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Title: How to develop striking power
Post by: Darren Avey on October 20, 2014, 10:14:44 AM
How do some people hit so fucking hard? George Foreman with his punches, Igor with his kicks? What treaining can improve it? Deads?
Title: Re: How to develop striking power
Post by: Waller on October 20, 2014, 10:18:42 AM
Bone density! Start hitting some oak  :D
Title: Re: How to develop striking power
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 20, 2014, 10:21:35 AM
How do some people hit so fucking hard? George Foreman with his punches, Igor with his kicks? What treaining can improve it? Deads?

Practice throwing punches regularly and continually work on your technique.
Title: Re: How to develop striking power
Post by: _aj_ on October 20, 2014, 10:31:31 AM
Punch sand.

http://www.karatebreaking.com/chinesemethod.html
Title: Re: How to develop striking power
Post by: Alucard on October 20, 2014, 10:33:04 AM
How do some people hit so fucking hard? George Foreman with his punches, Igor with his kicks? What treaining can improve it? Deads?
I think that you can improve with hard training and commitment over a long period with specific exercises/training, but it's mostly genetic... George Foreman is freakiest genetic marvel in the history of heavyweight boxing, if not in boxing overall, and for sure one of in history of sports...
Title: Re: How to develop striking power
Post by: calfzilla on October 20, 2014, 10:35:58 AM
It's all in the hips.
Title: Re: How to develop striking power
Post by: Fortress on October 20, 2014, 10:40:29 AM
One must know and master his own chi and harness it into his fists for optimal destructive face-breaker punches.
Title: Re: How to develop striking power
Post by: 240 is Back on October 20, 2014, 10:44:02 AM
How do some people hit so fucking hard? George Foreman with his punches, Igor with his kicks? What treaining can improve it? Deads?

George Foreman took his BCAAs, whey isolate powder, and EFAs religiously. 
Title: Re: How to develop striking power
Post by: Waller on October 20, 2014, 10:45:49 AM
George Foreman took his BCAAs, whey isolate powder, and EFAs religiously. 

Don't forget said his prayers.
Title: Re: How to develop striking power
Post by: MikMaq on October 20, 2014, 10:50:43 AM
The biggest trick is knowing how to coordinate as much of your body as possible.

You want every muscle group in your body aiding in the final impulse before you make contact.

Your peak force happens in different time frames depending on the body part.

You need to know which muscle parts start when.

It's like trying to get multiple people to hit the same point at the exact same time, while having very different arm and leg lengths, reaction times and body weights.

Your muscles produce force on a curve, you need multiple curves of different length peaking at the same point in time and space.



But anyways genetics gives an amazing advantage in this.

I could be wrong, but you  got this thing called motor neurons or some shit in your arms.

Anyways they are like on switches for your muscles, kinda like taste buds. The more motor neurons per muscle the more degrees of usage you have(better coordination)


Anyhow the ratio of motor neurons can in the end define how well your bicep tricep, forearm, abs, delts, etc can work together.
Title: Re: How to develop striking power
Post by: spiro on October 20, 2014, 10:58:08 AM
Genetic, guy on my football team in college weighed like 180 but he hit the hardest by far. He just naturally had the ability to use his whole body to deliver a shot. He almost killed a player on the other team he got his helmet under the kids chin. They had to cart the poor kid off the field. His football career was over forever.
Title: Re: How to develop striking power
Post by: the trainer on October 20, 2014, 11:50:18 AM
How do some people hit so fucking hard? George Foreman with his punches, Igor with his kicks? What treaining can improve it? Deads?
Practice this daily with a friend to build up power.

Title: Re: How to develop striking power
Post by: anabolichalo on October 20, 2014, 12:10:56 PM
genetics

you got it or you dont


cant turn a chiouaoua into a pitbulll
Title: Re: How to develop striking power
Post by: _aj_ on October 20, 2014, 12:19:02 PM
Mostly genetics. Same reason a 5'8" 150 pound guy can throw a baseball 100 mph from 60'6" away while a 6'4" 240 jacked up dude can't break 75 mph from the same distance.

Flintstones throws at 110 mph.
Title: Re: How to develop striking power
Post by: Waller on October 20, 2014, 12:20:21 PM
Flintstones throws at 110 mph.

Then catches it at the other end?
Title: Re: How to develop striking power
Post by: calfzilla on October 20, 2014, 01:06:31 PM
Flintstones throws at 110 mph.

No way. 102 max I say.  He could probably only play for a shitty team like the Tigers and barely make the All Star team.
Title: Re: How to develop striking power
Post by: tleilaxutank on October 20, 2014, 01:07:47 PM
Need to find this guy

(http://www.gifbin.com/bin/022012/1329933589_pai_mei_beard_flick.gif)
Title: Re: How to develop striking power
Post by: Sophus on October 20, 2014, 01:11:16 PM
Flintstones throws runs at 110 mph.
Title: Re: How to develop striking power
Post by: gracie bjj on October 20, 2014, 02:58:14 PM
frank shamrock said it best,U CANT TEACH POWER ,ofcoarse we can all learn to punch harder and faster but some guys just naturally hit hard.
Title: Re: How to develop striking power
Post by: Mr Anabolic on October 20, 2014, 03:10:12 PM
Technique... of course, but most heavy hitters hands were huge. 

