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If you actually read and understand American History that is.
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If you actually read and understand American History that is.
ill humor you, what's your rationale?
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If you actually read and understand American History that is.
Still, they were much cooler, had funky names such as (Dances-with-Wolves, Sitting-Bull, Composing-The-5th etc) and cool hairdos with feathers.
And don't forget that raindance!
Native Americans/Injuns > Isis.
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ill humor you, what's your rationale?
Actively seeking to kill women and children by the hundreds, settlement to settlement for no reason, raping women and children, burning settlements to the ground.
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Still, they were much cooler, had funky names such as (Dances-with-Wolves, Sitting-Bull, Composing-The-5th etc) and cool hairdos with feathers.
And don't forget that raindance!
Native Americans/Injuns > Isis.
The many tribes certainly were not a peaceful people. Especially the Comanche.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2396760/How-Comanche-Indians-butchered-babies-roasted-enemies-alive.html
The truth Johnny Depp wants to hide about the real-life Tontos: How Comanche Indians butchered babies, roasted enemies alive and would ride 1,000 miles to wipe out one family
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Magua in Last of the Mohicans is one of my favorite villians. Great bad guy.
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The "Peaceful" Indian myth is relatively new and its amazing how widespread and accepted it has become. Absolutely brutal people. The only tribes with any sense (if you could call it that) were the ones being led by 1/4 and 1/8, 1/16 and 1/32 Indians such as William Weatherford of The Creeks (Muscogee) who was only 1/8th Indian and was bested by the great Andrew Jackson in the Creek War.
Many other tribes were led by Multi-racial chiefs some with 1/16 to 1/32 heritage. Another being Alexander McGillivray, who created an alliance between the Creek and the British during the American Revolution and was commissioned as a British Colonel and later commissioned as a Brigadier General for the United States after the war which allowed him to amass three plantations and 60 slaves.
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Good Song.
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They're certainly worse drunks than ISIS.
LOL
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Don't get me started on those seal clubbing wife swapping eskimos. Oh x-cuse me! "Inuit"
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Agreed.
Much worse than the Nazis too.
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If you actually read and understand American History that is.
That can't be true. I've been told all my life that Native Americans were morally superior, not greedy and evil like the white devils. All they wanted to do was just live off of the land in peace and harmony. ;D
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Troll score: 9/10
Solid fucking effort!
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Troll score: 9/10
Solid fucking effort!
Do I have to teach you American History yet again?
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TEN of the ISIS fighters were captured, according to Rep Hunter (R), Coach, and FOX News.
A major victory for america, to be sure.
Looks like a few of Obama's boys have been caught...
WASHINGTON (CBS DC) – Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., says that at least ten fighters for the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria have been apprehended while attempting to enter the southern U.S. border.
The California Republican claims that “at least ten ISIS fighters have been caught coming across the Mexican border in Texas,” in a conversation with Fox News on Tuesday. Hunter says that the Islamic terrorists are slipping into the U.S. through the porous southern border as several have already been captured.
“There’s nobody talking about it,” Rep. Hunter told Fox. “If you really want to protect Americans from ISIS, you secure the southern border. It’s that simple…They caught them at the border, therefore we know that ISIS is coming across the border. If they catch five or ten of them then you know there’s going to be dozens more that did not get caught by the border patrol.”
In August, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Martin Dempsey, warned that the open border posed an “immediate threat” for terrorist activity infiltrating the country. The government watchdog group, Judicial Watch, said ISIS terrorists were “planning to attack the United States with car bombs or other vehicle born [sic] improvised explosive devices.”
Hunter, a member of the House Armed Services Committee, said that 1,933-mile southern border with Mexico is the obvious entry point for Islamic State terrorists. He says that information regarding the capture of Islamic State terrorists crossing the border comes directly from U.S. Customs and Border Protection.
“ISIS doesn’t have a navy, they don’t have an air force, they don’t have nuclear weapons. The only way that ISIS is going to harm Americans is by coming through the southern border – which they already have,” he added.
“They aren’t flying B-1 bombers, bombing American cities,” said Hunter. “But they are going to be bombing American cities coming across from Mexico…All you have to do is ask the border patrol.”
The Department of Homeland Security released a statement on Wednesday that claims alleging Islamic State militants have been apprehended at the Mexican border are “categorically false.”
“The suggestion that individuals who have ties to ISIL have been apprehended at the Southwest border is categorically false, and not supported by any credible intelligence or the facts on the ground,” a DHS spokesman said in a statement today. “DHS continues to have no credible intelligence to suggest terrorist organizations are actively plotting to cross the southwest border.”
After Hunter’s comments to Fox, one of his sources nuanced their claims, saying that some of those apprehended at the border might be ISIS-affiliated or possibly Americans who fought with the Syrian Free Army – one of my ISIS enemies.
In a statement to ABC News, a spokesperson for Hunter said he was not backing down on the claims.
“The Congressman was conveying what he knows — and what he was told,” the spokesperson told ABC. “It makes sense that the left hand of DHS doesn’t know what the right hand is doing — it’s been that way for a long time and we don’t expect that to change.”
– Benjamin Fearnow
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/10/08/gop-rep-at-least-ten-isis-fighters-have-been-caught-coming-across-the-mexican-border/
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What if you had an ISIS injun?
