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Two Boxers who i liked were Jim Watt of Glasgow Scotland and the Great Irish boxer Barry McGuigan.
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Jim Watt...
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Carl Thompson and Steve Collins were under rated in recent times imo.
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Herol Graham, best boxer to never win a world title in any weight division.
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I always felt calzage didn't get the kudos he deserved
guy was the pound for pound champ at one time I reckon
beat everyone they put in front of him
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I always felt calzage didn't get the kudos he deserved
guy was the pound for pound champ at one time I reckon
beat everyone they put in front of him
Agreed, I didnt like his pitter patter style when he came on the scene but he turned out to be a true warrior, got tagged and came back slugging.
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Not really a Calzaghe fan tbh.
He had some good wins but spent too long in the wilderness doing nothing apart from defending a worthless belt.
He eventually took some bigger fights but even then, didn't always take the best ones that were available at the time. I found him frustrating more then anything since he was talented no doubt.
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Rocky Balboa was good.
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Not really a Calzaghe fan tbh.
He had some good wins but spent too long in the wilderness doing nothing apart from defending a worthless belt.
He eventually took some bigger fights but even then, didn't always take the best ones that were available at the time. I found him frustrating more then anything since he was talented no doubt.
the americans avoided him because he wasn't box office over there
he was a nice guy didn't fit in to the scene
as a pure technical boxer he was amazing
good power and a great chin too
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the americans avoided him because he wasn't box office over there
he was a nice guy didn't fit in to the scene
as a pure technical boxer he was amazing
good power and a great chin too
His taking apart of Jeff Lacey was one of the best boxing displays I have seen.
Lacy thought he was going to walk through Calzaghe.
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the americans avoided him because he wasn't box office over there
he was a nice guy didn't fit in to the scene
as a pure technical boxer he was amazing
good power and a great chin too
But America was and is the heart of boxing and the big stars were American at the time. The honus was on Calzaghe to make a name of himself by going to the states to fight them like what Hatton did. Someone like Jones was not going to travel to Europe to fight an alphabet title holder much in the same way Mayweather wouldn't come to the UK just to fight Brook.
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But America was and is the heart of boxing and the big stars were American at the time. The honus was on Calzaghe to make a name of himself by going to the states to fight them like what Hatton did. Someone like Jones was going to travel to Europe to fight an alphabet title holder much in the same way Mayweather wouldn't come to the UK just to fight Brook.
No, not like what Hatton did at all.
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No, not like what Hatton did at all.
Hatton did at least chase the big fights. You can't take that away from him.
He should have fought Witter though.
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But America was and is the heart of boxing and the big stars were American at the time. The honus was on Calzaghe to make a name of himself by going to the states to fight them like what Hatton did. Someone like Jones was not going to travel to Europe to fight an alphabet title holder much in the same way Mayweather wouldn't come to the UK just to fight Brook.
boxing is all politics
calzage could get 5000 welsh fans if he fought in wales
big money
they still ducked him because they knew he would pick the apart
like simon says he made lacey his bitch and everyone said he would walk through him
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But America was and is the heart of boxing and the big stars were American at the time. The honus was on Calzaghe to make a name of himself by going to the states to fight them like what Hatton did. Someone like Jones was not going to travel to Europe to fight an alphabet title holder much in the same way Mayweather wouldn't come to the UK just to fight Brook.
