
What do you mean?
~316 million people is the population of the US
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Dos Equis on October 08, 2014, 11:52:47 AM
Satire for the fear mongering idiots that forcast an "outbeak" type of situation for the US. Based soely on their dislike of President Obama.

Who is doing that?
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 08, 2014, 12:01:57 PM
Satire for the fear mongering idiots that forcast an "outbeak" type of situation for the US. Based soely on their dislike of President Obama.

Rigghhtttttttt.... . . . . . . . . ..   ::)  ::)  ::)
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: MikMaq on October 08, 2014, 12:36:08 PM
I love this idea that somehow ebama factors into this.

It's like blaiming bush for the actual hurricane.
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Primemuscle on October 08, 2014, 12:42:16 PM

No - im racist so even if Obama does 100% of things that are awesome, be it walk on water, solve cancer, stop the rising oceans, end poverty, etc - ill still hate him and give no credit since he is from Kenya and 1/2 black.  See how that works?    ;)  :D  ;D  >:(

Truer words you've never spoken.  ;D
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: headhuntersix on October 08, 2014, 12:47:59 PM
Satire for the fear mongering idiots that forcast an "outbeak" type of situation for the US. Based soely on their dislike of President Obama.

I'll sure as fuck blame Obama if a few more folks get it.
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Shockwave on October 08, 2014, 12:51:17 PM
I'll sure as fuck blame Obama if a few more folks get it.
Id blame whoever the fuck it is that decided a simple 'have you been in contact/infected' was sufficient to let people fly to the US.

Burn them all down now.
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 08, 2014, 01:02:07 PM
Truer words you've never spoken.  ;D

 :P
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: headhuntersix on October 08, 2014, 01:04:48 PM
Id blame whoever the fuck it is that decided a simple 'have you been in contact/infected' was sufficient to let people fly to the US.

Burn them all down now.


We all saw OutBreak...they smoked a whole town.....
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 08, 2014, 01:10:25 PM
Obamabola is afraid to piss off his black base of idiot voters before the mid terms to do the smart thing here, 
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 08, 2014, 01:16:44 PM
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/?lead=frisco-patient-exhibiting-ebola-symptoms

2nd one possible - says had contact w 1st one.


Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Dos Equis on October 08, 2014, 01:17:36 PM

We all saw OutBreak...they smoked a whole town.....

Good movie.
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Shockwave on October 08, 2014, 01:18:54 PM

We all saw OutBreak...they smoked a whole town.....
Actually ive never seen outbreak. Lol.
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Archer77 on October 08, 2014, 01:30:55 PM
Who is doing that?

I would like to know that as well. 
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: 240 is Back on October 08, 2014, 03:56:08 PM
Actually ive never seen outbreak. Lol.

it's a great movie.  go find it on netflix?
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Skip8282 on October 08, 2014, 04:01:11 PM


If i knew i was infected with fucking ebola i wouldnt put my FAMILY at risk nor countless thousands of others, id suck it up, cry like a bitch, and die like a man before id risk the lives of my wife and son.

 


Post of the fucking year!
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: MikMaq on October 08, 2014, 04:26:28 PM

Post of the fucking year!
lol the real question is would he risks the lives of america for his own families sake.

This is where his line of reasoning falls apart.


I'll be honest, if I get this shit I won't give a flying fuck about the rest of ya'll.

If I'm going down, I have enough rage and internal hatred, to wanna take ya'll down with me.

Just being honest.
Title: Re: Fox just.mentioned someone else in the US has ebola....
Post by: Archer77 on October 08, 2014, 04:28:32 PM
lol the real question is would he risks the lives of america for his own families sake.

This is where his line of reasoning falls apart.


I'll be honest, if I get this shit I won't give a flying fuck about the rest of ya'll.

If I'm going down, I have enough rage and internal hatred, to wanna take ya'll down with me.

Just being honest.


Makes it all the easier to put a bullet in your head.