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What an ignorant post by a fool who actually thinks he is smart. The worst kind of person. Good troll job though you got me to reply.
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What an ignorant post by a fool who actually thinks he is smart. The worst kind of person. Good troll job though you got me to reply.
You may not get along with him, but you have to admit he is right in this instance. How, for the life of me, history usually being written by the winners, this one managed to slip through.
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TA is right about most things. You will have a better posting experience once you come to accept this.
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You may not get along with him, but you have to admit he is right in this instance. How, for the life of me, history usually being written by the winners, this one managed to slip through.
Political correctness is a bitch.
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Indian are a black mixtures
Whites are mainly4 peace
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We had a guy at work who was part of the Choctaw nation , I nicknamed him chief sits-on-ass and I was reprimanded because they claimed it was racist
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Political correctness is a bitch.
I do find it fascinating how revisionist history of Native Americans has supplanted their true history and how them saw themselves. They are doing their people a disservice by denying their brutality which is what they specialized in. The peaceful Indian meme is certainly not the way they would have characterized themselves.
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I do find it fascinating how revisionist history of Native Americans has supplanted their true history and how them saw themselves. They are doing their people a disservice by denying their brutality which is what they specialized in. The peaceful Indian meme is certainly not the way they would have characterized themselves.
There were some friendly natives... Those in the NE and the mid-atlantic states.
Beyond those areas, they got extremely angry extremely quickly.
It is the cycle of humanity I suppose...
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I'm sure native Americans felt that those who 'colonised' their lands were the equivalent of ISIS themselves.
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Stupid.
My people took their homes and gave them disease ridden blankets.
Someone choke this fat fucking retard.
I'll paypal you 12 Euros.
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I'm sure native Americans felt that those who 'colonised' their lands were the equivalent of ISIS themselves.
The leaders of many Tribes, such as factions of the Creeks, Iroquois wanted colonization. George Washington had many Indian brigades fighting with him and they wanted modernization. George Washington was given the honor by the Seneca religious leader Handsome Lake which declared that Washington was the only white man allowed to enter the Indians' heaven.
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Stupid.
My people took their homes and gave them disease ridden blankets.
Someone choke this fat fucking retard.
I'll paypal you 12 Euros.
You do realize that the diseased blankets are a complete fabricated myth. Americans never gave smallpox blankets to any Indians anywhere at anytime. Not the government, not the Army, not anyone.
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Furthermore, it would be scientifically impossible to give anyone a "diseased" Small-Pox blanket. Small Pox germs die in about a minute out of the human body. It would be impossible for germs to be transported in blankets.
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You do realize that the diseased blankets are a complete fabricated myth. Americans never gave smallpox blankets to any Indians anywhere at anytime. Not the government, not the Army, not anyone.
I do not realize that you lying piece of shit.
Go fuck yourself you fag with nobody to fuck.
"On June 29, 1763, a week after the siege began, Bouquet was preparing to lead an expedition to relieve Fort Pitt when he received a letter from Amherst making the following proposal: "Could it not be contrived to Send the Small Pox among those Disaffected Tribes of Indians? We must, on this occasion, Use Every Stratagem in our power to Reduce them."[1]
Bouquet agreed, writing back to Amherst on July 13, 1763: "I will try to inocculate the Indians by means of Blankets that may fall in their hands, taking care however not to get the disease myself."[2] Amherst responded favorably on July 16, 1763: "You will Do well to try to Innoculate the Indians by means of Blanketts, as well as to try Every other method that can serve to Extirpate this Execreble Race."[3]
As it turned out, however, officers at the besieged Fort Pitt had already exposed the Indians in just the manner Amherst and Bouquet were discussing. During a parley at Fort Pitt on June 24, 1763, Captain Simeon Ecuyer gave representatives of the besieging Delawares two blankets and a handkerchief from the smallpox ward "out of regard to them" after the Delawares pledged to renew their friendship.[4] While the exact meaning of his phrase was unclear, a later invoice appears to clearly establish the purpose was transmittal of smallpox.[5]
Indians in the area did indeed contract smallpox. Some historians have noted that it is impossible to verify how many people (if any) contracted the disease as a result of the Fort Pitt incident; the disease was already in the area and had reached the Indians through other vectors. Indeed, even before the blankets had been handed over, the disease may have been spread to the Indians by native warriors returning from attacks on infected white settlements. The smallpox epidemic that had occurred during Pontiac's War spread to areas/groups such as the Lenni Lenape (Delaware) and Shawnee villages, killing as many as 400,000-500,000 Native Americans during and years after Pontiac's Rebellion."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Fort_Pitt
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Still, they were much cooler, had funky names such as (Dances-with-Wolves, Sitting-Bull, Composing-The-5th etc) and cool hairdos with feathers.
And don't forget that raindance!
Native Americans/Injuns > Isis.
If Derek Anthony (RIP) was an Indian his name would be Dances-with-Schmoes
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I do not realize that you lying piece of shit.
Go fuck yourself you fag with nobody to fuck.