At the time there was only Roy Jones , who wanted to move up in weights anyway... Calazaghi would have struggled with Jones as a super middle, he had the beating of everyone else, Ben and Eubank have stated this many times.. Id still back callazaghi against anyone, he always found a way, and actualy moved up the gears when the opponent was better
My favourite scotish boxer was Scott Harrison, shame he was such a self destructive piss head
Nazeem was much better than he was given credit for, he beat him self in the end by training lazy and surrounding him self with yes men, soon as any boxer fires the coach that got him there you know it won't end well
Fave British fighter for me, Nigel Ben, hands down most exciting... Not saying he he had the beating of everyone, but he'd die trying
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At the time there was only Roy Jones , who wanted to move up in weights anyway... Calazaghi would have struggled with Jones as a super middle, he had the beating of everyone else, Ben and Eubank have stated this many times.. Id still back callazaghi against anyone, he always found a way, and actualy moved up the gears when the opponent was better
My favourite scotish boxer was Scott Harrison, shame he was such a self destructive piss head
Nazeem was much better than he was given credit for, he beat him self in the end by training lazy and surrounding him self with yes men, soon as any boxer fires the coach that got him there you know it won't end well
Fave British fighter for me, Nigel Ben, hands down most exciting... Not saying he he had the beating of everyone, but he'd die trying
Nigel Benn was an ex Fusilier or so i was told. He trained with a Guy i met from the 2nd Battalion,2nd Battalion Royal Regiment of Fusiliers) called George. He told me he sparred with him. George was a big guy with hands like shovels. He did some Door work here in Celle, was a good guy i never knew his second name. The 2nd Battalion was stationed here in Trenchard Barracks. I worked in the camp at the time.
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Cocky...but good in his prime.
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I know pretty much everything about boxing.
Perhaps more than is actually healthy.
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I know pretty much everything about boxing.
Perhaps more than is actually healthy.
post your thoughts up n some british boxers then
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boxing is all politics
calzage could get 5000 welsh fans if he fought in wales
big money
they still ducked him because they knew he would pick the apart
like simon says he made lacey his bitch and everyone said he would walk through him
What makes you think they ducked him? He was, up until the Lacy fight, just seen as another Europeon based fighter clinging onto a pointless title and padding up a record against z-list opponents. He would have been viewed no differently to the German based guys like Michalczewski (under rated), Erdei, Ottke etc.
If Cazlaghe felt he was being ducked then he should have gone to the US, fought some divisional gatekeepers and got himself noticed.
Look how Khan went about his business. The moment he beat Kotelnik he went straight to America and took on Malignaggi.
I like boxers who take risks and take on the best available fights. For all his talent, Calzaghe didn't do this. The fact it took him 10 years to unify says it all.
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What makes you think they ducked him? He was, up until the Lacy fight, just seen as another Europeon based fighter clinging onto a pointless title and padding up a record against z-list opponents. He would have been viewed no differently to the German based guys like Michalczewski (under rated), Erdei, Ottke etc.
If Cazlaghe felt he was being ducked then he should have gone to the US, fought some divisional gatekeepers and got himself noticed.
Look how Khan went about his business. The moment he beat Kotelnik he went straight to America and took on Malignaggi.
I like boxers who take risks and take on the best available fights. For all his talent, Calzaghe didn't do this. The fact it took him 10 years to unify says it all.
by khans time they had learned their lesson
would you rather fight for 50000 fans in wales
or go on the undercard at some shitty American show fighting bums
or go and fight the champ in america for 10 percent of the purse
also at that time you have to remember there was a lot of competition in the uk
a lot of great high level fighters about
his toughest fight of his career was probably against robin reid
who could have been given the nod was that close
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I think frank warren played a big part in holding calazaghi and Hatton back, he made sure he made his money many tines over before they took on 50/50 fights
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post your thoughts up n some british boxers then
Ok mate, erm
I think perhaps right now one of our finest fighters to recently join the professional ranks in the last couple of years, is probably Joe Costello.
As an amatuer he was the youngest fighter to win the European gold. As a schoolboy at circa 43kg's he was rated as the no1 in the world.
He's just turned over at lightweight with Frank Warren, and upon his debut, against the super-durable Yusef Al Hamida.
Don't let Hamidi's record fool you, he comes to deliberately lose - but sometimes when he is pissed off, he will turn you over. I'd guess that most of you have seen Anthony Crolla? well Hamidi handed him his first loss. I'm sure a few have heard of Manchester's John Murray too? on the Froch undercard he got his ass handed to him by Hamidi and how he scored a win, nobody could believe it. Only 1 guy from 87 fights has ever stopped Hamidi, and that was a prime Michael Gomez who did him in three rounds.
Costello flattened him in a round without breaking a sweat. Costello is still very green and raw as a professional, but I think he could be one to watch, definitely.
