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I guaranty this is Obama got "elected"....twice.
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Many liberals are adamant there is no threat of voter fraud that justifies efforts to improve the integrity of elections. “There is no real concrete evidence of voter fraud,” tweeted Donna Brazile, former acting chair of the Democratic National Committee, this week. “It’s a big ass lie.”
James O’Keefe, the guerilla filmmaker who brought down the ACORN voter-registration fraudsters in 2010 and forced the resignation of NPR executives, politely disagrees. Today, he is releasing some new undercover footage that raises disturbing questions about ballot integrity in Colorado, the site of fiercely contested races for the U.S. Senate, the U.S. House, and the governorship. When he raised the issue of filling out some of the unused ballots that are mailed to every household in the state this month, he was told by Meredith Hicks, the director of Work for Progress, a liberal group funded by Democratic Super PACS.: “That is not even like lying or something, if someone throws out a ballot, like if you want to fill it out you should do it.” She then brazenly offered O’Keefe, disguised as a middle-aged college instructor, a job with her group.
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The video of O’Keefe’s encounters with other operatives is equally disturbing. He has a conversation with Greenpeace employee Christina Topping, and suggests he might have access to unused ballots from people who have recently moved out of college fraternity houses. “I mean it is putting the votes to good use,” she responds. “So really, truly, like yeah, that is awesome.”
Colorado secretary of state Scott Gessler, along with several county election clerks, have raised warning flags that a new state law that automatically mails a ballot to everyone is an engraved invitation to commit fraud. “Sending ballots to people who did not even ask for them or have moved out of state is asking for trouble” he told me. For example, little can stop someone who collects discarded ballots from trash cans, fills out the ballots, and mails them in. Election workers are supposed to compare signatures on registration records with signed ballots. But if a person has a “witness” who signs the ballot on the witness line, then the signatures do not have to match and the vote is counted.
Secretary of State Gessler had futile arguments with Democratic state legislators last year who insisted on ramming a bill through that mandated Colorado become the only state in the nation with both all-mail balloting and same-day registration. Under same-day registration someone can register to vote online, have a mail ballot sent to them, and never physically show up to register or vote. Other places that use same-day registration treat the vote as a provisional ballot pending verification. Colorado immediately counts the vote and there is no way to separate it out if the person who votes is later found ineligible. “We know people in other states with better integrity safeguards have cheated using the cover of these methods,” Gessler told me. A decade ago, Melody Rose, then a liberal professor at Oregon State University, concluded that state’s vote-by-mail system “brings a perpetual risk of systemic fraud” in elections with razor-thin margins.
“Voter fraud is incredibly difficult to detect and prosecute, absent a direct confession,” Gessler says as he notes that in other areas of law-breaking, we do not judge how much of it there is merely by the number of related prosecutions. But he also notes there is evidence of just how easy voter fraud is to commit. Last December, New York City’s Department of Investigation detailed how its undercover agents claimed at 63 polling places to be individuals who were in fact dead, had moved out of town, or who were in jail. In 61 instances, or 97 percent of the time, they were allowed to vote. (To avoid skewing results, they voted only for nonexistent write-in candidates.) How did the city’s Board of Elections respond? Did it immediately probe and reform their sloppy procedures? Not at all. It instead demanded that the investigators be prosecuted. Most officials are loath to admit how vulnerable election systems are, but privately many express worry that close elections could be flipped by fraud.
Nor are such sad examples limited to New York. In 2008, the Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of voter-ID laws in a 6–3 opinion written by John Paul Stevens, then the most liberal member of the court. He noted that the record “demonstrates that not only is the risk of voter fraud real but that it could affect the outcome of a close election.” Stevens had witnessed the Daley machine up close manipulate local elections through fraud and chicanery during a distinguished legal career in Chicago that included serving both as a special counsel to a commission rooting out corruption and as a judge.
I understand that Donna Brazile devoutly wants to wish away the notion of voter fraud. But by overwhelming margins, the American people believe it is a real problem and support steps to combat it. Indeed, a Rasmussen survey in 2013 found that a greater percentage of African Americans viewed voter fraud as a serious problem than did whites. That is because, as former Democratic congressman Artur Davis of Alabama told me: “Minority voters are often the biggest victims of voter fraud as reform movements in cities and depressed rural areas are crushed by fraudulent machine voting. I have seen it with my own eyes in Alabama.”
As with his expose of ACORN, James O’Keefe deserves credit for once again uncovering the potential for corruption at the ballot box while too many journalists keep their noses buried in campaign-finance reports. Both kinds of reporting are valuable, but O’Keefe appears to be a rare bird interested in ballot integrity.
— John Fund is national affairs correspondent for NRO and co-author, with Hans Von Spakovsky, of Who’s Counting? How Fraudsters and Bureaucrats Put Your Vote at Risk.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/390893/james-okeefe-strikes-again-john-fund
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Accrding to straw twink - this never occurred
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Nothing to see here.
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If voter fraud keeps the republicans out of the white house its a good thing for everybody.