"On June 29, 1763, a week after the siege began, Bouquet was preparing to lead an expedition to relieve Fort Pitt when he received a letter from Amherst making the following proposal: "Could it not be contrived to Send the Small Pox among those Disaffected Tribes of Indians? We must, on this occasion, Use Every Stratagem in our power to Reduce them."[1]
Bouquet agreed, writing back to Amherst on July 13, 1763: "I will try to inocculate the Indians by means of Blankets that may fall in their hands, taking care however not to get the disease myself."[2] Amherst responded favorably on July 16, 1763: "You will Do well to try to Innoculate the Indians by means of Blanketts, as well as to try Every other method that can serve to Extirpate this Execreble Race."[3]
As it turned out, however, officers at the besieged Fort Pitt had already exposed the Indians in just the manner Amherst and Bouquet were discussing. During a parley at Fort Pitt on June 24, 1763, Captain Simeon Ecuyer gave representatives of the besieging Delawares two blankets and a handkerchief from the smallpox ward "out of regard to them" after the Delawares pledged to renew their friendship.[4] While the exact meaning of his phrase was unclear, a later invoice appears to clearly establish the purpose was transmittal of smallpox.[5]
Indians in the area did indeed contract smallpox. Some historians have noted that it is impossible to verify how many people (if any) contracted the disease as a result of the Fort Pitt incident; the disease was already in the area and had reached the Indians through other vectors. Indeed, even before the blankets had been handed over, the disease may have been spread to the Indians by native warriors returning from attacks on infected white settlements. The smallpox epidemic that had occurred during Pontiac's War spread to areas/groups such as the Lenni Lenape (Delaware) and Shawnee villages, killing as many as 400,000-500,000 Native Americans during and years after Pontiac's Rebellion."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Fort_Pitt
1. Those were not Americans, but British.
2. You didn`t even bother to read your own link so I will bold it. Again, the blankets would not have worked anyways. Scientifically impossible.
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Furthermore, it would be scientifically impossible to give anyone a "diseased" Small-Pox blanket. Small Pox germs die in about a minute out of the human body. It would be impossible for germs to be transported in blankets.
You are an idiot, not a Doctor.
Stop with the bullshit.
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I do not realize that you lying piece of shit.
Go fuck yourself you fag with nobody to fuck.
"On June 29, 1763, a week after the siege began, Bouquet was preparing to lead an expedition to relieve Fort Pitt when he received a letter from Amherst making the following proposal: "Could it not be contrived to Send the Small Pox among those Disaffected Tribes of Indians? We must, on this occasion, Use Every Stratagem in our power to Reduce them."[1]
Bouquet agreed, writing back to Amherst on July 13, 1763: "I will try to inocculate the Indians by means of Blankets that may fall in their hands, taking care however not to get the disease myself."[2] Amherst responded favorably on July 16, 1763: "You will Do well to try to Innoculate the Indians by means of Blanketts, as well as to try Every other method that can serve to Extirpate this Execreble Race."[3]
As it turned out, however, officers at the besieged Fort Pitt had already exposed the Indians in just the manner Amherst and Bouquet were discussing. During a parley at Fort Pitt on June 24, 1763, Captain Simeon Ecuyer gave representatives of the besieging Delawares two blankets and a handkerchief from the smallpox ward "out of regard to them" after the Delawares pledged to renew their friendship.[4] While the exact meaning of his phrase was unclear, a later invoice appears to clearly establish the purpose was transmittal of smallpox.[5]
Indians in the area did indeed contract smallpox. Some historians have noted that it is impossible to verify how many people (if any) contracted the disease as a result of the Fort Pitt incident; the disease was already in the area and had reached the Indians through other vectors. Indeed, even before the blankets had been handed over, the disease may have been spread to the Indians by native warriors returning from attacks on infected white settlements. The smallpox epidemic that had occurred during Pontiac's War spread to areas/groups such as the Lenni Lenape (Delaware) and Shawnee villages, killing as many as 400,000-500,000 Native Americans during and years after Pontiac's Rebellion."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Fort_Pitt
http://quod.lib.umich.edu/p/plag/5240451.0001.009/--did-the-us-army-distribute-smallpox-blankets-to-indians?rgn=main;view=fulltext
Every aspect of Churchill's tale is fabricated. In telling his fantastic tale, Churchill has fabricated incidents that never occurred and individuals who never existed. Churchill falsified the sources that he cited in support of his tale, and repeatedly concealed evidence in his possession that disconfirms his version of events.
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theres another savage tribe responsible for the genocide of amalekites, i forget their name
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You are an idiot, not a Doctor.
Stop with the bullshit.
Why didn`t you post the rest of the Wiki Link? ??? ??? ???
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Fort_Pitt
Biological Warfare was Ineffective
While no existing evidence supports that this attempt,[4][5] was successful, a preponderance of documented evidence suggests that the smallpox among some natives preceded the exchange, was contracted from a different source, and the attempt to "inoculate" the recipients, Turtle's Heart and Mamaltee,[6] was unsuccessful.