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I think frank warren played a big part in holding calazaghi and Hatton back, he made sure he made his money many tines over before they took on 50/50 fights
I think Warren played a part but Calzaghe has to take some blame too. When they eventually split, Calzaghe took on a washed up Jones rather then the more credible fighters available at the time (Hopkins rematch, Dawson, Pavlik etc).
would you rather fight for 50000 fans in wales
The thing is, Calzaghe was only selling out the big stadiums towards the end of his career. Most of his bouts in Cardiff prior to the Lacy fight were in front of crowds of around 5-7000. He wasn’t really a major draw until he unified.
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Internationally, another tidy pick is Puerto Rico's Felix Verdejo.
He cites fellow countrymen Miguel Cotto and Tito Trinidad as his inspiration. 15-0 so far , 11 stoppages - and he definitely has a really exciting pro style. He's signed with Top Rank and I'd also tip him for interesting things in the future as long as he keeps his head down.
My pick from 2006 has finally arrived on the big stage (GGG) and my tip for 2010 in Kovalev has now finally on the verge of a marquee fight with Bernard Hopkins on boxnation next month. The station is looking really good value right now, as they offer up that fight, plus Pacquiao vs Algeri and then Fury vs Chisora (and Billy Joe Saunders vs Chris Eubank jr as chief support) - all for just £12.00
Whereas Sky is wanting £17.00 for a fight between Clev and Bellew. Two light heavies who failed on the world stage, and now fight at cruiser with no title on the line. Sky Subcribers are expected to pay this money in addition to their £23.50 sports subs, on top of their base subscription cost. It's a poor approach from Matchroom and I hope it's a failure out of principle.
Edit - sorry, continuing from Golovkin and Kovalev as my previous big tips - watch out for 6-0 Artur Beterbiev who is from the same mould.
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Does no body rate the little Irishman who mcguigan is mentoring, I think he will spark Scott quig and make a splash on the world scene..
Box nation is even worse than sky, monthly sub fees for the odd fight and endless re runs, frank warren is slowly dying in top boxing, none of his fighters get any exposure
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Kirkland Laing, could have been one of the greats, beats Roberto Duran and went missing for a week partying after.
Guy loved to party way too much.
Another legend is Aaron Pryor, and absolute machine.
His career is blighted by accusations of stimulant use.
Guy fought most of his career blind in one eye.
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Does no body rate the little Irishman who mcguigan is mentoring, I think he will spark Scott quig and make a splash on the world scene..
Box nation is even worse than sky, monthly sub fees for the odd fight and endless re runs, frank warren is slowly dying in top boxing, none of his fighters get any exposure
Frampton is a very tidy fighter, I'd not be 100% about him beating Quigg - but the dark horse is probably unbeaten Kid Galahad, the unbeaten Ingle trained fighter. Real name Barry Awad ;D - he is a very decent super bantamweight indeed too.
But it's all immaterial when you have the unbelievably skilled and crafty Guilermo Rigondeaux at the top of the division. He is perhaps the most skillful fighter in many years. He turned pro late after defecting from Cuba, but at 34 he is still seems like he has plenty of fights left in him. He boxes like a 10th dan martial artist. Almost without thinking.
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Frampton is a very tidy fighter, I'd not be 100% about him beating Quigg - but the dark horse is probably unbeaten Kid Galahad, the unbeaten Ingle trained fighter. Real name Barry Awad ;D - he is a very decent super bantamweight indeed too.
But it's all immaterial when you have the unbelievably skilled and crafty Guilermo Rigondeaux at the top of the division. He is perhaps the most skillful fighter in many years. He turned pro late after defecting from Cuba, but at 34 he is still seems like he has plenty of fights left in him. He boxes like a 10th dan martial artist. Almost without thinking.
isn't galahad a poor mans prince naseem
naz could bang as well
from what ive seen of galahad
he seemed a bit all over the place
that was the other thing about naz although he was flash he was very technically sound too
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Kirkland Laing, could have been one of the greats, beats Roberto Duran and went missing for a week partying after.