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If voter fraud keeps the republicans out of the white house its a good thing for everybody.
Because the libs are doing such a great job. If you lived here you couldn't even answer as to why you'd even vote left.
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Accrding to straw twink - this never occurred
Hey Closet Queen, save you gay fantasies for your boyfriend and stop lying about things I've never said
I never said that voter fraud never happens
I've said it's very rare
BTW - it's more likely to happen with absentee ballots which is yet another reason why voter ID laws are bullshit
Maybe you and O'keefe and can take a break from your investigation of Breitbarts murder and go find actual voter fraud rather than just the rare and isolated case
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here's a novel solution.
lock up EVERY MOTHERFUCCKER that commits voter fraud. Regardless of the party.
That's about it.
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here's a novel solution.
lock up EVERY MOTHERFUCCKER that commits voter fraud. Regardless of the party.
That's about it.
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And yet your party (Democrats) cry over someone actually having to show an I.D. to vote...
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If voter fraud keeps the republicans out of the white house its a good thing for everybody.
Maybe if and when we get congress and the whitehouse we just round up evey dem and execute them....basically the same thing.
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Maybe if and when we get congress and the whitehouse we just round up evey dem and execute them....basically the same thing.
Then you wouldn;t have a good economy in between the disaters the GOP lay at your feet. Clinton and Obama have the economy improving with the deficit shrinking, the opposite was true of both previous GOP admin's.
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Yeah...economy is doing great. The only reason the market didn't crash last week is they pumped more bullshit money into. Christ your a ball washer.....
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Man, i love how when internal in investigators find holes and corruption (their JOB), our politicians not only dont do anything about it, they try and blame and prosecute the invdstigstors who just did there job.
Epic lolz.
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Yeah...economy is doing great. The only reason the market didn't crash last week is they pumped more bullshit money into. Christ your a ball washer.....
Sure it is.
Unemployment plummeting, the deficit faster then ever in history, energy independent ya it's doing nearly as bad as the great recession ::)
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ok dude......we have more people not even looking for jobs then ever before...its almost doubled since he took office. Obama has destroyed the coal industry. More people are on welfare then ever before and most of the recovery was in unskilled or part time employment. This isn't 1995-1999. Gas is still way over what we had when douchbag became president. We're looking at almost 55 million work place drop outs. Food prices have gone up 5%. Food stamp use has doubled...things are great dude....wonderful
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Failbama is the biggest pariah in this country right now - his legacy is pure shit
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Sure it is.
Unemployment plummeting, the deficit faster then ever in history, energy independent ya it's doing nearly as bad as the great recession ::)
lol
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lol
I know the numbers are made up ::)
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I know the numbers are made up ::)
Dude why are you drinking the Kool-Aid? The national debt exploded under his watch and is only getting worse. Even liberals have acknowledged what a failure the man is. Why distort facts? What's in it for you as a Canadian?
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If voter fraud keeps the republicans out of the white house its a good thing for everybody.
You just confirmed it as a liberal. You guys can't win unless you lie, cheat and steal. Fact.
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Dude why are you drinking the Kool-Aid? The national debt exploded under his watch and is only getting worse. Even liberals have acknowledged what a failure the man is. Why distort facts? What's in it for you as a Canadian?
The things I posted are facts, the debt exploded partially do to Bush's policies and carry through (un paid debt) and the stimulus. Is this somehow the only marker for progress? the fact that the deficit is rapidly shrinking (which doesn't really matter but the right were crying about it), that unemployment was under 6% etc.
No kool aid, the guy has done some good and some bad, your the one drinking the kool aid, you think he is a kenyan long distance runner.
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You just confirmed it as a liberal. You guys can't win unless you lie, cheat and steal. Fact.
Right, the smashing Obama gave Romney was from a well orchestrated multi state fraud. The polls that were accurate leading up also knew of this fraudulent activity. Do you have a brain?
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The things I posted are facts, the debt exploded partially do to Bush's policies and carry through (un paid debt) and the stimulus. Is this somehow the only marker for progress? the fact that the deficit is rapidly shrinking (which doesn't really matter but the right were crying about it), that unemployment was under 6% etc.
No kool aid, the guy has done some good and some bad, your the one drinking the kool aid, you think he is a kenyan long distance runner.
I don't know if the deficit is shrinking. But let's assume it is. It's a gross distortion to view that as some indicator of success when we are drowning in debt. He added more debt than any president in U.S. history. Blaming Bush is a pathetic liberal talking point. Plus the failed stimulus belongs to Obama. So yes, you are distorting the facts.
Anything good the man has done is dwarfed by how he has run the country into the ground.
I don't think he's a Kenyan long distance runner. He probably cannot run one mile at any pace. I think he is an American citizen, born in Hawaii, is from Chicago, and is a horrible leader. And he has a six-year record to prove it.
Why are you defending this garbage of an administration?
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Right, the smashing Obama gave Romney was from a well orchestrated multi state fraud. The polls that were accurate leading up also knew of this fraudulent activity. Do you have a brain?