Turtleheart and Mamaltee did not get Smallpox
On his own initiative and according to sundries trader and militia Captain, William Trent, on June 24, 1763, Captain Ecuyer, gave two blankets, one silk handkerchief and one linen from the smallpox hospital,[7] to two Delaware delegates, Turtleheart, a principal warrior, and Maumaultee, a Chief.[8]
Smallpox (variola major) has an incubation period of about two weeks before eruptions appear on the skin. On July 26, 1763, a full month later, an Indian delegation, Turtleheart and Maumaultee among them, came back to the Fort, under a flag of truce, to parley.[9]
Turtleheart And Killbuck would later represent the Delaware Nation at the Treaty of Fort Stanwix in 1768[10]
Smallpox Preceded the Exchange of 24 June 1763
Thomas Hutchins Map of Henry Bouquet's 1764 Expedition
Thomas Hutchins, in his August 1762 Journal entry among the Natives at Fort "Mineamie", reports: "The 20th, The above Indians met, and the Ouiatanon Chief spoke in behalf of his and the Kickaupoo Nations as follows: '"Brother, We are very thankful to Sir William Johnson for sending you to enquire into the State of the Indians. We assure you we are Rendered very miserable at Present on Account of a Severe Sickness that has seiz'd almost all our People, many of which have died lately, and many more likely to Die."
Later, Hutchins writes "The 30th, Set out for the Lower Shawneese Town' and arriv'd 8th of September in the afternoon. I could not have a meeting with the Shawneese untill the 12th, as their People were Sick and Dying every day."[11]
Gershom Hicks, taken captive in May 1763 by the Shawnee and Delaware people reported that the epidemic was well underway, among the natives, since spring of 1763. Hicks escaped and arrived to Fort Pitt on April 14, 1764 and reported to the 42nd Regiment Captain, William Grant, "that the Small pox has been very general & raging amongst the Indians since last spring and that 30 or 40 Mingoes, as many Delawares and some Shawneese Died all of the Small pox since that time, that it still continues amongst them."[12]
Smallpox from a Different Source
John McCullough, was a Delaware captive, since July, 1756, who was then 15 years old, wrote that "Soon after we got home to Mahoning, instead of taking me to Pittsburgh, agreeable to their promise, they set out on their Fall hunt, taking me along with them; we staid out till some time in the Winter before we returned" He continues that, on June 2, 1763,[13][14] "Shortly after the commencement of the war, they plundered a tanyard near to Pittsburgh, and carried away several horse-loads of leather;",[15][16] and recalled that, beginning on July 5th, 1763,[17] the Lenape people, under the leadership of Shamokin Daniel, "committed several depredations along the Juniata; it happened to be at a time when the smallpox was in the settlement where they were murdering, the consequence was, a number of them got infected, and some died before they got home, others shortly after; those who took it after their return, were immediately moved out of the town, and put under the care of one who had the disease before."[18][19]
No Remarkable Connection
With the vast wealth of contemporary eyewitness accounts from the French, British and Native Camps, none make mention of an outbreak in the July, 1763 (two weeks after the exchange) except John McCullough - who claimed, verifiably so, that the Delaware contracted it in the Juniata River Valley.[20][21]
Mary Jemison, a Seneca captive, was captured in 1755, in what is now Adams County, Pennsylvania, from her home along Marsh Creek. She married to a Delaware, and later chose to remain with the Seneca over liberation. In James E. Seaver's (Jemison's biographer)interview, she describes her many hardships including travels to Fort Pitt. In her 7th year of captivity, (1762) she reports the death of her first husband from "sickness" - but makes no mention of smallpox among her adoptive people.[22]
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You are an idiot, not a Doctor.
Stop with the bullshit.
ROFLMAO
Seriously, why did not not post the information that was contained in your link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Fort_Pitt
I went ahead and did it for you (see above) and it does not help your case at all.
You owe me an apology.
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Hahahaha you fucking moron. You don't even read the bullshit you copy and paste. Please give me your address I'd LOVE to come and give you a nice punch to the head you fucking idiot.
anyone who looks like this shouldn't be threatening anyone lol. if anything pickle tits you should keep your mouth shut and go bake us a cake, nancy.
just what the fuck exactly are you doing in this pic? keep up the good work, chubs.
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anyone who looks like this shouldn't be threatening anyone lol. if anything pickle tits you should keep your mouth shut and go bake us a cake, nancy.
ps. what the fuck exactly are you doing in this pic? keep up the good work, chubs.
I have to side with Frozzor here. THE ARS goofed big time. At least he learned what he thought was true, was a perpetual myth of impossibility. He can get mad at me all he wants, but it won`t change history. :D
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I have to side with Frozzor here. THE ARS goofed big time. At least he learned what he thought was true, was a perpetual myth of impossibility. He can get mad at me all he wants, but it won`t change history. :D
im just pointing out the lunacy behind this fat dork running around saying he's going to punch people in the head. he should be more concerned abt moving out of his parents trailer and away from that horrible panelling.
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Obviously, the decimation of native population by European germs represents an enormous tragedy, but in no sense does it represent a crime. Stories of deliberate infection by passing along "small-pox blankets" are based exclusively on two letters from British soldiers in 1763, at the end of the bitter and bloody French and Indian War. By that time, Indian populations (including those in the area) had already been terribly impacted by smallpox, and there's no evidence of a particularly devastating outbreak as a result of British policy.