His brother Tony Laing was decent too, won British title at welter if I remember from memory. Kirkland did catch Roberto on a day he didn't really care very much, but as a Brit we brush that under the carpet.
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Frampton is a very tidy fighter, I'd not be 100% about him beating Quigg - but the dark horse is probably unbeaten Kid Galahad, the unbeaten Ingle trained fighter. Real name Barry Awad ;D - he is a very decent super bantamweight indeed too.
But it's all immaterial when you have the unbelievably skilled and crafty Guilermo Rigondeaux at the top of the division. He is perhaps the most skillful fighter in many years. He turned pro late after defecting from Cuba, but at 34 he is still seems like he has plenty of fights left in him. He boxes like a 10th dan martial artist. Almost without thinking.
If im thinking of the same Cuban I think he sent me to sleep several times, too clinical and technical
Yafa kafi?, has looked good for a while too, id like to see him stepped up... Don't rate gallahad as highly as his British peers just yet.
Big Anthony Joshua is the biggest prospect in the country for a long time...
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isn't galahad a poor mans prince naseem
The Ingle's once read an article that refered to him as the Aldi Naz - and have called it him often ever since.
Stylistically they are chalk and cheese, if anything Naz did everything wrong but he had the balance of a gyroscope and the reflexes of a cat when he was young. I caught him at the Mansfield Leisure Centre in 92,93 and 94 when he was still a professional novice. But you could see he was going to be a very big star indeed.
Interestingly, when Carl Froch turned professional - Naz knew he was a fan and took him for a spin in his Testarossa in a bid to become his manager, also the Ingle gym wanted to train him. But they take a large slice from their fighters - and ultimately after winning the Bronze at the Amateur Worlds in Belfast, he decided to join Mick Hennessy whom had just began out as a promoter after formerly being part of Panix Promotions (who looked after Lennox at the end).
Hennessy had esteemed trainer McCracken, looking after a group of lads he called the 'Real class of 2002' consisting of Froch, David Walker, Mathew Thirwall and Lee Meagre. All bright amateurs and promising professionals. David Haye fought on one of their early BBC broadcasts, but later he signed with Frank Maloney instead.
Sadly Audley Harrison then won a gold at the olympics, and then he negitoated to take their full boxing budget of £1m year himself, delivering absolute dross against binmen, taxi drivers and nightclub bouncers. And shortly after the BBC withdrew from the sport altogether on a professional level.
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Best p4p figher in any division for me is Guillermo Rigondeaux. Only a little fella but he would take out Quigg and Frampton on the same night. Unbelievable skills.
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If im thinking of the same Cuban I think he sent me to sleep several times, too clinical and technical
Yafa kafi?, has looked good for a while too, id like to see him stepped up... Don't rate gallahad as highly as his British peers just yet.
Big Anthony Joshua is the biggest prospect in the country for a long time...
Yes, HBO have dropped him from their rota after he put a clinic on their exciting / big-punching Nonito Donaire - he made the lion look like a pussy cat. But in doing so he sent the audience to sleep. He was too good. I nearly made that fight, my friends did - it was at the Radio City Music Hall in New York, a really classic venue.
Yafai suffered a torn left bicep after beating Ramabeletsa, until then he was looking the goods. His brother Gamal Yafai, slighty bigger at super bantam could be the pick of the two.
I agree, Joshua is a great prospect in the marquee division - but he was lucky, very lucky with the opening round victory over the Cuban and some thought he also lost the Olympic final to Roberto Camarelle , the Italian policeman.
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His brother Tony Laing was decent too, won British title at welter if I remember from memory. Kirkland did catch Roberto on a day he didn't really care very much, but as a Brit we brush that under the carpet.
Yes, I agree, a fully fit Duran would have destroyed him.
Heres Duran taking apart Davey Moore, totally demolished him
should have been stopped way earlier.
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Davey Moore could have been killed that night thanks to the terrible referee, Ernesto Magana. Apparently his mother and girlfriend almost passed out with screaming, tearing their vocal chords.
Killed by his own 4x4, left the hand break off and it rolled over him !
