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Title: insomnia on tren
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on October 08, 2014, 07:08:03 AM
Started training agaim after a 10 month layoff. Started 10 days ago some very potent tren A 100-150mg eod. It was 10-12years ago i was on tren  the last time and cant remember how my sleep was. The first 7nights was ok and i slept as i usual do but the last 3 nights ihave got max 2 hours of sleep. Slept 15mins awake 30mins slept 15 etc. I guess its tren a related anyone else reacts like this? Will it get better or will it be like this rest of the trencycle


as i said it was 10-12 years lsst time i was on tren and i do remember i slept  pretty bad but cant remember it was anything like this..im like a zombie in the morning. But fuck i forgot how powerful it is =D

Im also on100mg  test propp eod and 750mg t enanthate ew and they never make me sleep bad
Title: Re: insomnia on tren
Post by: Simple Simon on October 08, 2014, 08:00:21 AM
no trouble sleeping but bad night sweats
I only take 100/200 mgs a week as well.
Title: Re: insomnia on tren
Post by: kevthekid on October 08, 2014, 08:09:14 AM
Started training agaim after a 10 month layoff. Started 10 days ago some very potent tren A 100-150mg eod. It was 10-12years ago i was on tren  the last time and cant remember how my sleep was. The first 7nights was ok and i slept as i usual do but the last 3 nights ihave got max 2 hours of sleep. Slept 15mins awake 30mins slept 15 etc. I guess its tren a related anyone else reacts like this? Will it get better or will it be like this rest of the trencycle


as i said it was 10-12 years lsst time i was on tren and i do remember i slept  pretty bad but cant remember it was anything like this..im like a zombie in the morning. But fuck i forgot how powerful it is =D

Im also on100mg  test propp eod and 750mg t enanthate ew and they never make me sleep bad

It gets better after 3 weeks and you should take some prami it knocks me out for a good 6-8 hours every nihjt and I'm sound asleeo after 30 mins
Title: Re: insomnia on tren
Post by: residue on October 08, 2014, 08:25:06 AM
Started training agaim after a 10 month layoff. Started 10 days ago some very potent tren A 100-150mg eod. It was 10-12years ago i was on tren  the last time and cant remember how my sleep was. The first 7nights was ok and i slept as i usual do but the last 3 nights ihave got max 2 hours of sleep. Slept 15mins awake 30mins slept 15 etc. I guess its tren a related anyone else reacts like this? Will it get better or will it be like this rest of the trencycle


as i said it was 10-12 years lsst time i was on tren and i do remember i slept  pretty bad but cant remember it was anything like this..im like a zombie in the morning. But fuck i forgot how powerful it is =D

Im also on100mg  test propp eod and 750mg t enanthate ew and they never make me sleep bad
some some weed before bed
Title: Re: insomnia on tren
Post by: pestosterone on October 08, 2014, 09:42:11 AM
some some weed before bed
This is what I do and prami. You will be sound asleep sweating your ass off
Title: Re: insomnia on tren
Post by: Jizmo on October 08, 2014, 11:45:34 PM
I'm currently offseason, and for the first time have taken my tren dose to 1.6G/wk. Been 4 wks now (running tren e btw) and have been tossing and turning all night for the last several days. Always experienced night sweats, whether acetate or enanthate, but never insomnia this bad. Previous highest weekly tren dose was 1G/wk precontest acetate.

damn, 1.6g tren offseason? do you find tren more productive than deca/npp?
what else you run?
Title: Re: insomnia on tren
Post by: Simple Simon on October 08, 2014, 11:47:59 PM
I'm currently offseason, and for the first time have taken my tren dose to 1.6G/wk. Been 4 wks now (running tren e btw) and have been tossing and turning all night for the last several days. Always experienced night sweats, whether acetate or enanthate, but never insomnia this bad. Previous highest weekly tren dose was 1G/wk precontest acetate.
what are your current stats BF% wise?
1.6gms ???
That is one crazy dose.
Title: Re: insomnia on tren
Post by: WillGrant on October 09, 2014, 03:10:05 AM
Started training agaim after a 10 month layoff. Started 10 days ago some very potent tren A 100-150mg eod. It was 10-12years ago i was on tren  the last time and cant remember how my sleep was. The first 7nights was ok and i slept as i usual do but the last 3 nights ihave got max 2 hours of sleep. Slept 15mins awake 30mins slept 15 etc. I guess its tren a related anyone else reacts like this? Will it get better or will it be like this rest of the trencycle


as i said it was 10-12 years lsst time i was on tren and i do remember i slept  pretty bad but cant remember it was anything like this..im like a zombie in the morning. But fuck i forgot how powerful it is =D

Im also on100mg  test propp eod and 750mg t enanthate ew and they never make me sleep bad
Drop the test to 125mg a week if you want to keep tren in.