For the most part, Indians were infected by devastating diseases even before they made direct contact with Europeans: other Indians who had already been exposed to the germs, carried them with them to virtually every corner of North America and many British explorers and settlers found empty, abandoned villages (as did the Pilgrims) and greatly reduced populations when they first arrived.
http://townhall.com/columnists/michaelmedved/2007/09/19/reject_the_lie_of_white_genocide_against_native_americans/page/full (http://townhall.com/columnists/michaelmedved/2007/09/19/reject_the_lie_of_white_genocide_against_native_americans/page/full)
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You're a fukin creepy old man. How do even have that picture? That's literally about 5 years old when I was 21 at 195 leaning out.
You on the other hand have a history of massive drug abuse yet you look like a stringy old man who could literally fit two of your bodies through a door frame. One of the few people you can actually say 'narrower than Heath'.
That's really creepy how you have picture saved to your computer...
actually that embarrassment you call a 'physique' and several rather unflattering pics of it are on the training logs board. first page. don't flatter yourself into thinking I was 'out to get you' fatbody. lol
haha leaning out- you think there was some kind of MONSTER buried under all that lard that you were going discover? lol holy fuck. who's kidding who dork- 5 years ago/ today nothing has changed, chubbo.
ps nice place.
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If you actually read and understand American History that is.
Horse shit - were invaded and defended their land as any man would. Guerrilla tactics is what you are trying to explain
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im just pointing out the lunacy behind this fat dork running around saying he's going to punch people in the head. he should be more concerned abt moving out of his parents trailer and away from that horrible panelling.
You never know... Fedor emelyanenko was/is even chubbier... Not sure what's your point.
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The Last of the Mohicans theme song is the tits
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Horse shit - were invaded and defended their land as any man would. Guerrilla tactics is what you are trying to explain
Defended against what? The Indians nearly destroyed the entire first few settlements, massacring all of the colonists for no reason at all.
So any normal man would decide its a good idea to murder babies, rape women, disfigure children, skin them alive and leave them to starve to death with their intestines half exposed? Any normal man would burn structures with people in them without any provocation? A normal person would engage in those things right?
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The "Peaceful" Indian myth is relatively new and its amazing how widespread and accepted it has become. Absolutely brutal people. The only tribes with any sense (if you could call it that) were the ones being led by 1/4 and 1/8, 1/16 and 1/32 Indians such as William Weatherford of The Creeks (Muscogee) who was only 1/8th Indian and was bested by the great Andrew Jackson in the Creek War.
Many other tribes were led by Multi-racial chiefs some with 1/16 to 1/32 heritage. Another being Alexander McGillivray, who created an alliance between the Creek and the British during the American Revolution and was commissioned as a British Colonel and later commissioned as a Brigadier General for the United States after the war which allowed him to amass three plantations and 60 slaves.
I am part Native American - grandfather was 50% (Cherokee) and I knew my muh (full blooded great grandmother) for much of my youth. She was both a proper lady and savage. She spoke her native language - English - Spanish - French and Latin... She taught me the secret of not being able to fail other than temporarily because the universe is one with us. That the same energy/matter here now was here when my ancestors were gods.
Anyway - anyone can be perfect - and many Indians were. FYI - I don't know anyone that gives a flying shit about the Redskins name. That's a weak thing to be concerned with.
Got off topic and ranted a little - but I never come back to a post so it doesn't matter. Lol. Enjoy
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Horse shit - were invaded and defended their land as any man would. Guerrilla tactics is what you are trying to explain
ISIS tried to make the same argument that the Christians invaded their "Islamic State" and thus decided to torture and behead the children and drive them up Sinjar Mountain.
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I am part Native American - grandfather was 50% (Cherokee) and I knew my muh (full blooded great grandmother) for much of my youth. She was both a proper lady and savage. She spoke her native language - English - Spanish - French and Latin... She taught me the secret of not being able to fail other than temporarily because the universe is one with us. That the same energy/matter here now was here when my ancestors were gods.
Anyway - anyone can be perfect - and many Indians were. FYI - I don't know anyone that gives a flying shit about the Redskins name. That's a weak thing to be concerned with.
Got off topic and ranted a little - but I never come back to a post so it doesn't matter. Lol. Enjoy
Take it easy on the firewater, kemosabe.
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Thanks for pointing that out. For the longest time I was looking for old pics that I thought were long gone. I always felt bad I let TA down and didn't follow through all the way with his principles. What he said did work though, I can vouch for that.
You on the other hand, you're old, small, and you're far from natural. lol to that. What's your excuse? You're that small despite going as far as to using GH, how in the hell would you look as a natty? 170lbs soaking wet and that's being generous.
here's the thing dork, do you mind if I call you that? I certainly wouldn't want a behemoth like you showing up at my door- I'm not natty. far from. im 240lbs of lean tissue and stud. two things you'll never be. ever.
the fact is, dork, I'm the guy your gf thinks about when all 160lbs of your pickle tits and belly pump furitively away at her like a rutting dog.
natty. lol Jesus who gives a fuck, nancy. I'm a god. you're fat and live in a trailer. and have a big tough guy mouth with nothing to back it up.
btw solid wood panelling if I forgot to mention it before.
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This thread is getting way too acrimonious for a Friday night.
(http://community.sephora.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/93635i0E1C37A966010819/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&px=-1)
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Adam I see you watch hell on wheels... Love that show!!