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Yes, HBO have dropped him from their rota after he put a clinic on their exciting / big-punching Nonito Donaire - he made the lion look like a pussy cat. But in doing so he sent the audience to sleep. He was too good. I nearly made that fight, my friends did - it was at the Radio City Music Hall in New York, a really classic venue.
Yafai suffered a torn left bicep after beating Ramabeletsa, until then he was looking the goods. His brother Gamal Yafai, slighty bigger at super bantam could be the pick of the two.
I agree, Joshua is a great prospect in the marquee division - but he was lucky, very lucky with the opening round victory over the Cuban and some thought he also lost the Olympic final to Roberto Camarelle , the Italian policeman.
The thing with Joshua is he was a rank novice when he made the Olympic squad, he came late into boxing..
He seems idealy suited to the pro's, also has the best physique I've seen for a long time on a heavy, I hate seeing pro fighters with floppy tits and a belly
On the same subject, if fatty mcdermot had lost 4 or 5 stone of the fat he carried he'd have been a huge punching super middle
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Kirkland Laing, could have been one of the greats, beats Roberto Duran and went missing for a week partying after.
Guy loved to party way too much.
Another legend is Aaron Pryor, and absolute machine.
His career is blighted by accusations of stimulant use.
Guy fought most of his career blind in one eye.
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I was working in East Kilbride when Scott Harrison was barred from every pub in the town, boy was a complete fucking idiot. Would go around giving the big, "do you know who i am" and trying to twat the bouncers after a few drinks. Genuinely fancied rattling one off his puss if he started on me but he kept it for the doormen. girl.
Calzaghe had incredible cardio and great hand speed but suffered ridiculous frailty of his hands. Benn was a banger that could most certainly put anyone to sleep in the division, Eubank was my favourite of that era for everything he offered. Eubank Jr has alot of promise, i see him beating DeGale within 18 months.
Until a few years ago the legendary banger Earnie Shavers was working the doors down here in the North West. 215lbs of pure juggernaut power, probably went further than his skillset should have allowed him to.
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I was working in East Kilbride when Scott Harrison was barred from every pub in the town, boy was a complete fucking idiot. Would go around giving the big, "do you know who i am" and trying to twat the bouncers after a few drinks. Genuinely fancied rattling one off his puss if he started on me but he kept it for the doormen. girl.
Calzaghe had incredible cardio and great hand speed but suffered ridiculous frailty of his hands. Benn was a banger that could most certainly put anyone to sleep in the division, Eubank was my favourite of that era for everything he offered. Eubank Jr has alot of promise, i see him beating DeGale within 18 months.
Until a few years ago the legendary banger Earnie Shavers was working the doors down here in the North West. 215lbs of pure juggernaut power, probably went further than his skillset should have allowed him to.
Eubank was my favourite, just his whole image and persona and his approach to the fight game.
His story about the fight with Watson in his autobiography is inspiring.
Shavers was on the doors in Liverpool wasnt he?
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Eubank was my favourite, just his whole image and persona and his approach to the fight game.
His story about the fight with Watson in his autobiography is inspiring.
Shavers was on the doors in Liverpool wasnt he?
eubank was my favourite
I loves his persona
he beat benn at his home game when benn was a stone cold killer
he was never the same fighter after the Watson fight though
he always used to stop throwing when he had a fighter in trouble
if you look at his knock out percentage before and after the Watson fight
tells you everything you need to know
his son isn't bad but has no punching power
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eubank was my favourite
I loves his persona
he beat benn at his home game when benn was a stone cold killer
he was never the same fighter after the Watson fight though
he always used to stop throwing when he had a fighter in trouble
if you look at his knock out percentage before and after the Watson fight
tells you everything you need to know
his son isn't bad but has no punching power
He talks about that in his autobiography , he cites the fight with Collins when he rocked him and just couldn't move forward to finish him, his trainer slapped him across the face when he went back to the corner.