Only the lucky ones can run high test and tren at the same time.

You will need to stop the tren until the Enan is cleared.
Title: Re: insomnia on tren
Post by: WillGrant on October 09, 2014, 03:11:04 AM
Do the above and have zero issues sleeping and no night sweats  ;)
Title: Re: insomnia on tren
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on October 09, 2014, 03:18:38 AM
Drop the test to 125mg a week if you want to keep tren in.

Only the lucky ones can run high test and tren at the same time.

You will need to stop the tren until the Enan is cleared.
dude now that you say it i have heard before that this works good. Will give it a couple of days more and if i still sleep so bad i will drop the test..thanls
Title: Re: insomnia on tren
Post by: heenok on October 09, 2014, 03:58:05 AM
no trouble sleeping but bad night sweats
I only take 100/200 mgs a week as well.

is 100mgs a week really worth it  ???

i have a tren e vial laying around (infiniti 100mg/ml)
can i run 10 weeks at 100mg + test e for cruising?



Title: Re: insomnia on tren
Post by: Simple Simon on October 09, 2014, 06:45:31 AM
is 100mgs a week really worth it  ???

i have a tren e vial laying around (infiniti 100mg/ml)
can i run 10 weeks at 100mg + test e for cruising?




works for me.
Title: Re: insomnia on tren
Post by: Simple Simon on October 09, 2014, 08:23:57 AM
Quite honestly I do not know my BF%. My last show was in April, stage weight of 233lbs. Currently 288lbs and maintaining visible abs (hardly shredded but visible) and decent vascularity.

Current cycle is:

2g test cyp/wk
1.6g tren e/wk
1.25g EQ/wk
100mg drol/day
6iu GH/day
75iu slin/day

I hope this isnt Daz Ball.   ;D

By the way is that over 30ml of oil?
Where on earth do you put it all?
Title: Re: insomnia on tren
Post by: Simple Simon on October 09, 2014, 09:56:06 AM
Haha, no it's not. Actually just 21ml due to the mgs per cc I have - 200mg/ml tren e, and 250mg/ml each test and EQ.

That said, you're right, finding sufficient sites to rotate is a literal pain in the ass considering I loathe pinning traps and calves and pecs. I generally rotate each glute, lat and delt.
The thought of that turns my stomach.

Im just not cut out for this.
Title: Re: insomnia on tren
Post by: aintitgrand on October 09, 2014, 01:44:46 PM
some some weed before bed
This X1000. Any time I get insomnia (not necessarily cause of tren, but from any cause, usually stress) I pack a bowl and sleep like a baby.
Title: Re: insomnia on tren
Post by: whitewidow on October 09, 2014, 09:52:22 PM
Started training agaim after a 10 month layoff. Started 10 days ago some very potent tren A 100-150mg eod. It was 10-12years ago i was on tren  the last time and cant remember how my sleep was. The first 7nights was ok and i slept as i usual do but the last 3 nights ihave got max 2 hours of sleep. Slept 15mins awake 30mins slept 15 etc. I guess its tren a related anyone else reacts like this? Will it get better or will it be like this rest of the trencycle


as i said it was 10-12 years lsst time i was on tren and i do remember i slept  pretty bad but cant remember it was anything like this..im like a zombie in the morning. But fuck i forgot how powerful it is =D

Im also on100mg  test propp eod and 750mg t enanthate ew and they never make me sleep bad

I gotta use xanax to sleep due to steroid use. now I'm addicted but it started because of steroid use halo and tren would give me insomnia. I wouldn't suggest taking the route I went.If you can get melatonin working for you that would be best or maybe try some melatonin and 1 tab of benedryl.
Title: Re: insomnia on tren
Post by: Overload on October 11, 2014, 12:35:01 PM
I've used Tren for years off and on, i've never gotten used to the anxiety it increases and lack of sleep.  I have high anxiety to begin with, but Tren puts it through the roof.  It's worth the struggle though, i take Benedryl when it's hard to sleep and just deal with it.