Foreman, Frasier, Shavers, Norton, Holmes, Liston... they all had fists like sledgehammers.
Title: Re: How to develop striking power
Post by: gracie bjj on October 20, 2014, 03:17:52 PM
Technique... of course, but most heavy hitters hands were huge. 

Foreman, Frasier, Shavers, Norton, Holmes, Liston... they all had fists like sledgehammers.

true,i got a picture with tank abbott who was a very hard hitter in his day and his hand is 3 times the size of mine and my hands aint exactly small
Title: Re: How to develop striking power
Post by: T-REX007 on October 20, 2014, 03:27:00 PM
Like has already been said - punchers are born

Not all are extremely big guys with huge hands, but it helps

Marciano, Dempsey, Duran, Hearns  all had bone crunching power, but not real big guys, just "had it", with obvious technique for sure
Title: Re: How to develop striking power
Post by: che on October 20, 2014, 03:52:16 PM
Technique... of course, but most heavy hitters hands were huge. 

Foreman, Frasier, Shavers, Norton, Holmes, Liston... they all had fists like sledgehammers.

true,i got a picture with tank abbott who was a very hard hitter in his day and his hand is 3 times the size of mine and my hands aint exactly small

Oh brother ::)
Title: Re: How to develop striking power
Post by: Conker on October 20, 2014, 03:56:36 PM
Like has already been said - punchers are born

Not all are extremely big guys with huge hands, but it helps

Marciano, Dempsey, Duran, Hearns  all had bone crunching power, but not real big guys, just "had it", with obvious technique for sure

Not to mention Tyson who was tiny for a heavyweight but devastating. I think the "born" is true too, i can't remember a single boxer who didn't start with knock out power then gained it later in their career.
Title: Re: How to develop striking power
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on October 20, 2014, 04:15:37 PM
1) Genetics.  Limb proportions, coordination among the limbs, muscle fiber composition, etc.

2) Technique.  Practice makes the motion more efficient, maximizing power


Keep in mind, knockout punches are about placement & power.  Hit somebody in just the right spot, and it wont take much power to drop em
Title: Re: How to develop striking power
Post by: Donny on October 22, 2014, 03:27:15 AM
you want punching power read this(Google Translate it) I read this years ago when training regularly in Wing tzun. Close grip Bench press...not Biceps because it effects your punch.
http://download.rbuap.com/public/training/training%20deutsch/krafttraining/Krafttraining%20f%FCr%20Kung%20Fu%20und%20Karate.pdf
Title: Re: How to develop striking power
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 22, 2014, 05:02:39 AM
Genetics trump everything in sport but of course you can increase your power.

 Power often gets confused with strength but it's a separate entity yet somewhat related. An example of this is a power lifter who can squat 700lbs but he can't jump up and touch the basket ball rim. That's a guy who is strong but has no power. Power is how quickly you can release strength and it's one of the most important athletic attributes. I have seen heavy benchers punch the heavy bag like a woman yet see a guy who can barely bench 225lbs hit the bag like a gorilla.

To increase your punching power hitting the heavy bag is one of the best exercises. Also with time hitting the bag you will train your body to hit the bag with your whole body instead of arm punches. A devastating punch comes from your whole body through a complicated interplay of kinesiology using a lot more muscle than your arms, delts and pecs. Some misinformed say use the bench to increase punching power. You would be better off using the clean and press from a kinesiology stand point.
Title: Re: How to develop striking power
Post by: _bruce_ on October 22, 2014, 05:04:50 AM
Louie to the rescue!

Title: Re: How to develop striking power
Post by: Donny on October 22, 2014, 05:07:25 AM
Genetics trump everything in sport but of course you can increase your power.

 Power often gets confused with strength but it's a separate entity yet somewhat related. An example of this is a power lifter who can squat 700lbs but he can't jump up and touch the basket ball rim. That's a guy who is strong but has no power. Power is how quickly you can release strength and it's one of the most important athletic attributes. I have seen heavy benchers punch the heavy bag like a woman yet see a guy who can barely bench 225lbs hit the bag like a gorilla.

To increase your punching power hitting the heavy bag is one of the best exercises. Also with time hitting the bag you will train your body to hit the bag with your whole body instead of arm punches. A devastating punch comes from your whole body through a complicated interplay of kinesiology using a lot more muscle than your arms. Some misinformed say use the bench to increase punching power. You would be better off using the clean and press from a kinesiology stand point.
Good post Rich. when you look at the training from say Masutatsu Oyama (Kyokushinkai Karate) and a small guy like Bruce lee. It makes you think.
Title: Re: How to develop striking power
Post by: Beckenbauer on October 22, 2014, 06:07:47 AM
I value technique more than raw power, ofc if u got both it's a win/win. But most who have power are always sloppy with their technique. 
If u see children boxers throw punches u think they have power, but it's because they learned the proper technique to throw a punch.