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He talks about that in his autobiography , he cites the fight with Collins when he rocked him and just couldn't move forward to finish him, his trainer slapped him across the face when he went back to the corner.
he did it with henry Wharton too
to the point where he was complaining to the ref for not stopping it
rather than finishing him off
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Yeah Shavers was on the doors here, Eubank could have and should have beaten Collins but he had a long standing apprehension to engage once someone was in trouble. If it was a 1 punch KO he was fine but his killer instinct was shattered by the Watson result. Unlike Benn, who simply did not give a fuck about what he did to Mcclellan.
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Eubank talks about the reason he stood up after he got floored in the 11th by Watson.
He said that he got up to take his beating like a man, almost anyone would have stayed down in that situation, he had been soundly beaten the entire fight, all he was doing was getting up to take more punishment.
He called it "the killing time", he didn't mean that in a sinister way but he was saying that there comes a time in everyones life that defines them, he said that was his.
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Eubank talks about the reason he stood up after he got floored in the 11th by Watson.
He said that he got up to take his beating like a man, almost anyone would have stayed down in that situation, he had been soundly beaten the entire fight, all he was doing was getting up to take more punishment.
He called it "the killing time", he didn't mean that in a sinister way but he was saying that there comes a time in everyones life that defines them, he said that was his.
that was the other reason I liked him so much there was no give in him
his will power overcame his physical limitations in that fight
its a tragedy what happened to Watson
it marred one of the greatest fights ever
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Eubank & Benn were great servants of British Boxing, but they knew where to draw the line - and that was against stepping in with James Toney at the same point in time at 168lb.
Toney was such a old school boxer, shame he preferred working out at Burger King at the end.
His 175 fight against Jirov was sublime and still perhaps one of the best light heavyweight fights I've seen to this day. Then he stepped up and halted Evander Holyfield at heavyweight in 9 rounds the fight after.
And Roy Jones junior, was a step even above James Toney, to go from the IBF middlewight title, straight up for the IBF super middleweight title and win so crisply, just showed Benn and Eubank to be absolutely nothing to him at that point in time.
And I say that with a heavy heart, as a big fan of chris and nigel.
Check this old vid
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Peter Fury, uncle and trainer of Tyson Fury says the Derek Chisora fight in a few weeks time has still not been signed for yet !
Jeez.
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In a purely hypothetical world - if Watson had finished Eubank in that fight how do you think he would have managed against Toney? I thought that, as a boxer, he was better than both Eubank & Benn in terms of ability & would have established himself.
Worthy of noting that my first post was in reference to Herol "Bomber" Graham, a man that both guys refused to even consider fighting because they knew what would happen. If he had a chin that could take a good crack he would have been HOF material no doubt. Absolutely dismantled The Hawk and was seconds away from beating him before he became immortalised in KO highlight reels.
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Only british middle to stand against Toney or jones is calazahgi....
A J looked monstorous last night, he will walk thru david price next week never mind in a years time....
Selby looked very impressive.....
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Joshua shouldnt fall victim to the hype machine, has had a few hidings in sparring according to some folk. He looks fantastic against nobodies but HAS to step up now. Sprott isnt going to give him anything at this stage of his career that he hasnt already faced, infact its a waste of a fight IMO.
I still have alot of faith in Price, hasnt been outclassed at all. Yeah Thompson beat him twice but caught a good bang with his guard completely down (rookie mistake) & then he punched himself out and was beaten by fatigue. He will come again.
When Prescott smashed Khan to bits everyone said he was finished. Numerous belts & multiple world titles later hes still a marquee name on the world stage. Either way we have a bright future as a nation.
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What worried me about price was the way he just gave up in the second fight, fatigue or not the likes if Ben or Eubank would have had to be carried out the ring, there was no giving up in them, look at the beatings Eubanks took when he moved up weights late in his career
Joshua only has 6 yrs of experience, eventualy he will fight a tricky fucker with a good chin, who also has a punch, that's when we'll see what he's made of, but until then im enjoying the ride watching an outstanding young athlete
Incidently I think he has the beating of all the Brit heavys bar David haye , that is at this moment in his career
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I dont the get the calls for Joshua having to step up "right now" , the guy didnt even buy a pair of boxing gloves until 2007.