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Title: Re: insomnia on tren
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on October 11, 2014, 02:02:19 PM
Thanks guys..took some benzo (xanax?) after the 4th night without sleeping and the next night amd might after that have been much better (took only benzo one night).. still wake 2 times..one at around 2 and one around 4 but sleep again after 20min..so im hoping my body starts to get used to it.


Just now if i only sleep this bad its worth it cause i have fallen in love with tren a again, after 2 weeks im much much bigger den before (yeah i know my muscles are more filled now with all the food and training) but still
Title: Re: insomnia on tren
Post by: whitewidow on October 12, 2014, 03:17:14 AM
Thanks guys..took some benzo (xanax?) after the 4th night without sleeping and the next night amd might after that have been much better (took only benzo one night).. still wake 2 times..one at around 2 and one around 4 but sleep again after 20min..so im hoping my body starts to get used to it.


Just now if i only sleep this bad its worth it cause i have fallen in love with tren a again, after 2 weeks im much much bigger den before (yeah i know my muscles are more filled now with all the food and training) but still

Be very careful using any kind of Benzo. a benzo would be any human tranquilizer usually prescribed for anxiety the main ones are xanax,valium,Ativan,and klonopin. These are all very effective for sleep and they also have muscle relaxant properties. It sucks they are so horribly addictive. I went the xanax route and man I got addicted but I took them for a few months not knwoing exactly how addictive they really were. If you only use xanax or another benzo for maybe a few days you should be ok but I would be very cautious I don;t want anybody to go through what I went through and am still going through. It's not as bad thee days but it's still a slight problem but sleep is very important!

I would try to use melatonin because it is natural and is also shown to raise your natural HGH level a bit ,you could also toss in 1 tab of benedryl and I would hope that will work for you guys struggling with Trensomnia. I know how bad Tren or halo Insomnia is but try to be strong!  don"t take the easy route like I did it just leads to addiction. You might not feel like a drug addict but once you use a drug like xanax or valium every night for a month or two you will get pretty sick trying to get to bed with nothing.
Title: Re: insomnia on tren
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on October 12, 2014, 06:44:41 AM
Yeah i know how addicted they are. Took just this time to get a good nights sleep. Have taken them before byt never more then once in a While when im im bad need of sleep
Title: Re: insomnia on tren
Post by: Overload on October 12, 2014, 07:47:27 AM
This stuff provides mild relief, but I've used it with decent results.

http://www.amazon.com/Sundown-Naturals-Melatonin-Nightime-Capsules/dp/B004X8JMT0/ref=sr_1_1/192-2096046-6586030?ie=UTF8&qid=1413125152&sr=8-1&keywords=sundown+super+snooze


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Title: Re: insomnia on tren
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on October 12, 2014, 08:16:56 AM
Cool thanks will check it out..

but fuck i had forgotten how powerful tren a is, im growing so fast now so my friend was shocked today at the gym. My temper never changes on gear but tren def makes me more edgy.
Title: Re: insomnia on tren
Post by: Simple Simon on October 12, 2014, 09:30:46 AM
Cool thanks will check it out..

but fuck i had forgotten how powerful tren a is, im growing so fast now so my friend was shocked today at the gym. My temper never changes on gear but tren def makes me more edgy.

and you just have to be right. 
Title: Re: insomnia on tren
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on October 12, 2014, 10:29:41 AM
and you just have to be right. 
haha no. I can admit if im wrong. Never happend tough =/
Title: Re: insomnia on tren
Post by: mazfit on October 27, 2014, 09:02:52 AM
you got good tren. well done on that

would never ever ever use enanth though just doesnt hit as hard or well as ace.

ace everytime. unfortunatley for you us critters your hgh seems to be crap

bad tren ace insomnia = 4ius of legit hgh before bed one hour, best sleep ever

im on 1.2g or ace atm 800mg npp 1g prop 500mg mast 20mg methtl-dien

4ius hgh before bed thank you sir thank you life thank you HGH 0 sleep like a damn child - wake up with hands curled up like i have arthiritus and a head so heavy i wish i didnt have a job and i question if being pro is worth it. yes pros have jobs unless you shift gear for a living which i do not
Title: Re: insomnia on tren
Post by: Jizmo on October 27, 2014, 02:16:38 PM
and you just have to be right. 

lol this is so true
when my lifting buddy and i are on tren at the same time we fight all the time because we have different opinions on everything
roid rage all day
Title: Re: insomnia on tren
Post by: mazfit on October 28, 2014, 01:56:47 AM
when on tren i moved out of my flart with GF
punched a whole through wall
and then cried in car.