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This thread is getting way too acrimonious for a Friday night.
(http://community.sephora.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/93635i0E1C37A966010819/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&px=-1)
That must've been when Dawson found out that Pacey was banging Joey. Jesus Christ, I really shouldn't know the characters' names like that. Outted
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Hahahaha you fucking moron. You don't even read the bullshit you copy and paste. Please give me your address I'd LOVE to come and give you a nice punch to the head you fucking idiot.
hey THE ARS better be careful dude. you don't want to piss this guy off.
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Adam I see you watch hell on wheels... Love that show!!
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hhaha yes! Best show ever!
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Adam hating on the red Hebrews. Surprise.
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Adam hating on the red Hebrews. Surprise.
Where is the hate? I am just stating fact.
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Actively seeking to kill women and children by the hundreds, settlement to settlement for no reason, raping women and children, burning settlements to the ground.
As documented by the Europeans who exterminated them ;)
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P.s. If terrorism is killing civilians for political gain then the US is still the daddy.
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As documented by the Europeans who exterminated them ;)
Its all a cover up right? ::)
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P.s. If terrorism is killing civilians for political gain then the US is still the daddy.
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Where is your evidence that the United States actively took measures to systematically kill innocent civilians for political gain? Furthermore, political gain from who and for what and where?
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Hiroshima, plus there's one other one, maybe you can help me with the name?...
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Its all a cover up right? ::)
Well only one side of the story lived to tell the tale. That's all I know. You would make a poor judge.
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Well only one side of the story lived to tell the tale. That's all I know. You would make a poor judge.
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There are still members of nearly all the tribes surviving today.
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Hiroshima, plus there's one other one, maybe you can help me with the name?...
Oh. You are one of those that think the Atomic bombs were a mistake. So you think the Japanese were just going to eventually give up?
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You are also wrongly assuming that the two Atomic Bombs were solely meant to kill civilians, which they certainly weren`t.
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Oh. You are one of those that think the Atomic bombs were a mistake. So you think the Japanese were just going to eventually give up?
If terrorism is killing civilians for political gain then the US is still the daddy. This is what I said. You have shifted the question as you cannot comprehend the original statement.
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There are still members of nearly all the tribes surviving today.
Fair point, I guess this 1 or 2 percent is probably fairly represented in your source material. Safe assumption.
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Fair point, I guess this 1 or 2 percent is probably fairly represented in your source material. Safe assumption.
The 1 or 2 percent have been falsely represented in the last 50 or so years. The Peace loving people is simply not true.
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I know some of the native tribes were literally red devils (the name actually had an origin...) and that their behaviors existed before the Europeans arrived. And continued to be perpetrated against white settlers. John Wayne and John Ford did a good film on the real west, called The Searchers. A good watch (but still very watered down). Still you won't find many westerns today telling it as realistically.
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Hiroshima, plus there's one other one, maybe you can help me with the name?...
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Oh. You are one of those that think the Atomic bombs were a mistake. So you think the Japanese were just going to eventually give up?
Oh it wasn't a mistake. We did it on purpose, with full knowledge of what would happen, to a country that was already beaten back within their borders, as evidenced by the fact that we had been bombing them at will with conventional weapons to such an extent that traditional bombing killed more Japs than the nukes did, and we had leveled the capital city of Tokyo. But we went ahead and dropped the nukes anyway and killed 200,000 just to remind Russia to behave. It's a frontrunner for the dickest move in human history.
Yes, the Japanese had tried to negotiate terms of surrender several times long before the bombs fell, the sole condition being that the Emperor not be humiliated by being harmed or removed from his position as spiritual and legislative head of state. The American insistence on the completely unconditional surrender of Japan was the only thing that prolonged the war. A demand for unconditional surrender was as ungentlemanly in WW2 as it was in your beloved 'War Between The States,' during which it was regarded as evidence of poor character in a victorious commanding officer.
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I think TA is on to something. All we need to do is carpet bomb the middle East with ebola laced prayer rugs and these godless savages will be alcoholic casino workers in no time at all.
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The U.S. goaded the Japanese into attacking Pearl Harbor. WWII was an unnecessary war. But your people benefited from it so that's all that matters.
the allies needed the US to intervene. hitler was rolling thru europe and the ussr as well. he would have easily claimed all of britian as we know it in time. the problem was that the US population for the most part was isolationist. it wasnt affecting them, so there was no need to go poking their nose where it didnt belong. in fact roosevelt prolly would have been impeached had he tried to enter the war effort without provocation. then along come the japanese.
the US knew the japanese were going to bomb pearl harbour. that was their in at home to the war. a dutch sub saw and plotted the course the zeros were on and discovered they we headed right for the pearl island. eventually the danish contacted the british who contacted the americans. the sub was told to stay out to sea and it would be resupplised. the supply ship scuttled the sub so it could not return to port and leak what they had seen.
one of the biggest coverups in US history.