The year Calzaghe boxed Kessler, Joshua had never even hit a punch bag !
His amateur career, whilst sensational - consisted of 34 fights I believe or so. He's not been afforded the luxury of a long and illustrious amateur birth such as Lennox who went to two Olympics.
He's a formidable talent, but he needs lots of rounds. Even if they come in just 2-3 per victim.
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wasn't Joshua fighting last night
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wasn't Joshua fighting last night
Destroyed a guy in two rounds.
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he looks the real deal
if he has got a chin and stamina
future world champ of peace
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Future of British HW boxing: Ben Flower. ;D
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I always felt calzage didn't get the kudos he deserved
guy was the pound for pound champ at one time I reckon
beat everyone they put in front of him
A lot of jealousy in the sport at that time, from fighters who were protected from 50/50 fights to maintain a record. FFS the guy boxed with busted hands in most of his championship fights and won every single time. Guy had Froch's chin, Khan's handspeed, FMW defense lol was a beast.
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AJ and Eddie Hearn's interview post fight was interesting. kept saying now its on to phase two, gonna step him up now. after Sprott, reckon Sexton and maybe Mike Perez and another against a world ranked fighter before big clash with David Price in the summer. After Fury/Chisora fulfil their mandatory shot with Klitschko then think AJ for the British against Fury/Chisora this time next year.
2015 massive for him, as everyone knows AJ has an old head on young shoulders. very smart and genuine guy, he'll go all the way.
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he looks the real deal
if he has got a chin and stamina
future world champ of peace
Yep, he hs natural talent - it's very obvious from his last few fights.
They need to manage him well, and get him another 5 or so fights under his belt as he'll need a good 20-25 rounds before he starts doing the europeans and other title fights.
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some great comments on this thread... Good show Chaps.. ;D
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Too early to tell with AJ. Has potential to reach the top but we'll have to wait and see.
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Boxing aside, he is a great 'natural' athlete lol ;D
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17st @ 6'6...its possible...he does look very good tho...bodybuilding makes you very cynical
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Rumours. now as I say rumours are he s very bad against aggressive come at you fighters which is why he hasn't fought anyone like that. Hes had beatings off aggressive cruisers in the gym I ve heard. Ive heard this from a couple of pro fighters.
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He's got no chance against flowers then Darren
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Nigel Benn was an ex Fusilier or so i was told. He trained with a Guy i met from the 2nd Battalion,2nd Battalion Royal Regiment of Fusiliers) called George. He told me he sparred with him. George was a big guy with hands like shovels. He did some Door work here in Celle, was a good guy i never knew his second name. The 2nd Battalion was stationed here in Trenchard Barracks. I worked in the camp at the time.
wrote with an ex Fusilier last night. Nigel Benn was 1 Battalion here in the pic and George who i met in Celle is on the right. Forgot his second name but was told again last night, George Jay. big Guy who was on their Provo staff.
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wrote with an ex Fusilier last night. Nigel Benn was 1 Battalion here in the pic and George who i met in Celle is on the right. Forgot his second name but was told again last night, George Jay. big Guy who was on their Provo staff.
He was young and skinny there, would have been like a wild cat at that weight...
I worked with an ex squady that boxed terry marsh and beat him, im not sure if marsh was in the forces or if it was an open amature bout, you'd never have guessed that he boxed at light welter , the bloke ended up playing as a prop with a 19" neck
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He was young and skinny there, would have been like a wild cat at that weight...
I worked with an ex squady that boxed terry marsh and beat him, im not sure if marsh was in the forces or if it was an open amature bout, you'd never have guessed that he boxed at light welter , the bloke ended up playing as a prop with a 19" neck
Yes Terry Marsh another intresting Boxer..
http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Terry_Marsh
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Eubank & Benn were great servants of British Boxing, but they knew where to draw the line - and that was against stepping in with James Toney at the same point in time at 168lb.
Toney was such a old school boxer, shame he preferred working out at Burger King at the end.
His 175 fight against Jirov was sublime and still perhaps one of the best light heavyweight fights I've seen to this day. Then he stepped up and halted Evander Holyfield at heavyweight in 9 rounds the fight after.