Considering liberals are about the most useless people on the planet. Why did you vote for Obama again? And yes, you pretty much nailed it.
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Right, the smashing Obama gave Romney was from a well orchestrated multi state fraud. The polls that were accurate leading up also knew of this fraudulent activity. Do you have a brain?
Did you watch the debates? Romney was right and Obama was wrong about pretty much everything. Stop embarrassing yourself.
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I don't know if the deficit is shrinking. But let's assume it is. It's a gross distortion to view that as some indicator of success when we are drowning in debt. He added more debt than any president in U.S. history. Blaming Bush is a pathetic liberal talking point. Plus the failed stimulus belongs to Obama. So yes, you are distorting the facts.
Anything good the man has done is dwarfed by how he has run the country into the ground.
I don't think he's a Kenyan long distance runner. He probably cannot run one mile at any pace. I think he is an American citizen, born in Hawaii, is from Chicago, and is a horrible leader. And he has a six-year record to prove it.
Why are you defending this garbage of an administration?
No he did not, the whole debt bullshit thing is that spending that bush already completed was placed on Obama.How the fuck could he run the country into the ground what economic parameters are you using? unemployment? nope, deficit? nope, stock market? nope, auto-industry? nope etc etc. Despite having the most inactive congress in history he has accomplished some good things.
I am not defending but highlighting truth, he is lightyears better then Bush, that's how you run a country into the ground.
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Did you watch the debates? Romney was right and Obama was wrong about pretty much everything. Stop embarrassing yourself.
Huh?
Romney set teh record for campaign lies, which romney are we talking about?
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Huh?
Romney set teh record for campaign lies, which romney are we talking about?
Jesus, just stop. Please stop.
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Huh?
Romney set teh record for campaign lies, which romney are we talking about?
It was chooms in chief who got lie of the year last year remember?
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No he did not, the whole debt bullshit thing is that spending that bush already completed was placed on Obama.How the fuck could he run the country into the ground what economic parameters are you using? unemployment? nope, deficit? nope, stock market? nope, auto-industry? nope etc etc. Despite having the most inactive congress in history he has accomplished some good things.
I am not defending but highlighting truth, he is lightyears better then Bush, that's how you run a country into the ground.
Are you kidding? Are you really saying the national debt did not explode on Obama's watch?
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Huh?
Romney set teh record for campaign lies, which romney are we talking about?
lol. Oh brother. I have to run, but maybe someone can post the Romney was right clip?
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Are you kidding? Are you really saying the national debt did not explode on Obama's watch?
No I am saying looking at it in a rational manner you can see that no Obama has not racked up the most debt, a large portion was bush's unpaid wars that carried over to 2008 of which Obama had no control over. The second big issue was the stimulus, which was needed and should have been larger in retrospect. So did the debt explode? sure it did, was it due to Obama, partially, however, the reason was a unique one, the previous president wrecked the world economy hence the need for the stimulus, this is important to take into context.
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lol. Oh brother. I have to run, but maybe someone can post the Romney was right clip?
Of course you do, Romney, the guy who said auto makers are moving to china? the same one who thought he was winning despite reality? that guy?
What was he right about, china is a money manipulator? no shit. This broad ass thing you do, romney was right? about what? everything? something in particular? Something only romney predicted?
Like you see Obama running the country into the ground yet the numbers just don't show that.
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Huh?
Romney set teh record for campaign lies, which romney are we talking about?
Epic irony
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Are you kidding? Are you really saying the national debt did not explode on Obama's watch?
You must be thinking of Bush.
What specifically has Obama done to increase the debt?
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No I am saying looking at it in a rational manner you can see that no Obama has not racked up the most debt, a large portion was bush's unpaid wars that carried over to 2008 of which Obama had no control over. The second big issue was the stimulus, which was needed and should have been larger in retrospect. So did the debt explode? sure it did, was it due to Obama, partially, however, the reason was a unique one, the previous president wrecked the world economy hence the need for the stimulus, this is important to take into context.
The Bush wars were not the reason Obama has added so much to our national debt. Partly responsible? Yes. Significantly responsible? No. The stimulus was a failure, but it did contribute. And if you're looking at this rationally, you have to ask why in six years, including several years when he had both house of Congress, have things only gotten worse? He is saddling our grandkids with debt.
Remember this?
Do you agree with this?
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You must be thinking of Bush.
What specifically has Obama done to increase the debt?
I am thinking of Obama.
What specifically has Obama done to decrease the national debt?
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Of course you do, Romney, the guy who said auto makers are moving to china? the same one who thought he was winning despite reality? that guy?
What was he right about, china is a money manipulator? no shit. This broad ass thing you do, romney was right? about what? everything? something in particular? Something only romney predicted?
Like you see Obama running the country into the ground yet the numbers just don't show that.
Here is one of the clips. You don't see how wrong Obama was and how right Romney was? There are others about Iraq, etc.
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I am thinking of Obama.
What specifically has Obama done to decrease the national debt?
He did not invade any countries for starters.
That helps.
Other than that probably nothing.