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the allies needed the US to intervene. hitler was rolling thru europe and the ussr as well. he would have easily claimed all of britian as we know it in time. the problem was that the US population for the most part was isolationist. it wasnt affecting them, so there was no need to go poking their nose where it didnt belong. in fact roosevelt prolly would have been impeached had he tried to enter the war effort without provocation. then along come the japanese.
the US knew the japanese were going to bomb pearl harbour. that was their in at home to the war. a dutch sub saw and plotted the course the zeros were on and discovered they we headed right for the pearl island. eventually the danish contacted the british who contacted the americans. the sub was told to stay out to sea and it would be resupplised. the supply ship scuttled the sub so it could not return to port and leak what they had seen.
one of the biggest coverups in US history.
This, although I wouldn`t call it a coverup in a sense. Arthur McCollum and the Hull memo. With around 90 percent of the country not wanting a war, FDR purposely provoked the Japanese and knew through McCollum and other agents that the strike would occur where it did. A memo was sent a year ago before Pearl Harbor by the Japanese Ambassador to the Whitehouse stating that the Japanese would attack Pearl Harbor as a Central and main target. Roosevelt kept McCollum pretty close to his side. McCollum was born in Japan in 1898 and studied there after the Naval Academy for three years where his concentration was Culture and Language of the Orient. After serving on nearly every single type of ship and commanding some as well, he was the head of the Far East section of the Office of Naval Intelligence and assistant attatche to the American Embassy in Tokyo.
He was also Fleet Intelligence Officer on the Staff of Commander In Chief, US Fleet. (a direct line to the President).
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/79/McCollum_memo_Page1.png)
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The 1 or 2 percent have been falsely represented in the last 50 or so years. The Peace loving people is simply not true.
So white people came to America to peacefully establish their colonies with free help from their colored African buddies and the Indians were just meanies? Lol come on man. You make some very valid points and I agree with you to an extent but don't act like whites were innocent little cherubs.
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So white people came to America to peacefully establish their colonies with free help from their colored African buddies and the Indians were just meanies? Lol come on man. You make some very valid points and I agree with you to an extent but don't act like whites were innocent little cherubs.
He isn't saying whites were innocent at all. What he is attempting to do is provide a more accurate assessment of historical events. In the history of humans, there are no cultures with clean hands.
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So white people came to America to peacefully establish their colonies with free help from their colored African buddies and the Indians were just meanies? Lol come on man. You make some very valid points and I agree with you to an extent but don't act like whites were innocent little cherubs.
The Indians themselves were trading Africans.
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The Indians themselves were trading Africans.
Africans were trading Africans. Arabs were trading Africans.
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I like this instance:
In 1827 the Cherokee developed a constitution, which was part of their acculturation. It prohibited slaves and their descendants (including mixed-race) from owning property, selling goods or produce to earn money; and marrying Cherokee or European Americans. It imposed heavy fines on slaveholders if their slaves consumed alcohol. No African Americans, even if free and of partial Cherokee heritage, could vote in the tribe. If a mother was of partial African descent, her children could not vote in the tribe, regardless of the father's heritage.
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Africans were trading Africans. Arabs were trading Africans.
Might I also remind that one of the LARGEST Slave owners in the South and in North Carolina was a Free Black man in Carteret County, NC. John Carruthers Stanly
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John Carruthers Stanly
1774-1846
Black Slaveholder
Stanly, born a slave in 1774, was the son of an African Ibo woman and the white prominent merchant-shipper John Wright Stanly. He was apprenticed to Alexander and Lydia Stewart, close friends and neighbors of his father. They saw to it that John received an education and learned the trade of barbering. At an early age, they helped him establish his own barbershop in New Bern. Many of the town’s farmers and planters frequented his barbershop for a shave or a trim. As a result, Stanly developed a successful business. By the time he reached the age of twenty-one, literate and economically able to provide for himself, his owners petitioned the Craven County court in 1795 for his emancipation. However, he was not completely satisfied with the ruling of the court and in 1798, through a special act, the state legislature confirmed the emancipation of John Carruthers Stanly, which entitled him to all rights and privileges of a free person.
Between 1800 and 1801, Stanly purchased his slave wife, Kitty, and two mulatto slave children. By March 1805, they were emancipated by the Craven County Superior Court. A few days later, Kitty and Stanly were legally married in New Bern and posted a legal marriage bond in Raleigh. Stanly’s wife was the daughter of Richard and Mary Green and the paternal granddaughter of Amelia Green. Two years later, in 1807, Stanly was successful in getting the court to emancipate his wife’s brother.
Some politically correct Court Historians end the story here, if they acknowledge the existence of black slaveholders at all. What a noble thing, to purchase and emancipate one's own family! But there is much more to the story.
After securing his own and his family’s freedom, Stanly began to focus more on business matters. He obtained other slaves to work for him. Two of them, Boston and Brister, were taught the barbering trade. Once they became skillful barbers, Stanly let them run the operation while he used the money they helped him earn to invest in additional town property, farmland, and more slaves.
Through his business acumen, Stanley eventually became a very wealthy plantation owner and the largest slaveholder in all of Craven County. He profited from investments in real estate, rental properties, the slave operated barbershop, and plantations from which he sold commodities such as cotton and turpentine.
Stanly’s plantations and rental properties were operated by skilled slaves along with help from some hired free blacks. To improve his rental properties in New Bern, he used skilled slaves and free blacks to build cabins and other residences and to repair and renovate these properties. During the depression of the early 1820s it was slave labor that kept Stanly economically stable.