And Roy Jones junior, was a step even above James Toney, to go from the IBF middlewight title, straight up for the IBF super middleweight title and win so crisply, just showed Benn and Eubank to be absolutely nothing to him at that point in time.
And I say that with a heavy heart, as a big fan of chris and nigel.
Check this old vid
Hate to be "that guy", but Toney v Jirov was at cruiser. I am a complete Toney nut hugger, his fights against McCallum were some of the best technical boxing I've seen.
Will wind my neck back in now...
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Hate to be "that guy", but Toney v Jirov was at cruiser. I am a complete Toney nut hugger, his fights against McCallum were some of the best technical boxing I've seen.
Will wind my neck back in now...
No your right, I remember it now because it was at the original 190lb and not the latest 200lb limit.
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No your right, I remember it now because it was at the original 190lb and not the latest 200lb limit.
Cool, didn't want to come across as a pedant as you clearly know your shit.
I was so hyped for that fight, esp after the left hook he hit Robinson with in the prev fight. The meltdowns Jirov losing caused on eastsideboxing were brilliant.
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Eastsideboxing! That was a great place in the day! Sucks now. Theres a rip off called checkhookboxing but its just not the same.
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Eastsideboxing! That was a great place in the day! Sucks now. Theres a rip off called checkhookboxing but its just not the same.
The problem is that eastside was neglected, the german owner set up the spin-off site boxingnews24 with 'troll' ficticious authors who simply created outlandish headlines to scores clicks from visitors "Froch is bum" "Khan will get spanked" etc etc. They fed into the same forum - and attracted loads of idiots led to disparaging comments about Warren etc which led to legal threats against them.
As a result of that they over-modded the forum to the point it was completly sterile. And started banning regulars - so they left and set up their own.
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Eastsideboxing's mainboard used to make stormfront look left wing on times.
Used to like boxrec's UK forum, apart from that Spud bloke.
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Eastsideboxing's mainboard used to make stormfront look left wing on times.
Used to like boxrec's UK forum, apart from that Spud bloke.
Woolatt's alright but gets on his soap box occasionally , I have met John Shep who built boxrec. Nice bloke, from Donny, used to work for the coal board.
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Eastsideboxing's mainboard used to make stormfront look left wing on times.
Used to like boxrec's UK forum, apart from that Spud bloke.
Yeh that was "Mankind" behind most of that. I never liked "scarlatutings" or "Strike" both know all chip on their shoulder types. There were some excellent posters on there who really knew their stuff though.
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Cleverly v bellew next month looks intresting, pretty much a 50/50, groves and de gail are both fighting on the bill also, altho sadly not against each other, I think de gail would win 2nd time round
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I think Eubank Jr would beat Groves & DeGale
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Not yet... We'll find out what he's made of when he faces Saunders
Kahn is up against Bradley next too..
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i actually included "within the next 12-18 months" but i have no idea where the text went. Hes too green right now IMO but with more experience, whether Saunders beats him or not, he will be a hell of a talent.
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Not yet... We'll find out what he's made of when he faces Saunders
Kahn is up against Bradley next too..
Khan due to fight Devon Alexander next then either Mayweather or Kell Brook.
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Khan due to fight Devon Alexander next then either Mayweather or Kell Brook.
I get those 2 hebrews mixed up all the time..
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i actually included "within the next 12-18 months" but i have no idea where the text went. Hes too green right now IMO but with more experience, whether Saunders beats him or not, he will be a hell of a talent.
Froch apparently ran through Eubank jr in Sheffield pre-groves 2.
Not wanting him to go home, he let him back into things on subsequent days in front of his old man.
Reckons he has better power than he appears but physically not that strong.
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Froch will run through just about anyone tbh, i wouldnt expect Eubank Jr to do anything to him in sparring or in a fight. DeGale would get murdered by him, Groves was savaged in their last meeting & yet i still think Jr will get by BOTH those guys comfortably in the future.
Froch on his game is a measuring stick not to be used against domestic fighters, hes worlds apart from everyone we have.