Title: Re: insomnia on tren
Post by: whitewidow on October 28, 2014, 02:45:19 AM
you got good tren. well done on that

would never ever ever use enanth though just doesnt hit as hard or well as ace.

ace everytime. unfortunatley for you us critters your hgh seems to be crap

bad tren ace insomnia = 4ius of legit hgh before bed one hour, best sleep ever

im on 1.2g or ace atm 800mg npp 1g prop 500mg mast 20mg methtl-dien

4ius hgh before bed thank you sir thank you life thank you HGH 0 sleep like a damn child - wake up with hands curled up like i have arthiritus and a head so heavy i wish i didnt have a job and i question if being pro is worth it. yes pros have jobs unless you shift gear for a living which i do not

damn people still use methyl-dienolone?
Title: Re: insomnia on tren
Post by: aintitgrand on October 28, 2014, 08:47:36 AM
when on tren i moved out of my flart with GF
punched a whole through wall
and then cried in car.


Wtf? You guys need to learn to relax. Buy some weed haha.
I moved in with my gf recently while on tren (still on for another 4 weeks). I definitely feel more aggression and we disagree more it seems (100% my fault), but I've never had the urge to punch anyone/anything. I do get more sensitive mood-wise, but that could also be due to the diet.
Title: Re: insomnia on tren
Post by: mazfit on October 28, 2014, 09:39:55 AM
damn people still use methyl-dienolone?

Methyl dien is one of the strongest products oral around

the shit sold in the past dosed at 2mg caps waste of time, most of it didnt even have methyl-d in it

now 20mg methyl dien is the shit
Title: Re: insomnia on tren
Post by: pestosterone on October 28, 2014, 09:56:53 AM
Wtf? You guys need to learn to relax. Buy some weed haha.
I moved in with my gf recently while on tren (still on for another 4 weeks). I definitely feel more aggression and we disagree more it seems (100% my fault), but I've never had the urge to punch anyone/anything. I do get more sensitive mood-wise, but that could also be due to the diet.
Weed indeed
Title: Re: insomnia on tren
Post by: Jizmo on October 28, 2014, 11:13:24 AM
Methyl dien is one of the strongest products oral around

the shit sold in the past dosed at 2mg caps waste of time, most of it didnt even have methyl-d in it

now 20mg methyl dien is the shit

how does methyldienolone compare to methyltrienolone? that shits my fav AAS ever
Title: Re: insomnia on tren
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on October 28, 2014, 11:36:54 AM
you got good tren. well done on that

would never ever ever use enanth though just doesnt hit as hard or well as ace.

ace everytime. unfortunatley for you us critters your hgh seems to be crap

bad tren ace insomnia = 4ius of legit hgh before bed one hour, best sleep ever

im on 1.2g or ace atm 800mg npp 1g prop 500mg mast 20mg methtl-dien

4ius hgh before bed thank you sir thank you life thank you HGH 0 sleep like a damn child - wake up with hands curled up like i have arthiritus and a head so heavy i wish i didnt have a job and i question if being pro is worth it. yes pros have jobs unless you shift gear for a living which i do not
yeah is really potent my tren.but my sleep is good now..took like 1.5-2 weeks before my sleep was as usual. . 6 days it was horrible...been on only 300mg tren and 500mg test  4weeks now ans made good improvements...tomorrow i will bump up thw testo to 1g, tren to 500mg and 75mg dbol ed
Title: Re: insomnia on tren
Post by: mazfit on October 29, 2014, 02:14:17 AM
how does methyldienolone compare to methyltrienolone? that shits my fav AAS ever

Methyl-T is stronger - more CNS action - Changes me as a person for 3-4 hours after dose, Train harder feel godly.

Methyl-D doesnt have that CNS action or effect on mood, just strength, hardness and size.

Both very toxic - i was running methyl-d 20mg with Anadrol 150mg - didnt feel great tbh if all i did was bodybuild and didnt have a job, id have ran it and just trained and sleep like i used to when all i focused on is bodybuilding, but not feasable with job - on top of tren npp prop mast hgh ghrp2 - falling asleep at work.