The 1830 census reveals that Stanly owned, 163 slaves. He has been described as a harsh, profit-minded task master whose treatment of his slaves was no different than the treatment slaves received from white owners. Stanly’s goal, shared by white southern planters, was on expanding his operations and increasing his profits.
During the early 1820s, Stanly’s wife, Kitty, was taken seriously ill. She became bedridden and, despite careful attention by two slave nurses, she died around 1824. It was at this same time that Stanly began to face a series of financial difficulties. His fortune began to plummet when the Bank of New Bern, due to the national bank tightening controls of some state and local banks, was forced to collect all outstanding debts. Unfortunately, Stanly had countersigned a security note for John Stanly, his white half-brother, in the amount of $14,962. Stanly was forced to assume the debt. This, along with his own debts forced him to refinance his mortgages and sell large pieces of property, including slaves. When these options did not resolve his economic woes, he resorted to mortgaging his turpentine, cotton, and corn crops, as well as selling his barbershop, which had been operating continuously for forty years. Without a steady flow of income, his fortunes continued to decline. In 1843, his last 160 acres of land were sold at public auction. Three years later, at the age of 74, John Carruthers Stanly died. At the time of his death he still owned seven slaves.
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We had one President of the United States who was in the same class of slaves and treated as such. Andrew Johnson. He was bonded to a man called James Selby in Raleigh, NC who made Andrew Johnson become a tailor. He was legally bound to Mr. Selby until Andrew turned 21. Andrew Johnson ran away and J. Selby sent out a "Slave Bill" with a reward for anyone who would return Andrew Johnson. Johnson eventually came back and tried to buy his way out of bondage but was unable to do so. He was forced to move West.
Andrew Johnson`s boyhood home is located on a Jewish Plantation in Raleigh, Mordecai Plantation Manor.
Here is the Jewish Plantation.
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And here is Andrew Johnson`s boyhood home on the Plantation.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ad/Andrew_Johnsons_First_Home_2006.jpg)
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I simply said whites weren't innocent why are you telling me stuff I already know? Moreover does the fact that there were black slave owners and what not (however few there were) somehow minimizes the impact of the trans Atlantic slave trade at large? It is a false equivalency which does not really detract from the original point. Alas these kinds of discussions never go anywhere on the internet since most people's minds are already made up.
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I simply said whites weren't innocent why are you telling me stuff I already know? Moreover does the fact that there were black slave owners and what not (however few there were) somehow minimizes the impact of the trans Atlantic slave trade at large? It is a false equivalency which does not really detract from the original point. Alas these kinds of discussions never go anywhere on the internet since most people's minds are already made up.
Africans started the slave trade. Blame them.
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I simply said whites weren't innocent why are you telling me stuff I already know? Moreover does the fact that there were black slave owners and what not (however few there were) somehow minimizes the impact of the trans Atlantic slave trade at large? It is a false equivalency which does not really detract from the original point. Alas these kinds of discussions never go anywhere on the internet since most people's minds are already made up.
They never do go anywhere. You're going to continue blaming white people for everything and pretending American slavery was the worst thing to every happen to anyone in the history of the world. Look how defensive you've become at the mere mention of any group other than whites causing human suffering.
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Slavery is still practiced by Africans. Seems like they enjoy it.
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They never do go anywhere. You're going to continue blaming white people for everything and pretending American slavery was the worst thing to every happen to anyone in the history of the world. Look how defensive you've become at the mere mention of any group other than whites causing human suffering.
Do you see me blaming white people anywhere in my post? Or pretending American slavery was the worst anything? I stated a fact and you are attaching all this extra shit to it because that's what you assume every minority thinks. Stop pulling regurgitated talking points out of your ass and ascribing them to any minority that says something you don't agree with, immature kids do that. If anything you are the one who has to quit whining about white people becoming the victims now and turning everything into a "whites are the new minority"™ whine fest.
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Do you see me blaming white people anywhere in my post? Or pretending American slavery was the worst anything? I stated a fact and you are attaching all this extra shit to it because that's what you assume every minority thinks. Stop pulling regurgitated talking points out of your ass and ascribing them to any minority that says something you don't agree with, immature kids do that. If anything you are the one who has to quit whining about white people becoming the victims now and turning everything into a "whites are the new minority"™ whine fest.
You reacted to this thread by attempting to reassert the popular narrative of the evil white racist. You completely misinterpreted what TA was saying and brought the topic back to white people. You couldn't for one minute bear the idea that whites and whites alone weren't the ultimate villains. This is the same attitude you've demonstrated in the majority of your posts. I'm assuming you go to a HBCU.
And lets talk about whining. You read the thread and your contribution was to begin to whine like a baby and say, "but but white people aren't innocent". TA wasn't even saying that.
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Speaking of slavery, I've always found Louis Farrakhan's comments on the issue to be thought provoking:
"How did I get to be an anti-Semite...What have I done? I told the truth about Jewish involvement in the slave trade. Your own writers say the same thing. Well, if they're not anti-Semitic for writing it, how the hell am I anti-Semitic for reading what they wrote and then saying it?...I didn't write your history, you wrote it. And then the sad thing, when you confront them with what their scholars have said, they say, 'Well is this part of the old conspiracy talk?'"
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